Re: Naive question, viewfinder magnification
Unfortunately this is a case of a vicious circle: a viewfinder with bigger magnification gives you - yes, you've guessed it - bigger image in the finder, but that's why it is hard to see the whole image, including exposure data outside the image area, at a glance, especially for those wearing eyeglasses. Smaller viewfinder magnification gives you the so-called "high viewpoint finder", which makes it easier to see the whole image and exposure information even with your eye detached form the eyepiece bit the image is smaller and thus manual focusing is more difficult. Numerous AF cameras have a smaller magnification relying on the fact that AF will do the job for you and your task is only to compose and see everything at a glance. Having high image magnification and full picture of the image plus exposure data is a contradiction in itself. Your MX finder makes manual focusing a snap; with MZ-5N the priority is on ability to see everything in the finder at a glance even when you are wearing eyeglasses. Francis Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > I was just wondering, what's the significance of viewfinder magnification? I know that since I am used to my MX and ME Supers, I found it quite hard to manually focus on my friend's MZ-5n. So my initial thought was that the bigger the better. But then I noticed that the LX officially has a smaller magnification than the MX. In fact, all Pentax cameras have smaller magnification than the MX. So what's up? > > Incidentally, according to the brochures on the Pentax USA website, the MZ-S has a viewfinder magnification of 0.75x, where as that of the MZ-5n is 0.8x. > > I've heard people complain that they can't see all of the viewfinder in the MX, and >I know I have to press the camera hard into my face so that I can see all of it. But why can't Pentax keep the same viewfinder magnification on the MX and just make the rear window bigger? Am I just being too naive here? > > -- > Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh. > Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland. > Tel: +49 174/3545241 (D2 Voda) ZNr: S215/215 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > --- Jagged Alliance 2,5 Unfinished Business PL ju¿ w sprzeda¿y! Kliknij < http://gry.wp.pl/opisy/jagged_alliance_2.html > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Naive question, viewfinder magnification
At 12:31 AM 6/26/01 -0700, you wrote: > >AFAIK, MX has the highest magnificantion of all Pentax K mount bodies. I >have had MX, LX, Super A/Program, P50, MZ-M and Z-1p over the years. I was >amazed by how difficult to focus with the MZ-M due to the low >magnificantion, because afterall, it's a manual focus body where good >quality viewfinder is essential IMO. Actually, the ME is the highest, at .98x verses .97x for the MX. However, the ME's focus srceen is optimized for fast lenses, a F4 zoom on the ME can be a challenge. But a nice 50mm F1.4 on the ME is a great combo. I have found that the ZX-M is easiest to focus using the Matte part of the screen anyway, I only use the center aids generally with longer lenses. It's also the easiest when it comes to focusing slow lenses too, for fast lenses I'd rather have a KX or the ME. > >>Incidentally, according to the brochures on the Pentax USA website, the >>MZ-S has a viewfinder magnification of 0.75x, where as that of the MZ-5n is >>0.8x. > >That's bad. :( Yeap :( Most AF camera users don't give a darn about manual lenses, and just want a bright image to know what the camera is pointed at, unfortunently. (I'm not talking about most AF camera using list members here) > >>I've heard people complain that they can't see all of the viewfinder in the >>MX, and I know I have to press the camera hard into my face so that I can >>see all of it. But why can't Pentax keep the same viewfinder magnification >>on the MX and just make the rear window bigger? Am I just being too naive >>here? > >I has been wondering the same too. Nikon made something called action finder >for their F bodies so my only conclusion is cost cutting. There is a simular finder for the LX too. Todd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Naive question, viewfinder magnification
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 12:31:50AM -0700, Alan Chan wrote: > >I've heard people complain that they can't see all of the viewfinder in the > >MX, and I know I have to press the camera hard into my face so that I can > >see all of it. But why can't Pentax keep the same viewfinder magnification > >on the MX and just make the rear window bigger? Am I just being too naive > >here? > > I has been wondering the same too. Nikon made something called action finder > for their F bodies so my only conclusion is cost cutting. H. "Action finder" reminds me of that door you open on the top cover of a Yashicamat to give you a direct viewfinder. At least it's distortion-free and, with relevance to this topic, has 1.0x magnification. Pity you get parallax error... Incidentally, the Leica 0-Series has such a viewfinder too. Frank. -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh. Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland. Tel: +49 174/3545241 (D2 Voda) ZNr: S215/215 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Naive question, viewfinder magnification
>I was just wondering, what's the significance of viewfinder magnification? >I know that since I am used to my MX and ME Supers, I found it quite hard >to manually focus on my friend's MZ-5n. So my initial thought was that the >bigger the better. But then I noticed that the LX officially has a smaller >magnification than the MX. In fact, all Pentax cameras have smaller >magnification than the MX. So what's up? AFAIK, MX has the highest magnificantion of all Pentax K mount bodies. I have had MX, LX, Super A/Program, P50, MZ-M and Z-1p over the years. I was amazed by how difficult to focus with the MZ-M due to the low magnificantion, because afterall, it's a manual focus body where good quality viewfinder is essential IMO. >Incidentally, according to the brochures on the Pentax USA website, the >MZ-S has a viewfinder magnification of 0.75x, where as that of the MZ-5n is >0.8x. That's bad. :( >I've heard people complain that they can't see all of the viewfinder in the >MX, and I know I have to press the camera hard into my face so that I can >see all of it. But why can't Pentax keep the same viewfinder magnification >on the MX and just make the rear window bigger? Am I just being too naive >here? I has been wondering the same too. Nikon made something called action finder for their F bodies so my only conclusion is cost cutting. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Naive question, viewfinder magnification
I was just wondering, what's the significance of viewfinder magnification? I know that since I am used to my MX and ME Supers, I found it quite hard to manually focus on my friend's MZ-5n. So my initial thought was that the bigger the better. But then I noticed that the LX officially has a smaller magnification than the MX. In fact, all Pentax cameras have smaller magnification than the MX. So what's up? Incidentally, according to the brochures on the Pentax USA website, the MZ-S has a viewfinder magnification of 0.75x, where as that of the MZ-5n is 0.8x. I've heard people complain that they can't see all of the viewfinder in the MX, and I know I have to press the camera hard into my face so that I can see all of it. But why can't Pentax keep the same viewfinder magnification on the MX and just make the rear window bigger? Am I just being too naive here? -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh. Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland. Tel: +49 174/3545241 (D2 Voda) ZNr: S215/215 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
