Re: KX (was: Re: Pentax MX)
From a 1979 special number of Chasseur d'Images. Total number of cameras surveyed: about 15,000 ModelAB C D N*k*n f 9 78 0,7 0,37 pentax kx 10 32 0,7 1,30 N*k*n el26 24 1,8 0,63 leica all 20 129 2,4 1,10 C*n*n f113 42 2,6 0,47 pentax sp5/1000 24 111 2,9 0,53 N*k*n ft42 120 3,0 0,20 C*nt*x rts 17 16 4,2 0,20 N*k*n f213 32 4,4 1,27 K*n*c* tn3 20 50 4,5 0,17 Etc... Almost 100 models or groups of models. A: Number of cameras returned per 100 cameras. Note: Older cameras have more chance to have been returned more frequently (than newer cameras). So this number does not tell us a lot about toughness. But readers gave the number of months they have had the camera (column B) and the number of photographs taken with their camera. A somewhat meaningfull measure of toughness is then possible (column C). B: Average age of camera (months). C: Number of returns (for service) per 100,000 clicks (rounded to .1) Average for all cameras is 16,6 (not 11 as I reported earlier) D: Share (%) of all cameras own by readers. If you multiply this % by approx. 15,000, you get, for example, that 56 Nikon F and 195 Pentax KX have been considered in the survey. Models with less than 25 cameras surveyed are grouped (i.e. all leica, all topcon, all mamiya etc.) Global results (average number of returns per 100,000) for a few brands: N*k*n 7 Pentax9,6 Ol*mp*s 15,8 K*n*c* 15,8 F*j*c* 15,8 AVERAGE 16,6 M*n*lt* 17,5 Pr*kt*c* 28,7 There are many comments in the text (for example, most common types of repairs are mentionned for many models). Also average cost of repair and average delay (not interesting as it relates to one country and back then). I seriously doubt the survey's methodology. If not knowing numbers which they wouldn't know (number of total cameras in use of that particular type compared to defect ones), it's meaningless. The methodology itself seems OK. If we believe that these 15000 cameras behaved in a typical way... but it's not a question of believing... Is 15,000 enough? Is the margin of error too high? Andre Or did they use different methodology? Please dig out the article, so we can be sure :) Frantisek P.S.: thanks! Thursday, July 11, 2002, 5:43:55 AM, andre wrote: a The KX was found to be as tough as N*k*n F in a huge survey made by a Chasseur d'Image in... 1979 if I remember. I have the issue a somewhere and will post the results if I can find it. a N*k*n F had 0,69 breakdown every 100,000 shots a Pentax KX had 0,70 a I just found a file with the first ones: a N*k*n f,69 a pentax kx,70 a N*k*n el2 1,8 a L**c* all 2,4 a C*n*n f1 2,6 a pentax sp51000 2,9 a N*k*n ft 3,0 a C*nt*x rts 4,2 a N*k*n f2 4,4 a K*n*c* tn3 4,5 a Average of all cameras reported (by thousands of readers) is around 11. a Andre -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KX (was: Re: Pentax MX)
Although I don't doubt the toughness of KX (it's based on spotmatic after all!), I seriously doubt the survey's methodology. If not knowing numbers which they wouldn't know (number of total cameras in use of that particular type compared to defect ones), it's meaningless. Or did they use different methodology? Please dig out the article, so we can be sure :) Frantisek P.S.: thanks! Thursday, July 11, 2002, 5:43:55 AM, andre wrote: a The KX was found to be as tough as N*k*n F in a huge survey made by a Chasseur d'Image in... 1979 if I remember. I have the issue a somewhere and will post the results if I can find it. a N*k*n F had 0,69 breakdown every 100,000 shots a Pentax KX had 0,70 a I just found a file with the first ones: a N*k*n f,69 a pentax kx,70 a N*k*n el2 1,8 a L**c* all 2,4 a C*n*n f1 2,6 a pentax sp51000 2,9 a N*k*n ft 3,0 a C*nt*x rts 4,2 a N*k*n f2 4,4 a K*n*c* tn3 4,5 a Average of all cameras reported (by thousands of readers) is around 11. a Andre Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
KX (was: Re: Pentax MX)
Francis Alviar wrote: Now where are those reviews for the Pentax KX... Francis, I'm one of the members of the unofficial KX Fan Club. Have you checked the PDML archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/ ? There were quite a few positive postings about the KX several months ago--around February, as I recall. The KX and K2 are been said to be the only K-series body built to SpotMatic standards. If it could take the LX/MX screens, it would be my perfect manual-exposure body. The shutter release is so light that I sometimes take a shot when I didn't intend to. But I'm willing to pay that price to get such a light touch. The Ricoh XR-1 is quite similar in size, feel, specs, and operation, but adds a split-prism diagonal rengefinder. The XR-2 and 2s add an aperture-preferred autoexposure mode. However, on the Ricohs, the only way to get MLU is to use the mechanical timer. A light touch causes me to waste a number of shots on my Ricoh XR-2s, too, by the way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KX (was: Re: Pentax MX)
You are right, Paul. The KX was a sleeper. I refused to even look at the Ks when they came out as I felt that I had been abandoned by Pentax with my large assortment of screwmount gear. I have acquired one and it has replaced the MX as a backup for the LX. I just love the way it handles and feels!!! Bob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm one of the members of the unofficial KX Fan Club. Have you checked the PDML archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/ ? There were quite a few positive postings about the KX several months ago--around February, as I recall. The KX and K2 are been said to be the only K-series body built to SpotMatic standards. If it could take the LX/MX screens, it would be my perfect manual-exposure body. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .