Re: Anyone looking for Zeiss Optics.
On 14/2/17, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >I like the look and feel of the lens, I like the results. But do I >really need this when I have the D FA 24-70mm f2.8? >Well, but then I think about fixed-focal shooting, and what a nice set >of primes I have in the 20/2.8, 24/2.0, 35/2.0, 50/1.2, 100/2.8 macro... >But only the macro is a "modern" lens with some degree of weather >resistance, and with autofocus combined with a quick-shift feature. >The Zeiss 35/2.0 and others of my fixed-focal-length collection >periodically get moved to the "sell these soon" end of the shelf. And >then I fondle them and take a few pictures and put them back out of >harm's way. > >I don't think you would go wrong buying one of these lenses. Cheers Stan! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On Feb 14, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Stanley Halpin > wrote: > > FWIW, I have a ZK 35mm f2.0 T* which I have used sparingly. Never having > owned a Pentax 35mm, I can’t make any sort of comparison. > > I like the look and feel of the lens, I like the results. But do I really > need this when I have the D FA 24-70mm f2.8? > Well, but then I think about fixed-focal shooting, and what a nice set of > primes I have in the 20/2.8, 24/2.0, 35/2.0, 50/1.2, 100/2.8 macro… > But only the macro is a “modern” lens with some degree of weather resistance, > and with autofocus combined with a quick-shift feature. > The Zeiss 35/2.0 and others of my fixed-focal-length collection periodically > get moved to the “sell these soon” end of the shelf. And then I fondle them > and take a few pictures and put them back out of harm’s way. > > I don’t think you would go wrong buying one of these lenses. > > stan > I just checked, the on-line store where I bought the 35/2.0 Distagon has another for sale: $628 http://stores.ebay.com/Matsuiyastore/Zeiss-/_i.html?_fsub=3629112&_sid=209579062&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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FWIW, I have a ZK 35mm f2.0 T* which I have used sparingly. Never having owned a Pentax 35mm, I can’t make any sort of comparison. I like the look and feel of the lens, I like the results. But do I really need this when I have the D FA 24-70mm f2.8? Well, but then I think about fixed-focal shooting, and what a nice set of primes I have in the 20/2.8, 24/2.0, 35/2.0, 50/1.2, 100/2.8 macro… But only the macro is a “modern” lens with some degree of weather resistance, and with autofocus combined with a quick-shift feature. The Zeiss 35/2.0 and others of my fixed-focal-length collection periodically get moved to the “sell these soon” end of the shelf. And then I fondle them and take a few pictures and put them back out of harm’s way. I don’t think you would go wrong buying one of these lenses. stan > On Jan 22, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 22/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> KEH.com has a ZK 50mm f1.4 T* for a not outrageous price. "A" mount >> equivalent. I'd buy it but I'm broke at the moment. > > How do you think it compares optically to the Pentax M50/1.4 ? > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > _ > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A planar is sharp enough to create wood shavings... On 1/24/2017 2:42 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:34, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I used to have an M 50/1.4 and a Zeiss T* 50/1.4 when I had the Contax kit. I preferred the Zeiss, What's the difference between a Planar and a Tessar? No idear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:34, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 24/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I used to have an M 50/1.4 and a Zeiss T* 50/1.4 when I had the Contax >> kit. I preferred the Zeiss, > > What's the difference between a Planar and a Tessar? No idear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/1/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >The Tessar is a four-element lens with a maximum aperture of 2.8, the >Planar has six or seven elements and opens up to 1.4. > >The Tessar had its hayday when a lack of efficient lens coatings acted >in favour of designs with less glass/air surfaces. > >The Planar has a far better sharpness distribution. > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessar >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeiss_Planar Thanks Ralf -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Purely coincidentally, Planar optical scheme was invented by Zeiss. So, like it or not, most if not all 50/1.4 lenses have some Zeiss Inside (tm). On 24 Jan 2017 13:17, "Ralf R Radermacher" wrote: Am 24.01.17 um 11:34 schrieb Steve Cottrell: What's the difference between a Planar and a Tessar? > The Tessar is a four-element lens with a maximum aperture of 2.8, the Planar has six or seven elements and opens up to 1.4. The Tessar had its hayday when a lack of efficient lens coatings acted in favour of designs with less glass/air surfaces. The Planar has a far better sharpness distribution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeiss_Planar Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 24.01.17 um 11:34 schrieb Steve Cottrell: What's the difference between a Planar and a Tessar? The Tessar is a four-element lens with a maximum aperture of 2.8, the Planar has six or seven elements and opens up to 1.4. The Tessar had its hayday when a lack of efficient lens coatings acted in favour of designs with less glass/air surfaces. The Planar has a far better sharpness distribution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeiss_Planar Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >I used to have an M 50/1.4 and a Zeiss T* 50/1.4 when I had the Contax >kit. I preferred the Zeiss, What's the difference between a Planar and a Tessar? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >I used to have an M 50/1.4 and a Zeiss T* 50/1.4 [snip] Thanks Bob - much appreciated -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One can't disagree with you Zos especially if one had pots of money or were a PRO or were an old fart like me. But foot in mouth, may I add that in todays use and throw world - repairs difficult & expensive - plastics are just as good as metal. In fact space age plastics are stronger than steel - such is our technical marvel. And soon plastic will replace glass lenses too. Any way I have a horde of lenses from 70 years back to today - mostly consumer lenses but darn good. Here is what I do to pick the sharpest and the best value for money. a) Read up reviews on the Internet. Example there are Pentax & Russian Lenses of Zeiss design but at less than half the cost. So I pick up a few. b) I will repeatedly buy a consumer lens till I get one that is darn good and in like new condition. These are my keepers. Example I have a Sigma 10-20 EX DC f4-5.6. When enlarged you can see the pores or hair on a ladies face much to her disappointment. German lenses like Zeiss were good in the days of B&W Photography bye & large - stress on bye & large. But modern day computer designed optics in space age plastic bodies will outrun most - emphasis on most - old German design lenses - in color, contrast, sharpness & pop. Except for the rare legacy glass. One is the Pentax A 35-105 f3.5 macro if you get a good copy. I don't see why one should not buy Zeiss if one has the moolah, is a Pro or wish to have bragging rights. A lady friend of ours bought a Sari for INR 180,000 (US $ 2600) and chose to leave the price tag on. Most Party or Marriage wear Saris cost $ 300 to 400 as per the misus. May the Force be with you. Bipin. Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 22 Jan 2017, at 16:36, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 22/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> KEH.com has a ZK 50mm f1.4 T* for a not outrageous price. "A" mount >> equivalent. I'd buy it but I'm broke at the moment. > > How do you think it compares optically to the Pentax M50/1.4 ? > I used to have an M 50/1.4 and a Zeiss T* 50/1.4 when I had the Contax kit. I preferred the Zeiss, and I'd go as far as to say that the Zeiss lenses I had, from 20mm up to 300mm and just about everything in between were the best I've ever owned[1]. I'd previously owned a full range of Pentax lenses, including the M* ones, so I think I have a fair basis for comparison. That was in the film days, but Contax never brought out a decent compatible digital body, and the Zeiss lenses didn't work well with the Olympus 4/3rds bodies I bought. Everything I've read and heard about the current Zeiss lenses suggests they're just as good as my old ones. I wouldn't hesitate to buy Zeiss if I had the appropriate camera and money. [1] current Leitz stuff might be better, but all my Leitz lenses were bought second-hand and are quite old - 1960s to 1980s. I have no plans to buy new ones. Of course this all depends on how you define good, and in this sort of discussion I don't forget that people like HCB, Capa etc. did OK with old lenses, and that spm photographers, like James Ravilious, deliberately seek out old lenses for particular qualities they have which suits their subject matter. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Taken with Pentax K5 with Zeiss ZS 50mm f1.4 T* https://flic.kr/p/LWcBnk Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 23/1/17 3:35 am, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 22/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: KEH.com has a ZK 50mm f1.4 T* for a not outrageous price. "A" mount equivalent. I'd buy it but I'm broke at the moment. How do you think it compares optically to the Pentax M50/1.4 ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Leitz on a Leica, not Zeiss. regards, Anthony On 24 January 2017 at 01:30, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Bipin, > > Is there some point to this post? I'm mystified. > > G > > > > On Jan 22, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > > > > 70 Years or more ago Zeiss and the Germans made good lenses - perhaps > > the best - as there were no others making lenses then!!?? > > The Russians and the Japanese stepped in to slowly match Zeiss and > > later exceed them. > > They were followed by the Koreans who made equally good optics. > > And now the Chinese are repeating History once again. > > > > Even countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, etc > > make - err rather assemble - great Lenses & Photo Gear. > > > > Well the truth is this statement has been made popular by one of our > > own PDMLers:- > > > > "Buy a Leica, get the full Leica Experience? - a quick reduction of > > funds in the bank a/c". > > > > Where LEICA = ZEISS now (ie please replace Leica with Zeiss in the > > statement above). > > > > There you are, go ahead and buy a Zeiss Len for $ when you can buy > > similar or better ones for much less > > er > > friends. > > > > Regards. > > Bipin > > > > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > > Peter Galassi > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Steve Cottrell wrote: On 23/1/17, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed: Which is going to be worth more in 10 years? Plastic samyang lenses or bulletproof metal and glass zeiss ZK glass? Zeiss is a good investment no matter what. I agree. But I would point out that my Samyang 12/2 is not made of plastic. It is my experience that the build quality of my Samyang lenses is excellent. For any task where manual focus is appropriate, I would have no hesitation buying one of their lenses, and as a matter of fact would look at them first, no matter what the cost. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Fair enough. :) On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 23/1/17, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Which is going to be worth more in 10 years? Plastic samyang lenses or >>bulletproof metal and glass zeiss ZK glass? Zeiss is a good investment >>no matter what. > > I agree. > > But I would point out that my Samyang 12/2 is not made of plastic. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 23/1/17, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed: >Which is going to be worth more in 10 years? Plastic samyang lenses or >bulletproof metal and glass zeiss ZK glass? Zeiss is a good investment >no matter what. I agree. But I would point out that my Samyang 12/2 is not made of plastic. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmm. Well, what is your personal experience in proof of this allegation? I have used Pentax lenses extensively, as well as lenses from Nikon, Olympus, Canon, and Panasonic amongst others, as well as a number of both Leica and Zeiss lenses. My experience shows me that: Regardless of manufacturer or the so-called lens testers like DxO, there are specific lenses in every lens line that are outstanding performers. And there are lenses in every manufacturers' lens line that do not perform up to their most outstanding performers. The differences between the manufacturers lie in the delta between their top notch offerings and their most mediocre, and in how many lenses fall into the mediocre class vs the top notch class, and in what their average lens performance is like. So this is how I rate the lenses I've used ... and remember that I've used many many lenses over a span of 50+ years to develop this evaluation: In the first category (the delta between best and most mediocre), Leica and Zeiss consistently show the least delta; Olympus and Nikon are the next tier down; Canon, Sony, Panasonic, and Pentax are the lowest tier. In the second category (what percentage of their lens offerings fall into the mediocre class) Leica and Zeiss have the lowest percentage that rank down into mediocre where Pentax, Sony, and Canon have the highest percentages. Olympus, Nikon, Panasonic are all in-between. I didn't list consistency of build quality because, of course, I have only rarely had access to several examples of the same lens from any manufacturer at the same time to get a feel for that, but I tend to think that the same rankings apply because by the law of averages, the lenses I've had should be reasonably representative of the averages in spite of the small sample size.* In the third category (what the average lens performance of a manufacturers' entire line taken as a whole is), there is no question that Leica and Zeiss produce the highest average performance across the line and that all the others are much more variable across their lens line. One reason for this is that Leica and Zeiss generally speaking only produce a small number of lenses compared to the others, and they're all at the upper range of price and design spec envelopes, where all the rest make a larger number of from dirt cheap consumer grade lenses up to top notch, 'price no object' pro lenses. With Leica and Zeiss lenses, the discussion between equipment geeks isn't so much "this lens is so much better than that lens" as it is "I like the rendering qualities of this lens a bit more for this subject matter than that lens" ... When it comes to buying Leica and Zeiss lenses, I can generally advise a newcomer by saying, "All the options are pretty darn good, but you might like this one over that one due to its price and these characteristics" whereas with other manufacturers' lines it's more, "Buy this one because that one doesn't really work all that well." So while your thesis can be true ... you can indeed 'go ahead and buy an expensive Zeiss lens when you can choose to buy a similar or better one for less money' in many cases ... the statement is both a bit simplistic and actually doesn't reflect the practical reality: it's more difficult to know what you're getting with those less expensive lenses. Sometimes you can get a real bargain, many times you get something that is mediocre and doesn't stand up to close scrutiny. (BTW, despite that I have a pretty complete kit of what I find to be truly excellent Leica and Zeiss lenses nowadays, the Pentax FA77/1.8 and FA43/1.9 Limited lenses remain in my topmost tier of lenses I remember fondly for their excellent performance. I still have an FA43 Limited, in fact, and even though I only use the K-01 very infrequently I'm loathe to let go of it just because it gives me access to that lens on its native mount.) G > On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > > Sorry Godfrey for mystifying you. > > The last line is pretty clear "go ahead and buy a Zeiss Lens for $ > when you can buy > similar or better ones for much less". > > > Someone was expounding the Zeiss Lens for Pentax DSLRs. No doubt Zeiss > make great > lenses. But all I was saying is that you can buy just as good ones > from non Zeiss sources > at half the cost. > > I was also making the point that Germany & Zeiss are no longer world > leaders in Lens design. > > Regards. > Bipin. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Which is going to be worth more in 10 years? Plastic samyang lenses or bulletproof metal and glass zeiss ZK glass? Zeiss is a good investment no matter what. On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > Sorry Godfrey for mystifying you. > > The last line is pretty clear "go ahead and buy a Zeiss Lens for $ > when you can buy > similar or better ones for much less". > > > Someone was expounding the Zeiss Lens for Pentax DSLRs. No doubt Zeiss > make great > lenses. But all I was saying is that you can buy just as good ones > from non Zeiss sources > at half the cost. > > I was also making the point that Germany & Zeiss are no longer world > leaders in Lens design. > > Regards. > Bipin. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry Godfrey for mystifying you. The last line is pretty clear "go ahead and buy a Zeiss Lens for $ when you can buy similar or better ones for much less". Someone was expounding the Zeiss Lens for Pentax DSLRs. No doubt Zeiss make great lenses. But all I was saying is that you can buy just as good ones from non Zeiss sources at half the cost. I was also making the point that Germany & Zeiss are no longer world leaders in Lens design. Regards. Bipin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bipin, Is there some point to this post? I'm mystified. G > On Jan 22, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > > 70 Years or more ago Zeiss and the Germans made good lenses - perhaps > the best - as there were no others making lenses then!!?? > The Russians and the Japanese stepped in to slowly match Zeiss and > later exceed them. > They were followed by the Koreans who made equally good optics. > And now the Chinese are repeating History once again. > > Even countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, etc > make - err rather assemble - great Lenses & Photo Gear. > > Well the truth is this statement has been made popular by one of our > own PDMLers:- > > "Buy a Leica, get the full Leica Experience? - a quick reduction of > funds in the bank a/c". > > Where LEICA = ZEISS now (ie please replace Leica with Zeiss in the > statement above). > > There you are, go ahead and buy a Zeiss Len for $ when you can buy > similar or better ones for much less > er > friends. > > Regards. > Bipin > > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > Peter Galassi > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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70 Years or more ago Zeiss and the Germans made good lenses - perhaps the best - as there were no others making lenses then!!?? The Russians and the Japanese stepped in to slowly match Zeiss and later exceed them. They were followed by the Koreans who made equally good optics. And now the Chinese are repeating History once again. Even countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, etc make - err rather assemble - great Lenses & Photo Gear. Well the truth is this statement has been made popular by one of our own PDMLers:- "Buy a Leica, get the full Leica Experience? - a quick reduction of funds in the bank a/c". Where LEICA = ZEISS now (ie please replace Leica with Zeiss in the statement above). There you are, go ahead and buy a Zeiss Len for $ when you can buy similar or better ones for much less er friends. Regards. Bipin "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 22/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >I don't have direct evidence for the Zeiss only reviews and reputation. >That said, the Pentax, in fact all Pentax 50mm/55mm* are classic >designs. A bit soft wide open, softer in the corners on film. Stop down >to f4.0 or 5.6 and they become sharp as hell, but I expect you noticed >this. This behavior is by design, to give a soft look to portraits >while enabling greater sharpness for other purposes. > >The Zeiss is supposed to be a more modern design but still has the >classic behavior, sharpening up at f2.8, getting sharper as you stop >down to about f8.0. They are similar beasts, but the Zeiss is slightly >sharper. > >Mechanically the Zeiss is built like an old fashioned Takumar M42 screw >mount lens, all high quality metal plus a metal bayonet on lens hood, >something the Tak's never had.Strangely though this lens is part of >a series released in the 0's it came in Nikon F, Canon EOS, Pentax Ka, >and M42... > >In case you're interested you can read God's Great Gift to >Photography's** review of this lens, which is as opinionated and and >laughably at odds with pretty much ever other review as you might expect. > >*The 43mm Ltd, and 40mm M lenses share this characteristic to some >extent too. > >**Kennyboy in his own mind, he's so sure of himself, if you didn't know >better, you might just believe him. Very interesting! Thanks for the insight PJ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone looking for Zeiss Optics.
I don't have direct evidence for the Zeiss only reviews and reputation. That said, the Pentax, in fact all Pentax 50mm/55mm* are classic designs. A bit soft wide open, softer in the corners on film. Stop down to f4.0 or 5.6 and they become sharp as hell, but I expect you noticed this. This behavior is by design, to give a soft look to portraits while enabling greater sharpness for other purposes. The Zeiss is supposed to be a more modern design but still has the classic behavior, sharpening up at f2.8, getting sharper as you stop down to about f8.0. They are similar beasts, but the Zeiss is slightly sharper. Mechanically the Zeiss is built like an old fashioned Takumar M42 screw mount lens, all high quality metal plus a metal bayonet on lens hood, something the Tak's never had.Strangely though this lens is part of a series released in the 0's it came in Nikon F, Canon EOS, Pentax Ka, and M42... In case you're interested you can read God's Great Gift to Photography's** review of this lens, which is as opinionated and and laughably at odds with pretty much ever other review as you might expect. *The 43mm Ltd, and 40mm M lenses share this characteristic to some extent too. **Kennyboy in his own mind, he's so sure of himself, if you didn't know better, you might just believe him. On 1/22/2017 11:35 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 22/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: KEH.com has a ZK 50mm f1.4 T* for a not outrageous price. "A" mount equivalent. I'd buy it but I'm broke at the moment. How do you think it compares optically to the Pentax M50/1.4 ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone looking for Zeiss Optics.
On 22/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >KEH.com has a ZK 50mm f1.4 T* for a not outrageous price. "A" mount >equivalent. I'd buy it but I'm broke at the moment. How do you think it compares optically to the Pentax M50/1.4 ? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Anyone looking for Zeiss Optics.
KEH.com has a ZK 50mm f1.4 T* for a not outrageous price. "A" mount equivalent. I'd buy it but I'm broke at the moment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
