Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
that sounds odd to me - I had no problems uploading images edited in CS2. Some of the files I had even had captions and / or copyright notices added to the EXIF data. - MCC J wrote: When you edit a photo (with Photoshop) taken with a digital camera, Photoshop changes some of the Exif info. If you remember when I talked about the Pentax gallery rejecting some photos taken with the ist D body because the gallery could not read the Pentax ist D firmware in the Exif file as Photoshop changes it to read Photoshop as the firmware. Adobe is aware of this and there was talk of it being fixed in Photoshop CS3.. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Photoshop and the Exif info
When you edit a photo (with Photoshop) taken with a digital camera, Photoshop changes some of the Exif info. If you remember when I talked about the Pentax gallery rejecting some photos taken with the ist D body because the gallery could not read the Pentax ist D firmware in the Exif file as Photoshop changes it to read Photoshop as the firmware. Adobe is aware of this and there was talk of it being fixed in Photoshop CS3.. Does anyone on the list use a good Exif editor such as Opanda which is kind of expension. I have looked at a lot of Exif readers and editors and none of them(that I am aware of) will let you change the firmware listing in the Exif file. Some of you guys said just to say it was a scanned photo and clear out all the exif info. But if you do that, when you say what camera was used (ist D), the gallery looks for the exif info and can not find it and rejects it. Ok so anyone have a good work around this or a good Exif editor that will let you change the firmware listing back to Pentax ist DThanks Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
J wrote: I have looked at a lot of Exif readers and editors and none of them(that I am aware of) will let you change the firmware listing in the Exif file. EXIF Editor lets you change anything and everything in the EXIF data: http://www.kiwiczech.net/index.php?menu=353sub=4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- Original message -- From: J [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you edit a photo (with Photoshop) taken with a digital camera, Photoshop changes some of the Exif info. If you remember when I talked about the Pentax gallery rejecting some photos taken with the ist D body because the gallery could not read the Pentax ist D firmware in the Exif file as Photoshop changes it to read Photoshop as the firmware. Adobe is aware of this and there was talk of it being fixed in Photoshop CS3.. Does anyone on the list use a good Exif editor such as Opanda which is kind of expension. I have looked at a lot of Exif readers and editors and none of them(that I am aware of) will let you change the firmware listing in the Exif file. Some of you guys said just to say it was a scanned photo and clear out all the exif info. But if you do that, when you say what camera was used (ist D), the gallery looks for the exif info and can not find it and rejects it. Ok so anyone have a good work around this or a good Exif editor that will let you change the firmware listing back to Pentax ist DThanks Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Hello J, Looking at an EXIF file, there are 3 entirely different entries: Equipment Maker: PENTAX Corporation Equipment Model: PENTAX *ist DS (my camera) Software Used: Adobe Photoshop CS Depending on software reading the EXIF file, software used is sometime seen as firmware. Editing something in Photoshop (I use a PC) inserts the software used line. If I shot in RAW, I would usually process it through the Pentax Photo Laboratory so it would have that under software used, I notice that Photoshop overwrites that line when you do something there. Photoshop also knocks off the lens data, which is why you are asked to manually identify the lens whether the photo was scanned or digital. I checked most of the shots I submitted and were accepted and they all bore the software used - Adobe Photoshop CS line. In any case, that can be manually edited using the EXIFeditor Mark mentioned earlier. Besides the EXIFeditor Mark gave a link to, I also use Exifer (http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/) to view the contents of my EXIF file (but its for Windows only and cannot edit everything like EXIFeditor does). Cheers, Bong On 5/9/07, J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Me three ! (*ist D, K10D, PS CS2) I shoot Raw when I convert (initially to tiff finally to jpeg), I notice 1 addition in the camera exif listing - software changes from K10D version 1.10 to Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows. Camera Make model are unchanged in the conversion (Pentax Corp Pentax K10D) Probably a third of my Gallery submissions have been from either the *ist D or the K10D, with no issues. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photoshop and the Exif info Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
I'm using a Mac and running PSCS 1. Haven't had a problem with Pentax gallery uploads. Paul -- Original message -- From: J [EMAIL PROTECTED] What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
I'm running Windows (Although some days it seems to be running me ;-) This is one of the actual K10D files I submitted that was accepted (with EXIF): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP0227.jpg ...and one of the *istD files: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/IMGP2861.jpg All I did was use Save as instead of Save for web. Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Bong Manayon wrote: Looking at an EXIF file, there are 3 entirely different entries: Equipment Maker: PENTAX Corporation Equipment Model: PENTAX *ist DS (my camera) Software Used: Adobe Photoshop CS This is exactly what I get. And I've never had a problem uploading to the Pentax Gallery after converting and editing in Photoshop. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
On May 9, 2007, at 8:20 AM, J wrote: What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe Photoshop CS2, Mac OS X. Opened IMGP3329.PEF, created a Photoshop PSD files, Save As to JPEG. EXIF Metadata in the PEF file reads ... Software: *ist DS V2.00 Date Time: 9/10/06, 1:38:04 PM ... where EXIF Metadata in the JPEG file reads ... Software: Adobe Photoshop CS2 Macintosh Date Time: Today, 9:25:25 AM ... as it ought to. The *ist DS did not create the JPEG file, Photoshop CS2 did. If I import the PEF file with Lightroom and export a JPEG file: ... Software: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Date Time: Today, 9:43:37 AM ... again, as it ought to. If I open the PEF file with Camera Raw and save as directly to a JPEG file, these fields are not changed at all. I consider that an error. But as others have said, this should make no difference at all as to whether Pentax accepts or rejects a file. The Make, Model, Lens and all other bits of the EXIF metadata information are exactly as the camera set them. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Bong Manayon wrote: that line when you do something there. Photoshop also knocks off the lens data, which is why you are asked to manually identify the lens whether the photo was scanned or digital. more precisely Camera RAW 2.x doesn't care about lens make, but this info is preserved in Camera RAW 3.x and later - e.g. PS CS2, PSE 3-5. Unfortunately, the last Camera RAW compatible with PS CS is 2.4... Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
On Feb 16, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Now why didn't I think of this? Your mind is too highly trained, probably. *cough* Doug Brewer http://www.drivingtheflies.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Doug Brewer wrote: On Feb 16, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Now why didn't I think of this? Your mind is too highly trained, probably. *cough* Did you at least get the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Doug Brewer wrote: On Feb 15, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Any guidance is appreciated. Convert the RAW file into a JPEG, without worrying about appearance, using Pentax software. This *will* have the EXIF info, but won't look the way you like. Then create a second version using your previously-described process. This will look the way you want but won't have EXIF. Open the first file in Photoshop 7. Then open the second file in Photoshop. Paste the good-looking file w/o EXIF *onto* the bad-looking file with EXIF and flatten. You'll end up with a file that looks like the good one and contains the EXIF from the first one. You can even add EXIF data to files scanned from film this way :-) Now why didn't I think of this? Your mind is too highly trained, probably. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
EXIF info
For some reason, the people who control the money for the City don't think I necessarily have to have the absolute latest Photoshop on my work computer so I can work on my personal photography. hmpf. So anyway, I'm still at PS7 here, and so I have to convert my PEF or DNG shots using a 3rd party converter (IrfanView) to TIFFs before I can PS them into the normal messes I post links to now and again. I have found, during recent searching for material for an upcoming gallery, that the EXIF info for these converted shots are not surviving the conversion. Since the gallery needs the EXIF info, I'm kinda stuck. So, what I need to know, if you don't mind, is if there is a converter that I can use that will not strip this info out, or can I just use IrfanView to re-convert the RAW images into JPGs straightaway, which will preserve the info, but leave me working to get top quality from JPG files, something I'd rather not do? Any guidance is appreciated. I have the Lightroom beta installed on this machine, but it's so slow and resource-eating as to be unusable. Thanks, Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
What OS are you on? There must be RAW converters that do not strip out the EXIF data and will output direct to JPEG format. I think the free version of Silkypix outputs only to JPEG, you might try that. (Even though I think the UI is abysmal.) It's just a few days to Lightroom v1.0 release anyway ... ;-) Godfrey On Feb 15, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: For some reason, the people who control the money for the City don't think I necessarily have to have the absolute latest Photoshop on my work computer so I can work on my personal photography. hmpf. So anyway, I'm still at PS7 here, and so I have to convert my PEF or DNG shots using a 3rd party converter (IrfanView) to TIFFs before I can PS them into the normal messes I post links to now and again. I have found, during recent searching for material for an upcoming gallery, that the EXIF info for these converted shots are not surviving the conversion. Since the gallery needs the EXIF info, I'm kinda stuck. So, what I need to know, if you don't mind, is if there is a converter that I can use that will not strip this info out, or can I just use IrfanView to re-convert the RAW images into JPGs straightaway, which will preserve the info, but leave me working to get top quality from JPG files, something I'd rather not do? Any guidance is appreciated. I have the Lightroom beta installed on this machine, but it's so slow and resource-eating as to be unusable. Thanks, Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Doug Brewer wrote: Any guidance is appreciated. Convert the RAW file into a JPEG, without worrying about appearance, using Pentax software. This *will* have the EXIF info, but won't look the way you like. Then create a second version using your previously-described process. This will look the way you want but won't have EXIF. Open the first file in Photoshop 7. Then open the second file in Photoshop. Paste the good-looking file w/o EXIF *onto* the bad-looking file with EXIF and flatten. You'll end up with a file that looks like the good one and contains the EXIF from the first one. You can even add EXIF data to files scanned from film this way :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Doug, So, what I need to know, if you don't mind, is if there is a converter that I can use that will not strip this info out, or can I just use IrfanView to re-convert the RAW images into JPGs straightaway, which will preserve the info, but leave me working to get top quality from JPG files, something I'd rather not do? you can try UFRAW, http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ Basically it's a GUI interface for DCRAW command line software on which a whole lot of the other RAW converters are based, including ACR, Bibble, IrfanView, etc... Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Doug Brewer wrote: For some reason, the people who control the money for the City don't think I necessarily have to have the absolute latest Photoshop on my work computer so I can work on my personal photography. hmpf. So anyway, I'm still at PS7 here, and so I have to convert my PEF or DNG shots using a 3rd party converter (IrfanView) to TIFFs before I can PS them into the normal messes I post links to now and again. I have found, during recent searching for material for an upcoming gallery, that the EXIF info for these converted shots are not surviving the conversion. Since the gallery needs the EXIF info, I'm kinda stuck. So, what I need to know, if you don't mind, is if there is a converter that I can use that will not strip this info out, or can I just use IrfanView to re-convert the RAW images into JPGs straightaway, which will preserve the info, but leave me working to get top quality from JPG files, something I'd rather not do? Any guidance is appreciated. I have the Lightroom beta installed on this machine, but it's so slow and resource-eating as to be unusable. There's always the stuff that came with your camera I batch into tiffs with it using full auto, although you could do them one at a time if you are feeling particularly masochistic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Now that's a neat trick that is going into my How to files Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Doug Brewer wrote: Any guidance is appreciated. Convert the RAW file into a JPEG, without worrying about appearance, using Pentax software. This *will* have the EXIF info, but won't look the way you like. Then create a second version using your previously-described process. This will look the way you want but won't have EXIF. Open the first file in Photoshop 7. Then open the second file in Photoshop. Paste the good-looking file w/o EXIF *onto* the bad-looking file with EXIF and flatten. You'll end up with a file that looks like the good one and contains the EXIF from the first one. You can even add EXIF data to files scanned from film this way :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Click to get kitchen cabinets direct, wholesale prices, special offer http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJmj9MlwGVLm2kwKZl0pzYOG07g/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
Yes, UF Raw will work but I think you also need to install The GIMP (even if you never use it) because UF Raw is basically a plug-in for The GIMP, although you can also run it in stand alone mode. Another possibility is Raw Drop. This also uses the dcraw engine and is about as simple as Raw conversion gets. You just drag the pef or dng across to RAW Drop's interface and it converts it to tiff. You don't get much opportunity to vary conversion parameters though, so you have to do all image processing in Photoshop - but you seem to be already doing that with the Irfanview conversion. http://www.wizards.de/rawdrop/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Doug, So, what I need to know, if you don't mind, is if there is a converter that I can use that will not strip this info out, or can I just use IrfanView to re-convert the RAW images into JPGs straightaway, which will preserve the info, but leave me working to get top quality from JPG files, something I'd rather not do? you can try UFRAW, http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ Basically it's a GUI interface for DCRAW command line software on which a whole lot of the other RAW converters are based, including ACR, Bibble, IrfanView, etc... -- Click to compare save $100's on medical insurance, free quote http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkon1zxd0L60XlzzPziRd89QFq/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
If you can get your hands on a copy of RawShooter Essentials 2006 it will convert to either 8 or 16 bit tif, or jpg and save the EXIF information. If you're using a K10D, I think someone on the list posted a way to massage the RawShooter program file to work on K10 RAW. If you can't find a copy of the original RawShooter I can get one to you. -P Doug Brewer wrote: For some reason, the people who control the money for the City don't think I necessarily have to have the absolute latest Photoshop on my work computer so I can work on my personal photography. hmpf. So anyway, I'm still at PS7 here, and so I have to convert my PEF or DNG shots using a 3rd party converter (IrfanView) to TIFFs before I can PS them into the normal messes I post links to now and again. I have found, during recent searching for material for an upcoming gallery, that the EXIF info for these converted shots are not surviving the conversion. Since the gallery needs the EXIF info, I'm kinda stuck. So, what I need to know, if you don't mind, is if there is a converter that I can use that will not strip this info out, or can I just use IrfanView to re-convert the RAW images into JPGs straightaway, which will preserve the info, but leave me working to get top quality from JPG files, something I'd rather not do? Any guidance is appreciated. I have the Lightroom beta installed on this machine, but it's so slow and resource-eating as to be unusable. Thanks, Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: EXIF info
On Feb 15, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Any guidance is appreciated. Convert the RAW file into a JPEG, without worrying about appearance, using Pentax software. This *will* have the EXIF info, but won't look the way you like. Then create a second version using your previously-described process. This will look the way you want but won't have EXIF. Open the first file in Photoshop 7. Then open the second file in Photoshop. Paste the good-looking file w/o EXIF *onto* the bad-looking file with EXIF and flatten. You'll end up with a file that looks like the good one and contains the EXIF from the first one. You can even add EXIF data to files scanned from film this way :-) Now why didn't I think of this? Doug Brewer http://www.drivingtheflies.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
