Pentax nowhere? (WAS: RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out)
Ed wrote There is no MZ-S anywhere in Baltimore - I called every dealer. I managed to find one in DC on Tuesday, at the largest Pentax dealer in the DC area. They had one. None of the salespeople had ever even heard of it, and they could not find it for about 5 minutes, because it was still in the back in it's box, as they had never even opened it to put it on display. Nobody knew anything about it. I mounted my 77 to it, and two of the salespeople looked at the lens. One said, What the heck is that? They had never heard of the limited lenses. Pretty weird. I'm now in Oslo. I've seen the MZ-S with battery grip in two different shops. Note that those are the only shops I've visited - there could be more. One of them had all three Limited lenses on display, the FA* 85/1.4, FA* 400/5.6, FA* 24/2, FA 50/2.8 Macro + a considerable number of Pentax consumer zooms. I also noted that the MZ-S at least looks better built than anything else except the F5. The Dynax9 and EOS-1v, which stood on the shelves right beside it looked more plasticky, in spite of being metal, and overall cheaper and less well finished regarding both surface finish and shutline management (that is the lines between body panels, and for the Dynaxx9, the gap between the flash and the body). Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
They have one the RD-3000. 2.7 MP and can use every lens in the lineup except the 400mm prime. All are zooms except for a 50mm Macro lens. SCSI interface and has some improvements over the 35mm based RD-175. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out Doesn't Minolta have two or three digitals based on their APS SLRs? In some ways that seems the more sensible way to go. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure agree with you Mark. Now the real question, are Pentax marketing droids as smart as you and I? I think they'd have to be blind and deaf not to see the writing on the wall and hear the fat lady, well, warming up, at least. By next year, lack of a digital camera to convince the public of the Pentax line's long-term viability will start to hurt sales of the MZ-S. It may be hurting sales already. I probably wouldn't have committed myself to Pentax's lens line to the extent I have this past year if I hand't thought my gear would be compatible with an upcoming digital body. I certainly wouldn't have spent a thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am, by the way; I'm just being cautious.) 2002 will be the crunch year. Any camera manufacturer without a digital body for it's 35mm lens line will be getting out of the 35mm SLR business whether they want to or not. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Minolta. I haven't heard anything about them producing a digital body for their system. Will they be content with point-and-shoot film cameras and high-end all-in-one digicams? Might not be a bad way to go from a profit standpoint. But because of this uncertainty, right now I wouldn't even *think* of buying a high-end Minolta body unless I already had a huge investment in Minolta lenses. Even then, I'd think very hard first. I think the main market for the Contax digital SLR isn't people just getting into a high end 35mm system or even the people who already have the Contax N1: I'll bet it's the professionals now working with the Contax 645. It's a relatively inexpensive (compared to a medium format digital back!) way for them to add digital to their repertoir because it will accept all the Contax 645 lenses they already own. - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is also why Pentax needs the digital SLR fast. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax nowhere? (WAS: RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out)
Pal, in north America they are all about the glitz and glamour, the latest hi tech. I had a hard time finding a 50mm lens new or used in Toronto, it's next to impossible to get a decent prime telephoto either. If it doesn't have a nikon or canon logo on it they rarely know about it. --- Pål Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed wrote There is no MZ-S anywhere in Baltimore - I called every dealer. I managed to find one in DC on Tuesday, at the largest Pentax dealer in the DC area. They had one. None of the salespeople had ever even heard of it, and they could not find it for about 5 minutes, because it was still in the back in it's box, as they had never even opened it to put it on display. Nobody knew anything about it. I mounted my 77 to it, and two of the salespeople looked at the lens. One said, What the heck is that? They had never heard of the limited lenses. Pretty weird. I'm now in Oslo. I've seen the MZ-S with battery grip in two different shops. Note that those are the only shops I've visited - there could be more. One of them had all three Limited lenses on display, the FA* 85/1.4, FA* 400/5.6, FA* 24/2, FA 50/2.8 Macro + a considerable number of Pentax consumer zooms. I also noted that the MZ-S at least looks better built than anything else except the F5. The Dynax9 and EOS-1v, which stood on the shelves right beside it looked more plasticky, in spite of being metal, and overall cheaper and less well finished regarding both surface finish and shutline management (that is the lines between body panels, and for the Dynaxx9, the gap between the flash and the body). Pål - ___ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:12:44 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: I certainly wouldn't have spent a thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am, by the way; I'm just being cautious.) I feel exactly the same, I was planning on buying the 3-lens limited set (31, 43 and 77) for my MZ-3 / PZ1 / LX, and waiting for the MZ-D to use them on later. I will certainly wait for a formal announcement of a new Pentax Digital SLR now! I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4. If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D, I will get one for sure ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:12:44 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: I certainly wouldn't have spent a thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am, by the way; I'm just being cautious.) I feel exactly the same, I was planning on buying the 3-lens limited set (31, 43 and 77) for my MZ-3 / PZ1 / LX, and waiting for the MZ-D to use them on later. I will certainly wait for a formal announcement of a new Pentax Digital SLR now! I'm sure we're not the only ones who have deferred purchases until the situation is clarified. I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4. If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D, I will get one for sure ... I won't buy one until full-frame version is available, but the release of any digital SLR - even with a smaller-than-full-frame CCD - would give me enough confidence to resume buying Pentax gear in general (a 15mm would be first on my list: I would have killed for one today!) What's interesting is that within two or three years we'll see people just getting into photography (just getting serious about it, anyway) *starting out* with a digital SLR, having moved up from an all-in-one digicam. Then later, when they consider *film* (it'll happen eventually!), they'll look for a film camera that's compatible with the lenses they already have for their digital. Just the opposite of the situation we have now. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Mark Roberts wrote: I'm sure we're not the only ones who have deferred purchases until the situation is clarified. I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4. If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D, I will get one for sure ... I haven't deferred any purchases because of that. In fact, I bought the MZ-S after Pentax announce they had axed the MZ-D project. and if I can afford a Limited 31 mm. in the near future, I'll buy it. My digital needs are covered by a Minolta film scanner a modest flatbed scanner, an Artec AS6E. I would only consider a digital SLR if it were full frame, and when it is in my price bracket. I know that both things won't happen in the near future, but I am not in a hurry. I would add to the conditions i've said before, a decent image quality and of course, a K-mount that accepts all my lenses. 6 Mpixels is not enough in my opinion. I understand that PJs and some other people may need the kind of digital SLR's we see in the market now, and then some people also feel the urge to keep pace with the latest technology only for the sake of it, but in my case I still feel that my film cameras are much better than those expensive toys. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:49:22PM +1300, David A. Mann wrote: Plus, unlike the Nikon/Canon behemoths they've actually made it look quite compact. Maybe the pictures just shows it with a very big lens -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student. LFCS, Div. of Informatics, Uni. of Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. Tel: +44 131 6505185. Fax: +44 131 6677209. Office: 1603, JCMB, KB. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Francis Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:49:22PM +1300, David A. Mann wrote: Plus, unlike the Nikon/Canon behemoths they've actually made it look quite compact. Maybe the pictures just shows it with a very big lens I think all the AF Contax lenses are pretty huge, aren't they? BTW: When I first heard that this camera was to be available in February I thought -- just for a moment -- mybe... But then I thought about lenses. Not the quality, just the selection or lack thereof. Not only are the lenses for the Contax very expensive, there are very few to choose from. Perhaps there'll be some 3rd party lenses available in Contax mount after this camera hits the market? (If this camera doesn't do it nothing will!) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
On 16 Nov 2001, at 13:02, Rob Brigham wrote: Surely you wouldnt market a camera when you could not get the parts anymore even before it is launched? This would be commercial suicide: Sounds about right, this is the company that released a new camera sporting a new lens mount (completely incompatible with the existing C/Y mount which will no longer be supported) along with only a few new lenses and no firm dates for delivery of future lenses. :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Plus, unlike the Nikon/Canon behemoths they've actually made it look quite compact. Maybe the pictures just shows it with a very big lens The Contax N1 is *HUGE*. Even the 50mm AF lens is larger than any other 50/1.4 ever made, or close. The 24-85 (pictured on the dpreview.com site) is also very large. The N1 is quite the opposite of a compact camera. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
If they make it a 4 or 5MP SLR, they'll get my attention. And having my lenses all get a little longer won't make me hesitate a bit, either. :) Len --- - Original Message - From: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM Subject: RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out I doubt that with Contax saying they are only producing 1000/month of the cameras that there will be any shortage of the Phillips IC. A production of only 1000/month will easily sustain the $6500 price of the camera for the foreseeable future. If Pentax has elected to build a 3-5 MP SLR in the $1500-3000 range it will sell in much higher quantities than the Contax by at least one order of magnitude. Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure agree with you Mark. Now the real question, are Pentax marketing droids as smart as you and I? I think they'd have to be blind and deaf not to see the writing on the wall and hear the fat lady, well, warming up, at least. By next year, lack of a digital camera to convince the public of the Pentax line's long-term viability will start to hurt sales of the MZ-S. It may be hurting sales already. I probably wouldn't have committed myself to Pentax's lens line to the extent I have this past year if I hand't thought my gear would be compatible with an upcoming digital body. I certainly wouldn't have spent a thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am, by the way; I'm just being cautious.) 2002 will be the crunch year. Any camera manufacturer without a digital body for it's 35mm lens line will be getting out of the 35mm SLR business whether they want to or not. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Minolta. I haven't heard anything about them producing a digital body for their system. Will they be content with point-and-shoot film cameras and high-end all-in-one digicams? Might not be a bad way to go from a profit standpoint. But because of this uncertainty, right now I wouldn't even *think* of buying a high-end Minolta body unless I already had a huge investment in Minolta lenses. Even then, I'd think very hard first. I think the main market for the Contax digital SLR isn't people just getting into a high end 35mm system or even the people who already have the Contax N1: I'll bet it's the professionals now working with the Contax 645. It's a relatively inexpensive (compared to a medium format digital back!) way for them to add digital to their repertoir because it will accept all the Contax 645 lenses they already own. - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is also why Pentax needs the digital SLR fast. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Yes, that's wild speculation. But it's more realistic sounding than *any* other scenarios I've heard ;-) Time to wait and see. Kristian Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip wild-speculation It's possible that Contax are doing what Apple did when they launched the PowerMac G4 desktop in September 1999: basically, Apple didn't have an agreed supply of G4 processors for the computer, and their main supplier, Motorola, couldn't guarantee adequate yields until January 2000. Apple, not wanting to lose sales in their busiest quarter, decided to use the couple of thousand validation samples they had got from Motorola previously, and use them to build machines. When these dried up, it was very difficult to get a G4 Mac until Motorola came up with the goods on schedule the following January (Apple, of course, blamed Moto for delivering late when in fact they were a couple of weeks early, but that's Steve Jobs for you...). If you assume that Philips are at the very best deferring the volume manufacture of the 6Mp chip until late 2002, and if you compare the kind of volume that Contax will be shipping next year compared with what Pentax would be expecting, it's obvious that of the two companies, only the low-volume, premium-price manufacturer (Contax) could get away with building a few hundred units with pre-production samples, and charging more for the camera to keep demand down. If the N-1 uses the new Contax lens mount, then the pent-up demand is going to be low enough anyway, unlike the deluge that would descend on a K-mount digital SLR. Who knows, maybe Pentax made a few quid by selling their initial stock of the chips to Kyocera...? I think we'll see a 4-5Mp reduced-frame SLR from Pentax early next year using most of the parts from the MZ-D, and then the real deal by mid-2003, most likely at higher resolution, considering Moore's Law. /wild-speculation Total value : EUR 0.02 ;-) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Mark wrote: snip 2002 will be the crunch year. Any camera manufacturer without a digital body for it's 35mm lens line will be getting out of the 35mm SLR business whether they want to or not. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Minolta. I haven't heard anything about them producing a digital body for their system. Will they be content with point-and-shoot film cameras and high-end all-in-one digicams? Might not be a bad way to go from a profit standpoint. But because of this uncertainty, right now I wouldn't even *think* of buying a high-end Minolta body unless I already had a huge investment in Minolta lenses. Even then, I'd think very hard first. snip Curious why you think next year. I don't think Pentax will do it by then, just a gut feeling. I'm not sure I'm ready to jump on the digital ship at the 6-mp level deck anyway. From conversations way back, 30-mp is the resolution crossover point where digital comes close to film resolution-wise. I know it doesn't make a heck of a lot of difference if 4x6 is all one wants. At a raw image size of 30 mp, I'd hate to the kind of memory and disk space one would need to blow the thing up,at home. Look for this to happen... (Tom predicts the future). Why should/would most camera manufacturers care if we can use our existing 35mm lenses with digicams? If film is going by the wayside like a greased-pig on a ski-slope, and we either can't get it, can't get it processed, or are just being bowled over by the digital tsunami, the thing for them to do is come out with all new cameras, all new lens mounts, all new lenses and sell everything anew, not just bodies. This compatibility thing could just be for the short-term to get everyone to buy in. Once film is dead in the coffin, the whole picture changes. Tom C. (always looking for the bright side) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel Philips CCD. See: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
And at $6500 US! This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D. Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the sensor is obviously available, and it can be done for the money that was rumoured. Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! -Original Message- From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2001 13:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel Philips CCD. See: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Rob Brigham wrote: And at $6500 US! Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! What's new? :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Although I'll never buy one I like the looks, sort of like a digital Maxxum 9. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel Philips CCD. See: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Hi, The way I read the article, the camera is not yet out but will be available in February. Let's see if it actually hits the stores and will find its way into the hands of consumers. Mike Johnston wrote: The Contax N1 is finally out, using the full-frame 24x36mm 6-megapixel Philips CCD. See: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0111/0501contaxn1digital.asp -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
On 15 Nov 2001, at 14:19, Rob Brigham wrote: And at $6500 US! This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D. Hi Rob, Pentax never made claims about the price, the figure that was floating about was a speculated price only based on the cost of one off CCD purchase that was printed in one of the French photo magazines. Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the sensor is obviously available, and it can be done for the money that was rumoured. The CCD has been confirmed to be unavailable as per Mark Roberts reports to the list, the information is straight from Philips AFAIK. Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! This you can shout from the roof tops as soon as the Contax Digital hits the streets, but it ain't there yet. And I would guess if it even does get there then they are building using pre-purchased CCD stock (hence limited numbers) or some component that we know nothing of? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
TO BAD IT DOES NOT ACCEPT PENTAX GLASS BOB RAPP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out On 15 Nov 2001, at 14:19, Rob Brigham wrote: And at $6500 US! This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D. Hi Rob, Pentax never made claims about the price, the figure that was floating about was a speculated price only based on the cost of one off CCD purchase that was printed in one of the French photo magazines. Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the sensor is obviously available, and it can be done for the money that was rumoured. The CCD has been confirmed to be unavailable as per Mark Roberts reports to the list, the information is straight from Philips AFAIK. Thanks for nothing Pentax - you have now officially MISSED THE BOAT!!! This you can shout from the roof tops as soon as the Contax Digital hits the streets, but it ain't there yet. And I would guess if it even does get there then they are building using pre-purchased CCD stock (hence limited numbers) or some component that we know nothing of? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
