Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-31 Thread Cotty

I would bet it is pretty dry in your house. That causes a lot of static on
the slide that holds the dust in place like a magnet. My experience is that
when the humidity is 60% or so the dust pretty much blows off with
compressed air. Short of humidifying the house you might try one of those
anti-static gizmos, there used to be several on the market.

Hey, I'm not saying it's dusty in our house, but we have a cat that 
sleeps on the neg scanner...

;-)

Cotty

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Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-31 Thread Cotty

 How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
 before you scan them?

Two words: Clone Tool

I final rinse my negs in Daz...;-)

Seriously, I use a rubber dust blower to get as much crapola off the neg 
as possible, then scan, then the Rubber Stamp (Clone) Tool to get those 
hard-to-get bits off (usually from the corners). Laborious, but mandatory.

Another reason why I'm waiting for the MZ-D!

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RE: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-31 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

You are not alone.

Frits Wüthrich

Cotty wrote:
 Another reason why I'm waiting for the MZ-D!
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Re: Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-31 Thread c_skofteland

Thanks everyone.  I will have to re-think my office at home.  I bet most of the dust 
comes from the carpet.  Maybe an ionizer and a humidifier will help to keep it down.  
I'll also be looking for the various fluids and potions that were mentioned.

As for the clone tool.  I do it for the huge obvious stuff but honestly I've been too 
lazy to take out every spot.  I'll be changing my mind on that as well.

Thanks again

Christian
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Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-31 Thread Kenneth Waller

What has worked well for me, to remove dust from the slide - I simply use a
bulb blower on the slide before it is scanned, I hold the slide horizontally
and blow on the bottom and the flip the slide over and do the other side. I
do a bunch at a time and then store the slides in plastic slide boxes that
are also blown clean with the bulb blower. Most of the time this gets rid of
all the dust specs. My scans are still inspected @ 100% to check for spots,
but this has almost eliminated the need for using the rubber stamp tool. My
slides are scanned by a comercial outfit. It sounds like your problem may
also be with the scanner.
Ken Waller

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Subject: RE: More on cleaning slides/negatives


Christian Skofteland asked:
 Ok, I know we've covered this in the past but I'm going to ask again (and
 pay attention to the answers this time!):

 How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
 before you scan them?

 I've been trying to catch up on scanning slides with my new/used HP
 PhotoSmart scanner.   I've been using compressed air and anti-static wipes
 on both the slides and the scanner itself but I'm still
 frustrated with all
 the crap that shows up on the final scan.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 Christian Skofteland
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More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-30 Thread Christian Skofteland

Ok, I know we've covered this in the past but I'm going to ask again (and
pay attention to the answers this time!):

How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
before you scan them?

I've been trying to catch up on scanning slides with my new/used HP
PhotoSmart scanner.   I've been using compressed air and anti-static wipes
on both the slides and the scanner itself but I'm still frustrated with all
the crap that shows up on the final scan.

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Christian Skofteland
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Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-30 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.

PEC-12 cleaning fluid applied sparingly with PEC Pads.

Maris

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Subject: More on cleaning slides/negatives


| Ok, I know we've covered this in the past but I'm going to ask again (and
| pay attention to the answers this time!):
| 
| How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
| before you scan them?
| 
| I've been trying to catch up on scanning slides with my new/used HP
| PhotoSmart scanner.   I've been using compressed air and anti-static wipes
| on both the slides and the scanner itself but I'm still frustrated with all
| the crap that shows up on the final scan.
| 
| Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
| 
| Christian Skofteland
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Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert

On 30 Dec 2001 at 16:15, Christian Skofteland wrote:

 Ok, I know we've covered this in the past but I'm going to ask again (and
 pay attention to the answers this time!):
 
 How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
 before you scan them?

Hi Christian,

There are a few issues to consider WRT to your question, they are pertinent to 
both conventional printing and digital scanning (however scanning seems more 
sensitized to dust etc.)

Firstly you will be chasing your tail if the room that you are working in is 
not clean ie it has to be regularly dusted and/or vacuum cleaned. Some photogs 
I know of even employ active filters and/or positive Ion generators to further 
reduce airborne dust and contaminants.

The ultimate film cleaner that I found is from a company called Dycem, it 
consists of two opposing sticky rollers that the film is passed through along 
with an earthed anti-static brush across the film at the exit. The dust gets 
stuck on the rollers (which can be easily cleaned) and the brush neutralizes 
the charge on the film so that new dust is not immediately attracted to it. (I 
can't remember the URL but I have a pic.)

The unfortunate thing is that this gear was really expensive (I don't remember 
just how much but I was glad that I was sitting down when I read the price :-)

I thought that it was a good idea so I made a dodgy copy of it. I found some 
Taiwanese sticky lint removers made of what I guess was a similar material and 
have been using them with some success. BTW they just wash out in mild 
detergent, it's really weird rubbery stuff?

I also have some really good water based foaming anti-static cleaner (VDU-99 
from CRC Industries) that cleans and makes my work areas anti-static, this 
helps.

Compressed Air (or Nitrogen) can make things a lot easier too, a quick spray 
before the film goes into the scanner ensures that all but sticky dust is 
removed from the film surface. Again though if the room is not clean this can 
serve to just stir up the dust and make more problems.

I have a small bottle of nitrogen, a regulator (Oxygen), 10m of hose and a gun 
style fitting, I use this set-up to clean my film, scanners, cameras and lenses 
too. The cost of the hardware was under US$55 and I just rent the bottle.

I hope that this helps :-)

Just one more reason to love digital cameras.

Cheers,
Rob Studdert
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Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-30 Thread Juan J. Buhler

 How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
 before you scan them?

Two words: Clone Tool

The scan doesn't have to be perfect dust-wise. I use a can of air to get big
particles out, and try to do as good as possible with that. Then I use
Photoshop's clone tool to digitally remove any specs of dust. Set the view to
1:1 and scroll around the whole image.

A Wacom tablet or similar makes the process very easy. I'm using a small
Wacom Graphire that costs $90 or so and comes with Photoshop LE.

It is a bit of work, but you have to do it only once per negative, as opposed
to a real darkroom, where you have to deal with dust once per print (I had a
bad experience with a particularly dusty darkroom setup, I realize dust is
something that can be controlled without much hassle, but I'm still
frustrated about it)

Hth,

j


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RE: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-30 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

What I do is this: I took a blower brush, removed the brush (it simply
slides off, easy to put back on again) and I blow the strip of negatives or
mounted slides (whatever I am scanning at that moment) after I have put them
in the scanning holder. Sometimes the scan result is so that I redo this
cleaning to remove a particle that escaped the first treatment, but usually
this is not needed. I also used a can with compressed air, but it just
doesn't last very long, and with the UK prices I didn't want to buy another
one.

Frits Wüthrich


Christian Skofteland asked:
 Ok, I know we've covered this in the past but I'm going to ask again (and
 pay attention to the answers this time!):

 How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
 before you scan them?

 I've been trying to catch up on scanning slides with my new/used HP
 PhotoSmart scanner.   I've been using compressed air and anti-static wipes
 on both the slides and the scanner itself but I'm still
 frustrated with all
 the crap that shows up on the final scan.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 Christian Skofteland
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Re: More on cleaning slides/negatives

2001-12-30 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

I would bet it is pretty dry in your house. That causes a lot of static on
the slide that holds the dust in place like a magnet. My experience is that
when the humidity is 60% or so the dust pretty much blows off with
compressed air. Short of humidifying the house you might try one of those
anti-static gizmos, there used to be several on the market.

Ciao,
graywolf
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From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:15 PM
Subject: More on cleaning slides/negatives


 Ok, I know we've covered this in the past but I'm going to ask again (and
 pay attention to the answers this time!):

 How the #$!%*(^*%$ do you get all the dust off your slides or negatives
 before you scan them?

 I've been trying to catch up on scanning slides with my new/used HP
 PhotoSmart scanner.   I've been using compressed air and anti-static wipes
 on both the slides and the scanner itself but I'm still frustrated with
all
 the crap that shows up on the final scan.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 Christian Skofteland
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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