Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
Hi, TM wrote: I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400 dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. I think this is a generic Canon fault. My Canoscan film scanner is the same, as are others I have seen. If (when) I upgrade or it dies permanently, I will not be buying another Canon. mike
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
I find my epson works great for 35mm at 2400 ppi but its S L O W ... (10 minutes for a 35mm color neg 2400 ppi) JCO
Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
- Original Message - From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:47 AM Subject: Flatbed scanners for 35mm Anyone here use a flatbed other than the Epson 2450 for 35mm negatives? I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400 dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. Since my primefilm died again, I've switched to an epson perfection 1250 with the film adapter. It works for now, until I come up with the money for another dedicated film scanner (this time one with a SANE interface)... my 0.02 Mike Y
Flatbed scanners for 35mm
IMHO - I gotta put in my vote for an inexpensive film scanner over any sort of flatbed. I have an HP S20xi for 35mm and an HP 7400c with trans adapter for medium format. The S20 simply works better/faster. It's worth the extra $200 over the Epson flatbed. Get a cheap flatbed to scan larger prints. Scanning most any print at over 600 dpi is pretty much a waste of bandwidth. The S20 does a fine job scanning any print up to 5x7at 300dpi. I need a Polaroid 120 for medium format and I'll be set. Between flatness issues, newton rings, fingerprints, and dust, scanning film on a flatbed is about as fun as dental work (these are still issues with film scanners, just less so.) Just my .02... Regards, Chris L. School Publications Guy
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
So what would be a recommended flatbed scanner to produce somewhat reasonable quality 35mm scans for about $150? If the Canon is no good, I need to find something else. HP? Epson? Microtek? Which model? Taka -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm Hi, TM wrote: I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400 dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. I think this is a generic Canon fault. My Canoscan film scanner is the same, as are others I have seen. If (when) I upgrade or it dies permanently, I will not be buying another Canon. mike
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
epson 1250, but be aware that the film scans will have some scan lines. --- TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what would be a recommended flatbed scanner to produce somewhat reasonable quality 35mm scans for about $150? If the Canon is no good, I need to find something else. HP? Epson? Microtek? Which model? Taka -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm Hi, TM wrote: I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400 dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. I think this is a generic Canon fault. My Canoscan film scanner is the same, as are others I have seen. If (when) I upgrade or it dies permanently, I will not be buying another Canon. mike __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
I don't think that one is available any longer. How about a HP 3570c? Taka -Original Message- From: wendy beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flatbed scanners for 35mm I have the same one. It's not bad at all. I'm trying to get it to scan 6x7 negs but not having much success getting them to lie flat. I'll try again when the weather turns bad. Wendy From: Glen O'Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Taka I use the Hewlett Packard 5370C with the Transparency adapter and it works great. -Original Message- From: TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flatbed scanners for 35mm Anyone here use a flatbed other than the Epson 2450 for 35mm negatives? I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400 dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. Good thing is that I can save a lot on processing costs by just having the film developed and then I can scan the negatives to see which photos are worth printing and just print those. Taka --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
Taka wrote: So what would be a recommended flatbed scanner to produce somewhat reasonable quality 35mm scans for about $150? Hi Taka, I'm actually satisfied with results from my Canoscan D660U, but I may not be as critical as other users. I paid about $120 or $130 for it about a year (??) ago. It has a lamp built into the hood for scanning 35mm negatives. I can get 2400 ppi scans out of it, giving full-frame files of about 22 MB. I think the single-pass optical resolution is actually 1200 ppi, and it actually gets 2400 either by multiple passes using some sort of diffractive optics, or else by software interpolation. Often times I don't do any sharpening during scanning or during post-scan processing, and I probably ~should~ do that as part of normal operating procedure. Perhaps you can take a look at my PUG posts over the last year or so and see how the results I get with this scanner compare with your needs? Bill Peifer Rochester, NY
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
So in conclusion to my query, I did a bit more research and got an Epson 1660 Photo. It cost $30 more than the Canon 1250U2F, but it is much better. Advantages of the Epson over Canon: 1. Can scan up to 6 frames at once 2. No manually moving the frames in the negative holder 3. Sharper negative scans 4. 3200x1600 scans vs. 2400x1200 for Canon Advantages of Canon over Epson: 1. More compact- very thin 2. Consumes less power 3. Longer life w/ an LED array vs. cold-cathode lamp? 4. TWAIN driver is faster, better designed than Epson's HP was out because I couldn't find the 5370 that people mentioned, the 5400 did not have a transparency adapter (it is optional), the 5500 is much more expensive and anything lower-line (like the 3570) has less resolution and seemingly less capable. I also couldn't figure out the model lines- there are so many HP scanners out there, depending on which store you go to there are different models or so it seems. Now this is definitely no substitute for a real film scanner but I'm hoping this will be more than sufficient to proof negatives before printing, esp. enlargements. I'm hoping my shots of the '62 Ferrari GTO will come out as good or better than the BMW 3.5 CSL, which might be a keeper (at least up to 5x7). Taka
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
I also forgot- thanks to all who replied, it was very helpful and very timely. Have a good weekend! Taka
Flatbed scanners for 35mm
Anyone here use a flatbed other than the Epson 2450 for 35mm negatives? I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter and found that the scans are rather soft even at 2400 dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. Good thing is that I can save a lot on processing costs by just having the film developed and then I can scan the negatives to see which photos are worth printing and just print those. Taka
