Re: Re: I see ...

2023-01-25 Thread collinb
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Re: I see ...

2023-01-25 Thread Bill

On 1/25/2023 1:38 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

Ricoh has dropped the K1 Mark II price down a couple hundo.

New model coming out, or maybe just a winter sales generation strategy?

The K1III is expected to be announced later this year.

bill
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Re: I see ...

2023-01-25 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 25.01.23 um 20:38 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:

Ricoh has dropped the K1 Mark II price down a couple hundo.


Where...?

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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Montreal has had computerized subway operation since before 1976 (it was in 
place by the 76 Olympics).

No train operators' jobs were lost. They still sit at their post with a big red 
mushroom button ready to be pushed in case an emergency stop is required. Along 
with one other train operator (who sits in the driver's compartment of the last 
car) he also operates the passenger doors.

I am sure that if Seattle or any other city implemented automatic operation of 
their subways operators would still be required as a set of eyes for 
emergencies, even if some sort of hazard sensing system were installed.

A few have mentioned how close to the platform edge some in this photo are. 
Some of Toronto's older stations have very narrow platforms. I guess they 
didn't have the foresight in the early fifties to see today's crowds. Even so, 
with one person standing against the wall there is barely room for a person to 
pass by without being on the yellow warning strip. I know I feel uncomfortable. 
When a train comes into this station and others with narrow platforms I prefer 
to stand with my back flat against the wall; not that I'm afraid of a pusher 
as much as an inadvertent bump by a passerby.

Very poor design no matter when they were made...

Thanks to all who commented and looked!

cheers,
frank



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From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com
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IMHO having computer controlled car sets would make this easy to implement.

Unfortunately, at least here in Seattle, I don't believe unionized drivers 
would give up the controls, knowing management would want to pay them less for 
working in a less dangerous environment.

So goes the world.


On Feb 24, 2013, at 20:05 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Not to difficult if all the cars run on the line, old and new, have
 the same length and
 doors in the same place on the car.  It's a matter of physical dimensions
 on the capital equipment you already own.
 
 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 [...]
 
 I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
 had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
 the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
 the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
 tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
 
 It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I
 can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.
 
 It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing
 systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some
 way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so
 they line up with the doors.
 
 I don't think it would be particularly difficult. The trains have to stop in
 more or less the same place anyway, and regulars get to know where the doors
 are.
 
 When they built the Jubilee Line extension here a few years ago they put
 platform doors on at the new stations, but the old stations still don't have
 them, so there is a mixture on the one line. For a few weeks after the new
 ones opened there was the occasional delay while they lined the trains up,
 but that was just teething trouble, presumably until they got the tolerances
 right and all the drivers fully trained.
 
 It's far more convenient than having unpredictable delays and line closures
 because some selfish sod has thrown themself in front of a train.
 
 B



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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-25 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 Montreal has had computerized subway operation since before 1976 (it
 was in place by the 76 Olympics).
 
 No train operators' jobs were lost. They still sit at their post with a
 big red mushroom button ready to be pushed in case an emergency stop is
 required. Along with one other train operator (who sits in the driver's
 compartment of the last car) he also operates the passenger doors.
 

The whole of the Docklands Light Railway here operates without drivers, and 
there really ought to be a word in the language for the feeling of 
disappointment you get when you think you're going to get to sit right at the 
front but just at the last moment some kids turn up and you really can't just 
shove them out of the way and take the seat yourself.

Anyway, the trains still have a 'train captain' whose job it is to, er, stand 
there doing not much since there's an automatic announcer, the doors unlock 
automatically when the train stops, there's no big red button (otherwise a 
passenger would sit on it). I think their main function is to make sure you 
don't take a bike on unless it is fully folded (and they won't accept that a 
non-folding bike is of necessity fully folded at all times). Ocassionally they 
wave a sensor in your general direction to make sure your electronic ticket is 
up-to-date.

Anyway again, since their job is far less skilled than a driver's job, they 
cost far less to hire and train, and the network is more or less immune from 
strikes because the 'train captains' can be sacked very cheaply.

B

 I am sure that if Seattle or any other city implemented automatic
 operation of their subways operators would still be required as a set
 of eyes for emergencies, even if some sort of hazard sensing system
 were installed.
 
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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-25 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Feb 25, 2013, at 06:08 , knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Montreal has had computerized subway operation since before 1976 (it was in 
 place by the 76 Olympics).
 
 No train operators' jobs were lost. They still sit at their post with a big 
 red mushroom button ready to be pushed in case an emergency stop is required. 
 Along with one other train operator (who sits in the driver's compartment of 
 the last car) he also operates the passenger doors.
 
 I am sure that if Seattle or any other city implemented automatic operation 
 of their subways operators would still be required as a set of eyes for 
 emergencies, even if some sort of hazard sensing system were installed.

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:11 , Bob W wrote:

 Anyway, the trains still have a 'train captain' whose job it is to, er, stand 
 there doing not much since there's an automatic announcer, the doors unlock 
 automatically when the train stops, there's no big red button (otherwise a 
 passenger would sit on it). I think their main function is to make sure you 
 don't take a bike on unless it is fully folded (and they won't accept that a 
 non-folding bike is of necessity fully folded at all times). Ocassionally 
 they wave a sensor in your general direction to make sure your electronic 
 ticket is up-to-date.
 
 Anyway again, since their job is far less skilled than a driver's job, they 
 cost far less to hire and train, and the network is more or less immune from 
 strikes because the 'train captains' can be sacked very cheaply.

A few years ago Seattle built and implemented a Light Rail system at great 
expense. Decades ago they built a tunnel through downtown with 5 or 6 stops, 
but the money for rail traffic never materialized. It therefore became the Bus 
Tunnel with ventilation inadequate for the fumes from the diesel buses. So 
they bought a fleet of hybrid buses that could power through the tunnel on 
electric power, but not enough of them. They then upgraded the ventilation 
within the tunnel to cope with the many diesel buses still needed for the rider 
traffic. All this time they were using Electric Buses called Trolleys above 
on the regular streets.

Then they closed the tunnel for two years to tear out the original tracks for 
light rail and regrade them because they were the wrong gauge, and the wrong 
height from the cars to the platforms.

Finally finished the light rail system downtown several years ago with design 
promises to reach out to the suburbs north, south, and east of Seattle. That 
has been set aside as too expensive at this time.

Developers were willing to spend big bucks to buy the land the city had been 
using to house and maintain an antique rail trolley running from the historic 
Pioneer Square district over to and down the waterfront and back for tourists 
so they could see all the cool places they could spend money. Without the barn, 
there was no place to maintain the old trolleys, so they modified several old 
buses to 'look like' they were trolleys to handle the load of tourists, 
especially since they now were docking dozens of cruise ships a season with 
millions to spend.

Next they built a short line light rail from downtown to South Lake Union, 
promising developers foot traffic if they would invest in replacing much of the 
old commercial area with new shiny apartments and shops. There went our Pro 
camera shop and custom processing labs.

For decades the downtown businesses had been taxed as a subsidy to provide free 
bus fare in the core downtown area to encourage shoppers to park elsewhere, 
preventing overcrowding. When that only partially worked, giving the homeless a 
place to sleep and allowing them to travel all over the area for free, they 
last year did away with the service, charging everyone everywhere. Without the 
incentive to shop downtown with free mobility, business dropped off some. Then 
they tried to kill it altogether by placing new digital parking meters 
throughout downtown, raising the parking rates to cover the costs. These meters 
also notified the meter maids and men when a meter expired, so the chances of a 
big old fine rose considerably.

Then came the 2008 financial crisis.

And I moved well outside of the city to the rural setting I now enjoy. 

I have seen Seattle several times in the past 5 years as I drove past it. For 
$12.00 I can avoid that by taking the ferry to my sister's instead of driving 
the long way around.

The promise to link the light rail up to the northern areas of Puget Sound is 
pretty much dead, though maps can still be found. Doesn't look like Seattle and 
Tacoma will be linked at the airport as planned, though Seattle's portion of 
that system now reaches the airport.

And, all the operators of all the systems are still 100% union.

Joseph McAllister
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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread David Mann
On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 
 You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
 first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
 push them out onto the tracks.
 
 
 When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
 behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
 happen accidentally.

I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they had fully 
enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where the train stops 
(imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been the series about great 
cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not 
sure.

It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.

Cheers,
Dave


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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann
 
  When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around
  and behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded
  platform it could happen accidentally.
 
 I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
 had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where the
 train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been the
 series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something tells
 me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
 
 It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
 

the Moscow underground is like that. In London the Jubilee Line from
Waterloo to Stratford (including my station at North Greenwich) is like that
too, but it's the most recent addition to the network.

B


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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann


On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms

You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
push them out onto the tracks.



When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
happen accidentally.


I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.

It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.

Cheers,
Dave


The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I 
can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.


It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing 
systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some 
way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so they 
line up with the doors.


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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
[...]
 
  I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
  had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
  the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
  the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
  tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
 
  It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
 
  Cheers,
  Dave
 
 The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I
 can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.
 
 It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing
 systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some
 way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so
 they line up with the doors.

I don't think it would be particularly difficult. The trains have to stop in
more or less the same place anyway, and regulars get to know where the doors
are. 

When they built the Jubilee Line extension here a few years ago they put
platform doors on at the new stations, but the old stations still don't have
them, so there is a mixture on the one line. For a few weeks after the new
ones opened there was the occasional delay while they lined the trains up,
but that was just teething trouble, presumably until they got the tolerances
right and all the drivers fully trained. 

It's far more convenient than having unpredictable delays and line closures
because some selfish sod has thrown themself in front of a train.

B


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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread Kenneth Waller

I've seen that concept at several airports that use rail to shuttle you from 
one terminal to another.

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From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 
 You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
 first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
 push them out onto the tracks.
 
 
 When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
 behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
 happen accidentally.

I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they had fully 
enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where the train stops 
(imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been the series about great 
cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something tells me it was Tokyo but I'm 
not sure.

It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.

Cheers,
Dave



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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Not to difficult if all the cars run on the line, old and new, have
the same length and
doors in the same place on the car.  It's a matter of physical dimensions
on the capital equipment you already own.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 [...]
 
  I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
  had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
  the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
  the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
  tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
 
  It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
 
  Cheers,
  Dave

 The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I
 can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.

 It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing
 systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some
 way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so
 they line up with the doors.

 I don't think it would be particularly difficult. The trains have to stop in
 more or less the same place anyway, and regulars get to know where the doors
 are.

 When they built the Jubilee Line extension here a few years ago they put
 platform doors on at the new stations, but the old stations still don't have
 them, so there is a mixture on the one line. For a few weeks after the new
 ones opened there was the occasional delay while they lined the trains up,
 but that was just teething trouble, presumably until they got the tolerances
 right and all the drivers fully trained.

 It's far more convenient than having unpredictable delays and line closures
 because some selfish sod has thrown themself in front of a train.

 B


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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
IMHO having computer controlled car sets would make this easy to implement.

Unfortunately, at least here in Seattle, I don't believe unionized drivers 
would give up the controls, knowing management would want to pay them less for 
working in a less dangerous environment.

So goes the world.


On Feb 24, 2013, at 20:05 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Not to difficult if all the cars run on the line, old and new, have
 the same length and
 doors in the same place on the car.  It's a matter of physical dimensions
 on the capital equipment you already own.
 
 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 [...]
 
 I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
 had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
 the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
 the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
 tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
 
 It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I
 can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.
 
 It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing
 systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some
 way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so
 they line up with the doors.
 
 I don't think it would be particularly difficult. The trains have to stop in
 more or less the same place anyway, and regulars get to know where the doors
 are.
 
 When they built the Jubilee Line extension here a few years ago they put
 platform doors on at the new stations, but the old stations still don't have
 them, so there is a mixture on the one line. For a few weeks after the new
 ones opened there was the occasional delay while they lined the trains up,
 but that was just teething trouble, presumably until they got the tolerances
 right and all the drivers fully trained.
 
 It's far more convenient than having unpredictable delays and line closures
 because some selfish sod has thrown themself in front of a train.
 
 B



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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-24 Thread David Mann
On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:40 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I can't 
 remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.

That's it - Hong Kong was the episode where I saw them.

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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
Given the New Yorkers proclivity for pushing folks onto the rails as the train 
arrives, I would have an entirely different feeling of anticipation!!

Nice shot though Knarf…

The guy/gal with the long hair is a messenger, I bet!


On Feb 22, 2013, at 18:13 , Larry Colen wrote:

 
 Subway train, that is:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
 
 Nice feeling of anticipation.  But due to the location, it should be titled:
 I see the Train Coming, Eh.



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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-23 Thread John Sessoms

You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
push them out onto the tracks.

From: Joseph McAllister

Given the New Yorkers proclivity for pushing folks onto the rails as
the train arrives, I would have an entirely different feeling of
anticipation!!

Nice shot though Knarf?

The guy/gal with the long hair is a messenger, I bet!

On Feb 22, 2013, at 18:13 , Larry Colen wrote:


Subway train, that is:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.


Nice feeling of anticipation.  But due to the location, it should be titled:
I see the Train Coming, Eh.





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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Scary - but then I live in New York.

I stand in the stairwell until the train stops these days

ann

On 2/22/2013 21:05, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Subway train, that is:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-23 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 
 You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
 first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
 push them out onto the tracks.
 

When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
happen accidentally.

B



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PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subway train, that is:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

2013-02-22 Thread Larry Colen

 Subway train, that is:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Nice feeling of anticipation.  But due to the location, it should be titled:
I see the Train Coming, Eh.


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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track thanks

2011-03-21 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Ann. I'd guess the trains in your area are passenger carriers 
whereas ours are all freight. Forty years ago the Chicago Northwestern 
ran passenger trains on these same tracks. You could go from Sioux City 
Iowa to Chicago for $30.00.


RE: the buildings. I started a series on old bars. They are disappearing 
faster than old barns.






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I'm a great fan of trains -- so I like it fine :-)

Also like the buildings on St Pats day.

ann

Don Guthrie wrote:


 I finally got an angle I liked on the local CN locomotive. Comments
 from train picture haters or lovers always welcome.

 http://donspix.posterous.com/



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I See The Train Acommin Down The Track crop.

2011-03-21 Thread Don Guthrie


Thanks Jack. I mostly had to crop out some overhead wires. I was using a 
18-200 zoom so I was pretty tight already.






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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track Message-ID: 
821337.64825...@web130122.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nicely 
cropped, Don! Jack --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
 Subject: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:51 PM
 I finally got an angle I liked on the
 local CN locomotive. Comments from train picture haters or
 lovers always welcome.

 http://donspix.posterous.com/


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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track

2011-03-21 Thread Don Guthrie


Thanks for looking Walt. I think you would like it  I'd love to see 
your eye on them.





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Great shot, Don!

I wish I lived closer to an operating railroad.  I think I'd enjoy
capturing trains, myself!

-- Walt

On 3/18/2011 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

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 http://donspix.posterous.com/



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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track

2011-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
I love trains, and i own CN stock, so I love it.

Dave

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I See The Train Acommin Down The Track

2011-03-18 Thread Don Guthrie
I finally got an angle I liked on the local CN locomotive. Comments from 
train picture haters or lovers always welcome.


http://donspix.posterous.com/

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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track

2011-03-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I'm a great fan of trains -- so I like it fine :-)

Also like the buildings on St Pats day.

ann

Don Guthrie wrote:

I finally got an angle I liked on the local CN locomotive. Comments 
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http://donspix.posterous.com/





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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track

2011-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
Nicely cropped, Don!

Jack

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 local CN locomotive. Comments from train picture haters or
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Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track

2011-03-18 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Great shot, Don!

I wish I lived closer to an operating railroad.  I think I'd enjoy 
capturing trains, myself!


-- Walt

On 3/18/2011 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
I finally got an angle I liked on the local CN locomotive. Comments 
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http://donspix.posterous.com/




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PESO -- I see you.

2008-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Went for a short hike this afternoon, this deer crossed the trail about 
200 yards away.  (I had to crop about 1/3 out to get this).

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20iseeyou.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Great shot.

Though after having seen a number of pictures from K20D I tend to think 
that ISO 100 is a thing of a past. Only older cameras and their 
respective users would take a shot at such low ISO ;-).

No offense, no pun, just a mild irony.

Boris


David Savage wrote:
 G'day Trend Setters,
 
 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm
 
 As always any  all comments welcome
 
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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-07 Thread Adam Maas
One of the oddities of my D300 is that I shoot much more at low ISO's
than I ever did with my older bodies. I suspect some of this has to do
with the really nifty Auto ISO on the Nikon (You set max ISO and the
minimum shutter speed you want it do maintain, set the camera to the
minimum ISO you want and let it do the thinking, works VERY well,
better than the K10D's already good Auto ISO).

I've probably taken more ISO 200 shots on the D300 than I did on my
K10D  *istDS combined.

I do need to try out ISO 100 on it though.

-Adam

On 3/7/08, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great shot.

  Though after having seen a number of pictures from K20D I tend to think
  that ISO 100 is a thing of a past. Only older cameras and their
  respective users would take a shot at such low ISO ;-).

  No offense, no pun, just a mild irony.


  Boris



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   G'day Trend Setters,
  
   Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
   with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)
  
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm
  
   As always any  all comments welcome
  
   Cheers,
  
   Dave
  


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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-03 Thread David J Brooks
Very good catch.

Love her expression.

Yes i fear Mom and Dad might be a tad ticked.:-)

Dave

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 G'day Trend Setters,

  Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
  with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

  As always any  all comments welcome

  Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-03 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day Trend Setters,

  Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
  with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

  As always any  all comments welcome


 GREAT shot!  What lens?  Love that creamy smooth bokeh!
 
 cheers,
 frank

It's the little ones who are the observant ones...

And that little one looks like she needs a little more sleep!

Great shot, David!

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-03 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 3, 2008, at 14:18, frank theriault wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 G'day Trend Setters,

 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

 As always any  all comments welcome

 GREAT shot!  What lens?  Love that creamy smooth bokeh!


Bottom of the frame states:

Pentax K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f2.8, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day Trend Setters,

  Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
  with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

  As always any  all comments welcome

GREAT shot!  What lens?  Love that creamy smooth bokeh!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-03 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Bottom of the frame states:

  Pentax K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f2.8, ISO 800


Well.

That would 'splain the lovely bokeh then, eh?

;-)

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PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread David Savage
G'day Trend Setters,

Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

As always any  all comments welcome

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
Lovely picture and nice that you can do that.
US parent can get pretty paranoid.
Try taking pictures with a big camera in a MickeyD's playland.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:23 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day Trend Setters,

 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
Cute pix - how'd you get the kid to stay still for so long??

;}

-p

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 G'day Trend Setters,
 
 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm
 
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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good catch and a nice rendering.
Paul
On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:23 AM, David Savage wrote:

 G'day Trend Setters,

 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

 As always any  all comments welcome

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread David Savage
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cute pix

Thank you.

 - how'd you get the kid to stay still for so long??

Errr...whoops... :-)

Thanks, page has been updated

Cheers,

Dave


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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread David Savage
I expect I would have received some dirty looks from mum  dad if they
had noticed.

But the way that they were seated only the 2 little ones saw me ;-)

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,

Dave

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave,
  Lovely picture and nice that you can do that.
  US parent can get pretty paranoid.
  Try taking pictures with a big camera in a MickeyD's playland.
  Regards,  Bob S.



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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread David Savage
Thanks Paul.

Cheers,

Dave

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 Good catch and a nice rendering.
  Paul


 On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:23 AM, David Savage wrote:
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Re: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Hey there Dave:  Very sweet photo with a cute little hobbit foot underneath 
the table!  Cheers, Christine


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 G'day Trend Setters,

 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

 As always any  all comments welcome

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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Jack Davis
Cute shot with an appealing point. Well seen.
Clean 800 ISO shadows.

Jack
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 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm
 
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Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Cotty
On 3/3/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

G'day Trend Setters,

Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm

As always any  all comments welcome


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Re: Peekaboo, I See You

2008-03-02 Thread Ken Waller
Cute, but I'm drawn to the OOF lady on the left. Maybe less of her !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You


 G'day Trend Setters,
 
 Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game
 with a little kid, took a picture  thought I'd share (~140kb)
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm
 
 As always any  all comments welcome
 
 Cheers,
 
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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-21 Thread Bob Blakely
I can see that one. (Nice!)

Regards,
Bob...
-Original Message-
William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely

 The PUG.

Bob, the only reason I can think of is that for some reason you are being
blocked at the server level by some sort of permissions protocol.
There hasn't been any major changes in the PUG coding for several years,
it's pretty plain jane HTML.
Try forcing a deep link to see if you can get the images unlinked from the
html.

http://pug.komkon.org/07mar/palubw.jpg

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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-19 Thread Bob Blakely
The PUG.

Regards,
Bob...
-Original Message-
Brian Walters


Is Bob referring to the Pentax Photo Gallery (on the Pentax USA site) or
PDML's Pentax User Gallery?

If it's the Pentax Photo Gallery at:
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/index-flash.jsp?

then I think  it's necessary to have the Flash Plug-in installed for
whatever web browser is being used.

If its the PUG at:
http://www.pug.komkon.org/

then I don't know as that's a fairly standard HTML page.



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Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Blakely
Subject: RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?


 The PUG.

Bob, the only reason I can think of is that for some reason you are being 
blocked at the server level by some sort of permissions protocol.
There hasn't been any major changes in the PUG coding for several years, 
it's pretty plain jane HTML.
Try forcing a deep link to see if you can get the images unlinked from the 
html.

http://pug.komkon.org/07mar/palubw.jpg


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Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Bob Blakely
Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?

Regards,
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Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Your glasses are fogged?
On Mar 18, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Bob Blakely wrote:

 Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?

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Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
I give up, why can't you? ;-))

Jack
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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Bob Blakely
I assume no one else has or has ever had this problem, so no help can be
found here.

Regards,
Bob...

-Original Message-
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?

I give up, why can't you? ;-))

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Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Blakely wrote:

Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?

Perhaps your browser's Flash plug-in is an outdated version?


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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Fiso_PENTAX
Hello Bob,

 I assume no one else has or has ever had this problem, so no help can be
 found here.
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
  
Check your browser or firewall settings for 'blocking ad-windows' or
something similar. I had this problem with Agnitum Outpost, unchecked
the 100X100 image format blocking and so on..., OK after that.

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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Bob
Make sure you have the latest flash player installed or get it at
http://www.adobe.com/de/downloads/.
Delete your temporary internet files -- extras -- internet options in
IE6/7 or delete the cache in Netscape/Firefox.
Disable any popup/ad blockers for that Gallery site like Norton Internet
Security, IE7 or other content filters/firewalls.

maybe that helps?
greetings
Markus


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I assume no one else has or has ever had this problem, so no help can be
found here.

Regards,
Bob...

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Subject: Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?

I give up, why can't you? ;-))

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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
Bob,
While I have no idea why you're not able to bring up the Pentax
Gallery, maybe I should have been more sensitive to your frustration.

Sorry,

Jack 
--- Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I assume no one else has or has ever had this problem, so no help can
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 Regards,
 Bob...
 
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 I give up, why can't you? ;-))
 
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RE: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread Brian Walters
Is Bob referring to the Pentax Photo Gallery (on the Pentax USA site) or PDML's 
Pentax User Gallery?

If it's the Pentax Photo Gallery at:
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/index-flash.jsp?

then I think  it's necessary to have the Flash Plug-in installed for whatever 
web browser is being used.

If its the PUG at:
http://www.pug.komkon.org/

then I don't know as that's a fairly standard HTML page.


Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Bob,
 While I have no idea why you're not able to bring up the Pentax
 Gallery, maybe I should have been more sensitive to your
 frustration.
 
 Sorry,
 
 Jack 
 --- Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I assume no one else has or has ever had this problem, so no help
 can
  be
  found here.
  
  Regards,
  Bob...
  
  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails 
 Photos?
  
  I give up, why can't you? ;-))
  
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Re: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails Photos?

2007-03-18 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Blakely 
Subject: Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?


 Why can't I see Pentax User Gallery Thumbnails  Photos?
 

Is it the PUG or the upstart gallery that Pentax is running?

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Did I see Cotty?

2003-07-20 Thread Bill Owens
Was that bald guy with the video camera that I saw at the end of the British
Open Cotty?

Bill




Re: Did I see Cotty?

2003-07-20 Thread Bill Owens
I thought it wasn't you, but there was a tall, bald guy with a video camera
next to Ben Curtis after it was definite that he had won.  Couldn't tell if
the had an attitude though :-)

Bill


 Was that bald guy with the video camera that I saw at the end of the
British
 Open Cotty?
 
 Bill

 ROTFLMAO.

 Hell no - I'm no bald guy with a video camera! I'm a bald guy with a
 video camera and attitude!

 Out of our patch I'm afraid. I was trodding much more morose ground as I
 retraced the steps taken by weapons inspector and scientist Dr Kelly
 during his last hours of life as he took his own in a remote woodland in
 Oxfordshire. It was kinda spooky in there, nobody else about. Just a few
 general shots of the forest for the news. Very sad.

 On Weds and Thurs I was up at the Royal International Air Tattoo on press
 days, and Friday morning Silverstone for an interview with Eddie Jordan
 and some links with the sports presenter. I've done golf a few times but
 it's hell carrying all the gear from hole to hole. The only tee I like
 comes in a pot. Early Grey. Hot :-)




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I see umlauts ...

2001-09-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

... everywhere.   :)

Collin

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Re: I see umlauts ...

2001-09-07 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri,
07 Sep 2001 07:15:32 -0500
Read it? y
... everywhere.   :)

They don't know they're umlauts?

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Re: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)

2001-03-18 Thread Bob Blakely

I don't know anything about different materials having been used. I have
four pristine LX's and one that is "highly brassed" There are a few very
light scratches on it, but every corner and edge has the finish completely
and smoothly worn off almost to the point one might think it was constructed
that way. I obtained the camera without a finder, so the finder is new. The
worn places are the color of brass, the color of the brass door knobs in my
house. I assumed all LX's looked this way with the finish worn off. The main
body and frame (underneath the leatherette) is a gray metal color. This is
my telescope camera and has no strap or grip.

My other cameras have a washer of very thin leather under the strap
attachments (left side - all save the brassed one have "Grip B") to help
them remain pristine. My first LX (purchased used) came this way and I
thought it a good idea.

Regards,
Bob...

Give blood. Play hockey.

From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Interesting. On my - early - LX the so called "brassing" is not brass
coloured but on the top of the body a grey colour shows through and under
the left side strap lugs the colour is bright silver. Has there been a
change of materials, then?
 All the best!
 Raimo
 Personal photography homepage at
http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

 -Alkuperinen viesti-
 Lhettj: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.

 Regards,
 Bob...

 From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Brass? If it really was brass, it was not a LX because they are made of
an
 aluminium alloy that is grey.
  All the best!
  Raimo


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Re: Vs: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)

2001-03-18 Thread Todd Stanley


I believe it's aluminium.  Aluminium oxidizes fairly quickly, so it will
soon turn from shiny silver to dull gray when exposed to air.  I would
guess that by the strap lug it's constantly rubbing up against the metal
and scraping off the oxidized aluminium.

Todd

At 11:16 AM 3/18/01 +0100, you wrote:
Interesting. On my - early - LX the so called "brassing" is not brass
coloured but on the top of the body a grey colour shows through and under
the left side strap lugs the colour is bright silver. Has there been a
change of materials, then? 
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at
http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperinen viesti-
Lhettj: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]


When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.

Regards,
Bob...


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Vs: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)

2001-03-18 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Looks like there has been a change of materials - at least the finish. Time for 
research for our gurus.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperinen viesti-
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Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Piv: 18. maaliskuuta 2001 16:35
Aihe: Re: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)


I don't know anything about different materials having been used. I have
four pristine LX's and one that is "highly brassed" There are a few very
light scratches on it, but every corner and edge has the finish completely
and smoothly worn off almost to the point one might think it was constructed
that way. I obtained the camera without a finder, so the finder is new. The
worn places are the color of brass, the color of the brass door knobs in my
house. I assumed all LX's looked this way with the finish worn off. The main
body and frame (underneath the leatherette) is a gray metal color. This is
my telescope camera and has no strap or grip.

My other cameras have a washer of very thin leather under the strap
attachments (left side - all save the brassed one have "Grip B") to help
them remain pristine. My first LX (purchased used) came this way and I
thought it a good idea.

Regards,
Bob...

Give blood. Play hockey.

From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Interesting. On my - early - LX the so called "brassing" is not brass
coloured but on the top of the body a grey colour shows through and under
the left side strap lugs the colour is bright silver. Has there been a
change of materials, then?
 All the best!
 Raimo
 Personal photography homepage at
http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

 -Alkuperinen viesti-
 Lhettj: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.

 Regards,
 Bob...

 From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Brass? If it really was brass, it was not a LX because they are made of
an
 aluminium alloy that is grey.
  All the best!
  Raimo


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RE: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)

2001-03-18 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

I just pulled out my original LX (any excuse to handle it is a good
one) and under the black is the born-grey plating/primer (??)  and this sits
atop the shiny metal - that shows through in quite a few places.  This
camera shows good scars from when I got it back in February 1985.

Just my little input,

Csar
Panama City, Florida



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 From: Raimo Korhonen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:16 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Vs: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)
 
 Interesting. On my - early - LX the so called "brassing" is not brass
 coloured but on the top of the body a grey colour shows through and under
 the left side strap lugs the colour is bright silver. Has there been a
 change of materials, then? 
 All the best!
 Raimo
 Personal photography homepage at
 http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
 
 -Alkuperinen viesti-
 Lhettj: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
 plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Brass? If it really was brass, it was not a LX because they are made of
 an
 aluminium alloy that is grey.
  All the best!
  Raimo
  Personal photography homepage at
 http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
 
  Lhettj: Clive Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  snipwell-worn (yellowed Pentax lettering on the prism and a lot of
 brass
  showing round the self-timer lever) but it just felt so _nice_!
 
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RE: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)

2001-03-18 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

OOPS!  I meant to write brown-grey.

I think the antihistimine is finally kicking in...

Csar Matamoros II
Panama City, Florida


 -Original Message-
 From: Matamoros, Cesar A. 
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:04 PM
 To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject:  RE: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)
 
   I just pulled out my original LX (any excuse to handle it is a good
 one) and under the black is the born-grey plating/primer (??)  and this
 sits
 atop the shiny metal - that shows through in quite a few places.  This
 camera shows good scars from when I got it back in February 1985.
 
   Just my little input,
 
   Csar
   Panama City, Florida
 
   
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Raimo Korhonen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:16 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Vs: now I see. (was LX is BACK...)
  
  Interesting. On my - early - LX the so called "brassing" is not brass
  coloured but on the top of the body a grey colour shows through and
 under
  the left side strap lugs the colour is bright silver. Has there been a
  change of materials, then? 
  All the best!
  Raimo
  Personal photography homepage at
  http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
  
  -Alkuperinen viesti-
  Lhettj: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
  plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.
  
  Regards,
  Bob...
  
  From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Brass? If it really was brass, it was not a LX because they are made
 of
  an
  aluminium alloy that is grey.
   All the best!
   Raimo
   Personal photography homepage at
  http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
  
   Lhettj: Clive Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   snipwell-worn (yellowed Pentax lettering on the prism and a lot of
  brass
   showing round the self-timer lever) but it just felt so _nice_!
  
 
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LX: now I see. (was LX is BACK.. woohoo -slurp-)

2001-03-17 Thread Clive Williams

I handled an LX for the first time this morning and I'm beginning to
understand why people here like them so much.  It seemed old and was
well-worn (yellowed Pentax lettering on the prism and a lot of brass
showing round the self-timer lever) but it just felt so _nice_!  I
didn't check to see what finder it had, but I was amazed by the clarity
of the view.  They want about GBP200 (USD 290ish) for it.  I'm tempted,
but wary of its age and possible history. Any thoughts?

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Re: now I see. (was LX is BACK.. woohoo -slurp-)

2001-03-17 Thread Bob Blakely

When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.

Regards,
Bob...

Give blood. Play hockey.

From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Brass? If it really was brass, it was not a LX because they are made of an
aluminium alloy that is grey.
 All the best!
 Raimo
 Personal photography homepage at
http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

 Lhettj: Clive Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 snipwell-worn (yellowed Pentax lettering on the prism and a lot of brass
 showing round the self-timer lever) but it just felt so _nice_!


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Re: now I see. (was LX is BACK.. woohoo -slurp-)

2001-03-17 Thread Rob Studdert

On 17 Mar 2001, at 15:18, Bob Blakely wrote:

 When the black wears off, what's underneath is brass colored. I suspect
 plating to more readily accept a more permanent black coat.

The top of the mutli-function lever button is fabricated from brass and wears 
to reveal brass (the paint has a habit of peeling from these), the top panels 
are fabricated from aluminium and wear to reveal silver coloured aluminium.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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