My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up with several observations * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my wife - French) Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non photographer - my wife. While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions to some that really caught my eye: 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it Christine. Notables & why I thought so - 'Eighteen Below on the Salmon River by Thomas Cakalic - subject and composition 'Winter's Grace' by Jack Davis - simplicity, subject and execution 'The Red Door' by Ann Sanfedele - symmetry and composition 'From Across +3' by Fernando Terrazzino - subject, composition and lighting 'Looking for Another Wave' by Brian Walters - subject and composition 'Jetty Dreams' by Bruce Walker - composition, subject and light 'Turbofan' by Bong Manayon - subject and composition 'Ruby Red' by Brendan MacRae - subject and composition 'Third Snow this Winter's by Ann Sanfedele - execution, subject and composition 'The Monument' by Buylent Celasun - Subject and execution 'Love' by Tanya Love - subject and execution 'Lead Sled' by Paul Stenquist - what can I say I'm a sucker for a good car image, especially a Ford 'Winter Beach' by Carl Gjersem - composition and lighting I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual list. If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Ken You've pretty much summed up my reactions as well, and my wife Margaret also commented on the standard of Doug's preface. The layout and format of the book is just about perfect, although I agree a slightly larger font would be appreciated by my aging eyes. There are perhaps half a dozen pages where I think the backgrounds are slightly distracting but in most cases they work extremely well. I dip's me lid to Mark and his co-conspirators and a job superbly done. It's very difficult to select favourites but Christine's 'Akira' is certainly up there. Christine's 'Chicago Fog' was also my favourite in 2008-09, so it's about time she stopped showing us up. :-) I wish I'd taken Jack's 'Winter Grace' - a wonderfully simple but perfect composition. Others that I particularly enjoyed were Toine's 'Bokeh Baby' (another beautiful and simple composition), Ken's 'Ice Flower', Bong's 'Color Pencil Blooms', Ann's 'Red Door', Jaume's 'Monastery Visitors' and, and,and This is a book that I'm going to enjoy immensely over the coming months. Well done all!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 00:14 -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: > Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come > up > with several observations > > * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities > are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of > Doug > Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). > > As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my > wife - French) > Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a > non photographer - my wife. > > While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my > reactions to some that really caught my eye: > > 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, > IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of > it > Christine. > > Notables & why I thought so - > 'Eighteen Below on the Salmon River by Thomas Cakalic - subject and > composition > > 'Winter's Grace' by Jack Davis - simplicity, subject and execution > > 'The Red Door' by Ann Sanfedele - symmetry and composition > > 'From Across +3' by Fernando Terrazzino - subject, composition and > lighting > > 'Looking for Another Wave' by Brian Walters - subject and composition > > 'Jetty Dreams' by Bruce Walker - composition, subject and light > > 'Turbofan' by Bong Manayon - subject and composition > > 'Ruby Red' by Brendan MacRae - subject and composition > > 'Third Snow this Winter's by Ann Sanfedele - execution, subject and > composition > > 'The Monument' by Buylent Celasun - Subject and execution > > 'Love' by Tanya Love - subject and execution > > 'Lead Sled' by Paul Stenquist - what can I say I'm a sucker for a good > car > image, especially a Ford > > 'Winter Beach' by Carl Gjersem - composition and lighting > > > I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if > people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual > list. > > If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size > of > the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! > > YMMV > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > > -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:14 PM, wrote: > Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up > with several observations > > * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are > wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug > Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). > > As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my > wife - French) > Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non > photographer - my wife. Yes, it is very well written. > > While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions > to some that really caught my eye: Just about everyone I've shown it to has commented on how good the photographs in it are. The photos in the first one were intimidating enough, if I were joining the list now, I don't know if I'd have the guts to submit an image. > > 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, > IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it > Christine. It is an amazing shot. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, wrote: > Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up > with several observations > > * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities > are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug > Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). Totally agree. > > As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my > wife - French) > Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a > non photographer - my wife. Same here. > > I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if > people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual list. Could be. > > If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of > the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! Same here. I had a hard time reading some of the items. Dave > > YMMV > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
I haven't received my copy of the annual--can't wait. I look forward to seeing everyone's work--the photos, Doug's forward, and Mark's design work. Big thanks Ken for your very kind words. Very much appreciated. That day Akira & I were on our way to the Museum of Science and Industry. I had the K-7 with the FA 50mm f 1.4. I knew I'd want a few shots of him on the train, and with the FA 50mm I knew I'd need some distance, so I sat in a seat diagonal from Akira. The train car was empty and not moving because we get on this train at the end of the line. Akira moved about the car and settled in a seat facing me. He looked out the closest window & I got 2 shots off--not very interesting stuff. He shifted in his seat and looked across the isle, then slumped back into his seat and looked straight at me, and I got the shot off. Right when I looked at the LCD, Akira started talking and asking me questions, so I got distracted and thought, ah that'll just have to do. Then I sat beside him, and we gabbed and giggled all the way to the museum. It was a great day with him. He's really funny--and a handful--he can talk your ear off! And I did take many pictures at the museum--but just playful stuff--the kind an aunt would take. :-) Big thanks, Ken. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 11:14 PM Subject: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up with several observations * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my wife - French) Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non photographer - my wife. While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions to some that really caught my eye: 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it Christine. Notables & why I thought so - 'Eighteen Below on the Salmon River by Thomas Cakalic - subject and composition 'Winter's Grace' by Jack Davis - simplicity, subject and execution 'The Red Door' by Ann Sanfedele - symmetry and composition 'From Across +3' by Fernando Terrazzino - subject, composition and lighting 'Looking for Another Wave' by Brian Walters - subject and composition 'Jetty Dreams' by Bruce Walker - composition, subject and light 'Turbofan' by Bong Manayon - subject and composition 'Ruby Red' by Brendan MacRae - subject and composition 'Third Snow this Winter's by Ann Sanfedele - execution, subject and composition 'The Monument' by Buylent Celasun - Subject and execution 'Love' by Tanya Love - subject and execution 'Lead Sled' by Paul Stenquist - what can I say I'm a sucker for a good car image, especially a Ford 'Winter Beach' by Carl Gjersem - composition and lighting I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual list. If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Thanks, Brian. Very kind of you to say so. Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:44 AM Subject: Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual Ken You've pretty much summed up my reactions as well, and my wife Margaret also commented on the standard of Doug's preface. The layout and format of the book is just about perfect, although I agree a slightly larger font would be appreciated by my aging eyes. There are perhaps half a dozen pages where I think the backgrounds are slightly distracting but in most cases they work extremely well. I dip's me lid to Mark and his co-conspirators and a job superbly done. It's very difficult to select favourites but Christine's 'Akira' is certainly up there. Christine's 'Chicago Fog' was also my favourite in 2008-09, so it's about time she stopped showing us up. :-) I wish I'd taken Jack's 'Winter Grace' - a wonderfully simple but perfect composition. Others that I particularly enjoyed were Toine's 'Bokeh Baby' (another beautiful and simple composition), Ken's 'Ice Flower', Bong's 'Color Pencil Blooms', Ann's 'Red Door', Jaume's 'Monastery Visitors' and, and,and This is a book that I'm going to enjoy immensely over the coming months. Well done all!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 00:14 -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up with several observations * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my wife - French) Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non photographer - my wife. While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions to some that really caught my eye: 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it Christine. Notables & why I thought so - 'Eighteen Below on the Salmon River by Thomas Cakalic - subject and composition 'Winter's Grace' by Jack Davis - simplicity, subject and execution 'The Red Door' by Ann Sanfedele - symmetry and composition 'From Across +3' by Fernando Terrazzino - subject, composition and lighting 'Looking for Another Wave' by Brian Walters - subject and composition 'Jetty Dreams' by Bruce Walker - composition, subject and light 'Turbofan' by Bong Manayon - subject and composition 'Ruby Red' by Brendan MacRae - subject and composition 'Third Snow this Winter's by Ann Sanfedele - execution, subject and composition 'The Monument' by Buylent Celasun - Subject and execution 'Love' by Tanya Love - subject and execution 'Lead Sled' by Paul Stenquist - what can I say I'm a sucker for a good car image, especially a Ford 'Winter Beach' by Carl Gjersem - composition and lighting I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual list. If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Thanks, Larry. Very kind of you to say so. Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:14 PM, wrote: Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up with several observations * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb & Miscrere). As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my wife - French) Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non photographer - my wife. Yes, it is very well written. While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions to some that really caught my eye: Just about everyone I've shown it to has commented on how good the photographs in it are. The photos in the first one were intimidating enough, if I were joining the list now, I don't know if I'd have the guts to submit an image. 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it Christine. It is an amazing shot. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
On Apr 23, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Thanks, Larry. Very kind of you to say so. Big cheers, Christine Not kind, just observant. :-) > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
David J Brooks wrote: >On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, wrote: >> >> If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of >> the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! > >Same here. I had a hard time reading some of the items. All right. Lemme tell ya a story about fonts... OK, first of all, my eyes are approaching their 50th birthday next month and I think you're right that the print could be a bit larger. Mea culpa. We'll do better next year, etc. Good lighting helps and should be a consideration when viewing any art book but it would still be nice for us old folks to be able to read it in our living room in the evening. Now on to the story (which isn't directly related to the above but I'm taking the chance to veer off-topic - consider it a segue). I took about a month going through fonts when selecting one for this year's book. Size aside, it is pretty nice, isn't it? Not too formal or too casual; artistic but not off the wall. Well, I like it. Being budget-minded I chose a freeware font, but I was careful to go for one that (I thought) had everything I needed. Last year I did my "Loire Valley Travels" book and chose a wonderful font for it... only to discover after getting the book almost completed that it didn't have a bold or italic version. As it happened, I didn't need bold for my body text and very few words were italicized, so I went for the (typographically cheesy) solution of pseudo-italic skewed text in the few spots I wanted italic. Even my friend who teaches Typography I and Typography II at the college didn't notice. For the PDML book I made sure I chose a font that had bold and italic versions. Only when the book was nearly completed did I notice the small size issue (everything is readable on a big monitor with magnification set for detail work - and here's some trivia: Some fonts at 10-point size are much, much smaller than other fonts at the same nominal point size; this shouldn't be true but it is), at which point changing would have required a massive re-organization of many pages. But there was a much more serious issue to address: Have you noticed that some PDML members have the temerity to have names that use non-English characters? The nerve! The font I'd chosen did indeed have the letters "e" and "a" with accents, but not the letter "c" (Luka Kneevic-Strika I'm looking at YOU!) The letter "O" with slash, as in Øksne and Øsleby was also absent. No Copyright symbol either. It did, however, have all the characters necessary to spell "panic" in English. I could have gone for another font, but that would have necessitated a lot of re-juggling: I'd already spent time on kerning of some sections and making sure page and line breaks occurred at the right spots. And I still liked the look of the font. So I ended up buying font editing software and creating the necessary characters myself. A bit time (and money) consuming, but very satisfying. Another lesson learned for next year's book. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Mark, I almost didn't make the font size comment as I didn't want to be negative about anything related to the book in deference to all the time & work you and your cohorts had put into it, but since others have chimed in I feel better about having done so. Still a very good work to show off the efforts of the members - thanks again & again & again Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, wrote: If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! Same here. I had a hard time reading some of the items. All right. Lemme tell ya a story about fonts... OK, first of all, my eyes are approaching their 50th birthday next month and I think you're right that the print could be a bit larger. Mea culpa. We'll do better next year, etc. Good lighting helps and should be a consideration when viewing any art book but it would still be nice for us old folks to be able to read it in our living room in the evening. Now on to the story (which isn't directly related to the above but I'm taking the chance to veer off-topic - consider it a segue). I took about a month going through fonts when selecting one for this year's book. Size aside, it is pretty nice, isn't it? Not too formal or too casual; artistic but not off the wall. Well, I like it. Being budget-minded I chose a freeware font, but I was careful to go for one that (I thought) had everything I needed. Last year I did my "Loire Valley Travels" book and chose a wonderful font for it... only to discover after getting the book almost completed that it didn't have a bold or italic version. As it happened, I didn't need bold for my body text and very few words were italicized, so I went for the (typographically cheesy) solution of pseudo-italic skewed text in the few spots I wanted italic. Even my friend who teaches Typography I and Typography II at the college didn't notice. For the PDML book I made sure I chose a font that had bold and italic versions. Only when the book was nearly completed did I notice the small size issue (everything is readable on a big monitor with magnification set for detail work - and here's some trivia: Some fonts at 10-point size are much, much smaller than other fonts at the same nominal point size; this shouldn't be true but it is), at which point changing would have required a massive re-organization of many pages. But there was a much more serious issue to address: Have you noticed that some PDML members have the temerity to have names that use non-English characters? The nerve! The font I'd chosen did indeed have the letters "e" and "a" with accents, but not the letter "c" (Luka Knezevic-Strika I'm looking at YOU!) The letter "O" with slash, as in Øksne and Øsleby was also absent. No Copyright symbol either. It did, however, have all the characters necessary to spell "panic" in English. I could have gone for another font, but that would have necessitated a lot of re-juggling: I'd already spent time on kerning of some sections and making sure page and line breaks occurred at the right spots. And I still liked the look of the font. So I ended up buying font editing software and creating the necessary characters myself. A bit time (and money) consuming, but very satisfying. Another lesson learned for next year's book. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Ken Waller wrote: >Mark, I almost didn't make the font size comment as I didn't want to be >negative about anything related to the book in deference to all the time & >work you and your cohorts had put into it, but since others have chimed in I >feel better about having done so. > >Still a very good work to show off the efforts of the members - thanks again >& again & again Feedback is always welcome. That's how the second book came to be better than the first and the third better than the second. I deliberately tried to push some boundaries with the third book. Unless some people complain it isn't a success :) Remember the words of Winston Churchill: "I don't know the secret of success but I know the secret of failure - trying to please everyone". (I hope that's one that really is Churchill but I have my doubts - there may be more made-up quotations attributed to Churchill that real things he actually said.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
