Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
I am about to give the 3rd one a try. Let's hope I don't break your record. Now the problem is, this lens is out of stock from B&H. I wonder if that means next year. :( regards, Alan Chan Bad luck? Out of four FA* lenses I've owned, three was faulty right out of the box. I'm now on my third 77 Limited. The first had some dust on the front element; not too bad but it proved it had been out of the box. However, it had some dirt, looked like some dried liquid on the rear element. When I tried to clean it I noticed it was on the inside of the rear element. I sent it back (the Pentax distributor claim the box was never opened by them and I believe it). The next one I had for almost two years and over that time a spot developed between the two back elements, turned out to be erosion of the SMC coating, due to the fact that they collided when focused at infinity. Instead of repairing it, they promptly gave me a new one that has been perfectly fine and is even better optically. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
Did all these lenses you've had problems with come from the same store? 1 from a local retailer, 1 from Pentax Vancouver directly, 2 from B&H. There were some minor quality problems with my other Pentax gears too, but not as bad as this one. Boy, I need to take some drugs. :( regards, Alan Chan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
Think of it this way. If you go to the zoo and want to photograph an animal in its cage but there are bars between you and the animal, what do you do? You open the lens up, put the lens right up to the bars and voila they disappear. Now what you have are microscopic hairs and stuff on your 200mm lens. If the lens makes big bars disappear do you really think a little dust is going to cause a problem? Get out there and use it, don't sweat it. If it was dust, I wouldn't worry about it. But I was talking about the scratches which look like those on automobiles. You know, the millions of scratches after years of car washes. regards, Alan Chan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
I could accept a little dust, but any scratches, cleaning marks, finger prints or similar are totally unacceptable, expecialy on a lense of that price. That said i've owned 2 FA* lenses and the glass has been fine in both, they both did have a little dust in them though. Did all these lenses you've had problems with come from the same store? Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: FA*200/2.8 matter again... > Thanks for everyone whom helped me on the unsmooth focus ring matter few > weeks ago. I received the new lens today from B&H again. Everything seems > fine... except when inspect the glasses through direct torchlight, many tiny > hairline scratches were revealed between the 2nd & 4th elements from the > front (cannot tell which exactly). There seems to have some circular > cleaning marks too. This is the 4th brand new Pentax lens that I have tried > recently and still has problem. > > The previous problems included: > 1st) FA135/2.8 - long piece of lint/dust inside the lens > 2nd) FA135/2.8 - greasy aperture blades > 3rd) FA* 200/2.8 - unsmooth focus ring > 4th) FA* 200/2.8 - many tiny scratches on certain glasses > > Now I am really frustrated. I feel like I must did something terribly wrong > and being punished by some UNKNOWN FORCE. I was wondering if you guys could > check your lenses and shine them with a torch, and see if you have the same > problem. Those tiny scratches were visible only when shined by a torchlight. > I have yet to figure out what to do next. Many thx in advance! :( > > regards, > Alan Chan > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
All quite true points Vic, but for Alan I'd say I would be upset because that's some serious money for a * lens, and would expect it to be absolutely perfect. Again, I'm glad I don't test mind like that, and now don't plan to...don't want to find anything wrong :) Brad - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again... > > In a message dated 11/7/02 4:24:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << There is some dust inside this 200mm, so to the 1st one I returned. > However, > what concerns me is the scratches present behind the 1st element (on 2nd or > 3rd I think). There are many of them in all different directions actually, > not circular. It definitely looks like cleaned by hand. When the light was > pointed from different angle, cleaning marks were revealed too (but totally > invisible if if the light was point directly). This is my only brand new > lens with so many scratches and cleaning marks. My 2ndhand F*300/4.5 has > cleaning marks too, but not scratch. My brand new FA100/2.8 has 1 hairline > scratch inside, but this 200 has a lot. All my other Pentax lenses are fine > even after years of use. Since this is the 4th lens that I have tried > recently (and all 4 are faulty), I think I am ready to give up and ask for a > full refund. I have known there are qc problem with Pentax products for > years, but I have never expected to be so unlucky. Looks like I won't be > buying any Pentax lenses in the near future. :( > > regards, > Alan Chan >> > > Think of it this way. If you go to the zoo and want to photograph an animal > in its cage but there are bars between you and the animal, what do you do? > You open the lens up, put the lens right up to the bars and voila they > disappear. Now what you have are microscopic hairs and stuff on your 200mm > lens. If the lens makes big bars disappear do you really think a little dust > is going to cause a problem? > Get out there and use it, don't sweat it. > Vic >
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
In a message dated 11/7/02 4:24:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << There is some dust inside this 200mm, so to the 1st one I returned. However, what concerns me is the scratches present behind the 1st element (on 2nd or 3rd I think). There are many of them in all different directions actually, not circular. It definitely looks like cleaned by hand. When the light was pointed from different angle, cleaning marks were revealed too (but totally invisible if if the light was point directly). This is my only brand new lens with so many scratches and cleaning marks. My 2ndhand F*300/4.5 has cleaning marks too, but not scratch. My brand new FA100/2.8 has 1 hairline scratch inside, but this 200 has a lot. All my other Pentax lenses are fine even after years of use. Since this is the 4th lens that I have tried recently (and all 4 are faulty), I think I am ready to give up and ask for a full refund. I have known there are qc problem with Pentax products for years, but I have never expected to be so unlucky. Looks like I won't be buying any Pentax lenses in the near future. :( regards, Alan Chan >> Think of it this way. If you go to the zoo and want to photograph an animal in its cage but there are bars between you and the animal, what do you do? You open the lens up, put the lens right up to the bars and voila they disappear. Now what you have are microscopic hairs and stuff on your 200mm lens. If the lens makes big bars disappear do you really think a little dust is going to cause a problem? Get out there and use it, don't sweat it. Vic
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
I just brought the 28-105 Kiron that I bought "marked dusty" to my favourite camera store that does on-site repairs. Showed it to the owner. He checked it out and said not to worry. It was no big deal and would not do anything to the quality of the images. He knows I'm particular about things. There is a fair bit of dust (or whatever) in the lens so your situation is probably absolutely nothing to get upset about. These lenses will pick up dust anyway so I wouldn't worry about it... Vic In a message dated 11/7/02 3:10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I shone a halide desk-lamp through mine both ways, I'm now a little blind I think however I did spy with my working eye heaps of dust boulders and one small hair (which looked like a fungus filament but wasn't). However when I view it under normal light it looks fine (and so do the images that it makes on film). I don't believe that many photo enthusiast spec lenses are delivered completely free from dust even factory fresh (my new APO Leica lenses weren't) however finger prints and wipe marks shouldn't be tolerated. Are all your other lenses much cleaner than this 200? Cheers, Rob Studdert >>
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
I cannot believe such bad luck. I can easily see why you'd give up on them. Now I'm afraid to inspect my lenses that closely and worried about the new FA 20-35mm f/4 AL that is on it's way. Pardon my french Alan but I'd go and tear a Pentax a new a*e over this. FA*..bad Brad - Original Message - From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:28 AM Subject: Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again... > Hi Rob, > > There is some dust inside this 200mm, so to the 1st one I returned. However, > what concerns me is the scratches present behind the 1st element (on 2nd or > 3rd I think). There are many of them in all different directions actually, > not circular. It definitely looks like cleaned by hand. When the light was > pointed from different angle, cleaning marks were revealed too (but totally > invisible if if the light was point directly). This is my only brand new > lens with so many scratches and cleaning marks. My 2ndhand F*300/4.5 has > cleaning marks too, but not scratch. My brand new FA100/2.8 has 1 hairline > scratch inside, but this 200 has a lot. All my other Pentax lenses are fine > even after years of use. Since this is the 4th lens that I have tried > recently (and all 4 are faulty), I think I am ready to give up and ask for a > full refund. I have known there are qc problem with Pentax products for > years, but I have never expected to be so unlucky. Looks like I won't be > buying any Pentax lenses in the near future. :( > > regards, > Alan Chan > > >I shone a halide desk-lamp through mine both ways, I'm now a little blind I > >think however I did spy with my working eye heaps of dust boulders and one > >small hair (which looked like a fungus filament but wasn't). However when I > >view it under normal light it looks fine (and so do the images that it > >makes on > >film). > > > >I don't believe that many photo enthusiast spec lenses are delivered > >completely > >free from dust even factory fresh (my new APO Leica lenses weren't) however > >finger prints and wipe marks shouldn't be tolerated. > > > >Are all your other lenses much cleaner than this 200? > > > >Cheers, > > > >Rob Studdert > > > _ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
Hi Rob, There is some dust inside this 200mm, so to the 1st one I returned. However, what concerns me is the scratches present behind the 1st element (on 2nd or 3rd I think). There are many of them in all different directions actually, not circular. It definitely looks like cleaned by hand. When the light was pointed from different angle, cleaning marks were revealed too (but totally invisible if if the light was point directly). This is my only brand new lens with so many scratches and cleaning marks. My 2ndhand F*300/4.5 has cleaning marks too, but not scratch. My brand new FA100/2.8 has 1 hairline scratch inside, but this 200 has a lot. All my other Pentax lenses are fine even after years of use. Since this is the 4th lens that I have tried recently (and all 4 are faulty), I think I am ready to give up and ask for a full refund. I have known there are qc problem with Pentax products for years, but I have never expected to be so unlucky. Looks like I won't be buying any Pentax lenses in the near future. :( regards, Alan Chan I shone a halide desk-lamp through mine both ways, I'm now a little blind I think however I did spy with my working eye heaps of dust boulders and one small hair (which looked like a fungus filament but wasn't). However when I view it under normal light it looks fine (and so do the images that it makes on film). I don't believe that many photo enthusiast spec lenses are delivered completely free from dust even factory fresh (my new APO Leica lenses weren't) however finger prints and wipe marks shouldn't be tolerated. Are all your other lenses much cleaner than this 200? Cheers, Rob Studdert _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
On 6 Nov 2002 at 22:23, Alan Chan wrote: > Now I am really frustrated. I feel like I must did something terribly wrong and > being punished by some UNKNOWN FORCE. I was wondering if you guys could check > your lenses and shine them with a torch, and see if you have the same problem. > Those tiny scratches were visible only when shined by a torchlight. I have yet > to figure out what to do next. Many thx in advance! :( I shone a halide desk-lamp through mine both ways, I'm now a little blind I think however I did spy with my working eye heaps of dust boulders and one small hair (which looked like a fungus filament but wasn't). However when I view it under normal light it looks fine (and so do the images that it makes on film). I don't believe that many photo enthusiast spec lenses are delivered completely free from dust even factory fresh (my new APO Leica lenses weren't) however finger prints and wipe marks shouldn't be tolerated. Are all your other lenses much cleaner than this 200? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re[2]: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
I don't see anything like that in mine. Bruce Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 11:18:56 PM, you wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Alan Chan [mailto:wlachan@;hotmail.com] >> >> I was wondering >> if you guys could >> check your lenses and shine them with a torch, and see if >> you have the same >> problem. t> Nope. t> tv
Re: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
> Now I am really frustrated. I feel like I must did something terribly wrong > and being punished by some UNKNOWN FORCE. I was wondering if you guys could > regards, > Alan Chan Hey Alan, I've come up against the UNKNOWN FORCE myself. FA 28-70 f/4 AL with a bent aperture blade, waiting 10 years for a CS-130 cable release, waiting 3 months for a Macro Lens, and it looks like another month+ wait for another lens. I hate the UNKNOWN FORCE, and if possible will kill it.
RE: FA*200/2.8 matter again...
> -Original Message- > From: Alan Chan [mailto:wlachan@;hotmail.com] > > I was wondering > if you guys could > check your lenses and shine them with a torch, and see if > you have the same > problem. Nope. tv
