RE: Pentax in Detroit, was: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-26 Thread William D. Sawyer

Mike,

Try:

Oakland Camera Repair
30575 Dequindre
Madison Hts, MI  48071
(248) 588-1151

That's at 13 Mile Rd.  Dequindre.

Bill Sawyer
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Hi Detroiters (and everybody else), Where is a good
place to take Pentax equipment for servicing (like
CLA). The only shop I'm familiar with is Camera Mart,
and I'm not sure they do service work (never asked!).
Thanks!  Mike Steele
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Re: Pentax in Detroit, was: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-26 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

In the Detroit area he best choice is Oakland Photographic Repair. You
can find there number through directory assistance or in the phone book.
They're in a strip mall just south of 13 Mile on Dequindre. I believe
the town is Warren. They've CLAed all my Spotmatics and disassembled and
cleaned a lens for me. They don't work on LX, but they will work on any
other Pentax camera. I've been very pleased with their work.
Paul

Mike Steele wrote:
 
 Hi Detroiters (and everybody else), Where is a good
 place to take Pentax equipment for servicing (like
 CLA). The only shop I'm familiar with is Camera Mart,
 and I'm not sure they do service work (never asked!).
 Thanks!  Mike Steele
 
 --- PAUL STENQUIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Bill,
  Adray Camera on Big Beaver near Dequindre has a fair
  selection of Pentax
  stuff. The guy at the counter told me they're going
  to get the MZ-S. I
  keep asking for it in stores and act surprised and
  dismayed when they
  say they don't have one. I'm not going to buy one,
  but I do enjoy
  tweaking our local dealers a bit.
  Paul
 
  William D. Sawyer wrote:
  
   Hi Paul,
  
   I know Woodward Camera well - I bought a new ME
  Super (black body) from them in 1981, when Pentax
  was their largest line. If you talk to their people
  who have been around since then, they are hard
  pressed to say anything good about Pentax Marketing.
   To use their phrase, Pentax Gave Away their
  market share.
  
   My A 35mm f2 came from another camera shop
  across town, and I paid $80 for it.  While that may
  reflect the condition of the lens (cosmetically, the
  only thing wrong is a missing nib), more likely,
  it reflects the absence of a market for Pentax
  equipment in the Detroit area.  I was in Camera Mart
  today, the largest camera store here, and the best
  Pentax 35mm body they had was a ZX-7, and no lenses.
   I'm told the local Pentax rep is domiciled in
  Cleveland, and services a seven state area. Aggod
  deal for buying used, I guess, but not for anything
  new.
  
   I didn't dare ask about an MZ-S.  Sad.
  
   Bill Sawyer
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  PAUL STENQUIST
   Sent: October 23, 2001 10:46 PM
  
   BTW, I bought it from Woodward Camera,
   which Bill would know to be a rather expensive
  place to shop. However,
   they had marked it wrong, and I got it for $90.
  That makes up for all
   the times they ripped me off.
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Re: Pentax in Detroit, was: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-26 Thread Kenneth Waller

I've had good results with Midwest Camera Repair, 313 Oak Street, Wyandotte,
Mi. 48192. Phone (313) 285-2220. Although lately I've been using Pentax in
Colorado.
Ken Waller
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From: Mike Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax in Detroit, was: Fast 35mm Lenses


 Hi Detroiters (and everybody else), Where is a good
 place to take Pentax equipment for servicing (like
 CLA). The only shop I'm familiar with is Camera Mart,
 and I'm not sure they do service work (never asked!).
 Thanks!  Mike Steele

 --- PAUL STENQUIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Bill,
  Adray Camera on Big Beaver near Dequindre has a fair
  selection of Pentax
  stuff. The guy at the counter told me they're going
  to get the MZ-S. I
  keep asking for it in stores and act surprised and
  dismayed when they
  say they don't have one. I'm not going to buy one,
  but I do enjoy
  tweaking our local dealers a bit.
  Paul
 
  William D. Sawyer wrote:
  
   Hi Paul,
  
   I know Woodward Camera well - I bought a new ME
  Super (black body) from them in 1981, when Pentax
  was their largest line. If you talk to their people
  who have been around since then, they are hard
  pressed to say anything good about Pentax Marketing.
   To use their phrase, Pentax Gave Away their
  market share.
  
   My A 35mm f2 came from another camera shop
  across town, and I paid $80 for it.  While that may
  reflect the condition of the lens (cosmetically, the
  only thing wrong is a missing nib), more likely,
  it reflects the absence of a market for Pentax
  equipment in the Detroit area.  I was in Camera Mart
  today, the largest camera store here, and the best
  Pentax 35mm body they had was a ZX-7, and no lenses.
   I'm told the local Pentax rep is domiciled in
  Cleveland, and services a seven state area. Aggod
  deal for buying used, I guess, but not for anything
  new.
  
   I didn't dare ask about an MZ-S.  Sad.
  
   Bill Sawyer
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  PAUL STENQUIST
   Sent: October 23, 2001 10:46 PM
  
   BTW, I bought it from Woodward Camera,
   which Bill would know to be a rather expensive
  place to shop. However,
   they had marked it wrong, and I got it for $90.
  That makes up for all
   the times they ripped me off.
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Re: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-25 Thread Doug Brewer

This came to me, meant for the list.

FWIW, I absolutely disagree with Frantisek's description of thens. I've had one since 
they came out, and have never had any trouble manually focusing with it.

Doug



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fast 35mm Lenses
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:37:16 +0200
Thread-Index: AcFdOKIbuRC4NLMhQdeq5Wr8Y4DiDg==
Status:   

I wonder, I tried the FA AL 35/2, and the bayonett hood was too near the focusing 
ring to permit manual focusing... which is a pity. Is the lens with hood then AF 
only???

Bad design, again...

Frantisek

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RE: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-25 Thread Erik Nordin

Me neither, only that it seems to require some (warranty) adjustments to
enable focusing on subjects very far away... I actually think the focusing
ring is a very good compromise between AF speed and manual feel. For me it's
definitely wide enough to be comfortable to handle.

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From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 25 oktober 2001 13:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fast 35mm Lenses


This came to me, meant for the list.

FWIW, I absolutely disagree with Frantisek's description of thens. I've had
one since they came out, and have never had any trouble manually focusing
with it.

Doug



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fast 35mm Lenses
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:37:16 +0200
Thread-Index: AcFdOKIbuRC4NLMhQdeq5Wr8Y4DiDg==
Status:   

I wonder, I tried the FA AL 35/2, and the bayonett hood was too near the
focusing ring to permit manual focusing... which is a pity. Is the lens with
hood then AF only???

Bad design, again...

Frantisek

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Ashwood Lake Photography
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RE: Pentax in Detroit, was: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-25 Thread William D. Sawyer

Hi Paul,

I know Woodward Camera well - I bought a new ME Super (black body) from them in 1981, 
when Pentax was their largest line. If you talk to their people who have been around 
since then, they are hard pressed to say anything good about Pentax Marketing.  To use 
their phrase, Pentax Gave Away their market share.

My A 35mm f2 came from another camera shop across town, and I paid $80 for it.  
While that may reflect the condition of the lens (cosmetically, the only thing wrong 
is a missing nib), more likely, it reflects the absence of a market for Pentax 
equipment in the Detroit area.  I was in Camera Mart today, the largest camera store 
here, and the best Pentax 35mm body they had was a ZX-7, and no lenses.  I'm told the 
local Pentax rep is domiciled in Cleveland, and services a seven state area. Aggod 
deal for buying used, I guess, but not for anything new.

I didn't dare ask about an MZ-S.  Sad.

Bill Sawyer
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL STENQUIST
Sent: October 23, 2001 10:46 PM
 
BTW, I bought it from Woodward Camera,
which Bill would know to be a rather expensive place to shop. However,
they had marked it wrong, and I got it for $90. That makes up for all
the times they ripped me off.
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Re: Pentax in Detroit, was: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-25 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

Hi Bill,
Adray Camera on Big Beaver near Dequindre has a fair selection of Pentax
stuff. The guy at the counter told me they're going to get the MZ-S. I
keep asking for it in stores and act surprised and dismayed when they
say they don't have one. I'm not going to buy one, but I do enjoy
tweaking our local dealers a bit.
Paul

William D. Sawyer wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 
 I know Woodward Camera well - I bought a new ME Super (black body) from them in 
1981, when Pentax was their largest line. If you talk to their people who have been 
around since then, they are hard pressed to say anything good about Pentax Marketing. 
 To use their phrase, Pentax Gave Away their market share.
 
 My A 35mm f2 came from another camera shop across town, and I paid $80 for it.  
While that may reflect the condition of the lens (cosmetically, the only thing wrong 
is a missing nib), more likely, it reflects the absence of a market for Pentax 
equipment in the Detroit area.  I was in Camera Mart today, the largest camera store 
here, and the best Pentax 35mm body they had was a ZX-7, and no lenses.  I'm told the 
local Pentax rep is domiciled in Cleveland, and services a seven state area. Aggod 
deal for buying used, I guess, but not for anything new.
 
 I didn't dare ask about an MZ-S.  Sad.
 
 Bill Sawyer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL STENQUIST
 Sent: October 23, 2001 10:46 PM
 
 BTW, I bought it from Woodward Camera,
 which Bill would know to be a rather expensive place to shop. However,
 they had marked it wrong, and I got it for $90. That makes up for all
 the times they ripped me off.
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Re: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-24 Thread tom

Bob Rapp wrote:
 
 From my experience, the K35 f2.0 is sharper than the M/A f2s. The K3.5 is
 the sharpest of the manual focus lenses and the auto focus FA 35 f2.0 AL is
 reported to knock that marvellous lens over.

The FA is very nice in my limited experience of it.

I had an M 35/2 for a while which I loved. Colors were a bit muted, but
b+w was fantastic.

tv
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Re: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-24 Thread Sas Gabor

Hi,

On 24 Oct 2001 at 9:22, tom wrote:
 I had an M 35/2 for a while which I loved. Colors were a bit muted,
 but b+w was fantastic.

Could you describe these muted colors in detail?
I haven't noticed anything like this so far with M lenses...
(Just bought the M2/35.)


Gabor
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Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-23 Thread William D. Sawyer

35mm is my favorite focal length for general photography.  I like the perspective 
better than a Normal lens. I also like the speed of an f2 version, as it allows me 
to shoot in many of the spots walking around lands me in.

I currently have the A version of the 35mm f2, which I got at a very good price. I'm 
VERY disappointed in it's performance, as evidenced by a series of shots I recently 
took of some old buildings with very weathered wood.  The grain in the wood simply is 
not sharp.  It was shot with XP-2 rated at 400 in daylight, so the lens was well 
stopped down, probably in the f8-f16 range. I was using a Super Program, motordriven, 
on a monopod. Likely shutter speeds in the 1/60-1/250 range. 

Maybe mine is a bad sample, but I am thinking of spending the money to get the new AF 
version, which has gotten good reviews here on the list from people whose opinions I 
always respect.

My question for the list, is whether anyone has ever compared the M/A' versions with 
the AF one. I'm not interested in the f3.5 version, which is considered quite sharp, 
and I do prefer autofocus because of my deteriorating-with-age eyesight. Is the new 
lens appreciably superior to the older model?  $300 worth?


Thanks to all who take the time to reply.

Bill Sawyer
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RE: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-23 Thread Bob Rapp

From my experience, the K35 f2.0 is sharper than the M/A f2s. The K3.5 is
the sharpest of the manual focus lenses and the auto focus FA 35 f2.0 AL is
reported to knock that marvellous lens over.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: William D. Sawyer


35mm is my favorite focal length for general photography.  I like the
perspective better than a Normal lens. I also like the speed of an f2
version, as it allows me to shoot in many of the spots walking around
lands me in.

I currently have the A version of the 35mm f2, which I got at a very good
price. I'm VERY disappointed in it's performance, as evidenced by a series
of shots I recently took of some old buildings with very weathered wood.
The grain in the wood simply is not sharp.  It was shot with XP-2 rated at
400 in daylight, so the lens was well stopped down, probably in the f8-f16
range. I was using a Super Program, motordriven, on a monopod. Likely
shutter speeds in the 1/60-1/250 range.
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Re: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Bill 

On the basis of what you've described, I'd say there may be a lot more
to the sharpness issue than meets the eye.  May I suggest that you
actually test the ~lens~ by removing the motor drive, mounting the
camera on a substantial and well secured tripod, and by using a
fine-grained slide film.  Also, test the lens at various ~known~
apertures and shutter speeds.  Further, since you're concerned about not
being able to focus with those old, tired eyes of yours g, use a
focusing aid, such aa a refconverter set on 2X magnification, or the
magnifier M.  Also, the use of a cable release or the self timer will
minimize any vibration or shake that may contribute to a lack of
sharpness.

FWIW, some time ago while photographing a piece of sculpture, with the
LX on a tripod, etc., I used a refconverter to focus.  It was set to
normal magnification in order to insure proper framing.  I was very
careful to focus precisely.  When I flipped to 2X magnification I could
see that the focusing could be improved still further.  It should be
noted that I was quite close to the subject, and DOF was minimal (I was
using a fast lens - 1.8 or so).  If you were close to the wood, you
might be running into a problem with DOF, too.

If you were shooting at F16.0, you may have also lost a little sharpness
due to diffraction.  While DOF increases at smaller apertures, sharpness
and detail may sometimes suffer.

So, unless you really ~want~ an AF lens, take some time to carefully
explore the potential of the lens you have.  That said, the 35mm K
lenses are sometimes much preferred to the M and A series lenses by many
people.

William D. Sawyer wrote:

 I currently have the A version of the 35mm f2, 
 which I got at a very good price. I'm VERY disappointed 
 in it's performance, as evidenced by a series of shots 
 I recently took of some old buildings with very weathered 
 wood.  The grain in the wood simply is not sharp.  It 
 was shot with XP-2 rated at 400 in daylight, so the 
 lens was well stopped down, probably in the f8-f16 range. 
 I was using a Super Program, motordriven, on a monopod. 
 Likely shutter speeds in the 1/60-1/250 range.
 
 Maybe mine is a bad sample, but I am thinking of 
 spending the money to get the new AF version, 
 which has gotten good reviews here on the list 
 from people whose opinions I always respect.
 
 My question for the list, is whether anyone has ever 
 compared the M/A' versions with the AF one. I'm not 
 interested in the f3.5 version, which is considered 
 quite sharp, and I do prefer autofocus because of my 
 deteriorating-with-age eyesight. Is the new lens 
 appreciably superior to the older model?  $300 worth?

-- 
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Re: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

I think Doug Brewer either has or *wants* the FA 35/2.0 AL
Either way, I know he's used it and is very impressed.

Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From my experience, the K35 f2.0 is sharper than the M/A f2s. The K3.5 is
the sharpest of the manual focus lenses and the auto focus FA 35 f2.0 AL is
reported to knock that marvellous lens over.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: William D. Sawyer


35mm is my favorite focal length for general photography.  I like the
perspective better than a Normal lens. I also like the speed of an f2
version, as it allows me to shoot in many of the spots walking around
lands me in.

I currently have the A version of the 35mm f2, which I got at a very good
price. I'm VERY disappointed in it's performance, as evidenced by a series
of shots I recently took of some old buildings with very weathered wood.
The grain in the wood simply is not sharp.  It was shot with XP-2 rated at
400 in daylight, so the lens was well stopped down, probably in the f8-f16
range. I was using a Super Program, motordriven, on a monopod. Likely
shutter speeds in the 1/60-1/250 range.


-- 
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