Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-09 Thread Alan Cole

Zos, I was elated to see your image and then along came Bob to ruin my day.

I still routinely use an FA 28-80 and an FA 100-300 (relics from a Z70) on 
my K110D  find them quite adequate.

As you say - they are basically free.

Alan

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A vastly underrated lens...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407940392627714set=a.352070458214708.89021.108166875938402type=1theater

Not bad for basically free. :)
https://www.facebook.com/zosxaviusphotography





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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-09 Thread Zos Xavius
Its the silver plasticky fa 28-80 f3.5-5.6. The kit lens that came with the 
zx-7 i got at goodwill one day for $15. Its certainly not * quality, but it 
does seem better than my 18-55 mk1. In fact it is surprising me stopped down.

 I would love an FA 24-90 actually, but sure don't have 500 or so laying around 
at the moment.

I  tried to respond earlier but forgot I used gmail on my phone. So much for 
supporting standards google!

Alan Cole c...@lantic.net wrote:

Zos, I was elated to see your image and then along came Bob to ruin my
day.

I still routinely use an FA 28-80 and an FA 100-300 (relics from a Z70)
on 
my K110D  find them quite adequate.
As you say - they are basically free.

Alan

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From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 6:06 AM
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Subject: FA 28-80 FTW!

 A vastly underrated lens...


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407940392627714set=a.352070458214708.89021.108166875938402type=1theater

 Not bad for basically free. :)
 https://www.facebook.com/zosxaviusphotography

 


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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-09 Thread Boris Liberman

On 2/9/2013 6:43 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

I would love an FA 24-90 actually, but sure don't have 500 or so
laying around at the moment.


You can find it for about half this figure, Zos. However I should warn 
you that from having two specimens and having not bought one more - this 
is one of the worst lenses Pentax ever made in terms of mechanical 
precision and longevity...


I would recommend either Tamron 28-75/2.8 or Sigma 24-60/2.8. Former can 
be had for less than 400 dollars and the latter for less than 300. Both 
are excellent lenses with very good build quality.


Boris



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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-09 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 10:39:28AM +0200, Alan Cole wrote:
 Zos, I was elated to see your image and then along came Bob to ruin my day.
 
 I still routinely use an FA 28-80 and an FA 100-300 (relics from a
 Z70) on my K110D  find them quite adequate.
 As you say - they are basically free.
 
 Alan

When I bought my PZ-1p in the mid-90s and joined the auto-focus age I
accquired a two-lens kit consisting of the power zoom 28-105  100-300.

Although I got several good shots with it, I was never really happy
with the 100-300, and I eventually ended up getting rid of it. This
was at least partially because I'd been seduced by the lure of good
glass by getting my hands on an A* 200/2.8, so when a chance came
along to buy a used FA* 80-200 I succumbed to temptation. Little did
I know hom much more I'd be giving to the lens dealers over the next
decades ...  The 80-200 is a whole lot heavier than the 100-300, but
even with a 1.4x TC (not Pentax; I wanted to keep autofocus, c.) it
out-performed the 100-300 (not surprising, considering the price...)

After I got a second auto-focus body I did consider getting myself a
FA* 28-70 - I even borrowed one from a friend for one race weekend.
But while that is undoubtedly a nice lens, I didn't find that it was
enough to tempt me to buy one - that FA 28-105 satisifed my needs.

Of the three versions of the Pentax 28-105, the newest (the f/3.2-4.5)
is generally considered to be slightly better than the old f/4.5-f5.6,
with the middle (non-PZ f/4.5-5.6) being the weakest of the bunch.


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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 February 2013 05:04, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can find it for about half this figure, Zos. However I should warn you
 that from having two specimens and having not bought one more - this is one
 of the worst lenses Pentax ever made in terms of mechanical precision and
 longevity...

It's not a particularly strong lens optically either, at the wide end
the old A24/2.8 runs rings around it when comparing distortion,
contrast and resolution. It's not a lens that I would recommend.

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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-09 Thread Boris Liberman

On 2/9/2013 11:25 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 10 February 2013 05:04, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:


You can find it for about half this figure, Zos. However I should warn you
that from having two specimens and having not bought one more - this is one
of the worst lenses Pentax ever made in terms of mechanical precision and
longevity...


It's not a particularly strong lens optically either, at the wide end
the old A24/2.8 runs rings around it when comparing distortion,
contrast and resolution. It's not a lens that I would recommend.


When they would focus I did not have much griped about the ones I used 
to have. Unfortunately, this is the only Pentax lens that covers the 
standard focal lengths (wide to short tele) that both covers full frame 
and goes to 24 mm on the wide end. If 24 mm is mandatory, Sigma 
24-60/2.8 is by far the superior choice, IMHO.





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FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-07 Thread Zos Xavius
A vastly underrated lens...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407940392627714set=a.352070458214708.89021.108166875938402type=1theater

Not bad for basically free. :)
https://www.facebook.com/zosxaviusphotography

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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
The original FA28-80 power zoom with the PZ-1 almost made me give up on zooms.
The FA28-105 is so much better.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 A vastly underrated lens...

 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407940392627714set=a.352070458214708.89021.108166875938402type=1theater

 Not bad for basically free. :)
 https://www.facebook.com/zosxaviusphotography

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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-07 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 The original FA28-80 power zoom with the PZ-1 almost made me give up on zooms.
 The FA28-105 is so much better.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 A vastly underrated lens...

Which 28-105mm, Bob?
The f/4-5.6 or the f/3.2-4.5
Inquiring minds and all that...

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Re: FA 28-80 FTW!

2013-02-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
The FA28-105 f4-5.6 in black with the original power zoom for the PZ-1(p).
It's the heaviest of the 3 FA28-105's but is a hidden treasure.
From time to time, I think of throwing away the FA28-80/3.5-4.7.
It's just a waste of space on my shelf!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 The original FA28-80 power zoom with the PZ-1 almost made me give up on 
 zooms.
 The FA28-105 is so much better.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 A vastly underrated lens...

 Which 28-105mm, Bob?
 The f/4-5.6 or the f/3.2-4.5
 Inquiring minds and all that...

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