Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread Steve Pearson
Hi all,

I'm giving some serious thought to purchasing
Adorama's Flashpoint II 620 strobe kit.  They were
written up in this month's Pop Photo magazine.  I'm
thinking of starting with this one-light kit (w/ a
more powerful 300 w/s), as opposed to say a SP Studio
Systems 2-light kit.  My reasoning is I assume it's
better to get a more powerful strobe?  I also have a
Nikon slave flash that I was going to use as a
rear-shadow eliminator for portraits.  This is all
with the istD.

Will this work?  Is it best to fire the strobes with
the PC terminal, or via the slave from a 280 bounced
into a Lumiquest?

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Good to see you stepping out  learning.
With the more powerful lights you can always turn the power down as needed.

But having one or two depends on what you're shooting.  Having units with modeling 
lamps is important, imnsho.  You can see more of what is going on.

With one light, get a large reflector and stand to hold it.  You'll need to fill the 
shadows.  Otherwise portraits will be pretty harsh.

One thing I've done is to use a tiny, tiny flash on the shoe to trigger the slaves.  
Cover it with tissue so that it puts out enough to trigger the slaves and fill the 
shadows, but no more.
Any little cheapie $2 thrift shop flash will do fine.  It's all light.

Using the new light direct or diffused will depend on the application.  Waste a few 
rolls experimenting, and get a book.  Any of them.  You'll have pleanty of fun 
experimenting.

Enjoy.

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl

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Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Pearson
Subject: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?


Hi all,
I'm giving some serious thought to purchasing
Adorama's Flashpoint II 620 strobe kit.  They were
written up in this month's Pop Photo magazine.  I'm
thinking of starting with this one-light kit (w/ a
more powerful 300 w/s), as opposed to say a SP Studio
Systems 2-light kit.  My reasoning is I assume it's
better to get a more powerful strobe?  I also have a
Nikon slave flash that I was going to use as a
rear-shadow eliminator for portraits.  This is all
with the istD.
Will this work?  Is it best to fire the strobes with
the PC terminal, or via the slave from a 280 bounced
into a Lumiquest?
This will work.
I am a big fan of one light portraits.
Get a reflector for fill, guaranteed you can't mess up the lighting 
ratio.
Use an umbrella, the light is nicer than a softbox (my opinion, I 
find soft boxes to be rather hard, actually).
Fire the flash off the PC termanal, that way you won't risk buggering 
up your modelling with a flash pop from the camera position.

William Robb 




Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread Steve Pearson
I like your idea about the reflector.  What size 
color would you recommend?  Also, is there some kind
of self-standing reflector these days?  I would like
to be able to set this up on my own, and not have
somebody else to hold the reflector, iF that's
possible?

Also, I assume there are no voltage issues when using
the PC terminal with the istD?


Thanks for the suggestions!


--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve Pearson
 Subject: Help buying my first studio lighting
 equipment?
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I'm giving some serious thought to purchasing
  Adorama's Flashpoint II 620 strobe kit.  They were
  written up in this month's Pop Photo magazine. 
 I'm
  thinking of starting with this one-light kit (w/ a
  more powerful 300 w/s), as opposed to say a SP
 Studio
  Systems 2-light kit.  My reasoning is I assume
 it's
  better to get a more powerful strobe?  I also have
 a
  Nikon slave flash that I was going to use as a
  rear-shadow eliminator for portraits.  This is all
  with the istD.
 
  Will this work?  Is it best to fire the strobes
 with
  the PC terminal, or via the slave from a 280
 bounced
  into a Lumiquest?
 
 This will work.
 I am a big fan of one light portraits.
 Get a reflector for fill, guaranteed you can't mess
 up the lighting 
 ratio.
 Use an umbrella, the light is nicer than a softbox
 (my opinion, I 
 find soft boxes to be rather hard, actually).
 Fire the flash off the PC termanal, that way you
 won't risk buggering 
 up your modelling with a flash pop from the camera
 position.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
 


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Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Also, I assume there are no voltage issues when using
 the PC terminal with the istD?

Nope, works fine for me.
Here is an example studio portrait with the istD.
This is a very simple 2 light setup with 1 stop between them to
give a little dimension. I still dont like the shadow cast by the arm.
http://www.wildcherry.com.au/index.php?p=photophoto_id=14

With a single light and a reflector you can do much. I use a lastolite
white reflector with an arm that attaches to a stand that holds it in 
place. Like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=30080item=3849465532rd=1
...Not my auction, just an example ...

You can achieve much with a single light, particularly with Black and White for 
dramatic lighting. The addition of a reflector will get you started. A word of
warning, once you start buying this stuff, you will think the price of the 
*istD trivial ;)

Enjoy
Kevin
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Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Pearson
Subject: Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?


I like your idea about the reflector.  What size 
color would you recommend?  Also, is there some kind
of self-standing reflector these days?  I would like
to be able to set this up on my own, and not have
somebody else to hold the reflector, iF that's
possible?
Check out:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/IMGP5434.jpg
Caution, partially clothed girl in sensual pose alert.
Sorry, it's all I have at hand at the moment.
If you look to the right of the picture, you will see edge on the 
reflector/gobo that I made.
It's just a stand made of copper plumbing pipe with gold lamé 
stretched across it.
I use the gold side as a warm reflector, and the black side to harden 
shadows a bit.

The thing stands somewhat over 6 feet tall, and is 39 wide. I 
decided the size after buying a couple of meters of fabric and 
letting my wife (who is much nicer than I am, just ask Tom) tell me 
what she needed to make it work for me.
I built it in such a way that it can be broken down into a few 1 
meter lengths of copper tube, and I wrap the tube in the lamé for 
travel.
If I am using it outside, I stake the legs to the ground to keep it 
from travelling.
It has served me well for over a decade.
Total cost was about 30 dollars, most of which was the copper, which 
I recall was quite expensive at the time.

That shot, BTW, was done with a single 400WS light and an umbrella.
Also, I assume there are no voltage issues when using
the PC terminal with the istD?
Not that I have found so far, I've used a relatively old (more than 
20 years) Norman 2000P power pack, my somewhat newer, but still 10 
year old Photo Genies, and a  20 year old Metz 60CT2 plugged into the 
PC socket, and have taken a thousand or more pictures triggering an 
external flash, and a couple of thousand at least trying 
unsuccessfully to make the TTL behave itself.
Personally, I think the concerns about trigger voltage aren't 
warranted.


Thanks for the suggestions!
It's why I'm here...
really.
William Robb



Re: Help buying my first studio lighting equipment?

2004-10-29 Thread Caveman
William Robb wrote:
Check out:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/IMGP5434.jpg
Caution, partially clothed girl in sensual pose alert.
LOL. I just love it on TV. They put that The following movie contains 
scenes of violence, nudity, adult matters, coarse language etc etc. 
disclaimer first. Which I always read as we have some really Good Stuff 
(TM) starting right now.