Re: Penta K-R Battery Question

[mike wilson]

> On 24 September 2017 at 21:42 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24/9/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >She could use four standard 
> >alkaline batteries to just power it up to do the update if she has the 
> >battery carrier, or she could use disposable lithiums if she needs the 
> >camera while waiting for the battery, one again, if she has the carrier
> 
> The manual helpfully points out that both the AA battery carrier *and* the AC
> adapter (to power from wall outlet) are both optional extras. I think that's
> pretty lame myself. She has neither.

Any wall wart with the right voltage and polarity would work, unless it was
designed for something using microscopical amounts of power and the camera
needed more.  The output and polarity should be marked on the charger.  You can
buy ones with multiple tips, variable voltage and swappable polarity for about
1/4 of the price of the Pentax/Ricoh one.

> 
> She's ordered a third party battery from Amazon at a fraction of the usual
> outlandish price of the Ricoh OEM unit.

7dayshop.com

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Re: In London with AlanC

[mike wilson]

> On 09 September 2017 at 19:25 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Alan's visiting the UK and BobW and I met up with him. We had an
> enjoyable stroll around the Brick Lane area in London. We even managed
> to visit a bike shop. A few pictures here - the first one is the
> obligatory group shot.

Who took that?

> http://gog2953.jalbum.net/PDML%20AlanC/
> 
> Chris

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Re: OT: Off to UK

[mike wilson]

Will be in London from ~22:00hrs 13/09 to 17:00hrs 14/09.  In meetings from
10:30 to about 13:00hrs on 14th but free before and after.  KX area.

> On 05 September 2017 at 19:03 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ann & I will be visiting family & friends in the UK from 8th to 27th Sept. 
> Bob W is arranging a PDML London get together but no date or venue yet. I 
> will also be united with a (Hoya) K5 body ex Mark Cassino. Taking my DA 
> 18-55 WR to try it out. I am hoping the sensor will be an improvement  over 
> the K7 version.
> 
> Alan C 
> 
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Re: OT: Water your wiskey

[mike wilson]

I pulled a sickie on Unicorn day, to my everlasting regret.

> On 24 August 2017 at 22:15 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeez, Mike, I thought you knew everything there is to know about biology. I'm
> disappointed in you. There are no unicorn stallions - it's all done through
> parthenogenesis and twinkle dust.
> 
> > 
> >> On 8/24/2017 00:08, mike wilson wrote:
> >> What's wrong with stallion water?
> >> 
> >>> On 23 August 2017 at 19:32 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I have mine distilled from the pee of unicorn fillies, filtered through
> >>> freshly-crushed diamond powder.
> >>> 
> >>>> On 23 Aug 2017, at 18:07, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
> >>>> for coffee and for whisky.

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Re: OT: Water your wiskey

[mike wilson]

What's wrong with stallion water?

> On 23 August 2017 at 19:32 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have mine distilled from the pee of unicorn fillies, filtered through
> freshly-crushed diamond powder.
> 
> > On 23 Aug 2017, at 18:07, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> > 
> > That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
> > for coffee and for whisky.
> > 
> > 
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> > 
> >> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Just one other thought regarding water and how it effects the taste of
> >> what it is used with/in:
> >> 
> >> "Distilled water, as virtually all bottled water, is stored in cheap
> >> plastic containers. Some have been known to leach methyl chloride, a
> >> carcinogen, into the water and also gives off plastic tastes and
> >> odors. Water has been called the universal solvent, whatever it
> >> touches it will pick up. Distilled water being virtually 100%
> >> contaminant free might leach plastic tastes into the water from the
> >> inferior bottle it’s being stored in. Besides glass, consider buying
> >> bottles made from Lexan that won’t give off any plastic tastes or
> >> odors."
> >> 
> >> - source: http://www.durastill.com/myths.html

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Re: OT - "FedEx is closely monitoring ... solar eclipse ..."

[mike wilson]

> On 18 August 2017 at 20:14 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, it's Apocalypse Week on the BBC:
> http://www.bbc.com/future/columns/apocalypse-week
> 
> And that makes me suspect that the real reason for Steve Bannon's leaving the
> White House at this precise moment is that he's been summoned back down to
> Hell to help Satan and the other demons toss souls into the fiery pit with
> gleeful abandon.
> 
> bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~1~1~39166~109061:Livre-de-la-Vigne-nostre-Seigneur-?qvq=q:%3D%22Livre%2Bde%2Bla%2BVigne%2Bnostre%2BSeigneur.%22;lc:ODLodl~29~29,ODLodl~7~7,ODLodl~6~6,ODLodl~14~14,ODLodl~8~8,ODLodl~23~23,ODLodl~1~1,ODLodl~24~24&mi=1&trs=71%23

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20882589_703182609876554_8580909723046118927_n.jpg?oh=ec54e49cbcf55aca3fadae958676bbb2&oe=5A2E7B08

> 
> 
> On 18 Aug 2017, at 19:47, Igor PDML-StR
> mailto:pdml...@komkon.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I just got a notification from FedEx (I have an account with them, so, I get
> some "Service Alert"s. This one got me smiling.
> 
> Quote:
> 
> "FedEx is closely monitoring potential effects of the total solar eclipse on
> Monday, August 21, 2017. Our first priority is the safety and well-being of
> our team members, and we will implement contingency plans as necessary. Events
> of this nature often cause pickup and delivery delays and disruptions for
> FedEx customers. FedEx is prepared to provide service to the best of its
> ability."
> 
> 
> Ghm... Is that about the traffic and the crowds, or about the 2.5 minutes of
> darkness?
> 
> And another thought: "events of this NATURE"...
> Can we pick a different Nature? The one where solar eclipses last longer?
> And not that far from home? And with all 7 moons? ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Igor

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Re: PESO - Anthurium flower

[mike wilson]

Pity my Lomo Daguerrotype lens hadn't arrived before our last meeting. Quite
similar output.   
Not quite a 1.0, though

> On 12 August 2017 at 17:36 Jostein  wrote:
> 
> 
> Over summer, Dario helped me procure a very special lens, a Rayxar 
> E65/1.0 made by de Oude Delft in Netherlands.
> 
> Yes, that's a 65mm f/1.0. :-) It's an optic made for x-ray machines.
> 
> Turned out, it had a M42x1.0 thread on one side, which means it fits 
> straight into a standard M42 -> PK adapter.
> 
> No aperture control and DOF like a sheet of graphene, but oh, the bokeh. 
> Think I will have some fun with this one. :-)
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/flamingoblomst/
> 
> Jostein

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Re: GESO - A trip through time at GFM

[mike wilson]

That's a stunning mix of magnificent scenery and scary monsters.

> On 10 August 2017 at 21:18 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here's an unusually large gallery (of unusually small photos — 800px
> maximum width) from the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography
> Weekend through the years.
> 
> I've managed to include at least one photo from every year from 2001
> (my first year at the event) through 2017. Lots of familiar faces and
> a few that I miss.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/GFMNPW
> 
> It's a bit rough and ready at the moment, so it'll only stay up
> temporarily. I'll move it to a permanent location on my site when I've
> had time to do a little polishing.
>  
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: Semi happy ending

[mike wilson]

> On 09 August 2017 at 18:21 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Somehow I lost the lens cap from my SMC Pentax-FA 77mm F1.8 Limited. I
> had the lens on the camera with the lens cap on, and then the lens cap
> was gone. Retraced all the places I'd been since last time I remembered
> it being in place, but NO JOY!
> 
> However, I was able to find a replacement on eBay; genuine Pentax metal
> push-on cap with the green felt lining.
> 
> Only cost me $40 (incl. shipping & handling).
> 
> Would be much, much happier if I'd never lost the cap in the first
> place, and much happier if I'd found the one I lost. But, at least, I
> have a proper lens cap.
> 
> I won't relate all the other piddling little crap I've been dealing with
> this summer, other than to note that BIG PROBLEMS don't bring me down
> half so much as the "death of a thousand cuts" from the interminable
> tiny trials & tribulations I have to deal with on a daily basis.
> 
> Every day seems to be 5 miles through the snow and back again with no
> shoes & no feet; uphill both ways.
> 
> Yet I persist.

The alternative being?

Congrats on the cap - a small triumph against interminability.

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Re: Recovering damaged prints

[mike wilson]

If it was that important to me, I would be seeking assistance from a
professional print restorer.  While it is easy to obtain information from the
internet, it can't give you the experiential skills that are furnished by years
in a trade.

> On 25 July 2017 at 01:22 Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> 
> The print in question is an 11x14 color commercially printed favorite of mine
> - taken with P645 one early foggy morning in 1999…
> 
> So we had a flood. The garage had water up to 26.5 inches. It would have taken
> 27.5 inches for the water from the river to begin flowing on into the house,
> so that was the good news.
> But among other items not removed from the garage before the water rose was a
> trunk containing many posters, photo prints, commercial prints (e.g. my
> collection of Byte Magazine cover artwork).
> Now that I have cleaned, repaired, or discarded everything else from the
> garage, it is time to start salvaging the artwork.
> 
> Some of the prints have been easy. Soak, wash gently, rinse, squeegee, and
> place in a blotter book. Seems to be working. But THE print in question is
> about 80% stuck to the glass from the frame. Yes it was matted, but either the
> mat was too flimsy or it softened too much due to the soaking it received in
> the flood. So the print is stuck to the glass.
> 
> I have the glass + print soaking in a large trey. I think/hope eventually the
> print will float off. 
> 
> So here (at last) is the question: how long can I leave a photographic print
> to soak? Is there some point at which the emulsion will begin to decompose? I
> would rather let it be for a few hours rather than trying to peel it off the
> glass, but I don’t know how long I can wait before I cause more damage.
> 
> I may or may not be able to find the negative from which I printed, and I
> would kinda like to salvage and retain the original print…
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: Refugees' guide to Europe

[mike wilson]

"Welcome to America!  Here is a greeting from _our_ Magnum!"

Just thought I would beat President Tweety Pie to the punchline

> On 22 July 2017 at 10:35 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Almost worth becoming a refugee for this great effort:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/17/guidebook-refugees-magnum-photographers-introduce-europe
> 
> 
> 
> Digital version:
> http://www.arabculturefund.org/projects/project.php?id=1
> 
> B
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Re: Refugees' guide to Europe

[mike wilson]

"Welcome to America!  Here is a greeting from _our_ Magnum!"

Just thought I would beat President Tweety Pie to the punchline

> On 22 July 2017 at 10:35 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Almost worth becoming a refugee for this great effort:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/17/guidebook-refugees-magnum-photographers-introduce-europe
> 
> 
> 
> Digital version:
> http://www.arabculturefund.org/projects/project.php?id=1
> 
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Re: are we down?

[mike wilson]

But are you (or any of us, for that matter) DWTK?

https://youtu.be/VtAy0AhKKsk


> On 22 July 2017 at 07:48 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was down for eight hours. Did a lot of good. Now the morning coffee is
> brewing, and all is good. In this time zone anyway. :-) 
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 22. juli 2017 00.00.57 CEST, skrev John :
> >It's right at 6:00pm EDT as I read this. Everything copacetic here.
> >
> >On 7/21/2017 13:34, Doug Brewer wrote:
> >> Just checking before firing up the chickens
> >>
> 
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Re: Strange thing

[mike wilson]

I have almost the same excuses for misspelling "grammar".

> On 04 July 2017 at 13:40 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> It was late at night, I was tired, (I seem to post a lot like that), at 
> least I wasn't drunk.  At least, I don't think I was.
> 
> 
> On 7/4/2017 2:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 04 July 2017 at 07:22 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list put
> >> me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not important now.
> >>
> >> Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right
> >> click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.
> >>
> >> That will open the tool pallet.
> > My gammar-nazi heart wants to do something with this; my
> > you-should-be-on-your-way-to-work brain says I should let it lie.
> >
> >> Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.
> >>
> >> Close the pallet.
> >>
> >> The straight reply button is now on the pallet.
> >>
> >> The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work
> >> more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're
> >> looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if the
> >> email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of replying
> >> to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the down arrow.
> >>
> >> It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> >>> Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)
> >>>
> >>> alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead
> >>> of jsut REPLY  -
> >>> some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what i
> >>> said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion
> >>>
> >>> At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work
> >>> time than weekdays
> >>>
> >>> ann
> >>>
> >>> On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
> >>>> I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at
> >>>> least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.
> 
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Re: Strange thing

[mike wilson]

> On 04 July 2017 at 07:22 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list put 
> me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not important now.
> 
> Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right 
> click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.
> 
> That will open the tool pallet.

My gammar-nazi heart wants to do something with this; my
you-should-be-on-your-way-to-work brain says I should let it lie.

> 
> Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.
> 
> Close the pallet.
> 
> The straight reply button is now on the pallet.
> 
> The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work 
> more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're 
> looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if the 
> email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of replying 
> to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the down arrow.
> 
> It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.
> 
> 
> On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> > Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)
> >
> > alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead 
> > of jsut REPLY  -
> > some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what i 
> > said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion
> >
> > At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work 
> > time than weekdays
> >
> > ann
> >
> > On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
> >> I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at 
> >> least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.

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Re: PESO - Red wood ant

[mike wilson]

> On 02 July 2017 at 18:33 Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> Jostein, what Bruce has said is exactly my reaction.
> 
> The surrounding/background is a good setting for this photo.
> 
> The only thing that could be improved is that the leg wouldn't be cut off. 
> I am suspecting there was something distracting on the left that forced 
> you doing that...
> 
> 
> Igor

Having watched Jostein at work, I can say that one of the many difficulties with
this process is working out exactly what will be in frame when the multiplicity
of in-focus wafers is amalgamated into one image.

> 
> 
> Bruce Walker Thu, 29 Jun 2017 17:45:49 -0700 wrote:
> 
> That's pretty damned amazing and impressive, Jostein!
> 
> The effort of posing lifesize models pales in comparison to your chore. :)
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jostein  wrote:
> > http://www.alunfoto.no/bloggposter/2017/06/formica/
> >
> > Continuing my foray into entomology. A dead insect this time too.
> > Meticulously prepped and arranged. Getting the legs and antennae right
> > definitely counts as fiddly bits.
> >
> > Shot with 645D, FA 200/4 and reversed A 55/2.8 (almost 4X). Stacked from 
> a
> > pile of shots. ~180, iirc.
> >

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Re: PESO - Red wood ant

[mike wilson]

> On 30 June 2017 at 16:17 Jostein  wrote:
> 
> Den 30.06.2017 13.31, skrev Steve Cottrell:
> > On 30/6/17, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> It sits on a slab of modelling clay. :-)
> > 
> > This conjures up some interesting scenarios. Hoe about some miniature
> > clay people running for their lives ;-)
> 
> LOL
> That would bring a whole new meaning into the concept of fiddlybits, 
> that's for sure!

If they all looked like Joan Collins, I'm sure you would have plenty of
assistant fiddlers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_(film)

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Re: The Road not taken... Video

[mike wilson]

If you like that sort of thing, search youtube for "swiss railway cab ride".  I
think there are a few from Norway as well.  Nothing like a scenic countryside
railway ride to lower your blood pressure.

> On 28 June 2017 at 04:22 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> So would I - but I"m sort of transported there watching it sorry I 
> made you sad
> 
> ann
> 
> On 6/27/2017 2:12 PM, John wrote:
> > Makes me kind of sad. I'd rather be there than stuck here.
> >
> > On 6/27/2017 09:19, ann sanfedele wrote:
> >> Not mine - but wanted to share one of the roads I've been virtually
> >> traveling each morning before and during taking my blood pressure...
> >>
> >> This one is noteable for the great light and big sky... I've been near
> >> there, but not on that exact path...  I watched it half speed with sound
> >> off
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcYYVAktaWw
> >>
> >> Hope others enjoy it... it's gonna make a few of you know the general
> >> area ache to get out there again, I"m sure
> >>
> >> I confess to wishing we had had a dash cam back in the mid 1980's
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 
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Re: PESO 2017 - 075 - GDG

[mike wilson]

> On 26 June 2017 at 20:09 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> If Maupassant ever drops in for a cup of tea and a Custard Cream, make sure
> you hide all of those.

I'd be more worried about John Gregson.
https://youtu.be/hjLfJ5wW6S8

> 
> > On 26 Jun 2017, at 19:39, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you Rick, Ann, and Bob! 
> > 
> > G
> > 
> >>> Felipe returned from his travels to London and Paris. He brought back
> >>> souvenirs...  
> >>> 
> >>> https://flic.kr/p/Vxxz4y
> > 
> > 
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Re: Error 404

[mike wilson]

> On 25 June 2017 at 20:23 "J.C. O'Connell"  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:19:15 -0400, Jack Davis   
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Mike, there may come a time.
> >
> > J
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "mike wilson" 
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: Error 404
> >
> >> On 24 June 2017 at 23:47 Jack Davis  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, can be. He mumbles a lot and
> >> seems to assume I actually
> >> understand him.
> >> We get along swell and if I hand him
> >> some money, he goes away.
> >
> > Never give him clothes, or he'll be gone forever.
> >
> >>
> >> J
> >> > On Jun 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM,yearP. J. Alling  
> >> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It must me nice to have your own pet geek...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On 6/24/2017 11:33 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >> >> Have contacted my "Geek" for help.
> >> >>
> >> >> Later.
> >
> 
> I hate people who put clothes on their pets.

Not exactly pets
https://youtu.be/oZjk_gtkbd0

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Re: Error 404

[mike wilson]

> On 24 June 2017 at 23:47 Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, can be. He mumbles a lot and
> seems to assume I actually
> understand him.
> We get along swell and if I hand him
> some money, he goes away.

Never give him clothes, or he'll be gone forever.

> 
> J
> > On Jun 24, 2017, at 2:18 PM,yearP. J. Alling 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > It must me nice to have your own pet geek...
> > 
> > 
> >> On 6/24/2017 11:33 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >> Have contacted my "Geek" for help.
> >> 
> >> Later.

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Re: Eroica and drone

[mike wilson]

> On 21 June 2017 at 19:50 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 21 Jun 2017, at 14:19, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> > 
> > On 20 Jun 2017 21:48, "Bob W-PDML"  wrote:
> > 
> > Having just reviewed the video I feel obliged for Health & Safety reasons
> > to point out to Chris that he did not look behind before pulling out to
> > pass the jogger. It's called a Life-Saver for a reason!
> > 
> > You can tell which of us is the London commuter
> > 
> > 
> > Ah, but I have very good hearing and could hear the tyre noise. You might
> > find you don't have to look behind so often now you've got new ears...
> > -
> 
> Only one new ear so far, and on the wrong side for traffic, at least in this
> country. Right ear in a few months; that leaves just the final front ear.
> 
> Kirk out.

Always thought of you as more the Davy Crockett type.

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Re: French trip

[mike wilson]

Next year, then.  You can see the DaVinci if it's back from restoration.

> On 19 June 2017 at 19:14 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> That would be great - I'd love to go there, especially with someone who knows
> what they're looking at. Sadly not this year though; I'm going to the
> Edinburgh Festival the week before, and have used up my leave allowance (and
> money) except for a few days saved for Christmas.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 19 Jun 2017, at 18:33, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 13-18/08/17.  Then we are off into the deepest, darkest corner where lurks
> > the
> > source of at least a couple of PDMLers.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bieszczady_Mountains
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bieszczady_National_Park
> > 
> > 
> >> On 19 June 2017 at 18:12 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I think an on-site investigation is called for to settle this.
> >> 
> >> B
> >> 
> >>> On 19 Jun 2017, at 17:46, mike wilson  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Sorry; Krakow has won that every year since 1989.  Which means it can't
> >>> just
> >>> be
> >>> me getting old(er).  I hope.
> >>> 
> >>>> On 19 June 2017 at 01:41 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks all.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I can't help it, Larry, sorry. And on the way back I spent a night in
> >>>> Paris,
> >>>> and decided that it must be European City of Crumpet 2017. Unbelievable
> >>>> subject matter.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 16 Jun 2017, at 18:48, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Nice set, looks like a great time.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You seem to have similar problems as Bruce, pretty girls seems to have
> >>>>> wandered into several of your shots as you were taking them.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> >>>>>> I've been back from my French bike ride since Sunday evening. I didn't
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>> as much as I'd planned, unfortunately. By the time I'd arrived at
> >>>>>> Montlucon
> >>>>>> it was too late to cycle the 400km to Avignon through the Ardeche, so I
> >>>>>> jumped on a train and had three unplanned and enjoyable days in
> >>>>>> Avignon,
> >>>>>> which is a great city.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Here are some of the photos I've been able to look at so far.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> https://web-options.com/2017/06/15/a-few-shots-from-avignon/
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> https://web-options.com/2017/06/15/lisle-sur-la-sorgue/
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'll publish some more next week. Going away this weekend (shooting
> >>>>>> film
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>> my M3), so can't do anything for a few days.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Bob
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -- 
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> >>>>> http://red4est.com/lrc
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Re: French trip

[mike wilson]

13-18/08/17.  Then we are off into the deepest, darkest corner where lurks the
source of at least a couple of PDMLers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bieszczady_Mountains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bieszczady_National_Park


> On 19 June 2017 at 18:12 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think an on-site investigation is called for to settle this.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 19 Jun 2017, at 17:46, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry; Krakow has won that every year since 1989.  Which means it can't just
> > be
> > me getting old(er).  I hope.
> > 
> >> On 19 June 2017 at 01:41 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks all.
> >> 
> >> I can't help it, Larry, sorry. And on the way back I spent a night in
> >> Paris,
> >> and decided that it must be European City of Crumpet 2017. Unbelievable
> >> subject matter.
> >> 
> >>> On 16 Jun 2017, at 18:48, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Nice set, looks like a great time.
> >>> 
> >>> You seem to have similar problems as Bruce, pretty girls seems to have
> >>> wandered into several of your shots as you were taking them.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> >>>> I've been back from my French bike ride since Sunday evening. I didn't do
> >>>> as much as I'd planned, unfortunately. By the time I'd arrived at
> >>>> Montlucon
> >>>> it was too late to cycle the 400km to Avignon through the Ardeche, so I
> >>>> jumped on a train and had three unplanned and enjoyable days in Avignon,
> >>>> which is a great city.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Here are some of the photos I've been able to look at so far.
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://web-options.com/2017/06/15/a-few-shots-from-avignon/
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://web-options.com/2017/06/15/lisle-sur-la-sorgue/
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'll publish some more next week. Going away this weekend (shooting film
> >>>> on
> >>>> my M3), so can't do anything for a few days.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
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> >>> 
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Re: Eroica and drone

[mike wilson]

> On 19 June 2017 at 18:10 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19 Jun 2017, at 17:24, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> > 
> > That's a gorgeous area to cycle.
> > 
> > Period gear of 30 years ago, eh? Shouldn't you have been wearing neon
> > coloured leg warmers?
> 
> You must be thinking of Erotica Britannia

The thought of you in neon legwarmers makes me a candidate for Neurotica
Britannia.

> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Chris Mitchell
> >  wrote:
> >> Bob W and I took part in Eroica Britannia - a 55 mile cycle ride where
> >> you have to ride a bike that's at least 30 years old, and dress up in
> >> period gear. A friend of mine met us on the route and took this `drone
> >> footage:
> >> https://youtu.be/MOSYxry9uZI

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Re: Eroica and drone

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> On 19 June 2017 at 16:41 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob W and I took part in Eroica Britannia - a 55 mile cycle ride where
> you have to ride a bike that's at least 30 years old, and dress up in
> period gear. A friend of mine met us on the route and took this `drone
> footage:
> https://youtu.be/MOSYxry9uZI
> 
> We look suitably heroic here - it was early on and a nice flat bit of
> old railway turned into a cycle route.
> 
> Not quite OT as I was carrying my MX over my shoulder.

Where's the dronemeister?

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Re: French trip

[mike wilson]

Sorry; Krakow has won that every year since 1989.  Which means it can't just be
me getting old(er).  I hope.

> On 19 June 2017 at 01:41 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> I can't help it, Larry, sorry. And on the way back I spent a night in Paris,
> and decided that it must be European City of Crumpet 2017. Unbelievable
> subject matter.
> 
> > On 16 Jun 2017, at 18:48, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > Nice set, looks like a great time.
> > 
> > You seem to have similar problems as Bruce, pretty girls seems to have
> > wandered into several of your shots as you were taking them.
> > 
> > 
> > Bob W-PDML wrote:
> >> I've been back from my French bike ride since Sunday evening. I didn't do
> >> as much as I'd planned, unfortunately. By the time I'd arrived at Montlucon
> >> it was too late to cycle the 400km to Avignon through the Ardeche, so I
> >> jumped on a train and had three unplanned and enjoyable days in Avignon,
> >> which is a great city.
> >> 
> >> Here are some of the photos I've been able to look at so far.
> >> 
> >> https://web-options.com/2017/06/15/a-few-shots-from-avignon/
> >> 
> >> https://web-options.com/2017/06/15/lisle-sur-la-sorgue/
> >> 
> >> I'll publish some more next week. Going away this weekend (shooting film on
> >> my M3), so can't do anything for a few days.
> >> 
> >> Bob
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: PESO 2017 - 070,074 - GDG

[mike wilson]

> On 13 June 2017 at 17:47 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:55 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> >> Intestine shots
> >
> >It takes a lot of guts to say something like that.
> 
> Dave's not exactly lily-livered.

And he does know how to vent his spleen.

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Re: PESO - fiddle study 3

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> On 02 June 2017 at 19:17 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Chris Mitchell wrote:
> > Very nice Bruce. Musical instruments and bodies go well together. Well, not
> > banjos maybe, but most.
> 
> You've obviously never looked at my body in profile.

You only need to worry when they start whispering "crumhorn" behind your back.

> > On 31 May 2017 16:24, "Bruce Walker"  wrote:
> >
> >> Possibly nsfw content, but rather abstract.
> >>
> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IJBHEGfRtYkE
> >>
> >> 645z, 55mm/2.8

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Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

[mike wilson]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22882/windows-vista-end-of-support

"As of April 11, 2017, Windows Vista customers are no longer receiving new
security updates, non-security hotfixes, free or paid assisted support options,
or online technical content updates from Microsoft. Microsoft has provided
support for Windows Vista for the past 10 years, but the time has come for us,
along with our hardware and software partners, to invest our resources towards
more recent technologies so that we can continue to deliver great new
experiences. "

I look after a Vista laptop for the local branch of the Red Cross.  It refused
to connect for updates over the weekend and this is all I could find.

> On 29 May 2017 at 22:47 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2017, at 04:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > You'll not be updating a Vista laptop any more.  You missed the deadline
> > by
> > about a month.
> > 
> 
> 
> Doesn't that mean no future updates?  I'd assumed I could still apply
> past updates if I could just get Windows Update to cooperate.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> > > On 28 May 2017 at 22:44 Brian Walters  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I might have to try that.
> > > 
> > > My old Vista laptop hasn't been updated for about a year because the
> > > Update just stayed on 0% downloaded for hours.  I'll try the overnight
> > > thing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > ++
> > > Brian Walters
> > > Western Sydney Australia
> > > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 29, 2017, at 05:39 AM, John wrote:
> > > > 1. I finally got Windoze Update working on the Toshiba.
> > > > 
> > > > Based on something I read on a Microsoft forum, I left it running
> > > > overnight searching for updates. There were 18 updates available when I
> > > > got out of bed this morning. Apparently the Update Client has to update
> > > > itself before it will find updates. I'm installing them in small batches
> > > > based on release date, oldest first. So far, I've only had one to fail.
> > > > I'll try that one again after I've installed all the others.
> > > > 
> > > > 2. Egghead finally coughed up a page full of refurbished laptops with
> > > > Windows 7 Professional 64bit installed.
> > > > 
> > > > If I still end up having to replace the Toshiba, my NEW plan is to get
> > > > one of these. Linux can wait until I can no longer get Windows 7.

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Re: PESO Don't tailgate

[mike wilson]

rig.

> On 29 May 2017 at 19:27 mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 29 May 2017 at 12:52 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 29 May 2017 03:37:05 -0700, you wrote:
> > 
> > >Some people seem to get real cranky about tailgaters:
> > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/34832545411/in/album-72157684406304735/
> > 
> > That's very off-topic for this list: Those people are clearly cannon
> > shooters.
> 
> I've heard you get better results with the big-bore, pro cannon stuff.  It
> doesn't look like you could use spray and pray to get the shot you wanted with
> that rug.
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Re: PESO Don't tailgate

[mike wilson]

> On 29 May 2017 at 12:52 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 May 2017 03:37:05 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> >Some people seem to get real cranky about tailgaters:
> >https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/34832545411/in/album-72157684406304735/
> 
> That's very off-topic for this list: Those people are clearly cannon
> shooters.

I've heard you get better results with the big-bore, pro cannon stuff.  It
doesn't look like you could use spray and pray to get the shot you wanted with
that rug.

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Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

[mike wilson]

You'll not be updating a Vista laptop any more.  You missed the deadline by
about a month.

> On 28 May 2017 at 22:44 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> I might have to try that.
> 
> My old Vista laptop hasn't been updated for about a year because the
> Update just stayed on 0% downloaded for hours.  I'll try the overnight
> thing.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017, at 05:39 AM, John wrote:
> > 1. I finally got Windoze Update working on the Toshiba.
> > 
> > Based on something I read on a Microsoft forum, I left it running
> > overnight searching for updates. There were 18 updates available when I
> > got out of bed this morning. Apparently the Update Client has to update
> > itself before it will find updates. I'm installing them in small batches
> > based on release date, oldest first. So far, I've only had one to fail.
> > I'll try that one again after I've installed all the others.
> > 
> > 2. Egghead finally coughed up a page full of refurbished laptops with
> > Windows 7 Professional 64bit installed.
> > 
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> > one of these. Linux can wait until I can no longer get Windows 7.
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Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

[mike wilson]

Memory upgradeability, for hungry apps, is probably the only real hardware issue
for older appliances.  My Aspire One netbook used to be "make a cup of tea,
properly" slow from a cold start on XP.  Now, it's about 40 seconds from
pressing the button to opening Firefox.

> On 27 May 2017 at 23:46 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> My primary concern was RAM requirements for WINE... :-) 
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 27. mai 2017 23.09.48 CEST, skrev mike wilson :
> >If it ran W7, it should fly with UBUNTU.  My laptop was sluggish with
> >XP and
> >works just fine under LINUX.
> >
> >> On 27 May 2017 at 15:26 Jostein  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi John,
> >> If I read you right, you exclude Apple on price, and a new Microsoft 
> >> machine because of past experience with Win 10.
> >> But this Linux thing... Do you expect to reuse your existing hardware
> >
> >> for that?
> >> Jostein
> >> 
> >> Den 27.05.2017 16.09, skrev John:
> >> > Haven't needed to use my current laptop since last October. I got
> >it out
> >> > to make sure I had all the Windoze 7 security updates installed
> >before I
> >> > head off to Grandfather Mountain next weekend.
> >> >
> >> > Things ain't looking so good. I got a BSD 01a the first time I
> >tried to
> >> > run the update. Second time ended with an Update Failure
> >w/unidentified
> >> > error.
> >> >
> >> > Third time I've got it checking for updates to see if maybe there
> >are
> >> > some I need to install first ...
> >> >
> >> > It's been running the "Checking for Updates" for about 2 hours now.
> >> >
> >> > The laptop is about 10 years old IIRC. Toshiba A205. I still like
> >it a
> >> > lot, it has 2 Hard-drives - 500GB & 1TB - and a DVDRW Optical
> >drive.
> >> > Don't think I'm going to find that in a new laptop. AND because
> >it's a
> >> > WINDOZE computer (Win 7 Pro 64bit) it will run PhotoshopCS5 - maybe
> >not
> >> > great with just 4GB RAM & only 3.5GB of that usable, but it does
> >run.
> >> >
> >> > Trying to "upgrade" to Windoze 10 was such a disaster I refuse to
> >have
> >> > it on any computer I own, and the price for a MacBook Pro is so
> >> > outrageously expensive to get the one I'd want is just too much
> >pain.
> >> >
> >> > So I'm thinking about a Linux laptop. Which means either GIMP for
> >image
> >> > editing or trying to run PhotoShop on WINE.
> >> >
> >> > I know there are some Linux users here, maybe even a Guru or two.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone using GIMP recently? Or running PhotoShop using WINE?
> >> >
> >> > Or is there another way?
> >> >
> >> > Help!
> >> >
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Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

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Pull the drives, stick them on a dock to extract any data that you need.
 Reinstall them and put on your distro.  Put the data back.  Kapow!  A laptop
that will run better than it ever did with W7 for the sum of, Oh! nothing!

The bonus is freeing yourself from the Adobe yoke. 

George Melly said that the bonus from getting old was losing your libido - it
was like being unshackled from a lunatic.  Think of LINUX and Adobe in the same
way.

> On 27 May 2017 at 22:18 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> No. If I have to replace the Toshiba I'm looking for new hardware with
> Linux already installed.
> 
> If possible I want to be able to install & run my existing licensed copy
> of Photoshop CS5 on the new Linux machine.
> 
> On 5/27/2017 10:26, Jostein wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > If I read you right, you exclude Apple on price, and a new Microsoft
> > machine because of past experience with Win 10.
> > But this Linux thing... Do you expect to reuse your existing hardware
> > for that?
> > Jostein
> >
> > Den 27.05.2017 16.09, skrev John:
> >> Haven't needed to use my current laptop since last October. I got it out
> >> to make sure I had all the Windoze 7 security updates installed before I
> >> head off to Grandfather Mountain next weekend.
> >>
> >> Things ain't looking so good. I got a BSD 01a the first time I tried to
> >> run the update. Second time ended with an Update Failure w/unidentified
> >> error.
> >>
> 
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >
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Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

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> On 27 May 2017 at 20:17 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why?

1. It's infinite orders of magnitude cheaper. (Not everyone can offset their
computer-related purchases against tax)
2. You get more serious problems with Windows and Apple stuff anyway.  And
you've paid (mightily) for that.
3. It extends the life of hardware significantly, by clogging it up less with
crap.
4. As we're talking about crap, there's much less of the stuff around LINUX
installations.  Fewer trivial apps; no viruses; no fecking paperclip.
5. You don't have to deal (much) with Adobe.  Not at all if you want to be
hardcore.
6. You get to learn stuff.
7. It works perfectly well.
8. Did I mention that it's free?

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Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

[mike wilson]

If it ran W7, it should fly with UBUNTU.  My laptop was sluggish with XP and
works just fine under LINUX.

> On 27 May 2017 at 15:26 Jostein  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> If I read you right, you exclude Apple on price, and a new Microsoft 
> machine because of past experience with Win 10.
> But this Linux thing... Do you expect to reuse your existing hardware 
> for that?
> Jostein
> 
> Den 27.05.2017 16.09, skrev John:
> > Haven't needed to use my current laptop since last October. I got it out
> > to make sure I had all the Windoze 7 security updates installed before I
> > head off to Grandfather Mountain next weekend.
> >
> > Things ain't looking so good. I got a BSD 01a the first time I tried to
> > run the update. Second time ended with an Update Failure w/unidentified
> > error.
> >
> > Third time I've got it checking for updates to see if maybe there are
> > some I need to install first ...
> >
> > It's been running the "Checking for Updates" for about 2 hours now.
> >
> > The laptop is about 10 years old IIRC. Toshiba A205. I still like it a
> > lot, it has 2 Hard-drives - 500GB & 1TB - and a DVDRW Optical drive.
> > Don't think I'm going to find that in a new laptop. AND because it's a
> > WINDOZE computer (Win 7 Pro 64bit) it will run PhotoshopCS5 - maybe not
> > great with just 4GB RAM & only 3.5GB of that usable, but it does run.
> >
> > Trying to "upgrade" to Windoze 10 was such a disaster I refuse to have
> > it on any computer I own, and the price for a MacBook Pro is so
> > outrageously expensive to get the one I'd want is just too much pain.
> >
> > So I'm thinking about a Linux laptop. Which means either GIMP for image
> > editing or trying to run PhotoShop on WINE.
> >
> > I know there are some Linux users here, maybe even a Guru or two.
> >
> > Anyone using GIMP recently? Or running PhotoShop using WINE?
> >
> > Or is there another way?
> >
> > Help!
> >
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Re: WG-1

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> On 21 May 2017 at 18:45 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21/5/17, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I discovered last weekend that my WG-1 is, sadly, less W than I would have
> >liked.  Much puzzling over the dismantling prodecure led me to our favourite
> >search engine for an hour or so, where I eventually found the following page.
> >
> >https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Pentax+Optio+WG-1+GPS+Teardown/36657
> 
> I often use ifixit guides for taking apart things like phones and
> macbooks etc. Really good guides.
> 
> FWIW the iFixit tools they sell are superb:
> 
> <https://eustore.ifixit.com/en/Tools/Toolkits/>
> 
> Hope you're well! cheers :-)

Apart from the hole in my wallet

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Re: WG-1

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I'm usually incredibly anal about checking that there is nothing compromising
the seals but have to admit, on this occasion, I failed to do so.  I can find
nothing wrong with the camera at all but it ended up with a tide mark halfway up
the LCD.  Even then, if it had been fresh water there might have been a chance -
pool water is catastrophic for electronics.

> On 21 May 2017 at 18:28 Zos Xavius  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did one of the seals fail? From what I understand seals need checked
> and replaced over time.
> 
> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 10:15 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > I discovered last weekend that my WG-1 is, sadly, less W than I would have
> > liked.  Much puzzling over the dismantling prodecure led me to our favourite
> > search engine for an hour or so, where I eventually found the following
> > page.
> >
> > https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Pentax+Optio+WG-1+GPS+Teardown/36657
> >
> > Mine is not the GPS version, so I can testify that this procedure works for
> > other variants. If you want to take the front cover (the anodised metal
> > thing)
> > off, you need a T5 Torx driver as well as the number 0 Philips for the rest
> > of
> > it.   My example is decidedly toasted.  Not only is there corrosion on
> > electronic components, a couple of the ribbon connectors disintegrated as
> > they
> > were disconnected.  I therefore have an almost complete set of
> > non-electronic
> > spares for anyone who might need them.
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WG-1

[mike wilson]

I discovered last weekend that my WG-1 is, sadly, less W than I would have
liked.  Much puzzling over the dismantling prodecure led me to our favourite
search engine for an hour or so, where I eventually found the following page.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Pentax+Optio+WG-1+GPS+Teardown/36657

Mine is not the GPS version, so I can testify that this procedure works for
other variants. If you want to take the front cover (the anodised metal thing)
off, you need a T5 Torx driver as well as the number 0 Philips for the rest of
it.   My example is decidedly toasted.  Not only is there corrosion on
electronic components, a couple of the ribbon connectors disintegrated as they
were disconnected.  I therefore have an almost complete set of non-electronic
spares for anyone who might need them.

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Re: The Photo Annual arrived in the Frostpit

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> On 11 May 2017 at 01:43 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 11, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> > Mine was also on its way to USPS Induction today.
> > 
> > Which raises some questions in my mind. What happens to a book once it
> > has been inducted into the USPS? Are there trophies involved? Cash
> > prizes? How large a banquet will be held? I suppose I must wait patiently
> > to find out…
> 
> 
> No just a certificate for a basic induction.  To qualify for a trophy or
> cash prize you need to be inducted into the UPS Hall of Fame!

Is that the one where the driver can reach your front door by hurling the parcel
without leaving the cab?

> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> > 
> > stan
> > 
> > > On May 10, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Mine is due today, should arrive tomorrow.  Marco- lunch Friday? Anybody
> > > else want to join us?
> > > 
> > > Delivery used to be incredibly prompt, practically next day.
> > > Watching the tracking on UPS, they finished the books on 4 May and told me
> > > delivery by today.  It went to a center on the fifth, and basically just
> > > sat there for four days:
> > > May 10 2017   Package enroute to USPS for induction   San Leandro, CA
> > > May 10 2017   Ready for post office entry San Leandro, CA
> > > May 10 2017   Package received by dest MI facilitySan Leandro, CA
> > > May 5 2017Package transferred to dest MI facility Fife, WA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jostein wrote:
> > >> Superb job by Mark in particular, and by all participants in general.
> > >> 
> > >> I do however feel seriously overrepresented in this edition.
> > >> 
> > >> Jostein

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Re: 2017 PDML PHOTO ANNUAL NOW AVAILABLE

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No such thing as too much Øksne.

> On 02 May 2017 at 08:37 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's already in a previous edition. :-) 
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 30. april 2017 09.19.19 CEST, skrev mike wilson :
> >Cath was most upset that I'd cut you off.
> >
> >> On 29 April 2017 at 23:47 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Looks fantabulous as always! 
> >> Giggled when I noticed that thanks to Mike W. I have about two and a
> >thirds
> >> pictures in the book this year. :-) 
> >> Jostein 
> >> 
> >> Den 27. april 2017 00.58.57 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
> >> :
> >> >Paperback:
> >> >http://www.blurb.com/b/7900764-pdml-photo-annual-2017-paperback
> >> >
> >> >Hardcover, both dust jacket and imagewrap versions:
> >> >http://www.blurb.com/b/7900822-pdml-photo-annual-2017-hardcover
> >> >
> >> >As always be sure to check at
> >> >https://www.retailmenot.com/view/blurb.com for discount codes. I had
> >> >success with CHEERSUSA for a 35% discount, but that may only be for
> >> >your own books. Even if it works it's only good through Thursday, 27
> >> >April (which is why I put in some overtime to get the books online
> >> >today).
> >> >
> >> >The e-book versions, PDF and EPUB, should be available tomorrow.
> >> > 
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Re: 2017 PDML PHOTO ANNUAL NOW AVAILABLE

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Cath was most upset that I'd cut you off.

> On 29 April 2017 at 23:47 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks fantabulous as always! 
> Giggled when I noticed that thanks to Mike W. I have about two and a thirds
> pictures in the book this year. :-) 
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 27. april 2017 00.58.57 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
> :
> >Paperback:
> >http://www.blurb.com/b/7900764-pdml-photo-annual-2017-paperback
> >
> >Hardcover, both dust jacket and imagewrap versions:
> >http://www.blurb.com/b/7900822-pdml-photo-annual-2017-hardcover
> >
> >As always be sure to check at
> >https://www.retailmenot.com/view/blurb.com for discount codes. I had
> >success with CHEERSUSA for a 35% discount, but that may only be for
> >your own books. Even if it works it's only good through Thursday, 27
> >April (which is why I put in some overtime to get the books online
> >today).
> >
> >The e-book versions, PDF and EPUB, should be available tomorrow.
> > 
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Re: E-BOOKS: 2017 PDML PHOTO ANNUAL NOW AVAILABLE

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> On 27 April 2017 at 13:18 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Electronic book versions now available:
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/
> 
> Both PDF and EPUB formats.

Not to increase your workload but did the calendar turn out to be worth the
effort?  I know I'll be asked again.

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Re: 2017 PDML PHOTO ANNUAL NOW AVAILABLE

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> On 27 April 2017 at 18:52 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 26/4/17, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Paperback:
> >http://www.blurb.com/b/7900764-pdml-photo-annual-2017-paperback
> 
> Here's the UK version:
> 
> 
> 
> 36 quid!

Bargain  but it would be nice, just once, to have one of those discount
codes work.

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Re: PESO: Cemetery Path

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> On 25 April 2017 at 20:08 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2017, at 19:44, mike wilson
> mailto:m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
> 
> On 25 April 2017 at 19:36 Bob W-PDML
> mailto:p...@web-options.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2017, at 14:14, Daniel J. Matyola
> mailto:danmaty...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Bob and Chris.
> 
> I found this particular part of the cemetery quite peaceful and conducive
> to contemplation, and I loved the cylindrical trees.  The trees pictured in
> my image are actually quite unruly, compared to the others.  They were
> actually trimming them while we were there, but hadn't gotten around to
> these yet.
> 
> When I was 18 I had a summer job trimming the bushes in a girls' school.
> 
> And I bet you found loads of fairies under them.
> 
> It's true. Look, you can see some of them in the main picture here:
> http://heinemann-schulberatung.de/harrogate-ladies-college-internat-england/1271
> 
> And at the end of summer I spent two days poking the lacrosse pitches trying
> to find the corner flag holes.

I see the ladies in the other picture have found one of your lost balls.  Those
farmer lasses really know how to have fun.

> 
> 
> 
> A path through the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial:
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
> pesos/2017/4/25/cemetery-path
> K5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
> Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Cemetery Path

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> On 25 April 2017 at 19:36 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Apr 2017, at 14:14, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks, Bob and Chris.
> > 
> > I found this particular part of the cemetery quite peaceful and conducive
> > to contemplation, and I loved the cylindrical trees.  The trees pictured in
> > my image are actually quite unruly, compared to the others.  They were
> > actually trimming them while we were there, but hadn't gotten around to
> > these yet.
> 
> When I was 18 I had a summer job trimming the bushes in a girls' school.

And I bet you found loads of fairies under them.

> 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> A path through the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial:
> >>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
> >> pesos/2017/4/25/cemetery-path
> >>> K5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
> >>> Comments are invited.
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: Traveller, if you come to Ashford, Kent...

[mike wilson]

And now the bad news. You can safely ignore it.  It's an invoice, not a fine,
and the legally agreed limit is recompense for any time you used filling the
space which could have been sold to another user.  As you actually had a ticket
for the time used, it's doubly irrelevant.  

The only ones you actually have to pay are the local authority fines, which are
enforcements notices of local laws.  You can end up in prison for ignoring
those.

> On 25 April 2017 at 10:52 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> 
> then stay away from the local ASDA Superstore and its car park, located 
> on a hill where it's always rather windy. The parking tickets from the 
> vending machine are particularly flimsy and have a 86 percent chance of 
> flipping over when you close the car's door.
> 
> 40 quid!!!
> 
> The note you'll find on your windscreen is almost two feet long and the 
> endless fine print makes it quite clear that behind all this is a bunch 
> of accomplished shysters. The process to enter an objection with photos 
> and other suporting evidence is about as simple as applying for UK 
> citizenship as a EU foreigner.  We've grudgingly paid to avoid the 
> increased amount of 70 quid plus additional fees and levies. We had 
> always been wondering why they have someone permanently patrolling this 
> rather small car park. Now we know the business model behind this. What 
> a scam!
> 
> The next car park, near our favourite fish and chips place in Tenterden, 
> has tickets with a slightly sticky rear side, like post-it notes. But 
> why should the folks at Ashford ruin a perfectly working scheme to rip 
> off unsuspecting visitors? What a clever and innovative use of wind energy.
> 
> The staff at the superstore have of course nothing to do with all this. 
> The car park is outsourced to another company. They were really sorry 
> and that was it.
> 
> They'll have one customer less in the future.
> 
> Ralf
> 
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Re: PESOs: Need Bird ID help

[mike wilson]

http://www.birds-of-north-america.net/Ovenbird.html

> On 25 April 2017 at 01:38 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can’t find this guy (or gal)  anywhere. He resembles some Warblers but
> doesn’t have all the right colors. That might mean that he is a she. Never saw
> one in my yard before. Might be migratory. Shot handheld with the K-1 and
> 150-450.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18379080/warbler
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18379082/warbler
> 
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Re: PESO - Stone Wall, Leafield 2017

[mike wilson]

> On 24 April 2017 at 20:58 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 24 Apr 2017, at 20:20, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > On 24/4/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> How is the 'i' in Cirecester pronounced? Rhymes with "eye" or "seen"?
> > 
> > eye
> > 
> 
> These things are quite straightforward really. The simple rule is, however
> it's spelt, that's not how you say it. If you say it the way it's spelt
> everyone will know you're a tourist, and charge you £300 for an ice-cream.
> 
> Cirencester= Siren sessta
> Gloucester = Glossta
> Bicester = Bissta
> 
> Leominster = Lemsta
> Southwark = Suthuk
> 
> Greenwich = Grinnidge
> 
> The only exception to the rule, and only in the context of this one place, is
> Leicester Square, which is invariably pronounced Lie Sessta Squaw, with the
> emphasis on Sessta. Nobody can really explain this, but it may be that on this
> one occasion the locals just gave up trying to teach the correct pronunciation
> to foreigners, and instead put ice-cream prices up to £350, plus 10% if want a
> flake and crushed nuts.
> 
> B

And just when you think you have cracked it, we drop Cholmondeley and
Featherstonhaugh on you.

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Re: New member

[mike wilson]

> On 22 April 2017 at 15:22 Toralf Lund  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22/04/17 11:40, Brian Walters wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 22, 2017, at 05:46 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:
> >> On 22/04/17 02:12, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
> >>> Watch for falling puns. Or is that failing puns?
> >> Is that a MARK!! ?
> >>
> >> Which is something that will be explained, I'm sure.
> >>
> >> Velkommen, Michael.
> >>
> >> - Toralf
> >
> >
> > Perhaps now is the time to point to the PDML FAQ. Yes, there is one -
> > and MARK! is explained, together with lots of other possibly useless
> > information some of which is now outdated :-)
> The "Cotty's Hat" entry seems to need an update. I'm not sure what 
> happened at the critical moment, there - apparently I wasn't paying 
> attention at the time.

Eating.  Lots of eating.  And not so much critical as long and lingering.

> 
> - T
> 
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html
> >
> > Oh - and welcome Michael.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >   
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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> 
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OT Waiting for Bobot

[mike wilson]

I was hoping to show a pic or two of BobW and his friend Don holding their bikes
aloft after completing the UK's sea to sea cycle route.

Unfortunately the two shattered remnants of humanity that hove into view this
afternoon, begging for hot chocolate and other warm sustenance after the weather
took a decided turn for the arctic, were hardly able to hold themselves aloft,
never mind their bikes.  It would have been more than cruel to point a lens at
them.  So I didn't.  But we were all very impressed at the intestinal fortitude
displayed.

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Re: OT Newspaper men used to dream of flatulence jokes...

[mike wilson]

> On 12 April 2017 at 13:25 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now we have the internet...
> 
> http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/11/hubble-just-spotted-something-massive-coming-out-of-uranus-6567896/

Nearly, but not quite, as good as.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39528479

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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

[mike wilson]

> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
> 
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
> appreciate any guidance.

My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to believe,
from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
else.

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Re: OT: Apologies for crashing PDML

[mike wilson]

> On 07 April 2017 at 00:12 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, at 08:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > > On 06 April 2017 at 22:59 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> > 
> > >  no film in the camera.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think you just invented a new euphemism for idiot Presidents of the US.
> 
> 
> I think that can apply more generally.  We've certainly got more than a
> fair quota.

Snap!

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Re: OT: Apologies for crashing PDML

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> On 06 April 2017 at 23:26 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2017, at 23:15, mike wilson
> mailto:m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
> 
> On 06 April 2017 at 22:59 Bob W-PDML
> mailto:p...@web-options.com>> wrote:
> 
> no film in the camera.
> 
> 
> I think you just invented a new euphemism for idiot Presidents of the US.
> 
> 
> Be careful what you say - if you criticise one of them you may be forced to
> reveal your true identity:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39522164

I'm not the one who needs to be careful.  Anyone who gets sight of me with my
knickers outside my tights is going to be really sorry, believe me.

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Re: OT: Apologies for crashing PDML

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> On 06 April 2017 at 22:59 Bob W-PDML  wrote:

>  no film in the camera.
> 

I think you just invented a new euphemism for idiot Presidents of the US.

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Re: PESO - arms

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> On 27 March 2017 at 01:55 Larry  wrote:
> 
> On March 26, 2017 3:50:52 PM PDT, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Steve Cottrell 
> >wrote:
> >> On 25/3/17, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >>
> >>>NSFW: nips.
> >>
> >> Bloody click bait on the PDML
> >
> >Sure, but did I not deliver?  It's not like I said Huge Wet Boobies
> >and then all you got was some sizeable seabirds.
> 
> One of these days you'll photograph a nude after painting her feet blue, just
> to mess with people. 

A _real_ PDMLer would start with close relatives of the Cormorant.

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Re: 2014 PDML Annual

[mike wilson]

Sorry, not clear.  You have to hit the "see more" button.

> On 30 March 2017 at 06:49 mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you scroll to the bottom of the page, there's a link to get you here:
> http://www.blurb.com/b/5303416-pdml-photo-annual-2014-hardcover
> 
> 
> > On 29 March 2017 at 17:04 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I too have been unable to contact Mark Roberts via his personal email
> > address,
> > but I might as well address the group. I would like to purchase a hardcover
> > version of the 2014 Annual. The wrap art version, not the dust jacket
> > version.
> > Blurb is all out of those. I gave mine away, and I would like to keep my set
> > of annuals complete. Blurb does have a soft cover book, so I may have to
> > settle for that, but all of my others are hard cover, so I would prefer to
> > find one. I gave mine to the young lady whose posterior was immortalized in
> > that edition, so I am bookless.

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Re: 2014 PDML Annual

[mike wilson]

If you scroll to the bottom of the page, there's a link to get you here:
http://www.blurb.com/b/5303416-pdml-photo-annual-2014-hardcover


> On 29 March 2017 at 17:04 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> I too have been unable to contact Mark Roberts via his personal email address,
> but I might as well address the group. I would like to purchase a hardcover
> version of the 2014 Annual. The wrap art version, not the dust jacket version.
> Blurb is all out of those. I gave mine away, and I would like to keep my set
> of annuals complete. Blurb does have a soft cover book, so I may have to
> settle for that, but all of my others are hard cover, so I would prefer to
> find one. I gave mine to the young lady whose posterior was immortalized in
> that edition, so I am bookless.
> 
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Re: PESO: FMX Lane

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PETB will be right on to it.

> On 29 March 2017 at 18:52 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kyklokathapsia, the modern form of taurokathapsia
> 
> > On 29 Mar 2017, at 15:59, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> > 
> > that's funny - Looks lIke a guy about to leap onto a motorcycle -  or - a
> > guy lying next tot he motorcycle that threw him
> > 
> > ann
> > 
> >> On 3/28/2017 9:02 PM, David Mann wrote:
> >> A while back I posted a photo of a spray-painted road marking showing where
> >> the cycle lane will go.  I was cycling past the museum today when I saw
> >> what looks like markings for an FMX lane. \m/
> >> 
> >> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1050/#peso

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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

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I would think that Pentax DSLRs, with in-body shake reduction, are at least as
fragile as lenses.  I'd certainly feel happier stowing an M or earlier lens in
my carryon than a modern body - and not just because of the value aspect.

> On 28 March 2017 at 16:50 Gonz  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can't you carry your lenses on board and check in the camera with no
> lenses?  I would think that the lenses would be more fragile, esp
> since you can wrap the camera in clothing and put it in your suitcase?
>  The lenses shouldn't be considered conventional "electronic device"
> since they have no battery even though they may have some chip or
> motors inside.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >
> > Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on certain airlines
> > from some destination, I've been thinking that a few options for flying are
> > no longer available for me.
> > As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other
> > cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well.
> > And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a
> > DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.
> >
> > Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying
> > their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines.
> > I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted
> > because of their reputation.
> > Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying
> > to Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with
> > United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business and
> > personal.
> >
> > It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might*
> > work:
> > (USA Today:)
> > https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
> > http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/
> >
> > With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back"
> > that it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not sure if
> > I would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure that my
> > camera bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.
> >
> > And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on
> > the arrival to US.

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Re: An idea for a silly experiment

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> On 27 March 2017 at 06:04 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> The whole time I've been shooting with dslrs an inevitable topic of 
> conversation has been comparison with film. I just realized, someone 
> could go out with a tripod, a K-1, and one or more film bodies, and take 
> each shot, with the same lens and get a direct comparison. They could 
> not only shoot at the same ISO, shutter speed, and aperture, but they 
> could also set adjust the settings on the K-1 to whatever they felt was 
> the best use of the camera's abilities.  There are several things I'm 
> curious about:
> differences of legacy glass on film vs digital
> differences of modern glass on film vs digital
> Apart from any difference in the technical quality of the images, what 
> about differences in the artistic quality of the images.
> 
> I don't think I even have a film body that will work with some of the 
> new glass, so my current lack of time to do anything like this is pretty 
> much moot.  Although a set of comparisons like this might make for a 
> really fun PDML photo expedition.

I have a Z1-p and a bunch of legacy glass.   If someone would care to lend a
K-1.

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Re: PESO The butterfly effect

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On Blackthorn (prunus spinosa)?  

> On 27 March 2017 at 15:06 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes it's a Comma. Some species are in decline, others are coming back
> like this Comma (which is more like it's moving north). Climate
> change... A once very rare moth, Oak processionary, is now a real pest
> as a caterpillar.
> 
> Toine
> 
> On 27 March 2017 at 14:30, Alan C  wrote:
> > Well you've certainly sprung back, Toine. A very apt spring photo. While
> > trying to identifying the butterfly (Comma, I think) I sadly saw that
> > butterflies are in serious decline in the Netherlands.
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Toine
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:52 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: PESO The butterfly effect
> >
> >
> > My site was broken for months after some stupid upgrades (new features
> > which broke things)
> > As a test run a shot from yesterdays photowalk:
> >
> > http://www.repiuk.nl/content/butterflyeffect/
> >
> > Spring has arrived at full speed.
> >
> > Toine
> >
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

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> On 24 March 2017 at 21:24 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24/3/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I thought that all you had to do to get that effect in England was to 
> >park a car outdoors for an hour or two.
> 
> That's Scotland.

Wales.  I still remember the sound of Minis rusting in the showrooms when I was
a lad.

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

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> On 24 March 2017 at 17:38 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24 March 2017 at 17:29, mike wilson  wrote:
> > Three.  Also very brave, wetting a 1970s Aston.  Did it ever run again?
> >
> A chamois leather was produced as soon as I'd finished and it was bone
> dry in seconds...

This guy isn't called Charles, by any chance?

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

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Three.  Also very brave, wetting a 1970s Aston.  Did it ever run again?

> On 24 March 2017 at 14:25 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Cotty. That's 2 votes for a polariser...
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 24 March 2017 at 13:59, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > On 24/3/17, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
> >>entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
> >>Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
> >>think of this:
> >>
> >>https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
> >
> > Really nice shot Chris. I like how you've kept the outline of the car
> > free from background clutter. They only thing that would improve it
> > would be the use of a polarising filter to combat sky reflection.
> >
> > Nice one!

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Re: PESO: lens compare

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> On 21 March 2017 at 04:08 Philip Northeast  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1
> 
> 1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century 
>   Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm 
> also at f8. The result may surprise.
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I don't think I've ever seen an M series 55mm - and only rarely the SuperTak
55/1.8.

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Re: PESO - Beetle

[mike wilson]

You do yourself a disservice.

> On 20 March 2017 at 09:01 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Come to think of it, I may be parroting Levon Biss' project...
> http://microsculpture.net
> His technique is just awesome, and I'd really love to figure out some of it.
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 19. mars 2017 22.40.36 CET, skrev ann sanfedele :
> >I didn't know they could fly :-)
> >
> >He really does rather look like a blimp...I like it
> >
> >ann
> >
> >On 3/18/2017 6:43 PM, Jostein wrote:
> >> http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/nitidulidae-sp-1/
> >>
> >> 645Z, FA 200/4 and Motic 10x microscope objective.
> >>
> >> Real life length of the beetle is about 3-4 mm.
> >>
> >> Pleased to see that Zerene Stacker can handle a deep stack from 50
> >Mpx 
> >> files. Took my computer some time to churn through though. :-)
> >>
> >> Also pleased to see that the image circle of the Motic was big enough
> >
> >> to avoid vignetting on this format.
> >>
> >> Jostein
> >>
> 
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Re: PESO - Beetle

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> On 18 March 2017 at 22:43 Jostein  wrote:
> 
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/nitidulidae-sp-1/
> 
> 645Z, FA 200/4 and Motic 10x microscope objective.
> 
> Real life length of the beetle is about 3-4 mm.
> 
> Pleased to see that Zerene Stacker can handle a deep stack from 50 Mpx 
> files. Took my computer some time to churn through though. :-)
> 
> Also pleased to see that the image circle of the Motic was big enough to 
> avoid vignetting on this format.

Interesting.  The Motic microscopes at work have quite awful spherical
aberration.  Maybe it's the eyepieces.

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RE: OT - Oxford comma helps in legal dispute

[mike wilson]

Nothing to do with an Oxford comma, sadly.  The OC is the superfluous comma
inserted by ruffians and ne'er-do-wells, in a list of three or more items,
before the word "and" or "or" that is before the final item.  It seems to be an
aid for those of limited comprehension.

> On 17 March 2017 at 16:09 Morris Galloway 
> wrote:
> 
> Ah the Oxford Comma!
> 'Let's eat grandmother'  or 'Let's eat, grandmother'  is where we have 
> two vastly different outcomes.  I now return to invisibility.

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Re: PESO: Lake Pukaki

[mike wilson]

Not necessarily.  Anything that produces a fine enough sediment will work - like
this old clay pit in Dorset.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pool


> On 16 March 2017 at 20:53 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> The key is that it is GLACIER produced  - a lake fed from glacier 
> runnoff...   I grabbed this abbreviated bit off the web for ya Jack..
> 
> ann
> 
> What makes glacial lakes blue?
> The silt is created when rocks underneath the surface of the ice are 
> grinding from the movement of the*glacier*. The rock flour is very light 
> and stays suspended in the*lake*water for a long time. The sunlight that 
> reflects off this rock flour is what gives the*lakes*their spectacular 
> turquoise*blue*or green colour.
> 
> On 3/16/2017 10:53 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> > Been there and another example in
> > Grand Teton National Park.
> > The explanation making the rounds
> > was "ice melt." (?)
> >
> > J
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 16, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Very nice and peaceful photo.
> >>
> >> Some 4 years ago, during my trip to Banff National Park in Canada,
> >> I also saw amazing blue color (although more teal-ish) of water:
> >> https://42graphy.org/galleries/banff-2012/_IR37060.html
> >> A frequent question that tourists ask there is what is the origin of such a
> >> color. Someone told the story that some local guides feed to some naive
> >> tourists that they regularly paint the bottom of the lake to get that look.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Igor
> >>
> >> PS. I am getting a very subtle impression that the photo is very slightly
> >> tilted (CW). This might be due to the shape+perspective of the shoreline in
> >> the middle, amplified by the apparent slope of the mountaing ridge ... So,
> >> it might not be real.
> >> In the absence of a true "horizon line", the only "reliable" line would be
> >> the vertical line connecting the image to it reflection. Those seem to be
> >> vertical, but it's hard to judge given the blurry reflection.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 3/11/2017 11:31 PM, David Mann wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Taken on the way home from Wanaka last month.  I take minor variations of
> >>> the
> >>> same photo every time I'm there...
> >>>
> >>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1043/#peso
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Dave
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Re: OT - Oxford comma helps in legal dispute

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> On 17 March 2017 at 02:36 Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> I know that several PDMLers are "grammar nerds". So, I thought they would 
> enjoy reading about this, rather rear (if not unique) case:
> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay

The appeal judges are certainly being arsey, as well as illiterate.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual update

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> On 15 March 2017 at 01:55 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> That's the plan, anyway.

You have a plan?  My im has never been so pressed.

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Re: Interesting Lens

[mike wilson]

> On 15 March 2017 at 21:30 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> 
> >> On 15 Mar 2017, at 21:06, John Francis  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 04:50:03PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1325637-REG/irix_il_15bs_pk_15mm_blackstone_lens_for.html
> >> 
> >> Hmmm.   Neutrino coating?  How do they get the neutrinos to stop?
> >
> >Charm. They keep them there with gluon.
> 
> That's a strange way of doing it.

Not if the (strong) force is with you.

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Re: CQ -- April PUG theme 20th anniversary -- please reach out!

[mike wilson]

> On 10 March 2017 at 02:08 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> >On March 6, 2017 5:19:53 AM PST, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >>
> >>-.-.  --.-
> >
> >Igor, you're such a ham!
> >
> >
> >>-.-.  --.-
> 
> The Morse the merrier!

What's Aldis fuss about now?

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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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We had one in a previous incarnation of my department.  The present building is,
sadly, not suitable.

If there are physics labs in the Uni, they should have proper blackout
facilities for light experiments.  Even the LEDs on alarm sensors will spoil the
effect.  Hopefully, one of the rooms will have a decent view and a suitable wall
to project onto or a place to fit a screen.  Then you need to work on getting
them to agree to you making a hole in their blinds

Petzval's formula will give you the optimal diameter of pinhole for sharpness.
d=2times the square root of f times lambda
d = diameter
f = focal length (pinhole to image plane, mm)
lambda = wavelength of light (nm) [choose something from the middle of the
visible spectrum, about 500]

Hole needs to be as clean and round as possible, to reduce higher order
diffraction effects.  You may need to both make the hole in something that you
attach to a bigger hole in the blind (for cleanliness of edge) and make the hole
bigger than optimal to reduce the acclimatisation time required to view the
image.

World pinhole day in April..

> On 10 March 2017 at 15:17 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
> for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?
>  
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Re: CQ -- April PUG theme 20th anniversary -- please reach out!

[mike wilson]

> On 07 March 2017 at 21:22 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 7 Mar 2017, at 15:39, Bill  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 3/7/2017 7:25 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> >> Bill wrote:
> >> 
>  On 3/7/2017 6:10 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:01 AM, David J Brooks 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > For a fee i will NOT contact Brad Dobo,.
> >>> 
> >>> Too late.
> >>> I also found Mafud/Greene.
> >> 
> >> Mafud/Greene/Ramsey
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > Kirkland Ramsey III. How could I forget.
> 
> Other names from the distance past:
> 
> Bob Blakely. Not sure what happened to him. I think he got ill. Very pro 2nd
> Amendment; argued like a terrorist.
> 
> Pal Jensen. Probably swallowed by a volcano.
> 
> Valentin Donisa. Nice but strange. Drove me around Northern Romania when I was
> there. Emigrated to Canada.
> 
> Alin Flaider. Showed me around Bucarest. Lovely guy.
> 
> Shel Belinkoff. Got on well with him, unlike some others.
> 
> Bob Shell. We all know where he is. Wonder if he gets internet rights.

Len Paris.  Worked at the Pentagon and we never heard from him again after
September 2001.  Not on any casualty lists I ever saw but I occasionally wonder
about him.

Met a couple of Polish posters and lurkers.  All seemed reasonably normal.  For
Poles.

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Re: OT: Hope this goes through - more Earthlink craziness

[mike wilson]

> On 05 March 2017 at 17:05 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> >Just a heads up to let y'all know I'm temporarily using Yahoo for PDML.
> >Which means for Gmail users, my posts will probably end up in your SPAM
> >folders.
> 
> Switching between Yahoo and Earthlink is kind of like alternating
> between "frying pan" and "fire".

That's a Mark! on so many levels.

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Re: OT - You Couldn't Make It Up Dept...

[mike wilson]

> On 01 March 2017 at 22:41 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 16:08 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps she could plead that she didn't know it was illegal...
> 
> 
> That would be phoney.

I don't get the connection.

> >
> > > On 1 Mar 2017, at 20:49, Gonz  wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems that Cottrell guy really liked that the police had 'done' a
> > > lady on her way there.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Bob W-PDML 
> > wrote:
> > >> Now that's iphonic
> > >>
> > >>> On 1 Mar 2017, at 19:26, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> UK Telegraph article...
> > >>>
> > >>> 

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Re: PDML 2017 Book Upload - last hours

[mike wilson]

Beaten only by the record (vinyl) and the film.  But the radio series.

You should give it a whirl, if the opportunity occurs.  The other stuff may have
spoiled it for you but it was exceptional for the time and holds up well.

> On 28 February 2017 at 19:58 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's very tiresome. I read it to see what all the fuss was about. Thought it
> badly written and overrated.
> 
> > On 28 Feb 2017, at 17:08, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> > 
> > oh ggeez another Hitchhiker ref..   it's like a never read it.. and I did -
> > but, well, actually I didn't read it I listened to someone else read it..
> > perhaps more would have stuck if I had see the print...
> > 
> > and it was back in the 80's on Public radio.. sigh
> > 
> > ann
> > 
> > 
> >> On 2/28/2017 11:36 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >> A reference to THHGttG (Douglas Adams) where it is the answer to life,
> >> the universe and everything. Trouble is nobody knows what the question
> >> is, so it's kind of useless.
> >> 
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)#The_Hitchhiker.27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy
> >> 
> >> As to why that's ironic in this context, well that's a good question
> >> for which 42 is most likely the answer.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:53 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >>> Ok - have to ask - why is 42 ironic?  please 'splain it to me
> >>> 
> >>> ann
> >>> 
>  On 2/28/2017 10:00 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>  On 28/2/17, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed:
>  
> > Number of photographers is now 42.
>  Ironic!

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Re: PDML 2017 Book Upload - last hours

[mike wilson]

Does that mean we are Deep Thought?  (Looks around)  Naahh

> On 28 February 2017 at 13:36 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Number of photographers is now 42.
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 28. februar 2017 14.10.17 CET, skrev Mark Roberts
> :
> >The upload page is at http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/upload.php
> >and it shuts down at midnight GMT tonight (that's 7:00 p.m. U.S. east
> >coast time and 4:00 p.m. U.S. west coast time).

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Re: OT - Any other Blackberry users on the list?

[mike wilson]

> On 25 February 2017 at 18:42 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 Feb 2017, at 17:57, Steve Cottrell
> mailto:co...@seeingeye.tv>> wrote:
> 
> On 25/2/17, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> I didn't realize that Blackberry was still in business.
> 
> I renounced my iPhone 6s some time ago. Never liked virtual keyboards on
> a phone. Persevered from 1st iPhone in Nov 2007 for nearly a decade.
> Came from Palm phones with a real keyboard. Now on a BB Classic. Like
> finding a long-lost friend.
> 
> You need two or more amanuenses*.
> 
>  http://tinyurl.com/Cotty-amanuensis

They look more like commissionaires.

> 
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5DHHt8lK6g0

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

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> On 22 February 2017 at 21:14 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/22/2017 1:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 21 February 2017 at 21:52 Bill  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >>> I just found this article.
> >>>
> >>> A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti
> >>>
> >>> https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/
> >>
> >> Nice.
> >> I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since
> >> around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of
> >> various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then
> >> put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems
> >> like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of
> >> what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first
> >> girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).
> >
> > Beg to differ.  It pretty much does what it always did, given allowance for
> > the
> > vagaries of time, plus it has bonus qualities.  As an example of how it
> > improves
> > over your first girlfriend, I'll ask how much you want for the AF-1W and
> > I'll
> > check to see which screens I am missing from my set.  I bet you didn't get
> > any
> > financial return from your other candidate in the useless stakes.
> >
> 
> Sadly, no FA-1W finder. It's about the only one I don't have.

Any other interesting system bits?

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

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> On 21 February 2017 at 21:52 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > I just found this article.
> >
> > A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti
> >
> > https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/
> 
> Nice.
> I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since 
> around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of 
> various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then 
> put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems 
> like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of 
> what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first 
> girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).

Beg to differ.  It pretty much does what it always did, given allowance for the
vagaries of time, plus it has bonus qualities.  As an example of how it improves
over your first girlfriend, I'll ask how much you want for the AF-1W and I'll
check to see which screens I am missing from my set.  I bet you didn't get any
financial return from your other candidate in the useless stakes.

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Re: PESO: Experimenting with the K-1

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But nature abhors a vacuum.

> On 19 February 2017 at 10:38 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> No, no. The codpiece was absolutely enormous. 
> 
> 
> > On 19 Feb 2017, at 07:54, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > So "enormous" is relative?
> > 
> >> On 19 February 2017 at 01:29 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well, you know - small hands...
> >> 
> >>> On 19 Feb 2017, at 01:19, mike wilson  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Gold is so last year.  Too Trumpish, as well.
> >>> 
> >>>> On 18 February 2017 at 22:23 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I don't know. I was wearing an enormous gold-sequinned codpiece, and
> >>>> little
> >>>> else. Is that a Spanx?
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 18 Feb 2017, at 22:02, Gonz  wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Were you wearing your Spanx Bob?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Bob W-PDML 
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2017, at 20:16, Bill  wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 2/18/2017 1:14 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> compared to the old APS-C cameras.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I felt odd reading "the old" for APS-C cameras.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Am I to be called ancient, then?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I never thought this would happen to me!
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Wait till young ladies start holding doors for you rather than the
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> way around.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> A couple of years ago on the tube, I was standing and two young women
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>> sitting. One of them got up and offered me her seat, which I politely
> >>>>>> declined. The other said to her friend
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> "Here, what you doing? You're insulting that man!"
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> "Yes, but he's an old man". !!!
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> "Look at him! He's in better shape than you are!"
> >>>>>> 
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Re: PESO: Experimenting with the K-1

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So "enormous" is relative?

> On 19 February 2017 at 01:29 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> Well, you know - small hands...
> 
> > On 19 Feb 2017, at 01:19, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > Gold is so last year.  Too Trumpish, as well.
> > 
> >> On 18 February 2017 at 22:23 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> >> 
> >> I don't know. I was wearing an enormous gold-sequinned codpiece, and little
> >> else. Is that a Spanx?
> >> 
> >>> On 18 Feb 2017, at 22:02, Gonz  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Were you wearing your Spanx Bob?
> >>> 
> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Bob W-PDML 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 18 Feb 2017, at 20:16, Bill  wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 2/18/2017 1:14 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
> >>>>>>> compared to the old APS-C cameras.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I felt odd reading "the old" for APS-C cameras.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Am I to be called ancient, then?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I never thought this would happen to me!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Wait till young ladies start holding doors for you rather than the other
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> >>>> 
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> >>>> were
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> >>>> 
> >>>> "Here, what you doing? You're insulting that man!"
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Re: PESO: Experimenting with the K-1

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Gold is so last year.  Too Trumpish, as well.

> On 18 February 2017 at 22:23 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> I don't know. I was wearing an enormous gold-sequinned codpiece, and little
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> 
> > On 18 Feb 2017, at 22:02, Gonz  wrote:
> > 
> > Were you wearing your Spanx Bob?
> > 
> >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 18 Feb 2017, at 20:16, Bill  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On 2/18/2017 1:14 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
> > compared to the old APS-C cameras.
>  
>  I felt odd reading "the old" for APS-C cameras.
>  
>  Am I to be called ancient, then?
>  
>  I never thought this would happen to me!
> >>> 
> >>> Wait till young ladies start holding doors for you rather than the other
> >>> way around.
> >> 
> >> A couple of years ago on the tube, I was standing and two young women were
> >> sitting. One of them got up and offered me her seat, which I politely
> >> declined. The other said to her friend
> >> 
> >> "Here, what you doing? You're insulting that man!"
> >> 
> >> "Yes, but he's an old man". !!!
> >> 
> >> "Look at him! He's in better shape than you are!"
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Re: PDML Photo Annual

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> On 18 February 2017 at 11:15 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> 
> Well, I managed to find a semi decent shot for the PDML Photo Annual.
> Just the one, sadly.
> 
> Only 10 days left so get off your arse and do it ;-)
> 
> 

Some of us would crawl on our knees for 100 miles over frozen gravel for one
semi-decent shot.

Worst year ever.

On the good news front, the Waterhouse stop plates for the Lomo Daguerrotype
lens have arrived.  Now to find some time to use them

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Re: PESO Chikadee Day

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Any time you visit, I'll take you out one night and you can tell them yourself.
 Make sure your medical insurance is fully functional.

> On 13 February 2017 at 15:51 Gonz  wrote:
> 
> 
> You guys up north have very big plump chickadees.  Ours down south are
> tiny by comparison.  I'll have to get a pic of them at our bird
> feeder.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> > Today was Chikadee day in my backyard. Not a finch, sparrow or junko in
> > sight. Odd. Chikadees keep me on my toes. They rarely stay in one spot for
> > more than a second or two.
> >
> > https://www.photo.net/photo/18352302/chikadee
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Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack!

[mike wilson]

Someone I know from the Perth hills in Australia was going to go for a ride the
other day but:
http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae266/GU221/fasdegsbn_1.jpg

That's 55degrees Centigrade (131 in Funnymoney) so he decided to wait until
evening.

Here, it's dead normal February weather. ~0degrees, leaden skies (for weeks,
seemingly) and perpetual drizzle/sleet.  I think I need vitamin D injections.

> On 13 February 2017 at 02:45 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> It was 80 deg F here in Raleigh today. That's 5 deg higher than the old
> record.
> 
> Normal High temperatures for February are around 54 deg F.
> 
> Temps are falling off now. It should be 40 deg overnight.
> 
> By Wednesday they're calling for a high of 52 deg F, more like regular
> temperatures, but they're also calling for it to be back up to 70 deg F
> by the weekend.
> 
> I just don't know what to think.

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Re: Peso - Fake Gnus

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> On 11 February 2017 at 23:45 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> started out as a photo taken with a pentax LX... so not OT :-)
> 
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Graphic-Design/Anns-design-work/i-9cj5tcG/L
> 
> I've loaded it onto cafe press but it may not be searchable yet

That's a gnusance.

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Re: Oh how the might fall...

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> On 10 February 2017 at 19:01 "P. J. Alling" 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So I received a missive from KEH.com advertising a sale on Bargain and 
> Ugly equipment.  (The picture with the advert. was pretty funny so I 
> gave it a click), then decided to look at Bargain SLRs, the *ist-D which 
> once sold for $1600.00 is now worth $43.00 the Nikon D70 which was even 
> more expensive can now be had for $47.   Damn modern tech is ephemeral.

Once the industry shot itself in the foot by allowing folks to cease printing,
it had to find maintenance costs from somewhere.

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Re: Masham

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> On 09 February 2017 at 23:09 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> 
> 
> > On 9 Feb 2017, at 13:48, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>> And this
> >>> 
> >>> <http://www.web-options.com/Masham/content/P0060248_large.html>
> >>> 
> >>> Stunning
> > 
> > On 8/2/17, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> Masham railway station is a chronological anomaly that only appears when
> >> its
> >> favourite son comes visiting from t'big city down south.  It's the
> > other train
> >> that goes from platform 9.75 at King's Cross. One of the staff was born
> >> in 1863
> >> - he's the tea boy.  Once Bob goes, it's back into limbo for the whole
> >> place.
> > 
> > Just realised this pic couldn't have been taken in Yorkshire as there
> > are overhead power cables clearly visible.
> > 
> 
> They're not real. It's a cargo cult up there. When the 'train' arrived I
> noticed it was being pulled with lianas by a 300 slaves in loincloths,
> rhythmically chanting "Choof! Choof!"

A third rail system was tried in the past but the natives would keep cuddling up
to them to keep warm.

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Re: Masham

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> On 07 February 2017 at 18:27 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 6/2/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >
> >Enjoy (I hope).
> 
> And this
> 
> 
> 
> Stunning

Masham railway station is a chronological anomaly that only appears when its
favourite son comes visiting from t'big city down south.  It's the other train
that goes from platform 9.75 at King's Cross. One of the staff was born in 1863
- he's the tea boy.  Once Bob goes, it's back into limbo for the whole place.

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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

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Thee's something about secondhand wheelie chairs.  On the same day, I was
leaning out of mine and my daughter came in to hug me.  Over we go, me landing
on an upturned three pin plug (
https://anjungsainssmkss.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/tupel08.jpg ) and
intertwined with Katy so that we couldn't move until Cath came in to help.  I
thought I had been stabbed.

So my "there, there" consists of recycling the beast with a  "This damned chair
is going _there_.  There!"

> On 04 February 2017 at 22:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant 
> in the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
> has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
> on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  
> which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the 
> chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the 
> back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was 
> a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the 
> top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a 
> lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day 
> ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but 
> the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin 
> Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 
> or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
> bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
> "there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
> who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
> neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
> difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on 
> Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
> again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my 
> main bed and the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate 
> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
> check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
> get things accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
> as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad 
> it didn't require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
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Re: Boston

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> On 02 February 2017 at 23:28 John Francis  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 12:50:03PM -0600, Gonz wrote:
> > Yum, Union Oyster House... Been there a few times when I lived there.
> > Some of the best Lobster, and for sure the best clam chowder.
> 
> Legal Seafood afficionados might challenge that claim ...

Is that a clam jumping accusation?

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Re: PESO - a grape snack

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Apparently, it's so well worded that you have to grope the women you don't like.

> On 01 February 2017 at 19:19 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> 
> I thought The Donald had cured all that, and we can all grope any woman we
> like.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 1 Feb 2017, at 15:43, Gonz  wrote:
> > 
> > My sentiments exactly.  Love the pic, just can't go opening it here
> > with women around me and all political correctness bullshit flying
> > around.
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Charles Robinson
> >  wrote:
> >> I've got to clarify - it didn't offend my sensibilities, it's just that in
> >> a shared-office environment I have to be much more circumspect about what I
> >> splash across the big displays.  Something about wanting to keep my job and
> >> all... :-)
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Bruce Walker 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> >>> wrote:
>  On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bruce Walker 
>  wrote:
>  
> > Sorry if that caused problems for you folks.
>  
>  
>  I thought it quite modest, actually.
> >>> 
> >>> I appreciate that, Dan. So did I, but then I'm apparently the group's
> >>> official pornographer so my decency standards may be suspect. ;)
> >>> 
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

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Hang on a bit.  I need to buy some Leica shares.

> On 22 January 2017 at 10:59 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
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> Karin didn't make it. All is lost...
> 
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> > out the bugs and achieved perfection, chevelure-wise
> >
> > http://lossofface.co.uk/Images/ArthurScargill.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 Jan 2017, at 09:09, mike wilson  > m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
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> > They made _two_ of those?
> >
> > On 21 January 2017 at 18:03 Bob W-PDML  > d...@web-options.com>> wrote:
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> >
> > Do you think my genuine-style Donald Trump wig will do it?
> >
> > On 21 Jan 2017, at 17:22, Chris Mitchell  > chris.mitch...@which.net>> wrote:
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> >
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

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That's better than this cheap knockoff, crafted in a croft on the Outer
Hebrides.
http://images.radiotimes.com/namedimage/Andrew_Neil__politicians_are_frightened_of_me.jpg?quality=85&mode=crop&width=620&height=374&404=tv&url=/uploads/images/original/76185.jpg

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> Mine's more by way of an early experimental version, before they ironed out
> the bugs and achieved perfection, chevelure-wise
> 
> http://lossofface.co.uk/Images/ArthurScargill.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 Jan 2017, at 09:09, mike wilson
> mailto:m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
> 
> They made _two_ of those?
> 
> On 21 January 2017 at 18:03 Bob W-PDML
> mailto:p...@web-options.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you think my genuine-style Donald Trump wig will do it?
> 
> On 21 Jan 2017, at 17:22, Chris Mitchell
> mailto:chris.mitch...@which.net>> wrote:
> 
> I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
> to any Leica shops.
> 
> I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
> plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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