Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
There's a video posted by Pentax USA too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCHdsZI88g From the motions it seems to me the content is quite similar. Jostein 2009/5/22 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. The reviewer also mentions that this new micro lens design makes it work better with film lenses and it allows for wider range of angles of falling light. 2. The picture modes (or whatever is the name) can now be fine tuned for separate contrast rendition in bright and dark areas. 3. They mention that this camera is set to compete face to face (or hmmm, lens mount to lens mount) with Nikon D300, Canon EOS 50D, Sony Alpha 700 and Olympus E-3. 4. All in all, consider that instead of reading through numerous pages of DPReview review (all the description stuff, not testing) you got it presented to you by someone in front of a video camera. Perhaps if I look at it half dozen times I'd notice more details that might have been omitted in the web based texts, but in general - this is yet another description of the new camera. Having seen that video that Cotty shown I as well might wanna buy this one. I do want to shoot short videos in general and short videos of my girls in particular. Cheers. Boris P.S. I know for the fact that I am not the only Russian speaker on the list. Perhaps others may contribute given their perspective on all this... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. Really? I thought everyone was working towards smaller pixels? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
he's reffering to the actual light sensitive area per pixel, higher efficiency, less screen door effect. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:22 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. Really? I thought everyone was working towards smaller pixels? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein 2009/5/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. Really? I thought everyone was working towards smaller pixels? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein Increasing the _effective_ area of each pixel? 2009/5/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. Really? I thought everyone was working towards smaller pixels? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, the effective area. Right. Mike you ought to stop being so pedantic ;-) Boris mike wilson wrote: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein Increasing the _effective_ area of each pixel? 2009/5/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. Really? I thought everyone was working towards smaller pixels? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, the effective area. Right. Mike you ought to stop being so pedantic ;-) It's a national trait. 8-) But I was and am still curious to see what is going on at pixel level and wasn't sure precisely what you meant. Boris mike wilson wrote: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein Increasing the _effective_ area of each pixel? 2009/5/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. Really? I thought everyone was working towards smaller pixels? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Mike you ought to stop being so pedantic ;-) It's a national trait. 8-) No this deserves a MARK -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:20:42AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. The reviewer also mentions that this new micro lens design makes it work better with film lenses and it allows for wider range of angles of falling light. I'm having deja vu here: http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/digital/slr/k20d/feature.html -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org http://mattdm.org/ The Definitive Pentax P-TTL Flash Model Guide: http://pttl.mattdm.org/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You can do the same refinements a number of times but eventually you reach a point of diminishing returns. Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:20:42AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. The reviewer also mentions that this new micro lens design makes it work better with film lenses and it allows for wider range of angles of falling light. I'm having deja vu here: http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/digital/slr/k20d/feature.html -- -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
Same as sizing up the sensor. Bigger is always better but somehow it becomes unpractical ... Which is to say either slution are valid until proven inefficient. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: You can do the same refinements a number of times but eventually you reach a point of diminishing returns. Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:20:42AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. The reviewer also mentions that this new micro lens design makes it work better with film lenses and it allows for wider range of angles of falling light. I'm having deja vu here: http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/digital/slr/k20d/feature.html -- -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. so quiet it didn't even register... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Do you know if the wireless remote shutter release can be stored in the grip as on the K20D? I would miss that feature. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. so quiet it didn't even register... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not anymore :( On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Do you know if the wireless remote shutter release can be stored in the grip as on the K20D? I would miss that feature. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. so quiet it didn't even register... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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According to a post on the DPReview forums, there is not enough space in the D-BG4 for the remote, no matter what batteries are being used. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:38:21PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you know if the wireless remote shutter release can be stored in the grip as on the K20D? I would miss that feature. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The guy's Spanish is really really accented I think :) Nice sound. I'm thinking about a K7, to replace my K10D. I'm not sure I need it though--been using the M8 mostly lately, and only use the K10D with the 12-24 when I need a wide angle. I'd get this camera for the possibility of shooting video on a big sensor. But I'm also looking at the Panasonic G1HD, which might be better for my shooting style. Decisions... j On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein 2009/5/21 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. that guy's face is as expressive as a Gerry Anderson character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNkEa5EjQE The camera is very loud compared to an E-1. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. that guy's face is as expressive as a Gerry Anderson character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNkEa5EjQE The camera is very loud compared to an E-1. But not as loud as C4. Dave Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't notice a bit difference between the two cameras, other than the fact that the K7 is shooting more frames per second. But I don't care about noise for the most part. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Bob W wrote: Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. that guy's face is as expressive as a Gerry Anderson character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNkEa5EjQE The camera is very loud compared to an E-1. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG
LOL. I thought that witnessing us talk in several days taught you the difference ;-). It is Russian ;-). Boris Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in spanish (but we dont care in this case) where you can hear K20D and K-7 shutter/mirror sound. Yes the K-7 is a lot better damped. And btw, DNG is now compressed. SD card can be stored in the DBG4 when you chose battery. If you chose the AA tray you lose the SD card storage. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. The reviewer also mentions that this new micro lens design makes it work better with film lenses and it allows for wider range of angles of falling light. 2. The picture modes (or whatever is the name) can now be fine tuned for separate contrast rendition in bright and dark areas. 3. They mention that this camera is set to compete face to face (or hmmm, lens mount to lens mount) with Nikon D300, Canon EOS 50D, Sony Alpha 700 and Olympus E-3. 4. All in all, consider that instead of reading through numerous pages of DPReview review (all the description stuff, not testing) you got it presented to you by someone in front of a video camera. Perhaps if I look at it half dozen times I'd notice more details that might have been omitted in the web based texts, but in general - this is yet another description of the new camera. Having seen that video that Cotty shown I as well might wanna buy this one. I do want to shoot short videos in general and short videos of my girls in particular. Cheers. Boris P.S. I know for the fact that I am not the only Russian speaker on the list. Perhaps others may contribute given their perspective on all this... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
