Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:25:34 -0600, William Robb wrote - Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera is spot-on. Are there really any benefits to checking focus with other lenses if one lens with very shallow DOF shows accurate results? If there are, I'm very curious as to why that is. Check with short lenses, they have less depth of focus (which is different from depth of field). William Robb In theory it would make sense to test the K10D with a lens in the 28mm-35mm range then as indeed you did using the 31mm Ltd rather than going to either extreme. I'm thinking FA 35/2 at the widest aperture and then try FA 28/2.8 with maybe a test using 18mm and 135mm to see what difference is apparent. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:32:06 -0600, William Robb wrote So, on Lawrences recommendation, I went and fiddled with the AF offset, and decided that at distance, the camera now had some front focus issues. A few tweaks later, and now I have neutral focus at distance, but the camera will now have some back focus, though not as much as when I started, at close focus. William Robb Sounds like a right can of worms, I think I'll test and see just how far out it is. I find some lenses are better than others and flouresent lighting doesn't seem to help. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
I'v been reading these AF tweaking posts closly, and have to agree with Godfrey. I'm not going to do anything to my K10D. It seem crisp enough with the 16-45(better that with the istD)and 50-200. Besides i can screw up a light bulb replacement, so it was a givin.:-) Dave On 3/17/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After seeing all the hubbub with this stuff on DPReview.com, I decided to leave my camera alone and do the fw 1.11 update. The AF is close enough and produces excellent results. If I really need critical focusing, I focus manually and use a focusing magnifier. It only makes sense if I'm using a tripod anyway. G On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:32 PM, William Robb wrote: So, on Lawrences recommendation, I went and fiddled with the AF offset, and decided that at distance, the camera now had some front focus issues. A few tweaks later, and now I have neutral focus at distance, but the camera will now have some back focus, though not as much as when I started, at close focus. I also have been reminded just how very good the FA31mm is at f/8. It is one kick ass lens. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I'v been reading these AF tweaking posts closly, and have to agree with Godfrey. I'm not going to do anything to my K10D. It seem crisp enough with the 16-45(better that with the istD)and 50-200. Besides i can screw up a light bulb replacement, so it was a givin.:-) Normally, I'm not this geeky either, but I had a little extra time on my hands. You know what they say about idle hands. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
You stop that right now young man or you'll go blind. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I'v been reading these AF tweaking posts closly, and have to agree with Godfrey. I'm not going to do anything to my K10D. It seem crisp enough with the 16-45(better that with the istD)and 50-200. Besides i can screw up a light bulb replacement, so it was a givin.:-) Normally, I'm not this geeky either, but I had a little extra time on my hands. You know what they say about idle hands. William Robb -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera is spot-on. Are there really any benefits to checking focus with other lenses if one lens with very shallow DOF shows accurate results? If there are, I'm very curious as to why that is. Thanks, John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On 3/18/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. I donated a dollar to Jerry;s Squids the other day. Dave Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera is spot-on. Are there really any benefits to checking focus with other lenses if one lens with very shallow DOF shows accurate results? If there are, I'm very curious as to why that is. Thanks, John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera is spot-on. Are there really any benefits to checking focus with other lenses if one lens with very shallow DOF shows accurate results? If there are, I'm very curious as to why that is. Check with short lenses, they have less depth of focus (which is different from depth of field). William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:25:34 -0600, William Robb wrote - Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera is spot-on. Are there really any benefits to checking focus with other lenses if one lens with very shallow DOF shows accurate results? If there are, I'm very curious as to why that is. Check with short lenses, they have less depth of focus (which is different from depth of field). William Robb WTF is depth of focus? John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
John Whittingham wrote: WTF is depth of focus? Depth of focus is the behind the lens analogue of depth of field. Whereas depth of field is the depth of the plane of focus in front of the lens (where the subject of your photograph is), depth of focus is the depth of the plane *inside* the camera in which acceptable focus is achieved. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. There have been some criticism about the above chart using a 45 degree angle method. I have no idea whether those criticism were valid, and some claim that this would introduce errors and force FF or BF. Another chart http://www.geocities.jp/pen_pen_pentax/focus/ was claimed to be better as the focus target was vertical. I would also like to know if these test charts were better or should we use real life objects. Another word of caution is the lighting. Users have noticed variation whether you are using daylight or tungsten light. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:27:24 -0400 (EDT), Lawrence Kwan wrote On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. There have been some criticism about the above chart using a 45 degree angle method. I have no idea whether those criticism were valid, and some claim that this would introduce errors and force FF or BF. Another chart http://www.geocities.jp/pen_pen_pentax/focus/ was claimed to be better as the focus target was vertical. I would also like to know if these test charts were better or should we use real life objects. Another word of caution is the lighting. Users have noticed variation whether you are using daylight or tungsten light. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- Ah, now that's the chart I have that I mistakenly thought William was using. I'm very curious now, focus shifting between 14mm and 31mm, I think my K10D may get seriously interfered with in the not to distant future. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
William, I did not follow the whole thread but some at DpReview managed to hack the header of the firmware allowing one to downgrade from 1.11 to 1.10 (in fact 1.10 with hacked header) and then official 1.10 firmware. One may like or dislike the method but thought I should mention the possibility. I did sent that to the list a couple days ago but maybe it didn't make it to the list. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
Hi Bill, On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600, William Robb wrote: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera. Now my camera's AF focuses better. Interestingly, I could see no difference on the screen, but a big difference in the sharpness of the pictures. Did anyone else check their cameras? Not yet, need to invest some into it :-) Did it a year ago with the *istD, but no means of correcting then. It was off a little on the 50mm 1.4 and the FA* 85 ... And if so, what were your results? I'm thinking I won't upgrade my firmware on this camera, in order to maintain access to the debug mode. That is what I will do too ... Did you test with different lenses ? If so, was there a large spread in needed correction ? I would assume testing with fast glass is best ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. There have been some criticism about the above chart using a 45 degree angle method. I have no idea whether those criticism were valid, and some claim that this would introduce errors and force FF or BF. Another chart http://www.geocities.jp/pen_pen_pentax/focus/ was claimed to be better as the focus target was vertical. I would also like to know if these test charts were better or should we use real life objects. Another word of caution is the lighting. Users have noticed variation whether you are using daylight or tungsten light. I read the fellow's paper (for the life of me, I don't recall his name), and he took quite a bit of effort to debunk the naysayers. Pretty much, it came down to the camera not knowing or caring if the test chart is on an angle, since it is only being asked to focus on a discrete line on the page. I used diffuse daylight. If the light spectrum makes a difference, then one should run these sorts of tests in the light type used most often. My own thought on that is people who don't know how to run a test shouldn't be running tests. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode William, I did not follow the whole thread but some at DpReview managed to hack the header of the firmware allowing one to downgrade from 1.11 to 1.10 (in fact 1.10 with hacked header) and then official 1.10 firmware. One may like or dislike the method but thought I should mention the possibility. I did sent that to the list a couple days ago but maybe it didn't make it to the list. I saw that, but decided that it wasn't for me. I won't upgrade to 1.11 until I see a pressing need to do so. I don't do trailing curtain sync or many multiple exposures, and iirc, that was the major fix in 1.11. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: John Whittingham Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode Ah, now that's the chart I have that I mistakenly thought William was using. I'm very curious now, focus shifting between 14mm and 31mm, I think my K10D may get seriously interfered with in the not to distant future. Initially, I used the 31, and got it looking good, then switched to the 14, and discovered the error was still there, so I adjusted until the 14 was good, and restested the 31, which was also still good. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
For anyone interested, here is a link to the focus chart and instructions that I used. http://www.focustestchart.com/chart.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: Jan van Wijk Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I would assume testing with fast glass is best ... I'll be hauling the 50/1.4 out today William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: Initially, I used the 31, and got it looking good, then switched to the 14, and discovered the error was still there, so I adjusted until the 14 was good, and restested the 31, which was also still good. Have you checked whether your adjustment has affected the focus at infinity or at a distance? Someone who dialed in some large offset got some side effects: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=22474864 Something to keep in mind. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode Initially, I used the 31, and got it looking good, then switched to the 14, and discovered the error was still there, so I adjusted until the 14 was good, and restested the 31, which was also still good. Have you checked whether your adjustment has affected the focus at infinity or at a distance? Someone who dialed in some large offset got some side effects: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=22474864 Thanks for the heads up. It does look like I created a bit of front focus at long distance. I'm thinking that finding a best compromise is going to be what I need to do. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
So, on Lawrences recommendation, I went and fiddled with the AF offset, and decided that at distance, the camera now had some front focus issues. A few tweaks later, and now I have neutral focus at distance, but the camera will now have some back focus, though not as much as when I started, at close focus. I also have been reminded just how very good the FA31mm is at f/8. It is one kick ass lens. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
After seeing all the hubbub with this stuff on DPReview.com, I decided to leave my camera alone and do the fw 1.11 update. The AF is close enough and produces excellent results. If I really need critical focusing, I focus manually and use a focusing magnifier. It only makes sense if I'm using a tripod anyway. G On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:32 PM, William Robb wrote: So, on Lawrences recommendation, I went and fiddled with the AF offset, and decided that at distance, the camera now had some front focus issues. A few tweaks later, and now I have neutral focus at distance, but the camera will now have some back focus, though not as much as when I started, at close focus. I also have been reminded just how very good the FA31mm is at f/8. It is one kick ass lens. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10 Debug Mode
Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera. Now my camera's AF focuses better. Interestingly, I could see no difference on the screen, but a big difference in the sharpness of the pictures. Did anyone else check their cameras? And if so, what were your results? I'm thinking I won't upgrade my firmware on this camera, in order to maintain access to the debug mode. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10 Debug Mode
Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable, sad that it comes that way... out of calibration so to speak. Is the focus adjusted at just one distance from the focal plane or is it done at varying distances? Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10 Debug Mode Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600 Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera. Now my camera's AF focuses better. Interestingly, I could see no difference on the screen, but a big difference in the sharpness of the pictures. Did anyone else check their cameras? And if so, what were your results? I'm thinking I won't upgrade my firmware on this camera, in order to maintain access to the debug mode. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600, William Robb wrote Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera. Now my camera's AF focuses better. Interestingly, I could see no difference on the screen, but a big difference in the sharpness of the pictures. Did anyone else check their cameras? And if so, what were your results? I'm thinking I won't upgrade my firmware on this camera, in order to maintain access to the debug mode. William Robb Hi William I was thinking of doing the same myself but haven't got round to it, life got in the way 8) Did you use a wide angle lens as suggested by some? Or did you check various focul lengths for accuracy? John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: John Whittingham Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600, William Robb wrote Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera. Now my camera's AF focuses better. Interestingly, I could see no difference on the screen, but a big difference in the sharpness of the pictures. Did anyone else check their cameras? And if so, what were your results? I'm thinking I won't upgrade my firmware on this camera, in order to maintain access to the debug mode. I was thinking of doing the same myself but haven't got round to it, life got in the way 8) Did you use a wide angle lens as suggested by some? Or did you check various focul lengths for accuracy? I used a 31mm. Haven't checked it with other lenses yet. In theory, it shouldn't matter what lens or distance is used, but as often happens, theory and practicality don't mesh, so I will be doing some more checking tomorrow. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
I appear to have missed something. Does the updated firmware lack the calibration mode? --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: K10 Debug Mode Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable, sad that it comes that way... out of calibration so to speak. Is the focus adjusted at just one distance from the focal plane or is it done at varying distances? I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: K10 Debug Mode Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable, sad that it comes that way... out of calibration so to speak. Is the focus adjusted at just one distance from the focal plane or is it done at varying distances? I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
William Robb wrote: [...] as often happens, theory and practicality don't mesh, so I will be doing some more checking tomorrow. What's the difference between theory and practice? In theory, there's no difference. In practice, there is. :-) Got that one from a somewhat philosophical comp sci instructor many years ago. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I appear to have missed something. Does the updated firmware lack the calibration mode? It doesn't necessarrily lack it, but they changed the way you get to it to prevent people from accessing it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
Ok, it's still light enough here that I was able to do some more testing. I put the 14/2.8 on the camera and did a focus test with it. Totally out of whack, though in the same direction as I was moving with the 31mm. So, I did another adjust until the 14 looked good, and tried again with the 31. The 31 looks perfect as well. I'll do some general photography tomorrow and see how things look in the real world, but I am confident I just raised the resolution of my camera significantly. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
Just out of curiosity which way was it out + or -? Cheers, Dave On 3/17/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, it's still light enough here that I was able to do some more testing. I put the 14/2.8 on the camera and did a focus test with it. Totally out of whack, though in the same direction as I was moving with the 31mm. So, I did another adjust until the 14 looked good, and tried again with the 31. The 31 looks perfect as well. I'll do some general photography tomorrow and see how things look in the real world, but I am confident I just raised the resolution of my camera significantly. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode Just out of curiosity which way was it out + or -? It was out on the - side. I made a rather large + correction, 180 um to get it to where I was happy. It's funny, I've not thought this camera was doing as well as it should, based on the quality of lenses that I use. It would be interesting to know what Pentax feels is a permissable AF offset amount is before one starts doing mechanical adjustments to the AF sensor position. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10 Debug Mode
You are correct. Rick Womer wrote: I appear to have missed something. Does the updated firmware lack the calibration mode? --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: K10 Debug Mode Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable, sad that it comes that way... out of calibration so to speak. Is the focus adjusted at just one distance from the focal plane or is it done at varying distances? I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
