Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)
From the BBC: [He is reported to have made less than $10,000 (£5,300) from what is widely considered to be one of the most famous photographs of the war. And I was gratified to get that, the San Francisco Chronicle quotes him as saying in a 1995 interview. Every once in a while someone teases me that I could have been rich. But I'm alive. A lot of the men who were there are not. And a lot of them were badly wounded. I was not. And so I don't have the feeling someone owes me for this. ] Norm - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94) Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima died yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)
A noble statement that stands in stark contrast to the capitalist society we've become. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:02:28 -0400 From the BBC: [He is reported to have made less than $10,000 (£5,300) from what is widely considered to be one of the most famous photographs of the war. And I was gratified to get that, the San Francisco Chronicle quotes him as saying in a 1995 interview. Every once in a while someone teases me that I could have been rich. But I'm alive. A lot of the men who were there are not. And a lot of them were badly wounded. I was not. And so I don't have the feeling someone owes me for this. ] Norm - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94) Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima died yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)
In the obit in the NY times it mentioned something I had forgotten that the men that raised the flag in real life recreated the act in the classic John Wayne movie, The Sands of Iwa Jima I have a distant connection with Ira Hayes, the Pima indian who was one of the raisers of the flag - I met Peter LaFarge in 1960 - who wrote The Ballad of Ira Hayes when I was married to his cousin. The song is sometimes eroneously credited to Kris Kristofesen (I think I just butchered that spelling) Like Ira Hayes, Peter's drinking probably killed him. The Times obit didn't mention anything about the money Rosenthal didn't or did get. ann Bob Sullivan wrote: John, A nice article today quoted him as saying it was spontaneous, ...just swung the camera over in time to catch the shot. And citing the confusion about it as being spontaneous or staged as partly his fault. He didn't see the film he took until some two weeks later and thought people were refering to a later photo of grinning Marines. The obituary pointed out that the movie camera man he was standing next to had the exact same shot on motion picture film. (He was killed a few days later.) ...Second US flag raised on Mt. Surabatchi that day (at least). The US commander thought the first flag was not big enough to be seen by those fighting below. This was one of the latest and most deadly encounters in the Pacific campaign. We lost 6,000+ Marines and the Japanese Defense Force lost 20,000+. Dark times. Regards, Bob S. On 8/21/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima died yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)
Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima died yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)
John, A nice article today quoted him as saying it was spontaneous, ...just swung the camera over in time to catch the shot. And citing the confusion about it as being spontaneous or staged as partly his fault. He didn't see the film he took until some two weeks later and thought people were refering to a later photo of grinning Marines. The obituary pointed out that the movie camera man he was standing next to had the exact same shot on motion picture film. (He was killed a few days later.) ...Second US flag raised on Mt. Surabatchi that day (at least). The US commander thought the first flag was not big enough to be seen by those fighting below. This was one of the latest and most deadly encounters in the Pacific campaign. We lost 6,000+ Marines and the Japanese Defense Force lost 20,000+. Dark times. Regards, Bob S. On 8/21/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima died yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)
Not a recreation. It was a replacement flag, larger than the first. Read Flags of Our Fathers for a good look at the events leading up to The Photograph, and the aftermath. It was written by a man whose father was one of those in the photo. On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM, John Francis wrote: Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima died yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
