Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/22 Thu PM 05:30:16 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> 
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:33:50AM +, mike wilson wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > From: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT
> > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> > > 
> > > Family List?
> > > 
> > > PDML??
> > 
> > Adams family.
> > 
> > Uncle Fester
> 
> That would be "Addams family", then.

I thought, with it being American and all,   
I was using a Slurvian keyboard.
Can't think of any more excuses.



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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[David Savage]

At 09:36 AM 23/03/2007, David J Brooks wrote:
>On 3/22/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dysfunctional Family.
>
>No way can i spell that
>
>Dave

I'm a shockingly bad speller generally, but my spell checker works pretty 
good :-)

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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[David J Brooks]

On 3/22/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dysfunctional Family.

No way can i spell that

Dave
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> At 01:00 PM 22/03/2007, Brian Walters wrote:
> >Family List?
> >
> >PDML??
> >
> >
> >Quoting "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception
> > > was
> > > done through a straw...
> > > (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).
> >
> >Cheers
> >
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

I don't think that Ken would know art if he slapped his face.  Ken stole 
that quiz from someone else..

frank theriault wrote:
> On 3/22/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   
>> If it's in (for instance) an art gallery, I know it's art.  Unless
>> maybe it's just the furniture.
>> 
> 
>
> Wait!
>
> I just reread Ken's art thang, and it turns out that furniture is art!
>
> Well, this certainly simplifies my life, doesn't it?
>
> (OTOH, he's never seen my furniture - he might change his mind about
> furniture being art were he ever in my apartment)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>   


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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[frank theriault]

On 3/22/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If it's in (for instance) an art gallery, I know it's art.  Unless
> maybe it's just the furniture.


Wait!

I just reread Ken's art thang, and it turns out that furniture is art!

Well, this certainly simplifies my life, doesn't it?

(OTOH, he's never seen my furniture - he might change his mind about
furniture being art were he ever in my apartment)

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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[frank theriault]

On 3/21/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link
> labelled "What is Art?" which seems to hold the promise of answering a
> question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries.
>
> Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm
>
> There's even a test at the end.
>
> That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space
> on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments
> and use the money for something useful which advances our culture,
> like management studies or social sciences.
>
> The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour.
> Skip his pages, and go straight to the test:
> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
>
> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand
> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.

My problem with art, is that seeing it on a page doesn't tell me if it's art.

If it's in (for instance) an art gallery, I know it's art.  Unless
maybe it's just the furniture.

Okay, I have to admit once I went into a washroom and got confused -
thought it was a Dada gallery or something.  I spent 1/2 an hour
watching the performace artists, until I realized they were just
pissing...

I took Ken's test, guessed that everything was art, and scored 50%.

I know I've resisted being called an artist in the past, and reading
Ken's little thesis only confirms that I'm on the right track...

cheers,
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[John Francis]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:33:50AM +, mike wilson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > From: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> > 
> > Family List?
> > 
> > PDML??
> 
> Adams family.
> 
> Uncle Fester

That would be "Addams family", then.


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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

Manson family...

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>
>> Family List?
>>
>> PDML??
>> 
>
> Adams family.
>
> Uncle Fester
>
>   
>> Quoting "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> 
>>> He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception
>>> was 
>>> done through a straw...
>>> (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> 
> Family List?
> 
> PDML??

Adams family.

Uncle Fester

> 
> 
> Quoting "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception
> > was 
> > done through a straw...
> > (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 10:47:06 GMT
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> 
> Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of
> credibility does someone have if they can write "Neither Canon nor
> Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers".
> 
> It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in
> the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last
> 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker.
> 
> To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious
> photographers. 
> 
> If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth.
> 
> --
>  Bob

I've known some very nice Gareths.

> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Peter Lacus
> > Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> > 
> > > http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
> > > 
> > > I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't
> understand
> > > that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
> > 
> > I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all 
> > crap in there 
> > anyway.
> > 
> > BTW have you noticed:
> > "Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of 
> > the driving 
> > forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know 
> > what light 
> > meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters.
> > 
> > It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like 
> > this. Neither 
> > Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious 
> > photographers, like 
> > Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format
> SLR 
> > system which still creates images far better technically than 
> > anything 
> > from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 
> > 35mm cameras 
> > or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large 
> > format gear for 
> > serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.)
> > 
> > Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon."
> > 
> > these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell 
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Peter
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Re: RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour.
> Skip his pages, and go straight to the test:
> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
> 
> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand
> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.

15/16

I can't tell the difference between food and art, apparently.  Which explains a 
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[David Savage]

Dysfunctional Family.

Cheers,

Dave

At 01:00 PM 22/03/2007, Brian Walters wrote:
>Family List?
>
>PDML??
>
>
>Quoting "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception
> > was
> > done through a straw...
> > (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).
>
>Cheers
>
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[John Coyle]

I got 13/16, and the urinal (tsk,tsk, Bob) got me too!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:26 AM
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> 
> Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link
> labelled "What is Art?" which seems to hold the promise of answering a
> question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. 
> 
> Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm
> 
> There's even a test at the end.
> 
> That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space
> on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments
> and use the money for something useful which advances our culture,
> like management studies or social sciences.
> 
> The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour.
> Skip his pages, and go straight to the test:
> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
> 
> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand
> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bobasso
> 
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Brian Walters]

Family List?

PDML??


Quoting "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception
> was 
> done through a straw...
> (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).
> 




Cheers

Brian

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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception was 
done through a straw...
(What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).

Bob W wrote:
> Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of
> credibility does someone have if they can write "Neither Canon nor
> Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers".
>
> It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in
> the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last
> 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker.
>
> To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious
> photographers. 
>
> If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth.
>
> --
>  Bob
>
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of Peter Lacus
>> Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>
>> 
>>> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
>>>
>>> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't
>>>   
> understand
>   
>>> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
>>>   
>> I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all 
>> crap in there 
>> anyway.
>>
>> BTW have you noticed:
>> "Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of 
>> the driving 
>> forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know 
>> what light 
>> meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters.
>>
>> It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like 
>> this. Neither 
>> Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious 
>> photographers, like 
>> Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format
>> 
> SLR 
>   
>> system which still creates images far better technically than 
>> anything 
>> from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 
>> 35mm cameras 
>> or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large 
>> format gear for 
>> serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.)
>>
>> Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon."
>>
>> these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell 
>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[David J Brooks]

On 3/21/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of
> credibility does someone have if they can write "Neither Canon nor
> Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers".
>
> It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in
> the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last
> 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker.
>
> To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious
> photographers.
>
> If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth.

You just did

Dave
>
> --
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>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Peter Lacus
> > Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> >
> > > http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
> > >
> > > I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't
> understand
> > > that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
> >
> > I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all
> > crap in there
> > anyway.
> >
> > BTW have you noticed:
> > "Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of
> > the driving
> > forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know
> > what light
> > meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters.
> >
> > It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like
> > this. Neither
> > Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious
> > photographers, like
> > Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format
> SLR
> > system which still creates images far better technically than
> > anything
> > from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly
> > 35mm cameras
> > or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large
> > format gear for
> > serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.)
> >
> > Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon."
> >
> > these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Peter
> >
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RE: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Markus Maurer]

I like the art quiz at http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
greetings
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Peter Lacus]

Bob,

> Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of
> credibility does someone have if they can write "Neither Canon nor
> Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers".

apparently I'm filtering such nonsense stuff automatically at some 
unconscious level. He is often quite right, but I agree, his style is 
not the best possible (yet I haven't found it to be too distracting. 
Which, of course, I can't say about his auto portraits. ;-)).

Cheers,

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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

It's not like Kenny actually came up with the quiz on his own.  It 
figures that the best thing on his web site would pirated from someone else.

Bob W wrote:
>> John Francis wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:24:07AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>>   
 http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm

 
>>> Classic.  The very first link in the introduction says "skip the
>>> examples".  Takes one right to the examples.  Go figure.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the fact that the link says "Skip *TO* the examples"
>>> (my emphasis) might go some way to explain this behaviour ...
>>>   
>> Gah!  Misread it.  Pardon me while I remove my foot from my 
>> mouth.  Again.
>>
>> 
>
> Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link
> labelled "What is Art?" which seems to hold the promise of answering a
> question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. 
>
> Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm
>
> There's even a test at the end.
>
> That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space
> on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments
> and use the money for something useful which advances our culture,
> like management studies or social sciences.
>
> The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour.
> Skip his pages, and go straight to the test:
> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
>
> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand
> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
>
> Cheers,
> Bobasso
>
>
>   


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RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Bob W]

Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of
credibility does someone have if they can write "Neither Canon nor
Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers".

It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in
the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last
60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker.

To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious
photographers. 

If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth.

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> 
> > http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
> > 
> > I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't
understand
> > that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
> 
> I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all 
> crap in there 
> anyway.
> 
> BTW have you noticed:
> "Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of 
> the driving 
> forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know 
> what light 
> meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters.
> 
> It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like 
> this. Neither 
> Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious 
> photographers, like 
> Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format
SLR 
> system which still creates images far better technically than 
> anything 
> from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 
> 35mm cameras 
> or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large 
> format gear for 
> serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.)
> 
> Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon."
> 
> these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell 
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm
> 
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Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Peter Lacus]

> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
> 
> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand
> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.

I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all crap in there 
anyway.

BTW have you noticed:
"Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of the driving 
forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know what light 
meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters.

It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like this. Neither 
Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers, like 
Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format SLR 
system which still creates images far better technically than anything 
from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 35mm cameras 
or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large format gear for 
serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.)

Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon."

these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell 
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm

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RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Bob W]

> John Francis wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:24:07AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
> > > http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm
> > >
> > Classic.  The very first link in the introduction says "skip the
> > examples".  Takes one right to the examples.  Go figure.
> >
> > Perhaps the fact that the link says "Skip *TO* the examples"
> > (my emphasis) might go some way to explain this behaviour ...
> 
> Gah!  Misread it.  Pardon me while I remove my foot from my 
> mouth.  Again.
> 

Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link
labelled "What is Art?" which seems to hold the promise of answering a
question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. 

Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm

There's even a test at the end.

That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space
on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments
and use the money for something useful which advances our culture,
like management studies or social sciences.

The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour.
Skip his pages, and go straight to the test:
http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#

I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand
that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.

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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[frank theriault]

On 3/21/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This was posted over at DPReview:
>
> 
>
> I've still got tears in my eyes.
>
> Cheers,

Wait guys:

At first I thought it was a tribute site, but the more I read, the
more I'm thinking they're actually making fun of him.

That's not very nice...

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OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Scott Loveless]

John Francis wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:24:07AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm
> >
> Classic.  The very first link in the introduction says "skip the
> examples".  Takes one right to the examples.  Go figure.
>
> Perhaps the fact that the link says "Skip *TO* the examples"
> (my emphasis) might go some way to explain this behaviour ...

Gah!  Misread it.  Pardon me while I remove my foot from my mouth.  Again.

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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[graywolf]

You guys are just jealous because Ken's thing is bigger than yours.*

I believe some one once said there is no such thing as a boring 
photographic subject. This thread proves him wrong.

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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 01:24:07 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> 
> On 3/21/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was referring to this
> >
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm
> >
> Classic.  The very first link in the introduction says "skip the
> examples".  Takes one right to the examples.  Go figure.

I think the whole site is the demeted, jealous outpourings of his evil, 
central-European half-sibling Ren Kockwell. 


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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[David J Brooks]

Ken counted to infinity, twice

Dave

On 3/21/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/21/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was referring to this
> >
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm
> >
> Classic.  The very first link in the introduction says "skip the
> examples".  Takes one right to the examples.  Go figure.
>
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Scott Loveless]

On 3/21/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was referring to this
>
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm
>
Classic.  The very first link in the introduction says "skip the
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

I was referring to this

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm

but your's is so much better, err.. worse, err... amusing, err... 
frightening, yes that's it frightening, since Kenny boy actually seem to 
be linked to from at least one reputable photography related web site.  
Scroll down to  PMA 2007 show reports.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/pma2007_index.html

Pity the poor nube who ends up there, especially one with no sense of 
irony or history.

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 01:31:23 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>
>> On a related note, Kenny boy seems to have discovered "camera 
>> settings".  I won't post a link, I'll leave finding it as an exercise 
>> for the student.
>> 
>
> Easy peasy.
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dst.htm
> 8-
>
>   
>> mike wilson wrote:
>> 
>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>>>
>>>> Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my 
>>>> ass laughing. 
>>>>
>>>> My one question. Has anyone sent him a link?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> If anyone does, he'll put it in his "Tributes" section.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> David Savage wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> This was posted over at DPReview:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've still got tears in my eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>   
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

I thought his entire website was a tributes section, to himself.

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>
>> Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my 
>> ass laughing. 
>>
>> My one question. Has anyone sent him a link?
>> 
>
> If anyone does, he'll put it in his "Tributes" section.
>
>   
>> David Savage wrote:
>> 
>>> This was posted over at DPReview:
>>>
>>> <http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts>
>>>
>>> I've still got tears in my eyes.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 01:31:23 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> 
> On a related note, Kenny boy seems to have discovered "camera 
> settings".  I won't post a link, I'll leave finding it as an exercise 
> for the student.

Easy peasy.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dst.htm
8-

> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> >>
> >> Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my 
> >> ass laughing. 
> >>
> >> My one question. Has anyone sent him a link?
> >> 
> >
> > If anyone does, he'll put it in his "Tributes" section.
> >
> >   
> >> David Savage wrote:
> >> 
> >>> This was posted over at DPReview:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts>
> >>>
> >>> I've still got tears in my eyes.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>   
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

On a related note, Kenny boy seems to have discovered "camera 
settings".  I won't post a link, I'll leave finding it as an exercise 
for the student.

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>
>> Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my 
>> ass laughing. 
>>
>> My one question. Has anyone sent him a link?
>> 
>
> If anyone does, he'll put it in his "Tributes" section.
>
>   
>> David Savage wrote:
>> 
>>> This was posted over at DPReview:
>>>
>>> <http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts>
>>>
>>> I've still got tears in my eyes.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>   
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
> 
> Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my 
> ass laughing. 
> 
> My one question. Has anyone sent him a link?

If anyone does, he'll put it in his "Tributes" section.

> 
> David Savage wrote:
> > This was posted over at DPReview:
> >
> > <http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts>
> >
> > I've still got tears in my eyes.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >   
> 
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Dario Bonazza]

Boris Liberman wrote:

>I thought Chuck Norris was pretty good at karate...

Nobody's perfect, but Ken Rockwell.

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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Boris Liberman]

I thought Chuck Norris was pretty good at karate...

But boy, this is really good.

Thanks, Dave!

David Savage wrote:
> This was posted over at DPReview:
> 
> 
> 
> I've still got tears in my eyes.
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[ann sanfedele]

Scott Loveless wrote:

>Thanks for the laughs.  This one is my favorite:  "Ken Rockwell
>ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one."
>
I particularly like
"Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you"

Partly because there was a craigslist "wanted" listing for someone who 
wanted
a photographer to take his self-portrait - I swear...  send Ken right over

ann

>
>On 3/21/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>This was posted over at DPReview:
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>>
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>>I've still got tears in my eyes.
>>
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[P. J. Alling]

Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my 
ass laughing. 

My one question. Has anyone sent him a link?

David Savage wrote:
> This was posted over at DPReview:
>
> 
>
> I've still got tears in my eyes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Mike Hamilton]

On 3/20/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This was posted over at DPReview:
>
> 
>
> I've still got tears in my eyes.

That's the best thing I've read all week.

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Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[Scott Loveless]

Thanks for the laughs.  This one is my favorite:  "Ken Rockwell
ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one."

On 3/21/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This was posted over at DPReview:
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OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer

[David Savage]

This was posted over at DPReview:



I've still got tears in my eyes.

Cheers,

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