Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 07:50 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Generally the 5 roll boxes are known as Pro-Packs around here, a brick is twenty rolls each in their individual boxes and all bound in plastic shrink wrap, looks like a brick :-) ...and a case is five to ten of those bricks in a cardboard box. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 10:32 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: Do NOT try to pull Portra! Pulling colour neg in general is a Really Bad Idea: the positives (minor grain improvement, lowered contrast) are outweighed by the negative (genuinely horrid colour shifts, often impossible to fully correct). But I think Shel and Frank were talking bw. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How Much Film Do You Carry
Shel Belinkoff How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. snip So, what do you carry for a typical, enjoyable day with your camera? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As always it depends on my aim for the day. I am not one to want to run out of film... I try to figure out how many rolls I honestly think I can shoot and, if it is in the order of one or two, toss in a couple more. If I think I will take more then an spare three to five will go in the main bag. The main bag is usually what stays in the car and I carry the essentials in a fanny/belt bag. How much I carry in terms of film is based on how easy it is to get back to the car. There are times I carry only one type of film, typically ASA100. I have also been known to carry up to three - ASA 100, ASA 400, and bw (either ASA 100 or 400, depending). I tend to carry them in different bodies. Multiple LXen go with me and depending on mood the MZ-S. I find that using three LX is usally a good compromise because of size. Interesting enough, with the snake skinned LXen I can tell which is which by feel alone. No need to look at them when to choose a film type :-) I tend to carry one over each shoulder with the two primes of interest. I can usually switch out lenses fairly quickly when I have to. I remember when I used to carry a zoom to avoid the hassle of changing focal lengths... So, as the answers I have seen here have shown, I tend to want to get back home with spare film that will go back into the fridge. Cesar Panama City, Florida - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
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Hi, For example, two or three identical cameras with different focal lengths loaded with identical film is an ideal method for me, as when I'm photographing I may burn an entire roll or more on just one subject, and what I need is not more film choices, but more focal lengths, perspectives, and points of view. this is pretty much the way I shoot too. I only rarely use more than one speed of film (always the same type, eg K64 and K200) and that's if I know I'll be in rapidly changing light. If I'm shooting bw I tend to use either 200 or 400; outdoors I'll use a yellow/green filter which slows the film down a bit, and taking it off indoors brings the film up to speed. Since I use a handheld meter quite a lot having different film speeds in different cameras can cause more trouble than it's worth. As for quantity, I've found about 6 rolls/day to be about right for a day dedicated to photography. For a non-dedicated day then perhaps 2 or 3 rolls. I carry far more, of course - usually at least 10 rolls. If I'm working on a commission though - eg kiddy portraits for parents - I'll agree a number of rolls with them first - usually 2, and not exceed that because of the cost implications. In a (highly recommended) book I bought recently http://www.rotovision.com/description.asp?bookid=547 the photojournalist John Downing writes When I undertake a foreign assignment I try to find out how long I'm going to be away [...] and then reckon on using 6 rolls of film a day and estimate it from there. It's a rough formula but it seems to work, because I've never run out of film to date. I usually end up shooting more like 10 rolls for the first 2 days and then become more discerning and shoot far less. My experience has been the same. I would refine his comments by saying that I calculate approximately how many *shooting* days I'll have - as opposed to travelling days - multiply by 5 or 6 and add a few for contingency. This has worked well for me and it's been a long time since I ran out of film. Another formula that somebody once told me is to calculate how many films you'll need, then double it. This is useful until you've done enough trips to know from experience what your shooting rate really is. It's always best to overestimate, of course. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Hi Bill ... Just to clarify a point, I find it too confusing to shoot with more than one speed at a time, so if using more than one body they each contain the same film. But I carry more than one speed to cover changes in the light, such as when out from morning to dusk, or even later. It's really frustrating using APX 25 after the sun goes below the horizon g William Robb wrote: I find it confusing to carry different speeds of filmG. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
I usually carry 200,400 maybe 1 800 and now maybe 1 1600.For BW i carry 1 or 2 spares of Delta 400 and or now Ilford FP4 100. For the Y-M I take 1 each of 160 Portra, 125 FP4 and i'll see what the Agfa transparancies looks like when its done.I might just carry 1-2 of that. IR i take 1 spare. Now that i have a faster 70-210 zoom(thanks Mark)i should be able to work more with 160 and 200 colour and 100 BW. Dave Dave Begin Original Message From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, what do you carry for a typical, enjoyable day with your camera? -- Shel Belinkoff Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
If I'm planning a photo hike of two or three hours, I'll take about six rolls of 120 or four rolls of 35mm. Usually, I take half BW, half color. I rarely shoot only BW, because I don't want to have to process that much film. For a quick walkaround in town, I'll take two to three rolls of 120 or two rolls of 35. For outdoor model shoots, I've been taking about ten rolls of 120 and usually shooting about six. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. As primarily a BW shooter, I rarely go out with color *and* BW, and certainly never use color in one body and BW in another - I find it gets too confusing for me. But I do go out with film of different speeds since the light may change, I may be out longer than planned, etc. Yesterday, for example, I planned to be out photographing for about four or five hours. I took eight rolls of film with ISO ratings of 25 through 1600, although I only used three rolls. This is typical for me, although it's only been recently that Fuji Neopan 1600 has found a place in the camera bag. So, what do you carry for a typical, enjoyable day with your camera? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
I'd not considered the new cameras with fast shutter speeds. Out of sight, out of mind, I guess. Most of the time I'm using cameras with a top speed of 1/1000, but rarely ever use anything faster than 1/500. New cameras have speeds of up to 1/8000 these days, don't they? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually shoot the same film as Fred. Shallow DOF is less of a problem when your lowest top sutter speed is 1/4000 sec. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How Much Film Do You Carry
I usually bring 6-10 rolls in some combination of color, bw, and ISO 200, 400 800, depending on the conditions. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Re:Different speeds in different bodies.I know have 2 K1000 and 1 SP body with 2 'slow' zooms and 1 faster zoom,the f4 70-210.I can now keep 160 or 200 in the SP with the F4 and 400 film in the K1000's with slower zooms ,and if a cloud comes by. I forgot to add i plan to try a bunch of the Provia 400f this summer to see how the jumping shots look in this venue. Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How Much Film Do You Carry
I tend to carry 3 or 4 rolls of BW, with a roll or two of colour (that I rarely, if ever use) in 35. I'll also have 3 or 4 rolls of BW 120. If I take out the Graphic, I only have four exposures (two carriers). -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
I'm at a loss to understand how you can standardize on essentially one emulsion and speed. How do you deal with a wide range of light? If it's very bright or if you're shooting at dusk, can one film speed/emulsion handle the different brightness ranges and contrasts? Doesn't using 400 speed film limit your DOF options in bright light? Good question, Shel. Well, first, I did say 95% of my shooting, and, if I'm going out with the larger camera bag, by default (or intentionally, if I know ahead of time that I might be able to use it), I usually have a couple of rolls of Kodak Gold 100 and a couple of rolls of Kodak 400CN (yes, I know, that's still ASA 400 - g) in it. I also have a few rolls of Fuji 1600 in the freezer, if needed (but only for when I'm really desperate for photons). However, I do admit to using Fuji Superia 400 film almost all the time. A lot of this has to do with most of my shooting. 400 speed works well for indoor flash shooting (mostly informal portraits on the fly) - it's f/8 and be there (only sometimes opening up the aperture for a more determined or more studied portrait). Outside, for wildlife shooting, I'd generally be using a fairly long lens, set wide open or close to it (for highest shutter speed possible), so that DOF is usually pretty meager anyway. I usually give up trying to get terrestrial wildlife shots when it starts to get dusky, and I don't spend much time trying to watch whales at night, either (Braille whale watches are none too popular - g). For macro shooting (and I'm mostly talking outdoors macro shooting), I generally am trying to close down the aperture a ways, to try to obtain as much DOF as possible, and Fuji 400 makes for a pretty good compromise between speed and print quality - I very rarely blow something up more than 8x12, say, anyway. If needed, I can usually rummage around in the bottom of one of the kit bags here to find various ND filters to use with most any of my lenses, if the light is too bright for what I want to do (which, because of the shooting I am usually doing, is not too often). Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
My name ain't Fred (And, that reminds me of a long running joke). For years I worked in the same building as another guy. Every morning, he would greet me, Hi Fred. I'd reply, Hi Mac. My name's not Max, he'd come back. That's OK, my name's not Fred, was my punch line. We did that for several years before we bothered to actually learn each others real name. Anyhow, As I said my name's not Fred, but I can answer your question. C-41 film is strange about that. If all you carried was 400 speed, you would have no problem because you would get a good printable negative from 100 to 400. Advertised film speed for C-41 films are about the maximum useable speed. You can almost always get away with a 2 stop over exposure. In fact many of us think a one stop over exposure is not an over exposure at all, but the correct film speed for general use. Further, if you are not trying to be artistic you can get a useable exposures in bright sun at 400, and of course it is usable in normal low lighting. Now, back on subject, 35mm C-41: I usually keep up to about 8 rolls (24x) of 100 in my bag, and 4 rolls (24x) of 400 speed, and just lately have added a couple rolls of 1600 (36x). By those ratios it is obvious, I think, that I tend to use the lowest speed film that will work. I don't usually use more than 2-4 rolls at a time, but like to have some available at all times, and it is cheaper in 4 packs. I do not normally keep film in my cameras. When I finish a shoot, I pull all the film and have it processed, thus next shoot I load whatever film I want to use. Since the cheap labs I have to use these days don't charge for unprintable negs that doesn't cost much extra. With the Graphic I have been using only 125 speed BW film (FP4+, or PX). I usually put 3 double holders (I have a dozen) in one coat pocket and 1/2 dozen #5 flashbulbs in the other. So far the #5 flash bulbs have given enough light for everything I have shot. If I really need more light I would have to find some #11 or larger flashbulbs. Cavers and such use some really serious flashbulbs. Unfortunately, I can not afford to get 4x5 sheet film processed right now, but in a couple of months I hope to have somewhere to do it myself. Kodak seems to be telling me I am going to have to change to Tri-X, and buy more film than I want at a time. not so happy grin. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: How Much Film Do You Carry Hi Fred ... I'm at a loss to understand how you can standardize on essentially one emulsion and speed. How do you deal with a wide range of light? If it's very bright or if you're shooting at dusk, can one film speed/emulsion handle the different brightness ranges and contrasts? Doesn't using 400 speed film limit your DOF options in bright light? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Right now, I've got the following... 1 Kodachrome 25 - 36 exp 1 Fugi 800 - 36 exp 1 Kodak Royal Gold 100 - 24 exp 4-6 Ektachrome SW200?(100?) - 36 exp which I am trying out. The camera is loaded with the SW200. Strategy varies by season and shooting situation. I'll carry a main film of 4 rolls or so and then some extras. I can go thru the 4 rolls quickly, especially at events. Regards, Bob S. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Addendum to my first post: Sometimes I only take one camera. Then I usually just have one roll in the camera and a spare roll in my pocket. I also usually stuff a second lens in a pocket too in this case. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[ How Much Film Do You Carry
I find it too confusing to shoot with more than one speed at a time, so if using more than one body they each contain the same film. Yes, but this is one advantage of having more than one body ready at any given time - one can have color film in one body and bw in the other, for example, or maybe fast film in one body and slower film in another (with a flash unit mounted on the slower body), etc. At one time, I used to sometimes carry slide film in one body and print film in the other, but I haven't shot slide film for some time now (except for occasional astrophotography use). Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
C-41 film is strange about that. If all you carried was 400 speed, you would have no problem because you would get a good printable negative from 100 to 400. Advertised film speed for C-41 films are about the maximum useable speed. You can almost always get away with a 2 stop over exposure. In fact many of us think a one stop over exposure is not an over exposure at all, but the correct film speed for general use. Further, if you are not trying to be artistic you can get a useable exposures in bright sun at 400, and of course it is usable in normal low lighting. All the above is true (or, if not, I've believed it anyway for years now, hook, line, and sinker - g). Back in the early eighties I remember reading about the exposure latitude in typical color print films, and even the suggestion that one should set the ASA on a camera to one full stop lower than rated speed. Although I have done that back then, I am also always trying to get as fast a shutter speed as I can, so I compromise a bit - I almost always set the ASA dial (for 400 color print film) at 1/3 or 2/3 stops lower than 400 (what is it, then, 320 or 260 or something?). Works for me - I think it gives me a good chance of avoiding underexposure if the metering (or my judgement) is off a bit. (Actually, when I use 'em, I do this routinely with other color print films, too - 1/3 or 2/3 stops lower than rated.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
I use a little bag just for film - a quick inventory of the current contents: Velvia - 4 rolls E100S - 6 rolls E100VS - 2 rolls E200 - 4 rolls Provia F - 2 rolls Supra 100 - 2 rolls Kodak Gold 100 - 10 rolls (24 exposure) Walgreen's house film (ISO 100) - 1 roll Royal Gold 200 - 1 roll Kodak Gold 400 - 8 rolls (24 exposure) Fuji Superia 400 - 4 rolls (24 exposure) Ilford XP 2 Super - 5 rolls Fuji 800 - 1 roll (24 exposure) Fuji 1600 - 1 roll (24 exposure) The E100S followed by VS and Velvia are my bread and butter films. I do like print film, and especially grainy print film, for some botanical work - hence the Gold 100. The Supra is for hard lighting that will exceed the latitude of slide film. I recently pulled all the traditional BW and put it back into the freezer - a temporary measure until I get some sort of home developing setup in place. Otherwise I'd have 5 or rolls of that in there too. I don;t carry all this with me - once I arrive at the scene and decide what to shoot I grab the film that seems right and head out with that, ether in a photo vest pocket, backpack, or belt bag. I mark the cannisters when I add film to the bag to keep things rotated, but I have not had problems with film going bad - I just shot out a roll of 11 month old Provia F 400 that had been stored un-refrigerated and saw no problems. - MCC At 08:28 AM 4/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. As primarily a BW shooter, I rarely go out with color *and* BW, and certainly never use color in one body and BW in another - I find it gets too confusing for me. But I do go out with film of different speeds since the light may change, I may be out longer than planned, etc. Yesterday, for example, I planned to be out photographing for about four or five hours. I took eight rolls of film with ISO ratings of 25 through 1600, although I only used three rolls. This is typical for me, although it's only been recently that Fuji Neopan 1600 has found a place in the camera bag. So, what do you carry for a typical, enjoyable day with your camera? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[ How Much Film Do You Carry
Another thing that I've taken to doing is changing rolls before they get to the end. If there are four or five or so exposures left, and there's a break in the shooting, I'll put in a fresh roll. It's really disappointing to have found a good subject and developed a rhythm, only to have to stop and reload or change camera bodies as you're reaching a peak. This is true for me, but most especially when covering an event (such as a wedding, for example). I'd rather have a pocket full of partially exposed rolls than to be caught between rolls at a critical time. Besides, film is (relatively) cheap - it's the developing that puts a dent in the wallet - so it's not worth it (to me) to try to squeeze an extra shot or two onto a roll when I could instead be comfortably ready with a fresh roll (depending on the exact circumstances, of course). Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
In local.pentax, you wrote: How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. [...] 3 36-exp. rolls should keep me going for a day. Most of the time I use Fuji Superia (ISO 200). I have an ISO 1600 roll with me just in case... -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
At least 6 rolls Velvia, 6 rolls Provia F. Never any B+W. Will push both if needed. I'll have more in car and will carry more in pack if I'll be away from the car for some time. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: How Much Film Do You Carry How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. As primarily a BW shooter, I rarely go out with color *and* BW, and certainly never use color in one body and BW in another - I find it gets too confusing for me. But I do go out with film of different speeds since the light may change, I may be out longer than planned, etc. Yesterday, for example, I planned to be out photographing for about four or five hours. I took eight rolls of film with ISO ratings of 25 through 1600, although I only used three rolls. This is typical for me, although it's only been recently that Fuji Neopan 1600 has found a place in the camera bag. So, what do you carry for a typical, enjoyable day with your camera? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I HATE the idea of running out of film. I usually buy the Fuji 4-packs and have at least 4 rolls in the bag all the time. I also have a couple rolls of Tri-X in the bag in addition to the one in my camera :) Christian said The Ritz experience (including price gouging) was lesson enough for me to be much better prepared in the future. I have also had this experience and won't be doing that again if I can help it. Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How Much Film Do You Carry
One HP5 in my MX and 4 more in the bag. Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:29 PM To: Pentax List Subject: How Much Film Do You Carry How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. As primarily a BW shooter, I rarely go out with color *and* BW, and certainly never use color in one body and BW in another - I find it gets too confusing for me. But I do go out with film of different speeds since the light may change, I may be out longer than planned, etc. Yesterday, for example, I planned to be out photographing for about four or five hours. I took eight rolls of film with ISO ratings of 25 through 1600, although I only used three rolls. This is typical for me, although it's only been recently that Fuji Neopan 1600 has found a place in the camera bag. So, what do you carry for a typical, enjoyable day with your camera? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
At 18:24 29-4-2002 -0400, frank wrote: Now that spring's here, and there are lots of colourful blossoms (finally) coming out And they just got covered with 6 inches of snow last night. What sort of land is this? Anyway, back to Shel's question. It depends where I'm going, how long I'll be out and what the weather's like. And where I'm going usually determines mostly what film I take. I'm still getting to grips with the idea that 400 asa is now considered normal and there is stuff that's 800 and 1600 that you can buy in lots of shops as a matter of course. I usually carry four rolls if I'm going out for the day, nowhere special, both 200 and 400 (at the moment). If I'm wanting to shoot black white too, then I'll take a second camera with that in. If i'm going somewhere like an agility match then I'll take fast film, and lots of it. Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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- Original Message - From: wendy beard Subject: Re: How Much Film Do You Carry At 18:24 29-4-2002 -0400, frank wrote: Now that spring's here, and there are lots of colourful blossoms (finally) coming out And they just got covered with 6 inches of snow last night. What sort of land is this? Ah, you must be in Canada. Here in sunny Saskatchewan, I have seen snow fall every month of the year. It didn't stay long in July or August though. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[ How Much Film Do You Carry
Yes Fred, it can be an advantage, although in truth it depends on one's shooting style and subject. For example, two or three identical cameras with different focal lengths loaded with identical film is an ideal method for me, as when I'm photographing I may burn an entire roll or more on just one subject, and what I need is not more film choices, but more focal lengths, perspectives, and points of view. Using identical cameras with the same film allows for seamless transition between the parameters that are most important to me and which best represent the subject that I'm photographing. Actually, now that I think of it, I've been doing something like this for years. When I work on the whale watch boats (as a naturalist), I carry two bodies, both loaded with - you guessed it - Fuji 400. Although the two bodies now are a couple of user Program A's, I also used a pair of ME Supers for this back in the 80's. One body usually has a user A 70-210/4 mounted to it, while the other usually has some sort of a longer lens on it (A* 300/4 last season, but I have some longer lenses to try on it this season). The advantage of this arrangement is the ease of changing focal lengths - I just change bodies - g. (Changing lenses on one body is not so easy to do on a boat in motion - and a boat is ~always~ in motion - g - just swapping entire rigs is a lot easier.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Good suggestion, Shel. I've never pulled film, only pushed it. I should try it once or twice, just for the fun of it! regards, frank Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Frank ... Try shooting those films at 200 EI on a bright day, and develop accordingly. You might be very pleasantly surprised at the results g. Bright days are usually high contrast days, and a red filter usually contributes to additional contrast as well. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Do NOT try to pull Portra! From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good suggestion, Shel. I've never pulled film, only pushed it. I should try it once or twice, just for the fun of it! Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Frank ... Try shooting those films at 200 EI on a bright day, and develop accordingly. You might be very pleasantly surprised at the results g. Bright days are usually high contrast days, and a red filter usually contributes to additional contrast as well. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Hi, Bob, Wasn't planning on it. Whenever I do it, it will likely be with Tri-X (or maybe HP5+). I know Tri-X is pullable (at least, so I've heard). thanks, frank Bob Blakely wrote: Do NOT try to pull Portra! -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Reminds me of the young man who was seen pulling a chain down the street. When someone asked him why he was pulling the chain he answered, Ever try to push one. On Monday 29 April 2002 09:04 pm, frank theriault wrote: Good suggestion, Shel. I've never pulled film, only pushed it. I should try it once or twice, just for the fun of it! regards, frank Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Frank ... Try shooting those films at 200 EI on a bright day, and develop accordingly. You might be very pleasantly surprised at the results g. Bright days are usually high contrast days, and a red filter usually contributes to additional contrast as well. -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Not only that but if you're carrying one speed of film make it 100 asa. I think 400 is way too fast for everyday shooting. You are losing so much colour and sharpness by using 400 speed film all the time. Try 100 asa or even some slow 50asa slide film. You'll notice a huge difference... In a message dated 4/29/02 11:19:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Fred ... I'm at a loss to understand how you can standardize on essentially one emulsion and speed. How do you deal with a wide range of light? If it's very bright or if you're shooting at dusk, can one film speed/emulsion handle the different brightness ranges and contrasts? Doesn't using 400 speed film limit your DOF options in bright light? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
Well it depends what I'm doing. When I go out for a serious shoot I'll take maybe six rolls. Mostly Velvia or a 100 asa kodak or fuji slide film and maybe a couple rolls of print film 100 to 200 asa. usually two or three camera bodies - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
