Grandfather Mountain Photography Weekend

[John]

Grandfather Mountain Photography Weekend registration opens July 5

https://grandfather.com/grandfather-mountain-photography-weekend-registration-opens-july-5/

It says there's going to be a contest. Will there be a Mark & Doug show?

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Re: Grandfather Mountain

[John]

On 4/1/2021 17:07:04, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


Looks like there are going to be some changes post covid.

The Nature Photography Weekend & the Camera Clinic are going to be combined into
The Grandfather Mountain Photography Weekend. August 14 & 15

https://grandfather.com/event/grandfather-mountain-photography-weekend/


I've been in communication with Frank at GFM. The nature museum and
auditorium are currently under construction and undergoing massive
upgrades, so they aren't available for use. So with no food services
and no place to hold the photo presentations or contest and awards
there's no way they can hold a Nature Photography Weekend. They're
doing a much more low-key event (everything outdoors) in August this
year.
  
  



That's what it says in the link.

"Due to COVID-19 and ongoing renovation to the Grandfather Mountain Nature 
Museum, the nonprofit nature park’s annual Nature Photography Weekend and Camera 
Clinic have been combined into one event for 2021"


Maybe next year it will go back to being separate weekends or maybe the new 
format will work well and they'll decide to keep on with it.


But it does say:

"The annual Nature Photography Weekend photo contest will also return."

Will the Doug & Mark show return with it?

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Re: Grandfather Mountain

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>Looks like there are going to be some changes post covid.
>
>The Nature Photography Weekend & the Camera Clinic are going to be combined 
>into 
>The Grandfather Mountain Photography Weekend. August 14 & 15
>
>https://grandfather.com/event/grandfather-mountain-photography-weekend/

I've been in communication with Frank at GFM. The nature museum and
auditorium are currently under construction and undergoing massive
upgrades, so they aren't available for use. So with no food services
and no place to hold the photo presentations or contest and awards
there's no way they can hold a Nature Photography Weekend. They're
doing a much more low-key event (everything outdoors) in August this
year.
 
 
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Grandfather Mountain

[John]

Looks like there are going to be some changes post covid.

The Nature Photography Weekend & the Camera Clinic are going to be combined into 
The Grandfather Mountain Photography Weekend. August 14 & 15


https://grandfather.com/event/grandfather-mountain-photography-weekend/


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend 2020 CANCELLED

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>I got an email from them this morning. Tickets usually go on sale April 1.

Yeah, an email went out to the NPW team members a couple of days ago.
We'd all been expecting it. 

I'm hoping things are settled enough for the Camera Clinic weekend to
run in August.
 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend 2020 CANCELLED

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/4/20, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I got an email from them this morning. Tickets usually go on sale April 1.
>
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> Regrettably, due to safety concerns surrounding the spread of COVID-19
>(novel
>> coronavirus), Grandfather Mountain has canceled the 2020 Nature Photography
>> Weekend, previously scheduled for May 29-31.

Well, I was expecting that.

The good news is this increases my chances of coming along next year.

Let's get this ball rolling please Scotty and Ceeb!

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Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend 2020 CANCELLED

[John]

I got an email from them this morning. Tickets usually go on sale April 1.


Dear friends,

Regrettably, due to safety concerns surrounding the spread of COVID-19 (novel
coronavirus), Grandfather Mountain has canceled the 2020 Nature Photography
Weekend, previously scheduled for May 29-31.

This was not an easy decision to reach, but we feel it's a responsible one,
as the safety of our guests and staff comes first and foremost.

Grandfather Mountain voluntarily closed March 15, following suit with
executive orders from N.C. Gov. Roy Cooper (https://governor.nc.gov/) , the
latest of which directs North Carolinians to shelter at home
(https://files.nc.gov/governor/documents/files/EO121-Stay-at-Home-Order-3.pdf)
for 30 days, March 30 to April 29.

During the temporary closure, the park will maintain a minimal level of
essential staffing on site, including animal habitat keepers, maintenance and
security, while strictly adhering to guidelines and recommendations from
Centers for Disease Control (https://www.cdc.gov/) , the N.C. Department of
Health and Human Services (https://www.ncdhhs.gov/) and local officials
(https://www.apphealthcare.com/) .

As of now, the 2020 Grandfather Mountain Camera Clinic
(https://grandfather.com/event/grandfather-mountain-camera-clinic-2020) is
still scheduled for Aug. 15-16, while staff works on alternative methods of
providing a Nature Photography Weekend experience to our NPW family. Keep an
eye on your inbox and www.grandfather.com (https://grandfather.com/) for news
and updates.

Thanks for your patience, support and understanding. In the meantime, we hope
you and yours are doing well and keeping safe. We look forward to seeing you
all back on the mountain in the near future.

Sincerely, 
Frank Ruggiero Director of Marketing & Communications Grandfather

Mountain Stewardship Foundation


It's a shame, because I really look forward to seeing some of y'all when I get 
there (actually, I look forward to seeing ALL y'all, but only some of you come 
to the Grandfather Mountain NPW).


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/5/19, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.
> Hold on, hold on.  I know it's here somewhere.
 And don't forget the video of when Mark met that huge Bigfoot with
>the hairy appendages...


>>> They weren't *that* hairy.
>> Cotty is, after all, basically a shaved bigfoot.
>Isn't that being a bit disrespectful, to bigfoot?

And for only the second time in recorded history, I actually agree with Peter 
Alling.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/7/2019 4:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 5/7/2019 12:28:28, Steve Cottrell wrote:

He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.

Hold on, hold on.  I know it's here somewhere.

And don't forget the video of when Mark met that huge Bigfoot with the hairy 
appendages...



They weren't *that* hairy.

Cotty is, after all, basically a shaved bigfoot.

Isn't that being a bit disrespectful, to bigfoot?
  


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>On 5/7/2019 12:28:28, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> 
 He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.
>>>
>>> Hold on, hold on.  I know it's here somewhere.
>> 
>> And don't forget the video of when Mark met that huge Bigfoot with the hairy 
>> appendages...
>> 
>> 
>
>They weren't *that* hairy.

Cotty is, after all, basically a shaved bigfoot.
 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[John]

On 5/7/2019 12:28:28, Steve Cottrell wrote:



He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.


Hold on, hold on.  I know it's here somewhere.


And don't forget the video of when Mark met that huge Bigfoot with the hairy 
appendages...




They weren't *that* hairy.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

>> He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.
>
>Hold on, hold on.  I know it's here somewhere.

And don't forget the video of when Mark met that huge Bigfoot with the hairy 
appendages...


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:09 AM Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> Steve Cottrell wrote:
>
> >the only question remains is that shall I let him know he doesn't have to 
> >look anymore? I mean, it might be good exercise for him..
>
> He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.

Hold on, hold on.  I know it's here somewhere.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 5:13 AM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 2/5/19, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >> >>> The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.
> >> >>
> >> >> His real name is Están Halapiño.
> >> >
> >> >OK Bob, you outted me. But I do prefer the proper spelling: Están
> Jalapiño.
> >>
> >> Misspelling someone's name pretty much guarantees a chili reception.
> >
> >Not grounds for a real beef, though.
>
> Being incognito, does he see what a spicy?
>

He will be peppered with comments

Dave

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/5/19, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> >>> The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.
>> >> 
>> >> His real name is Están Halapiño.
>> >
>> >OK Bob, you outted me. But I do prefer the proper spelling: Están Jalapiño.
>> 
>> Misspelling someone's name pretty much guarantees a chili reception.
>
>Not grounds for a real beef, though.

Being incognito, does he see what a spicy?

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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> On 02 May 2019 at 02:00 Postmaster  wrote:
> 
> 
> Stanley Halpin wrote:
> 
> >> On May 1, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 1 May 2019, at 14:45, Postmaster  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Alan C wrote:
> >>> 
>  Cotty
>  
>  Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
>  attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
>  don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
>  The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?
> >>> 
> >>> The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.
> >> 
> >> His real name is Están Halapiño.
> >
> >OK Bob, you outted me. But I do prefer the proper spelling: Están Jalapiño.
> 
> Misspelling someone's name pretty much guarantees a chili reception.

Not grounds for a real beef, though.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Ken Waller]

Misspelling someone's name pretty much guarantees a chili reception.


Now you've gone and spilt the beans

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Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request


Stanley Halpin wrote:


On May 1, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:


On 1 May 2019, at 14:45, Postmaster  wrote:

Alan C wrote:


Cotty

Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to
attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I
don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that?
The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?


The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.


His real name is Están Halapiño.


OK Bob, you outted me. But I do prefer the proper spelling: Están Jalapiño.


Misspelling someone's name pretty much guarantees a chili reception.



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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[John]

On 5/1/2019 17:18:31, Postmaster wrote:

John wrote:


06:47 Scott Loveless (?) w/ Pentax 645 FILM camera !!!


That was the year Scott entered the photo contest by shooting medium
format B&W film, developing it at the camp site and *scanning* the
negs into digital form (also at the camp site). He should have won
some sort of award for that alone.



Yeah, he should have.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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Stanley Halpin wrote:

>> On May 1, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1 May 2019, at 14:45, Postmaster  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alan C wrote:
>>> 
 Cotty
 
 Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
 attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
 don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
 The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?
>>> 
>>> The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.
>> 
>> His real name is Están Halapiño.
>
>OK Bob, you outted me. But I do prefer the proper spelling: Están Jalapiño.

Misspelling someone's name pretty much guarantees a chili reception.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Stanley Halpin]

> On May 1, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
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> 
> 
>> On 1 May 2019, at 14:45, Postmaster  wrote:
>> 
>> Alan C wrote:
>> 
>>> Cotty
>>> 
>>> Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
>>> attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
>>> don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
>>> The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?
>> 
>> The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.
> 
> His real name is Están Halapiño.
> 


OK Bob, you outted me. But I do prefer the proper spelling: Están Jalapiño.

Stan


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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> On 1 May 2019, at 14:45, Postmaster  wrote:
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> Alan C wrote:
> 
>> Cotty
>> 
>> Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
>> attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
>> don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
>> The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?
> 
> The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.

His real name is Están Halapiño.
 



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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/5/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>00:54 Picnic area aka PDML Central. 

[snip]

Holy Dooley!!!

Take a bow John.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/5/19, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Helen, Helen, Helen, Helen, and some guys.

*sigh*

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:19 PM Postmaster 
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> John wrote:
>
> >06:47 Scott Loveless (?) w/ Pentax 645 FILM camera !!!
>
> That was the year Scott entered the photo contest by shooting medium
> format B&W film, developing it at the camp site and *scanning* the
> negs into digital form (also at the camp site). He should have won
> some sort of award for that alone.
>

He did, i was not there to snore.:-)

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John wrote:

>06:47 Scott Loveless (?) w/ Pentax 645 FILM camera !!!

That was the year Scott entered the photo contest by shooting medium
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[John]

On 5/1/2019 03:51:09, Alan C wrote:

Cotty

Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to attend a 
gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I don't know who the 
"stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? The narrator wearing the 
bandanna & the members of the group scene?


Alan C




00:54 Picnic area aka PDML Central. The silver station wagon with the raised 
tailgate was my home away from home for the weekend.


00:57 (L to R) Scott, Nico, Mrs (Bob) Sullivan, Matt Maessen (?) - Correct me if 
I'm wrong on any of these and/or forgive any mispellings.

Ted Bielby's voice over begins.

01:06 Mrs Sullivan, Ted Beilby

01:10 I don't know, but that's me walking through at 01:11

01:20 Stan Halpin

01:31 Ted Beilby

01:43 I think that's "Cotty junior".

01:46 I think that's my "Bigma" (Sigma 50 - 500)

01:56 The old bald Eagle - I don't remember her name but she lived to be 50+ 
years old; died of old age.


02:04 "Cotty junior" again & I think Mat Theissen voice over

02:24 Stan Halpin voice over, "Helen" who was the official photographer for 
Grandfather Mountain that year. A nice person even if she wasn't a Pentaxian.


02:36 One of the bears who is not Mildred.

02:58 Phalacrocorax auritus - official PDML bird

03:10 Otter in the habitat

03:26 Scott (?) & Matt Maessen

03:32 Christine Aguila

03:41 Stan Halpin

04:08 Ted Beilby

04:13 "The Attic Window" - I think that's Helen again.
Stan Halpin voice over

04:54 starts with images from the first *PDML Photo Annual*

"Amgen Tour of California" - John Francis
"Blue Dasher" - Mark Cassino
"Chicago Fog" - Christine Aguila
"Dramatic (Sunol water Temple) - Marnie Parker (clean out your inbox)
"Faith" - Subash Jeyan
"Frameworks" - Doug Brewer
"Fungus, Cambria County, Pennsylvania" - Matthew Hunt
"Hazy Hong Kong Harbor" - Ira H. Bryant
"Morning at Mollymook" - Brian Waters
"Mindanao" - Bong Manayon (cover image for first PDML Photo Annual 2008 - 2009)
"Oasis" - Fernando Terrazzino
"Pass in Review" - John Sessoms
"Plowing" - Dave Brooks
"Unaware of the Stare" - Frank Theriault ("knarF")
"Leaving" - Luka Knezevic-Strika

06:13 Stan Halpin

06:47 Scott Loveless (?) w/ Pentax 645 FILM camera !!!

07:06 Stan Halpin

08:01 Scott Loveless (?)

08:13 group photo - the back of my head & my ragged-ass ponytail only two years 
after I retired from the Army.


08:14 ... and there I am, finally facing the camera. I think that's Doug Brewer 
on the other side of Stan Halpin (with his hands in his pockets).


08:17 Nico, Ted Beilby, Matt Maessen and Mark Roberts

08:20 Matt Maessen, I don't know who, ME.

08:25 Nico, Christine Aguila's husband Darryl (??)

08:28 Matt Maessen

08:30 PDML
Front Row L-R Bob Sullivan's wife, Christine Aguila, Scott Lovelless (?) Me, Mrs 
Nico, Nico.


Second Row L-R Darryl, Doug Brewer, Ted Beilby, Stan Halpin

Back Row L-R Mark Roberts, Stephen Cottrell (Cotty junior), the other one whose 
name I don't know and another one I don't remember his name either.


08:37 Ted Beilby

09:06 Helen who is not a Pentaxian

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 1/5/19, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I was going to suggest somebody provide a crib sheet identifying the folks
>>shown in the video (and possibly even photo credits for some of the stills).
>
>I'm deep in monthly accounts at mo but if I get the chance I'll grab some 
>screenshots and put names to faces - if I can remember!!!

Some of these old photo galleries might help:
https://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58#galleries


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Doug Brewer]

Easy. Helen, Helen, Helen, Helen, and some guys.

On 5/1/19 3:51 AM, Alan C wrote:

Cotty

Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?


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On 1/5/19, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I was going to suggest somebody provide a crib sheet identifying the folks
>shown in the video (and possibly even photo credits for some of the stills).

I'm deep in monthly accounts at mo but if I get the chance I'll grab some 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 09:51:09AM +0200, Alan C wrote:
> Cotty
> 
> Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to attend
> a gathering like that.?? Being a relatively new PDML member I don't know who
> the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? The narrator
> wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?
> 
> Alan C

I was going to suggest somebody provide a crib sheet identifying the folks
shown in the video (and possibly even photo credits for some of the stills).


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Alan C wrote:

>Cotty
>
>Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
>attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
>don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
>The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?

The guy in the bandana is noted Cuban guerilla leader Stan Halpin.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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Cotty

Many thanks. An interesting bit of nostalgia. I'd love to be able to 
attend a gathering like that.  Being a relatively new PDML member I 
don't know who the "stars" are. Perhaps someone could assist with that? 
The narrator wearing the bandanna & the members of the group scene?


Alan C

On 30-Apr-19 09:14 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 30/4/19, Cotty, discombobulated as usual, unleashed:


I'm just uploading it to a web page for anyone that wants to see it.

Here's the web page:



It may or may not display and r play properly on your computer - if not, 
download using link below and run locally (about 60MB)



It won't be easily downloadable from there so I'll provide a download link...

Download video using this link:



(link expires May 7, 2019)





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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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On 4/30/2019 3:14 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Here's the web page:



It may or may not display and r play properly on your computer - if 
not, download using link below and run locally (about 60MB)


The shots on and around the mountain bring back memories - I haven't 
been there in about 50 years. Although I have lived within about a mile 
of the Parkway (at its closest - the nearest entrance is about 3 miles 
away by road) my range is all in the northern half. When I am on the 
Parkway in recent decades it has always been between Rockfish Gap (mile 
marker 0) and Fancy Gap (mile marker 200).


Last Sunday week I decided to take an afternoon drive to Mabry Mill. I 
hadn't been there in about 20 years and had forgotten its orientation. 
Morning is best for the preferred view of the wheel side of the mill and 
I was there in mid-afternoon. I took a number of shots, but they were a 
bit dull because the mill is a weathered gray. I decided to warm things 
up a bit and this shot, taken through a Hoya Sepia B filter, is my 
favorite:


https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/images/MabryMill.jpg

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

On 30/4/19, Cotty, discombobulated as usual, unleashed:

>I'm just uploading it to a web page for anyone that wants to see it.

Here's the web page:



It may or may not display and r play properly on your computer - if not, 
download using link below and run locally (about 60MB)


>It won't be easily downloadable from there so I'll provide a download link...

Download video using this link:



(link expires May 7, 2019)


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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On 30/4/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>And this time I'll definitely make a copy "just in case".

Thanks for your help John.

I'm just uploading it to a web page for anyone that wants to see it.

It won't be easily downloadable from there so I'll provide a download link...

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And this time I'll definitely make a copy "just in case".


On 4/30/2019 10:32:11, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 30/4/19, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


Now put it up on line somewhere so we can see it. (Unless Doug and I
are in it, in which case... just delete it ;-)


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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Looks like I don't have it.

On 4/29/2019 16:42:27, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 29/4/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:


What video format would it be in? I doubt I have
it, but I'll search anyway.


John, it would be an MP4 file - and may have been called something like 
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On 30/4/19, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Now put it up on line somewhere so we can see it. (Unless Doug and I
>are in it, in which case... just delete it ;-)

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 30/4/19, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>thanks to the kind individual who kept it and DropBoxed it to me 
>
>Who shall remain nameless but was in fact Brian Walters :-)
>
>I also had a message from Scott Loveless saying that he thinks it might be 
>buried on an old drive somewhere but it might take time to look for it.
>
>the only question remains is that shall I let him know he doesn't have to look 
>anymore? I mean, it might be good exercise for him..

He definitely needs the exercise. Keep him going.

Now put it up on line somewhere so we can see it. (Unless Doug and I
are in it, in which case... just delete it ;-)

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On 30/4/19, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>thanks to the kind individual who kept it and DropBoxed it to me 

Who shall remain nameless but was in fact Brian Walters :-)

I also had a message from Scott Loveless saying that he thinks it might be 
buried on an old drive somewhere but it might take time to look for it.

the only question remains is that shall I let him know he doesn't have to look 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

Dear All

I now have the video back - thanks to the kind individual who kept it and 
DropBoxed it to me - really appreciate that.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Stanley Halpin]

Brian, that is good news!

I had come up empty so far. I could well have done like John did, just viewing 
online without ever downloading the files.

stan


> On Apr 29, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> I think I have it.  It's called "PDML Proposal Sequence on Vimeo.mp4" - about
> 60MB.
> 
> I'll dropbox it and send you the link.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30 April 2019 at 06:42 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/4/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> What video format would it be in? I doubt I have 
>>> it, but I'll search anyway.
>> 
>> John, it would be an MP4 file - and may have been called something like
>> 'GFM-test.MP4'
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
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I think I have it.  It's called "PDML Proposal Sequence on Vimeo.mp4" - about
60MB.

I'll dropbox it and send you the link.


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> On 30 April 2019 at 06:42 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> 
> On 29/4/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >What video format would it be in? I doubt I have 
> >it, but I'll search anyway.
> 
> John, it would be an MP4 file - and may have been called something like
> 'GFM-test.MP4'
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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On 29/4/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>What video format would it be in? I doubt I have 
>it, but I'll search anyway.

John, it would be an MP4 file - and may have been called something like 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[John]

I'm pretty sure it was 2009, because that was the first year I attended & I 
remember seeing the back of my sweater in one of the scenes. Plus, I remember 
one of my images from the first PDML annual was briefly shown.


I wish I'd downloaded a copy, but I thought I'd always be able to watch it on 
Cotty's website if I wanted to. What video format would it be in? I doubt I have 
it, but I'll search anyway.


On 4/28/2019 19:58:15, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I did just do a quick skim through some of the accumulated 21k emails in my
PDML box. I found the [dead] file links, but of course that is no help.

The GFM year in question is definitely 2008. And if I can’t find the file(s),
I would expect that Mark would have them, both because of the GFM content and
because he seems to be capable of maintaining proper file structures.

stan


On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 28/4/19, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

I just did a quick look at my current drives, don't see the video(s). 
Tomorrow I'll pull some of my older drives off the shelf, fire them up 
and see what is there.


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 28/4/19, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>The GFM year in question is definitely 2008. And if I can't find the
>>file(s), I would expect that Mark would have them, both because of the
>>GFM content and because he seems to be capable of maintaining proper
>>file structures.
>
>Thanks Stan, I'll give Mark a shout unless he sees this, which he doubtless 
>will.
>
>(Mark, any chance you have a copy of the video?)

'fraid not. I don't generally get involved in video if I can help it.


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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

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On 28/4/19, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The GFM year in question is definitely 2008. And if I can't find the
>file(s), I would expect that Mark would have them, both because of the
>GFM content and because he seems to be capable of maintaining proper
>file structures.

Thanks Stan, I'll give Mark a shout unless he sees this, which he doubtless 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Stanley Halpin]

I did just do a quick skim through some of the accumulated 21k emails in my 
PDML box. I found the [dead] file links, but of course that is no help.

The GFM year in question is definitely 2008. And if I can’t find the file(s), I 
would expect that Mark would have them, both because of the GFM content and 
because he seems to be capable of maintaining proper file structures.

stan

> On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 28/4/19, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I just did a quick look at my current drives, don't see the video(s).
>> Tomorrow I'll pull some of my older drives off the shelf, fire them up
>> and see what is there.
> 
> You, sir, are a gentleman!
> 
> No hurry - THANKS!
> 
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On 28/4/19, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I just did a quick look at my current drives, don't see the video(s).
>Tomorrow I'll pull some of my older drives off the shelf, fire them up
>and see what is there.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Stan Halpin]

I just did a quick look at my current drives, don’t see the video(s). Tomorrow 
I’ll pull some of my older drives off the shelf, fire them up and see what is 
there.

Stan

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> On Apr 28, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi PDMLers
> 
> I have an odd request - does anyone happen to have a computer file of the 
> test film I made back about 10 years of the PDML meet at Grandfather 
> Mountain? It features interviews with Stan Halpin and Scott Loveless amongst 
> others and photos from a PDML annual.
> 
> I had a massive hard drive crash a couple of years ago and at the time I 
> recovered most of the files and stored them ready for whenever. Well, 
> whenever was today and I was sorting through them and I cannot find hide nor 
> hair of this (obviously important!) piece of work.
> 
> If anyone (Stan?) has a copy would you mind WeTransferring it to me at 
> 'co...@seeingeye.tv' please?
> 
> I found the Chicago Dankhaus gallery video and the one of Helen Hopper, the 
> GFM house photog, although only in small lo-res version.
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Grandfather Mountain Video Request

[Steve Cottrell]

Hi PDMLers

I have an odd request - does anyone happen to have a computer file of the test 
film I made back about 10 years of the PDML meet at Grandfather Mountain? It 
features interviews with Stan Halpin and Scott Loveless amongst others and 
photos from a PDML annual.

I had a massive hard drive crash a couple of years ago and at the time I 
recovered most of the files and stored them ready for whenever. Well, whenever 
was today and I was sorting through them and I cannot find hide nor hair of 
this (obviously important!) piece of work.

If anyone (Stan?) has a copy would you mind WeTransferring it to me at 
'co...@seeingeye.tv' please?

I found the Chicago Dankhaus gallery video and the one of Helen Hopper, the GFM 
house photog, although only in small lo-res version.

Cheers

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Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend

[John]

I'm registered. There look to be about 34 places left.

I *AM* camping, so y'all better bring your rain gear.

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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain

[John]

But it *WAS* entertaining when three winners in a row piped up with "That's not 
my photo".


I think that should be one of the random non-Pentaxian quotes added to the 2018 
quotations list:


"That's not my photo" - Random GFM Nature Photography Weekend contest "winner".


On 6/4/2018 10:30, Doug Brewer wrote:

Aw, you're just saying that because we fucked up the awards.

Great seeing you there, John. Hope you enjoyed yourself.

On 6/3/18 6:11 PM, John wrote:
... and what a weekend it was. This was my 10th year at the Nature Photography 
Weekend.


Today's Doug & Mark show was the best I've seen.

I should have photos to post later, but I'm going to need some time to unload 
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain

[Doug Brewer]

Aw, you're just saying that because we fucked up the awards.

Great seeing you there, John. Hope you enjoyed yourself.

On 6/3/18 6:11 PM, John wrote:
... and what a weekend it was. This was my 10th year at the Nature 
Photography Weekend.


Today's Doug & Mark show was the best I've seen.

I should have photos to post later, but I'm going to need some time to 
unload & unwind first.







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Home from Grandfather Mountain

[John]

... and what a weekend it was. This was my 10th year at the Nature Photography 
Weekend.


Today's Doug & Mark show was the best I've seen.

I should have photos to post later, but I'm going to need some time to unload & 
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On the way to Grandfather Mountain

[John]

Leaving in just a few minutes ... one last "pit stop" and locking the doors.

At this point, I'm only 5 hours behind schedule ... which is not as bad as it 
might have been. I had an unscheduled maintenance problem I spent 10 hours 
correcting - 10 hours I would have spent staging my camping gear, cameras, etc.



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[John]

Brain malfunction.

I had an early doctors appointment on Monday & scrambling around to get ready so 
I'd get there on time, I completely forgot about Grandfather Mountain Nature 
Photography Weekend's registration opening up on Monday 02 April.


Had an "Oh Shit!" moment just now when I finally remembered it.

Fortunately for me, it hadn't sold out yet, so I was still able to register.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend

[David J Brooks]

was sorta kinda thinking of going this year but i'm going to drive out
to Newfoundland at the same time so next yaer.??

Dave

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:24 PM, John  wrote:
> Jun 1-3, 2018
>
> On-line registration opens 9:00am EST Monday, 02 April 2018
>
> https://grandfather.com/events/nature-photography-weekend-4/
>
> Camping: Although Grandfather Mountain does not operate a commercial
> campground, campsites are available at no charge in the Grandfather Mountain
> Woods Walk Picnic Area for people participating in this event.
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> Hope to see all y'all there.
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[John]

Jun 1-3, 2018

On-line registration opens 9:00am EST Monday, 02 April 2018

https://grandfather.com/events/nature-photography-weekend-4/

Camping: Although Grandfather Mountain does not operate a commercial campground, 
campsites are available at no charge in the Grandfather Mountain Woods Walk 
Picnic Area for people participating in this event.


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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Paul Stenquist]

Sorry to hear of Don's passing. Nice guy.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 5, 2017, at 7:05 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for letting is know about Don. I met him 3 times and thought he
> was one of the nicest people on earth. He will be missed everywhere.
> 
> dave
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Mark Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> Good to see you at the mountain, John. It was a really good weekend.
>> 
>> I'm at my friend's place in Ashe county (about 50 miles from GFM) and
>> got thoroughly soaked on the ride here. The phrase "biblical
>> proportions" pretty well describes the downpour I rode through. I'm
>> hoping for better weather for the next two days of travel back to
>> Boston. Motorcycle travel is not for wimps!
>> 
>> One sad note to the weekend: Don Nelson, former Pentax rep and pretty
>> much the founder of the PDML (at least he was the one who decided to
>> turn it over to Doug Brewer) died on Saturday. He'd been in poor
>> health for a few years and had a stroke a week ago. It would be
>> difficult to overstate Don's influence on the PDML as a whole and
>> several of its members, myself included, in particular. He'll be
>> greatly missed.
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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[David J Brooks]

Thanks for letting is know about Don. I met him 3 times and thought he
was one of the nicest people on earth. He will be missed everywhere.

dave

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Good to see you at the mountain, John. It was a really good weekend.
>
> I'm at my friend's place in Ashe county (about 50 miles from GFM) and
> got thoroughly soaked on the ride here. The phrase "biblical
> proportions" pretty well describes the downpour I rode through. I'm
> hoping for better weather for the next two days of travel back to
> Boston. Motorcycle travel is not for wimps!
>
> One sad note to the weekend: Don Nelson, former Pentax rep and pretty
> much the founder of the PDML (at least he was the one who decided to
> turn it over to Doug Brewer) died on Saturday. He'd been in poor
> health for a few years and had a stroke a week ago. It would be
> difficult to overstate Don's influence on the PDML as a whole and
> several of its members, myself included, in particular. He'll be
> greatly missed.
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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/6/17, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>One sad note to the weekend: Don Nelson, former Pentax rep and pretty
>much the founder of the PDML (at least he was the one who decided to
>turn it over to Doug Brewer) died on Saturday. He'd been in poor
>health for a few years and had a stroke a week ago. It would be
>difficult to overstate Don's influence on the PDML as a whole and
>several of its members, myself included, in particular. He'll be
>greatly missed.

I'd just seen that on FB. Many happy memories of Don from my visits to
GFM. An exceptional gentleman, that's sad news indeed. RIP Don.

I will dig out the video I shot when GFM honoured his achievements back
in 2009 I think it was - and provide a link.

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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[John]

On 6/4/2017 20:13, Mark Roberts wrote:

Good to see you at the mountain, John. It was a really good weekend.

I'm at my friend's place in Ashe county (about 50 miles from GFM) and
got thoroughly soaked on the ride here. The phrase "biblical
proportions" pretty well describes the downpour I rode through. I'm
hoping for better weather for the next two days of travel back to
Boston. Motorcycle travel is not for wimps!

One sad note to the weekend: Don Nelson, former Pentax rep and pretty
much the founder of the PDML (at least he was the one who decided to
turn it over to Doug Brewer) died on Saturday. He'd been in poor
health for a few years and had a stroke a week ago. It would be
difficult to overstate Don's influence on the PDML as a whole and
several of its members, myself included, in particular. He'll be
greatly missed.



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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Jun 4, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> One sad note to the weekend: Don Nelson, former Pentax rep and pretty
> much the founder of the PDML (at least he was the one who decided to
> turn it over to Doug Brewer) died on Saturday. He'd been in poor
> health for a few years and had a stroke a week ago. It would be
> difficult to overstate Don's influence on the PDML as a whole and
> several of its members, myself included, in particular. He'll be
> greatly missed.
> 

Thank you for that info Mark. I had little chance to get to know him but it was 
obvious that Don was a very special person.

Stan


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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Mark Roberts]

Good to see you at the mountain, John. It was a really good weekend.

I'm at my friend's place in Ashe county (about 50 miles from GFM) and
got thoroughly soaked on the ride here. The phrase "biblical
proportions" pretty well describes the downpour I rode through. I'm
hoping for better weather for the next two days of travel back to
Boston. Motorcycle travel is not for wimps!

One sad note to the weekend: Don Nelson, former Pentax rep and pretty
much the founder of the PDML (at least he was the one who decided to
turn it over to Doug Brewer) died on Saturday. He'd been in poor
health for a few years and had a stroke a week ago. It would be
difficult to overstate Don's influence on the PDML as a whole and
several of its members, myself included, in particular. He'll be
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Re: Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/6/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Pulled in about 15 minutes ago. Got half-way through unloading my car
>before it started pouring down rain, so I still have a bit of that ahead
>of me before I'll really be home again.
>
>Baxter hasn't decided yet whether she's going to forgive me for making
>her stay at the pet hotel while I was gone, but I think she'll come
>around eventually. At least I hustled home to get her before they close
>for the evening, so she didn't have to spend another night alone.
>
>I have got to start training her to walk on a leash & ride in the car so
>I can take her with me. Otherwise I'm going to have problems getting
>around to photograph stuff.

Hope you had a good time John. Thanks for letting us know you're home safe.

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Back Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[John]

Pulled in about 15 minutes ago. Got half-way through unloading my car
before it started pouring down rain, so I still have a bit of that ahead
of me before I'll really be home again.

Baxter hasn't decided yet whether she's going to forgive me for making
her stay at the pet hotel while I was gone, but I think she'll come
around eventually. At least I hustled home to get her before they close
for the evening, so she didn't have to spend another night alone.

I have got to start training her to walk on a leash & ride in the car so
I can take her with me. Otherwise I'm going to have problems getting
around to photograph stuff.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend

[John Sessoms]

Unfortunately, my alternative (Earthlink) is also being screwed up by
spammers right now. Several of the IP addresses for their mail servers
keep getting blacklisted by the SPAM catching service the PDML Server
uses. If my post to PDML catches one of those IP addresses it gets
bounced by the PDML server.

Finding anyone at Earthlink to address the problem is almost as
difficult as finding someone at Yahoo.

... and y'all should remember all the aggravation Time-Warner &
Roadrunner email gave me (and AnnSan).


On 4/6/2017 18:54, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob Sullivan  wrote:


John, Your last 6 emails were spam to me. Regards,  Bob S.


The problem is Yahoo. Yahoo has a terrible reputation for having spam
sent from their network, making it as difficult as possible for people
to report it and doing nothing about it when it is reported.



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Re: Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend

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Bob Sullivan  wrote:

>John, Your last 6 emails were spam to me. Regards,  Bob S.

The problem is Yahoo. Yahoo has a terrible reputation for having spam
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It's a known problem. Yahoo & Gmail do not play nice together.

On 4/6/2017 17:12, Bob Sullivan wrote:

John, Your last 6 emails were spam to me. Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:41 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:


I'm currently using Yahoo for PDML.

There's a known problem between Yahoo & Gmail regarding mailing lists.
Gmail says Yahoo mail fails Yahoo's own authentication and marks the
Yahoo messages as SPAM.

I'm pretty sure there's a way Gmail can create a filter to white-list
the email address.


On 4/3/2017 4:35 PM, Gonz wrote:


John, I don't know why, but all your mail shows up in my gmail spam
folder.


On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:45 PM, John Sessoms 
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Registration is open.

https://grandfather.com/nature-photography-weekend-online-registration/

I'm in. Hope to see some of you there.




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John, Your last 6 emails were spam to me. Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:41 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> I'm currently using Yahoo for PDML.
>
> There's a known problem between Yahoo & Gmail regarding mailing lists.
> Gmail says Yahoo mail fails Yahoo's own authentication and marks the
> Yahoo messages as SPAM.
>
> I'm pretty sure there's a way Gmail can create a filter to white-list
> the email address.
>
>
> On 4/3/2017 4:35 PM, Gonz wrote:
>
>> John, I don't know why, but all your mail shows up in my gmail spam
>> folder.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:45 PM, John Sessoms 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Registration is open.
>>>
>>> https://grandfather.com/nature-photography-weekend-online-registration/
>>>
>>> I'm in. Hope to see some of you there.
>>>
>>>
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I'm currently using Yahoo for PDML.

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I'm pretty sure there's a way Gmail can create a filter to white-list
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On 4/3/2017 4:35 PM, Gonz wrote:

John, I don't know why, but all your mail shows up in my gmail spam folder.


On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:45 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

Registration is open.

https://grandfather.com/nature-photography-weekend-online-registration/

I'm in. Hope to see some of you there.



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John, I don't know why, but all your mail shows up in my gmail spam folder.


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Registration is open.

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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[John]

We used to use flea & tick collars around an ankle until the Army banned
it because too many idiots were too stupid to understand you had to put
it around the OUTSIDE of your boot, not on the inside.

There was also a tick repellent packet you could carry in an outside
cargo pocket. Taken off the market again because stupid people didn't
use it according to the instructions, and had a reaction.

On 6/20/2016 12:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Get a good tick repellent, (they're hard to find most don't work worth
crap), and put it on you cloths, use it in conjunction with the mosquito
repellent.

On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you
go... although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as
earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where
the two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger. The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Ken Waller]

If you're traipsing around in the woods be sure to wear long pants and tuck 
your pants legs into your socks.


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- Original Message - 
From: "P.J. Alling" 

Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.


Get a good tick repellent, (they're hard to find most don't work worth 
crap), and put it on you cloths, use it in conjunction with the mosquito 
repellent.


On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go... 
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they


are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the 
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined 
where bears have been recently spotted according to the best information 
the pilot has acquired. The information sheet includes the following 
list of items that we should not bring:


• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless 
thoroughly washed

• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?

On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila 
 wrote:

Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger. The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[P.J. Alling]

Get a good tick repellent, (they're hard to find most don't work worth 
crap), and put it on you cloths, use it in conjunction with the mosquito 
repellent.


On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you 
go... although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as 
earlier they


are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where 
the two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be 
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the 
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet 
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:


• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless 
thoroughly washed

• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?

On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila 
 wrote:

Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger. The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Ken Waller]

It takes a long time to become that natural smelling.


I could get there after around 18-24 miles backpacking on warm days - Just 
ask my wife !


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On 8 Jun 2016, at 19:04, Ken Waller  wrote:


The whole idea here is to not present a unique odor for the bear to come 
and check out.


So the less you smell 'civilized' the less chance you'll become their 
next meal.


It takes a long time to become that natural smelling. Snipers and ghillies 
and such-like apparently spend days in the wild getting smelly enough not 
to leave a human scent that dogs can follow or animals can recognise as 
human.




A big issue with bears is not to suprise them. Several of the maulings 
I'm aware of were due to humans getting

between the mom and her cubs or




those that came upon a bear and surprised it.


That would certainly do it.

B



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- Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin" 


Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.


In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the 
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined 
where bears have been recently spotted according to the best information 
the pilot has acquired. The information sheet includes the following 
list of items that we should not bring:


• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed

• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?

On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila 
 wrote:

Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time


It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

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On 8 Jun 2016, at 15:09, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Most of my Alaskan trips were scheduled for late August/early September to 
> take advantage of the fact that for the most part, the annoying bugs - black 
> flies, Mosquitos etc are long gone. I've run into snowstorms in late August 
> in Alaska.
> 
> I've always carried bells on my pack when I've been in bear country - I've 
> never seen bells in bear scat !

That's because they get stuck in the bears' teeth and they pick them out with 
your bones.

B
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

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On 8 Jun 2016, at 19:04, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> The whole idea here is to not present a unique odor for the bear to come and 
> check out.
> 
> So the less you smell 'civilized' the less chance you'll become their next 
> meal.

It takes a long time to become that natural smelling. Snipers and ghillies and 
such-like apparently spend days in the wild getting smelly enough not to leave 
a human scent that dogs can follow or animals can recognise as human.

> 
> A big issue with bears is not to suprise them. Several of the maulings I'm 
> aware of were due to humans getting
> between the mom and her cubs or


> those that came upon a bear and surprised it.

That would certainly do it.

B
> 
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin" 
> 
> Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.
> 
> 
>> In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
>> of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
>> bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot 
>> has acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items 
>> that we should not bring:
>> 
>> • Seafood in your lunches
>> • Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly washed
>> • Glass containers
>> • Aerosol sprays
>> • Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
>> • Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)
>> 
>> They don’t mention after-shave.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time
>>>> 
>>>> It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
>>>> before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
>>>> they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
>>>> proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
>>>> things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
>>>> them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
>>>> in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
>>>> -- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.
> 
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Ken Waller]

The whole idea here is to not present a unique odor for the bear to come and 
check out.


So the less you smell 'civilized' the less chance you'll become their next 
meal.


A big issue with bears is not to suprise them. Several of the maulings I'm 
aware of were due to humans getting
between the mom and her cubs or those that came upon a bear and surprised 
it.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Stanley Halpin" 

Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.


In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the 
pilot has acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of 
items that we should not bring:


• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed

• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila 
 wrote:

Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time


It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Alan C]

All that confusing advice is enough to drive any one bananas.

Also, don't use hormone skin cream or the mosquitoes may double in size!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: ann sanfedele

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:36 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

I think I read it in MIlepost or maybe John McPhee.. orfrom someone who
mentioned it when we were planning our trip..

Since I loathe bananas I felt pretty safe...  this was back in the 80's
so it wasn't from the web

but I heard it over and over whenwe were up there


ann


On 6/8/2016 8:06 AM, John wrote:

I never heard that one before.

A quick Google search is kind of inconclusive. There are sites that
claim eating bananas makes you tastier to mosquitoes and sites that
claim they make you less attractive and sites that claim it doesn't make
any difference.

Does the ban on aerosol sprays apply to the pump kind or just to the
kind in cans?

I have a good bug spray from REI that's eucalyptus based that works
really well. It doesn't smell like bananas or fish, but it's damn sure
effective against mosquitoes.

https://www.rei.com/product/828908/repel-lemon-eucalyptus-pump-spray-insect-repellent-4-fl-oz

On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go...
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[ann sanfedele]

I think I read it in MIlepost or maybe John McPhee.. orfrom someone who 
mentioned it when we were planning our trip..


Since I loathe bananas I felt pretty safe...  this was back in the 80's 
so it wasn't from the web


but I heard it over and over whenwe were up there


ann


On 6/8/2016 8:06 AM, John wrote:

I never heard that one before.

A quick Google search is kind of inconclusive. There are sites that
claim eating bananas makes you tastier to mosquitoes and sites that
claim they make you less attractive and sites that claim it doesn't make
any difference.

Does the ban on aerosol sprays apply to the pump kind or just to the
kind in cans?

I have a good bug spray from REI that's eucalyptus based that works
really well. It doesn't smell like bananas or fish, but it's damn sure
effective against mosquitoes.

https://www.rei.com/product/828908/repel-lemon-eucalyptus-pump-spray-insect-repellent-4-fl-oz 



On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go...
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any 
cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into 
close

proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Ken Waller]

Most of my Alaskan trips were scheduled for late August/early September to take 
advantage of the fact that for the most part, the annoying bugs - black flies, 
Mosquitos etc are long gone. I've run into snowstorms in late August in Alaska.

I've always carried bells on my pack when I've been in bear country - I've 
never seen bells in bear scat !

-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.
>
>Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go... 
>although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they
>
>are nasty little guys
>
>
>ann
>
>On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
>> of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
>> bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot 
>> has acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items 
>> that we should not bring:
>>
>>  • Seafood in your lunches
>>  • Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
>> washed
>>  • Glass containers
>>  • Aerosol sprays
>>  • Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
>>  • Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)
>>
>> They don’t mention after-shave.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>>
>>> So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
>>>
>>>> On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time
>>>> It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
>>>> before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
>>>> they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
>>>> proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
>>>> things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
>>>> them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
>>>> in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
>>>> -- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.


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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[John]

I never heard that one before.

A quick Google search is kind of inconclusive. There are sites that
claim eating bananas makes you tastier to mosquitoes and sites that
claim they make you less attractive and sites that claim it doesn't make
any difference.

Does the ban on aerosol sprays apply to the pump kind or just to the
kind in cans?

I have a good bug spray from REI that's eucalyptus based that works
really well. It doesn't smell like bananas or fish, but it's damn sure
effective against mosquitoes.

https://www.rei.com/product/828908/repel-lemon-eucalyptus-pump-spray-insect-repellent-4-fl-oz 



On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go...
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[ann sanfedele]

clearly the best move

ann


On 6/8/2016 12:51 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Stanley Halpin wrote:
We will leave out of Homer and probably go SW along the Katmai 
peninsula…


You're going to start your odyssey in Homer?





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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[ann sanfedele]

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go... 
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they


are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two of 
us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where bears 
have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot has 
acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items that we 
should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

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Stanley Halpin wrote:

We will leave out of Homer and probably go SW along the Katmai peninsula…


You're going to start your odyssey in Homer?


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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Stanley Halpin]

We will leave out of Homer and probably go SW along the Katmai peninsula…  

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin
>  wrote:
>> In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
>> of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
>> bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot 
>> has acquired.
> 
> Where will you be?  Brooks Falls in Katmai National Park was a very
> dependable spot for observing bear up close and personal, at least
> during the salmon run.
> 
> 
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:
> In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two of 
> us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where bears 
> have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot has 
> acquired.

Where will you be?  Brooks Falls in Katmai National Park was a very
dependable spot for observing bear up close and personal, at least
during the salmon run.


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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Bill]

On 6/7/2016 8:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two of 
us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where bears 
have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot has 
acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items that we 
should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.



Don't take a menstruating woman with you either, unless you are certain 
you can run faster than she can.




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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Stanley Halpin]

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two of 
us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where bears 
have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot has 
acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items that we 
should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed 
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft) 
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
> 
>> On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila  
>>> wrote:
>>> Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time
>> 
>> It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
>> before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
>> they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
>> proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
>> things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
>> them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
>> in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
>> -- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.
>> 
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[John]

If you carry a .22 pistol, you can pretty much ensure that's going to be
someone else.

On 6/7/2016 7:54 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

You don't have to out run a bear, just the slowest person in ytour group !

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- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" 
Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.



On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:


So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


Does a bear shit in the woods?

(we may never know.)


The first two years i was at GFM, 2005 and 2006, i had my tent very
close to PDML central, ie Cory's trailer. By the third year, 2007, i
guess everyone had enough of my snoring so they banished me to the
corner lot. Well guess what, the last night there a bear came in and
trashed the trash. I will assume when i make it back i'll be allowed
to resume my regular tent spot.

Dave


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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Ken Waller]

You don't have to out run a bear, just the slowest person in ytour group !

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- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.



On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:


So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


Does a bear shit in the woods?

(we may never know.)


The first two years i was at GFM, 2005 and 2006, i had my tent very
close to PDML central, ie Cory's trailer. By the third year, 2007, i
guess everyone had enough of my snoring so they banished me to the
corner lot. Well guess what, the last night there a bear came in and
trashed the trash. I will assume when i make it back i'll be allowed
to resume my regular tent spot.

Dave


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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Ken Waller]

Does a bear shit in the woods?


Most definitely - I've almost stepped in it several times.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Cottrell" 

Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.



On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:


So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


Does a bear shit in the woods?

(we may never know.)

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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Bob W-PDML]

On 8 Jun 2016, at 00:00, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>> On 7 Jun 2016, at 23:20, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
 So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
>>> Does a bear shit in the woods?
>> 
>> I thought that was the Pope.
> 
> I don't think any popes have ever been eaten by a bear.

Hmm. Well, Saint Ursula and her 11,000 virgins did bring about the death of 
Pope Cyriacus, albeit indirectly. Ursula means little she-bear...

B
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
>
> Does a bear shit in the woods?
>
> (we may never know.)

The first two years i was at GFM, 2005 and 2006, i had my tent very
close to PDML central, ie Cory's trailer. By the third year, 2007, i
guess everyone had enough of my snoring so they banished me to the
corner lot. Well guess what, the last night there a bear came in and
trashed the trash. I will assume when i make it back i'll be allowed
to resume my regular tent spot.

Dave
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Larry Colen]

Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 7 Jun 2016, at 23:20, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:


So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?

Does a bear shit in the woods?


I thought that was the Pope.


I don't think any popes have ever been eaten by a bear.







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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Bob W-PDML]

On 7 Jun 2016, at 23:20, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
> 
> Does a bear shit in the woods?

I thought that was the Pope.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/6/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

(we may never know.)

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