Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Was this on Halloween?

Are there any Aliens going to school there?

(sorry, can't resist)

ann

John Sessoms wrote:


From: Charles Robinson


On Nov 5, 2010, at 8:59, eckinator wrote:


 probably the red and blue pixels weren't fully charged yet - did you
 use a fresh battery? also was this a bw or color SD card?



(I guess I forgot which list I was posting this to).  :-)



He may not be that far off. The first image looks like only the pixels 
from the sensor's green sites were recorded.


Did I understand correctly that the second image was taken without the 
flash; that you took an image with flash which corrected the problem?


And after the flash image, you were then able to record a normal image 
without the flash?


Digital cameras are essentially a sensor  a tiny computer. I think 
you had a problem with the tiny computer inside the camera. Or else 
the sensor is getting ready to flake out on you.







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Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Charles Robinson
I wanted to take some pictures of a new wall unit I'd finished installing in 
the dining room.  I decided to light it up with the internal (halogen) lights 
and do a long exposure on a tripod so everything would come out crisp.

Set up the K7 on a tripod, into Av mode with the aperture cranked down to 
f/11... took a shot and the preview was entirely GREEN (this image is from the 
processed RAW file - which was obviously no less green).

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6544.jpg

This is just a 4-8 second exposure under tungsten lighting.  Shouldn't be green.

I took about 7 or 8 images which all came out the same way.  Turning the camera 
off and on between exposures... scratching my head

Finally I popped up the BIF, took a quick shot which looked normal.

Back onto the tripod, it worked perfectly:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6548.jpg

So.. what the HECK was going on there?  This was a freshly-formatted card with 
a fully-charged battery.  Confusing to say the least.

 -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread eckinator
probably the red and blue pixels weren't fully charged yet - did you
use a fresh battery? also was this a bw or color SD card?

2010/11/5 Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com:
 I wanted to take some pictures of a new wall unit I'd finished installing in 
 the dining room.  I decided to light it up with the internal (halogen) lights 
 and do a long exposure on a tripod so everything would come out crisp.

 Set up the K7 on a tripod, into Av mode with the aperture cranked down to 
 f/11... took a shot and the preview was entirely GREEN (this image is from 
 the processed RAW file - which was obviously no less green).

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6544.jpg

 This is just a 4-8 second exposure under tungsten lighting.  Shouldn't be 
 green.

 I took about 7 or 8 images which all came out the same way.  Turning the 
 camera off and on between exposures... scratching my head

 Finally I popped up the BIF, took a quick shot which looked normal.

 Back onto the tripod, it worked perfectly:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6548.jpg

 So.. what the HECK was going on there?  This was a freshly-formatted card 
 with a fully-charged battery.  Confusing to say the least.

  -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 5, 2010, at 8:59, eckinator wrote:

 probably the red and blue pixels weren't fully charged yet - did you
 use a fresh battery? also was this a bw or color SD card?
 

(I guess I forgot which list I was posting this to).  :-)

 -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread George Sinos
Did you check your white balance setting?

Popping up the flash changes the WB to the flash setting, so it would look fine.

Turning off the flash reverts the WB to where it was previously set.

So, If for some reason, your WB was off, or Auto WB was giving you
strange results, that would be consistent with what you describe.

gs

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On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 I wanted to take some pictures of a new wall unit I'd finished installing in 
 the dining room.  I decided to light it up with the internal (halogen) lights 
 and do a long exposure on a tripod so everything would come out crisp.

 Set up the K7 on a tripod, into Av mode with the aperture cranked down to 
 f/11... took a shot and the preview was entirely GREEN (this image is from 
 the processed RAW file - which was obviously no less green).

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6544.jpg

 This is just a 4-8 second exposure under tungsten lighting.  Shouldn't be 
 green.

 I took about 7 or 8 images which all came out the same way.  Turning the 
 camera off and on between exposures... scratching my head

 Finally I popped up the BIF, took a quick shot which looked normal.

 Back onto the tripod, it worked perfectly:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6548.jpg

 So.. what the HECK was going on there?  This was a freshly-formatted card 
 with a fully-charged battery.  Confusing to say the least.

  -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Jack Davis
Also, fluorescent lighting produced a green cast on many films, so could that 
have been sneaking in somehow.(?)

Jack

--- On Fri, 11/5/10, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 7:05 AM
 Did you check your white balance
 setting?
 
 Popping up the flash changes the WB to the flash setting,
 so it would look fine.
 
 Turning off the flash reverts the WB to where it was
 previously set.
 
 So, If for some reason, your WB was off, or Auto WB was
 giving you
 strange results, that would be consistent with what you
 describe.
 
 gs
 
 George Sinos
 
 gsi...@gmail.com
 www.georgesphotos.net
 
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com
 wrote:
  I wanted to take some pictures of a new wall unit I'd
 finished installing in the dining room.  I decided to light
 it up with the internal (halogen) lights and do a long
 exposure on a tripod so everything would come out crisp.
 
  Set up the K7 on a tripod, into Av mode with the
 aperture cranked down to f/11... took a shot and the preview
 was entirely GREEN (this image is from the processed RAW
 file - which was obviously no less green).
 
  http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6544.jpg
 
  This is just a 4-8 second exposure under tungsten
 lighting.  Shouldn't be green.
 
  I took about 7 or 8 images which all came out the same
 way.  Turning the camera off and on between exposures...
 scratching my head
 
  Finally I popped up the BIF, took a quick shot which
 looked normal.
 
  Back onto the tripod, it worked perfectly:
 
  http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6548.jpg
 
  So.. what the HECK was going on there?  This was a
 freshly-formatted card with a fully-charged battery.
  Confusing to say the least.
 
   -Charles
 
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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:05, George Sinos wrote:

 Did you check your white balance setting?
 

AUTO - and shooting in RAW mode.

 Popping up the flash changes the WB to the flash setting, so it would look 
 fine.

Actually, the custom menu setting I have says that the white-balance while 
using flash should be left at Auto - which shouldn't have changed anything. 
(which is the default setting)

Setting it manually (thinking it would affect the preview image, even if not 
the RAW file) to Tungsten balance made no difference.  The shot I posted 
might even have been with the tungsten setting.

 -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:09, Jack Davis wrote:

 Also, fluorescent lighting produced a green cast on many films, so could that 
 have been sneaking in somehow.(?)
 

The only light in the entire room was the halogens inside the cabinets.  It was 
about 9:15 at night so no other lighting was in the room at all..

 -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson


On Nov 5, 2010, at 8:59, eckinator wrote:


 probably the red and blue pixels weren't fully charged yet - did you
 use a fresh battery? also was this a bw or color SD card?


(I guess I forgot which list I was posting this to).  :-)



He may not be that far off. The first image looks like only the pixels 
from the sensor's green sites were recorded.


Did I understand correctly that the second image was taken without the 
flash; that you took an image with flash which corrected the problem?


And after the flash image, you were then able to record a normal image 
without the flash?


Digital cameras are essentially a sensor  a tiny computer. I think you 
had a problem with the tiny computer inside the camera. Or else the 
sensor is getting ready to flake out on you.


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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:09, Jack Davis wrote:

 Also, fluorescent lighting produced a green cast on many films, so could 
 that have been sneaking in somehow.(?)


 The only light in the entire room was the halogens inside the cabinets.  It 
 was about 9:15 at night so no other lighting was in the room at all..

Try using a fixed white balance setting. I don't know what the color
temperature and spectral balance of those halogens coupled with the
translucent material of the wall unit might be, but they're sure
fooling the camera's AWB setting.

Of course, if you're capturing raw format, white balance means almost
nothing. Just correct it in Lightroom.
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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 5, 2010, at 10:56, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 He may not be that far off. The first image looks like only the pixels from 
 the sensor's green sites were recorded.
 
 Did I understand correctly that the second image was taken without the flash; 
 that you took an image with flash which corrected the problem?
 

Yes.

 And after the flash image, you were then able to record a normal image 
 without the flash?
 

Yes.

 Digital cameras are essentially a sensor  a tiny computer. I think you had a 
 problem with the tiny computer inside the camera. Or else the sensor is 
 getting ready to flake out on you.
 

Aieee!  Hope not.  Thanks everyone.

The histogram in LR3 shows some blue and red, but precious little.  
Completely uncorrectable in LR3.  

I guess if it never happens again, I won't worry about it.

 -Charles

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread eckinator
2010/11/5 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:

  probably the red and blue pixels weren't fully charged yet - did you
  use a fresh battery? also was this a bw or color SD card?

 He may not be that far off. The first image looks like only the pixels from
 the sensor's green sites were recorded.

I was actually more than half serious because you can clearly see only
the green channel was recorded so it must have been either sensitivity
or readout. hope it doesn't come back. but it does fit in nicely with
the Vampire Camera theme ]=)

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Re: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?

2010-11-05 Thread Christine Aguila
I think I'm losing my mind.  You posted this today.  Why did I think you 
posted this a few days ago?  Sheesh!  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:56 AM
Subject: Images with K7 coming out entirely GREEN - WTH?


I wanted to take some pictures of a new wall unit I'd finished installing 
in the dining room.  I decided to light it up with the internal (halogen) 
lights and do a long exposure on a tripod so everything would come out 
crisp.


Set up the K7 on a tripod, into Av mode with the aperture cranked down to 
f/11... took a shot and the preview was entirely GREEN (this image is from 
the processed RAW file - which was obviously no less green).


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6544.jpg

This is just a 4-8 second exposure under tungsten lighting.  Shouldn't be 
green.


I took about 7 or 8 images which all came out the same way.  Turning the 
camera off and on between exposures... scratching my head


Finally I popped up the BIF, took a quick shot which looked normal.

Back onto the tripod, it worked perfectly:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6548.jpg

So.. what the HECK was going on there?  This was a freshly-formatted card 
with a fully-charged battery.  Confusing to say the least.


-Charles

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