Re: GESO - test images with the new toy

[John Francis]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 09:01:38AM +0200, Alan C wrote:
> John, as Dan said, those are fine images. All tack sharp. I used to get
> colours like that with the K7 but not with the K5.
> 
> Alan C
 
Re:  

Thanks to all who commented.

I can't really take credit for the colours or the sharpness - Olympus
(and whoever makes the sensor) deserve most of the praise for that.

My contribution was deciding where to point the camera, and picking
a small enough aperture to get at least some amount of depth of field
on the flower close-ups - the camera took care of the rest. 

It's a learning experience for me - switching to u4/3 from the APS-C
sensor of the K5 (and the different aspect ratio of the two systems)
is interesting (and occasionally challenging), but definitely fun.

Things I have learned so far:

  o I still prefer a viewfinder, but having a rear screen is good.
Having one than can be flipped out, rotated, etc. is even better.

  o The Olympus shutter release is hair-trigger sensitive!

  o The auto-focus is lightning fast (and accurate). That's good,
because having a smaller sensor affects the depth of field.

I've not as yet got anywhere near pushing the new camera to its limits;
it supposedly offers significantly better Image Stabilisation (SR),
and has an AI-based focus tracking mode that understands motorsports.
But at the moment I'm concentrating on getting to know where all the 
controls are (there are buttons all over the body, and almost all of
them can be re-programmed to do something other than their default).
I've got used to the Pentax control layout - I haven't owned any other
brand of SLR since I purchased my Spotmatic II (50 years ago!)
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Re: GESO - test images with the new toy

[Alan C]

John, as Dan said, those are fine images. All tack sharp. I used to get 
colours like that with the K7 but not with the K5.


Alan C

On 14-Apr-22 01:35 AM, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 06:47:12PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

404 Not Found

Here it is:  

Hmm.  Try this:  
 or   


The text between the <> brackets in my original post (with spaces)
works just fine for me if I select it then "Open Selection as URL".
But apparently just positioning the cursor and choosing the option
"Open URL" doesn't work unless the spaces are quoted.
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Re: GESO - test images with the new toy

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very Nice images, with great color and effective composition.

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On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 7:35 PM John Francis  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 06:47:12PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > 404 Not Found
> > >
> > > Here it is:  
>
> Hmm.  Try this:  
> or   
>
>
> The text between the <> brackets in my original post (with spaces)
> works just fine for me if I select it then "Open Selection as URL".
> But apparently just positioning the cursor and choosing the option
> "Open URL" doesn't work unless the spaces are quoted.
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Re: GESO - test images with the new toy

[John Francis]

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 06:47:12PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 404 Not Found
> >
> > Here it is:  

Hmm.  Try this:  
or   


The text between the <> brackets in my original post (with spaces)
works just fine for me if I select it then "Open Selection as URL".
But apparently just positioning the cursor and choosing the option
"Open URL" doesn't work unless the spaces are quoted.
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Re: GESO - test images with the new toy

[Daniel J. Matyola]

404 Not Found
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 1:32 PM John Francis  wrote:

> As Larry posted some images from his latest camera acquisition,
> I thought I should get round to picking up a copy of jAlbum and
> seeing what it took to put together a small gallery.
>
> Here it is:  
>
> All except the first image are taken with the new 12-100 zoom.
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GESO - test images with the new toy

[John Francis]

As Larry posted some images from his latest camera acquisition,
I thought I should get round to picking up a copy of jAlbum and
seeing what it took to put together a small gallery.
 
Here it is:  

All except the first image are taken with the new 12-100 zoom.
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Re: GESO: New Toy

[Bob Pdml]

> On 15 Jul 2019, at 19:25, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> Am 15.07.19 um 19:57 schrieb Larry Colen:
>> 
>> I'm really looking forward to the macros you get of lions and elephants
>> with that lens.
> 
> Ha! Reminds me of when they explained to me how to catch elephants when
> I was a kid, with a telescope, tweezers and a small tupperware box.
> 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=MMiKyfd6hA0

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Re: GESO: New Toy

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 15.07.19 um 19:57 schrieb Larry Colen:


I'm really looking forward to the macros you get of lions and elephants
with that lens.


Ha! Reminds me of when they explained to me how to catch elephants when
I was a kid, with a telescope, tweezers and a small tupperware box.

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Re: GESO: New Toy

[Daniel J. Matyola]

MARK!

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On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 1:58 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

> I'm really looking forward to the macros you get of lions and elephants
> with that lens.
>
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Re: GESO: New Toy

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent. I have the D-FA version and paid big bucks for it.
Paul

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Alan C wrote on 7/15/19 7:37 AM:
>> I was fortunate to find an FA f2.8/100mm Macro in pristine condition for a 
>> mere R450 ($32). The same optically as the D-FA version but a fraction of 
>> the price.
> 
> That's an awesome deal.  It's a great lens.  I recently got the WR version.
> 
>> Here are a few images, 2 macro & 2 telephoto. (Scroll L & R). Dan should 
>> like these.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/48289279552/
> 
> I really like this shot.
> 
> I'm really looking forward to the macros you get of lions and elephants with 
> that lens.
> 
> 
>> K5 & FA 2.8/100 Macro
>> Alan C
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Re: GESO: New Toy

[Larry Colen]

Alan C wrote on 7/15/19 7:37 AM:
I was fortunate to find an FA f2.8/100mm Macro in pristine condition for 
a mere R450 ($32). The same optically as the D-FA version but a fraction 
of the price.


That's an awesome deal.  It's a great lens.  I recently got the WR version.



Here are a few images, 2 macro & 2 telephoto. (Scroll L & R). Dan should 
like these.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/48289279552/


I really like this shot.

I'm really looking forward to the macros you get of lions and elephants 
with that lens.





K5 & FA 2.8/100 Macro

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Re: GESO: New Toy

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I do indeed appreciate them, Alan, especially Buds and Gazania.

That is my favorite lens, and I use it all the time.  That is a great price!

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On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 10:38 AM Alan C  wrote:

> I was fortunate to find an FA f2.8/100mm Macro in pristine condition for
> a mere R450 ($32). The same optically as the D-FA version but a fraction
> of the price.
>
> Here are a few images, 2 macro & 2 telephoto. (Scroll L & R). Dan should
> like these.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/48289279552/
>
> K5 & FA 2.8/100 Macro
>
> Alan C
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GESO: New Toy

[Alan C]

I was fortunate to find an FA f2.8/100mm Macro in pristine condition for 
a mere R450 ($32). The same optically as the D-FA version but a fraction 
of the price.


Here are a few images, 2 macro & 2 telephoto. (Scroll L & R). Dan should 
like these.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/48289279552/

K5 & FA 2.8/100 Macro

Alan C

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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Larry Colen]

John Francis wrote on 6/3/19 9:51 AM:

On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 10:49:24PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:

I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus E-PL1,
with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people on the list
who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have recommendations
for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual focus Minolta and
some old Nikon glass lying around.


Nice little toy, isn't it?


Picture quality seems to be pretty good:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708902630887

The user interface is atrocious. That is not a condemnation of u4/3 in 
general, but it's an incredible pain to take any manual control of it. 
The form factor, particularly without the evf, is very tough to hole in 
even my dainty little paws.




I bought one for my wife (with the 14-42 and 40-150 lenses) back in 2010,
although I've probably used it myself rather more than she has.

Somewhere around here I've got the adapter I bought to use my Pentax 50mm
with it when I wanted to take some pictures of the miniature figures we use
for tabletop RPGs - if I manage to turn it up I'll let you know.

(I would like to try out the 17/2.8 sometime, too)


Gee, maybe we should get together and play with cameras sometime.






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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 10:49:24PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus E-PL1,
> with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people on the list
> who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have recommendations
> for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual focus Minolta and
> some old Nikon glass lying around.

Nice little toy, isn't it?

I bought one for my wife (with the 14-42 and 40-150 lenses) back in 2010,
although I've probably used it myself rather more than she has.

Somewhere around here I've got the adapter I bought to use my Pentax 50mm
with it when I wanted to take some pictures of the miniature figures we use
for tabletop RPGs - if I manage to turn it up I'll let you know.

(I would like to try out the 17/2.8 sometime, too)

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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/6/19, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I use Kiwifotos adapters - well made and reliable - faultless.

There's a few shots of them on this page:



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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

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On 1/6/19, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus 
>E-PL1, with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people 
>on the list who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have 
>recommendations for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual 
>focus Minolta and some old Nikon glass lying around.

I use Kiwifotos adapters - well made and reliable - faultless.



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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Larry Colen]

Brian W wrote on 6/2/19 12:16 AM:

I bought a few cheap adapters of ebay - K mount, Konica, M42 - they all do the
job well enough but I've never found using adapted lenses much fun. Apart from a
Konica macro lens, I haven't used any other adapted lenses regularly even though
I have lots.


Thanks for the info


Focus peaking helps but does the E-PL1 have that?


No it doesn't.

Thanks for the info.  So, maybe I'll drop $20 on an adapter, but it 
seems a lot less urgent.



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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Brian W]

I bought a few cheap adapters of ebay - K mount, Konica, M42 - they all do the
job well enough but I've never found using adapted lenses much fun. Apart from a
Konica macro lens, I haven't used any other adapted lenses regularly even though
I have lots.

Focus peaking helps but does the E-PL1 have that?


Cheers

Brian

> On 02 June 2019 at 15:49 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus 
> E-PL1, with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people 
> on the list who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have 
> recommendations for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual 
> focus Minolta and some old Nikon glass lying around.
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I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus 
E-PL1, with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people 
on the list who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have 
recommendations for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual 
focus Minolta and some old Nikon glass lying around.


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Re: New toy

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I have a well worn 6x7 that I still dust off now and then. The 67 was 
very similar to the 6x7and incorporated several updates made to the 6x7 
over the years - sorta like 6x7 SP1. The 67II was more or less a new 
camera, though it used the same lens mount. The manuals for the 6x7 and 
descendants are available at pentax67.net - there are instructions on 
how to cock the shutter without film. It does need a battery to fire, IIRC.


Have fun!


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  I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
4127460

Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter doesn't 
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Re: New toy

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That is indeed a fine camera.

I had a 6X7, which was an earlier and more basic version on the 67.  It was
an amazing machine, and the lenses were huge chunks of glass.  I sold the
camera and the lenses years ago, after I went digital.  I still miss it at
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:18 PM,  wrote:

> It says 67 on the front, so I'm guessing that's what it is.
>
> On October 24, 2017 6:56:28 PM PDT, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> >The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort
> >in there that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it
> >to get the shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the
> >web. Unfortunately I sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a
> >67 rather than a 6x7, it's a premium piece.
> >
> >Paul via phone
> >
> >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
> >> 4127460
> >>
> >> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter
> >doesn't seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no
> >battery
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Re: New toy

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Excellent. A nice piece.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:18 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> It says 67 on the front, so I'm guessing that's what it is.
> 
>> On October 24, 2017 6:56:28 PM PDT, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>> The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort
>> in there that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it
>> to get the shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the
>> web. Unfortunately I sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a
>> 67 rather than a 6x7, it's a premium piece.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
>>> 4127460
>>> 
>>> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter
>> doesn't seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no
>> battery
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Re: New toy

[lrc]

It says 67 on the front, so I'm guessing that's what it is.

On October 24, 2017 6:56:28 PM PDT, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort
>in there that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it
>to get the shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the
>web. Unfortunately I sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a
>67 rather than a 6x7, it's a premium piece.
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
>> 4127460
>> 
>> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter
>doesn't seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no
>battery
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Re: New toy

[Paul Stenquist]

The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort in there 
that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it to get the 
shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the web. Unfortunately I 
sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a 67 rather than a 6x7, it's a 
premium piece.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
> 4127460
> 
> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter doesn't 
> seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no battery
> 
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New toy

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 I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
4127460

Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter doesn't 
seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no battery

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 07/09/2014 10:24 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Just keep an eye on your airtime ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6YrLN5L_k



These guys have even thought of that. The thing will automatically fly 
back to it's launch point when it is low on power.
Seriously, one would have to want to crash one of these if it was going 
to crash.


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Rob Studdert]

Just keep an eye on your airtime ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6YrLN5L_k


On 8 September 2014 11:41, Michael Beacom  wrote:
> Mobile, too!
>
> Beaker
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Cool! A very modernistic looking ceiling fan.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
>>> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
>>> content.
>>>
>>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
>>>
>>> bill
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Michael Beacom]

Mobile, too!

Beaker

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Stanley Halpin  
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> Cool! A very modernistic looking ceiling fan.
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
>> content.
>> 
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
>> 
>> bill
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Steve Cottrell]

On 6/9/14, Attila Boros, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty, this might be of interest for you:
>http://goprouser.freeforums.org/hero-3-black-wifi-lag-test-app-v2-
>android-v3-0-firmware-t13644.html
>It seems if you want "realtime" (about 2-3 frames delay as claimed
>here: http://gopro.com/support/articles/hero3plus-hdmi-output-information)
>you'd need HDMI. Depending on how you use it, cables might not be an
>option:(

Yep - using the wifi bacpac (I have a Hero 2) I get a 3 second delay  -
or lag - from the camera to the iPhone app display. If I hard wire a
monitor to the camera there is no lag at all. The problem is that 99.9%
of the time I cannot link the camera to a display and so I live with the
lag. That said, I only view the iPhone app display of the camera's
output while setting up the framing for the shot before locking off the
camera mount prior to filming. The most usual situation for this would
be mounting inside a car to get a shot of the front seat occupant(s).

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 06/09/2014 3:39 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 5/9/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


The camera is controlled by the smart phone app. The machine is
controlled by a pair of joysticks.


Yep fully understand - I have a similar app for the GoPro, but the
'live' view on the app is actually delayed by about 3 seconds. Do you
have a delayed view onto the phone from the camera's output?



The delay seems to be about as long as the delay on my Fuji X-T1 
viewfinder (in other words, no appreciable delay). The machine can be 
flown by using the camera output to the screen, which is especially 
useful for dialing in composition.
There is quite a pause when taking a still picture as the entire system 
shuts down while the image is being written, so nothing is visible for 
several seconds. I presume the camera doesn't actually have a buffer.


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Yep fully understand - I have a similar app for the GoPro, but the
> 'live' view on the app is actually delayed by about 3 seconds.

Cotty, this might be of interest for you:
http://goprouser.freeforums.org/hero-3-black-wifi-lag-test-app-v2-android-v3-0-firmware-t13644.html
It seems if you want "realtime" (about 2-3 frames delay as claimed
here: http://gopro.com/support/articles/hero3plus-hdmi-output-information)
you'd need HDMI. Depending on how you use it, cables might not be an
option:(

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/9/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The camera is controlled by the smart phone app. The machine is 
>controlled by a pair of joysticks.

Yep fully understand - I have a similar app for the GoPro, but the
'live' view on the app is actually delayed by about 3 seconds. Do you
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Ken Waller]

Impressive video quality. Stable platform, apparently easy to fly.

Any specific usages?

Any shortcomings you've uncovered ?

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Peso: Bill's new toy



On 04/09/2014 2:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?




The live link is what they call first person view, and it runs through 
my cell phone.

If you go to the 6:15 minute mark of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrKFJQVYLg
you will get a look at yours truly, but more importantly the controller 
with my Galaxy phone clipped to it.


If you want to lose 16 minutes of your life for no good reason
click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5NfYoO0Zk

My brother in law lives in the country about half an hour from us in a 
very pleasant valley.


Thanks for being interested.

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 05/09/2014 8:47 AM, Attila Boros wrote:

Pure fun! What camera can you mount on it? Can it take a DSLR?
Enjoy!


This one isn't big enough for a DSLR. It's equipped with it's own camera 
on a 3 way stabilizer that does 14mp stills or 1080p video. I think it's 
a 1/2.3" sensor.


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bob W-PDML]

7:24 has something of American Gothic about it.

B

> On 5 Sep 2014, at 08:34, "Rob Studdert"  wrote:
> 
> LOL, that's one way to take a "selfie" Bill :)
> 
>> On 5 September 2014 15:46, Bill  wrote:
>>> On 04/09/2014 2:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>> 
>>> PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?
>> The live link is what they call first person view, and it runs through my
>> cell phone.
>> If you go to the 6:15 minute mark of
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrKFJQVYLg
>> you will get a look at yours truly, but more importantly the controller with
>> my Galaxy phone clipped to it.
>> 
>> If you want to lose 16 minutes of your life for no good reason
>> click here:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5NfYoO0Zk
>> 
>> My brother in law lives in the country about half an hour from us in a very
>> pleasant valley.
>> 
>> Thanks for being interested.
>> 
>> bill
>> 
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bob Sullivan]

That, Sir Bill, is a fantastic toy!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 04/09/2014 2:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>
>> PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> The live link is what they call first person view, and it runs through my
> cell phone.
> If you go to the 6:15 minute mark of
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrKFJQVYLg
> you will get a look at yours truly, but more importantly the controller with
> my Galaxy phone clipped to it.
>
> If you want to lose 16 minutes of your life for no good reason
> click here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5NfYoO0Zk
>
> My brother in law lives in the country about half an hour from us in a very
> pleasant valley.
>
> Thanks for being interested.
>
> bill
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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Pure fun! What camera can you mount on it? Can it take a DSLR?
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On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 04/09/2014 2:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>
>> PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> The live link is what they call first person view, and it runs through my
> cell phone.
> If you go to the 6:15 minute mark of
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrKFJQVYLg
> you will get a look at yours truly, but more importantly the controller with
> my Galaxy phone clipped to it.
>
> If you want to lose 16 minutes of your life for no good reason
> click here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5NfYoO0Zk
>
> My brother in law lives in the country about half an hour from us in a very
> pleasant valley.
>
> Thanks for being interested.
>
> bill
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 05/09/2014 8:10 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 05/09/2014 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


 LOL, that's one way to take a "selfie" Bill :)

>>>
>>> Selfies aren't just for kids.
>>
>>
>> So, you are flying the machine, watching the live shot and able to
>> tilt the camera all by smart phone apps.??
>>
>
> The camera is controlled by the smart phone app. The machine is controlled
> by a pair of joysticks.
>
> I'll post some pictures later.

Oh ok thanks for the clarification. If you see one out there that can
run on a flip phone let me know.

Dave
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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On 05/09/2014 8:10 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Bill  wrote:

On 05/09/2014 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


LOL, that's one way to take a "selfie" Bill :)



Selfies aren't just for kids.


So, you are flying the machine, watching the live shot and able to
tilt the camera all by smart phone apps.??



The camera is controlled by the smart phone app. The machine is 
controlled by a pair of joysticks.


I'll post some pictures later.

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 05/09/2014 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> LOL, that's one way to take a "selfie" Bill :)
>>
>
> Selfies aren't just for kids.

So, you are flying the machine, watching the live shot and able to
tilt the camera all by smart phone apps.??

Dave
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 05/09/2014 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

LOL, that's one way to take a "selfie" Bill :)



Selfies aren't just for kids.

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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LOL, that's one way to take a "selfie" Bill :)

On 5 September 2014 15:46, Bill  wrote:
> On 04/09/2014 2:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>
>> PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> The live link is what they call first person view, and it runs through my
> cell phone.
> If you go to the 6:15 minute mark of
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrKFJQVYLg
> you will get a look at yours truly, but more importantly the controller with
> my Galaxy phone clipped to it.
>
> If you want to lose 16 minutes of your life for no good reason
> click here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5NfYoO0Zk
>
> My brother in law lives in the country about half an hour from us in a very
> pleasant valley.
>
> Thanks for being interested.
>
> bill
>
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 04/09/2014 2:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?




The live link is what they call first person view, and it runs through 
my cell phone.

If you go to the 6:15 minute mark of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrKFJQVYLg
you will get a look at yours truly, but more importantly the controller 
with my Galaxy phone clipped to it.


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click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5NfYoO0Zk

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very pleasant valley.


Thanks for being interested.

bill


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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On 9/4/2014 2:52 AM, Bill wrote:

For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
content.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

bill



It's got LEDs like a K-S1.

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

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PS - do you have a live link to be able to see the camera's output?




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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/9/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Well, since you asked, go to youtube and search for themillionthbill. 
>Don't expect anything interesting though. I've transferred my inability 
>to do photography to video.

Very smooth! Love how it's rock solid even when picking the thing up and
walking with it.

Driving that dog across the street mental ;-)

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 04/09/2014 12:37 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Enjoyed the vids, although some of the faster movements made me feel a bit 
seasick. Looks like a fun machine.


Thanks Bob. There are a couple of learning processes. One is to not jerk 
the sticks around (I'm getting a bit better), the other is editing, 
which I am not doing at all.


bill

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bob W-PDML]

Enjoyed the vids, although some of the faster movements made me feel a bit 
seasick. Looks like a fun machine.

> I've transferred my inability to do photography to video.

One for our man! in Birmingham

B

> On 4 Sep 2014, at 18:29, "Bill"  wrote:
> 
>> On 04/09/2014 3:57 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 4/9/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
>>> content.
>>> 
>>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
>> 
>> Very cool. I did think about investing into this sort of thing but to do
>> it professionally in the UK involves some cost in terms of time and
>> admin, not to mention the quali needed to clear our air authority's
>> demands. I have a freelance colleague who has done it and he does enjoy
>> it but I decided against for various reasons. I'm only doing another 3
>> or 4 years before I pack it all in, and I've invested into satellite ops
>> for newsgathering so am gonna stick with that.
> 
> I have a friend who flies one commercially and he has to file a flight plan 
> with Transport Canada before every flight. My intention is to be an amateur 
> and not have to deal with the government.
>> 
>> Is that a 2 or a 3 gimballed mount? I'm considering a 3 gimbal for my
>> gopro, handheld.
> 
> It's a three axis and maintains the camera very steadily.
>> 
>> Looks great though and please do post some shots - moving and still?
> Well, since you asked, go to youtube and search for themillionthbill. Don't 
> expect anything interesting though. I've transferred my inability to do 
> photography to video.
> 
> bill
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 04/09/2014 3:57 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 4/9/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
content.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html


Very cool. I did think about investing into this sort of thing but to do
it professionally in the UK involves some cost in terms of time and
admin, not to mention the quali needed to clear our air authority's
demands. I have a freelance colleague who has done it and he does enjoy
it but I decided against for various reasons. I'm only doing another 3
or 4 years before I pack it all in, and I've invested into satellite ops
for newsgathering so am gonna stick with that.


I have a friend who flies one commercially and he has to file a flight 
plan with Transport Canada before every flight. My intention is to be an 
amateur and not have to deal with the government.


Is that a 2 or a 3 gimballed mount? I'm considering a 3 gimbal for my
gopro, handheld.


It's a three axis and maintains the camera very steadily.


Looks great though and please do post some shots - moving and still?

Well, since you asked, go to youtube and search for themillionthbill. 
Don't expect anything interesting though. I've transferred my inability 
to do photography to video.


bill

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 04/09/2014 9:48 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Bill,

What is it?

It looks like DJI Phantom 2 in something like this configuration:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044729-REG/dji_phantom_2_vision_plus.html


You got it in one Igor.



But it has those "safety" (?) arches under the propellers.
So, I am confused if it is just an add-on, or I mixed it up, and it is a
completely different quadcopter?


I put the the prop guards on to protect the machine if I bump into 
something with it.


Please, report back on your experience after the first week or two, I am
curious 1) how you settled on this model


The DJI's are pretty much the most user friendly machines out there 
right now. Very simple to fly and they have all sorts of fail safes on 
them to keep the pilot out of trouble. The Vision 2 plus is a sideways 
version of the Vision 2, in that it comes with the camera built in 
rather than having to add it to the machine (which would be a Gopro 
Black right now). I did a lot of checking around and the concesus was 
that the DJI camera and the Gopro are of very similar imaging quality, 
but by the time I got the Vision 2 outfitted I would have spent several 
hundred dollars more than I did.
The machine I bought uses a smart phone as the camera controller rather 
than having to buy a dedicated screen for first person view (seeing what 
the camera sees in real time).


From what I read, the Vision 2 Plus is the lowest cost machine capable 
of giving "professional" results. The camera is 14mp/ 1080px60fps video, 
and seems to do good video. It's mounted to a three axis gimbal, so the 
machine can be pitching around quite a bit and maintain smooth video.


and

2) what's your first week's experience (regrets, etc.)


I've only done a few flights so far, I won't bore anyone with the videos 
(well, unless asked), but so far, I'm very happy with it. The only 
frustration with it, and I fully understand why DJI has done what they 
did with the software is that it doesn't fly very far when close to an 
airport. I live about 3lm from our local aerodrome, and in the school 
ground a couple of blocks from where I live, I can fly to a fifty foot 
altitude and 50 feet from the launch point. It's like it runs into a 
wall when it hits the limit.
Having read a few very scary stories of quad copters being used badly, 
I'm not unhappy with the compromise, I do feel it is a bit more limiting 
than it needs to be though..


bill


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 04/09/2014 7:54 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 4/9/14, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:


I'm impressed with the photography which may be Pentax related.(?)


I'm suspecting a Fujifilm presence

I think it was some sort of Panasonic actually. I didn't take the 
pictures, I was piloting the aircraft.


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

On 04/09/2014 7:41 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

That looks like fun!
Can you fly it?



It practically flies itself. It has both a compass and GPS built into 
it, so it always knows where it is and what it's direction of travel is. 
It will even fly back to it's launch point and land by itself if it 
loses contact with the control station.


bill


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bill,

What is it?

It looks like DJI Phantom 2 in something like this configuration:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044729-REG/dji_phantom_2_vision_plus.html

But it has those "safety" (?) arches under the propellers.
So, I am confused if it is just an add-on, or I mixed it up, and it is a 
completely different quadcopter?


Please, report back on your experience after the first week or two, I am 
curious 1) how you settled on this model and

2) what's your first week's experience (regrets, etc.)


Igor


From: Bill 
Subject: Peso: Bill's new toy


For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
content.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

bill





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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Stanley Halpin]

Cool! A very modernistic looking ceiling fan.

stan

On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Bill  wrote:

> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
> content.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
> 
> bill
> 


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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Jack Davis]

Well okay, guess I'll have to admit being impressed by a member of the 
opposition. 

Jack

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Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:54:37 AM
Subject: Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

On 4/9/14, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm impressed with the photography which may be Pentax related.(?)

I'm suspecting a Fujifilm presence

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Speaking of drones, this drone-captured video of the new Apple campus 
construction surfaced just the other day...

http://rt.com/usa/184308-drone-new-apple-campus/

Can't wait to move into my office there. This thing is huge, and the stuff 
they're putting into it is just amazing. 

Godfrey


> On Sep 4, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Awesome! Does it have a death-dealing ray gun?
> 
>> On 4 Sep 2014, at 07:53, "Bill"  wrote:
>> 
>> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
>> content.
>> 
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/9/14, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm impressed with the photography which may be Pentax related.(?)

I'm suspecting a Fujifilm presence

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/9/14, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I WANT ONE!

Once a flyboy always a flyboy ;-)

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I WANT ONE!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
> content.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bob Sullivan]

That looks like fun!
Can you fly it?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
> content.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Jack Davis]

I'm impressed with the photography which may be Pentax related.(?)

Jack

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Subject: Peso: Bill's new toy

For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
content.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/9/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
>content.
>
>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

Very cool. I did think about investing into this sort of thing but to do
it professionally in the UK involves some cost in terms of time and
admin, not to mention the quali needed to clear our air authority's
demands. I have a freelance colleague who has done it and he does enjoy
it but I decided against for various reasons. I'm only doing another 3
or 4 years before I pack it all in, and I've invested into satellite ops
for newsgathering so am gonna stick with that.

Is that a 2 or a 3 gimballed mount? I'm considering a 3 gimbal for my
gopro, handheld.

Looks great though and please do post some shots - moving and still?

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Alan C]

It could have! Great stuff. I'd love to try one of those.

Alan C

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For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax
content.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[P.J. Alling]

Hell I'd settle for air to ground missiles.

On 9/4/2014 3:23 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Awesome! Does it have a death-dealing ray gun?


On 4 Sep 2014, at 07:53, "Bill"  wrote:

For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax content.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bob W-PDML]

Awesome! Does it have a death-dealing ray gun?

> On 4 Sep 2014, at 07:53, "Bill"  wrote:
> 
> For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
> content.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html
> 
> bill
> 
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Peso: Bill's new toy

[Bill]

For the purist, this is a complete fail as it has absolutely no Pentax 
content.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/newtoy.html

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Entertaining new toy arrived...

[Bipin Gupta]

Hello Godfrey, congratulations for the 600mm Sigma Mirror Lens. I too
have one but in f 8.
I can use it on my K-5 in bright sunlight. Do use it with the clear
glass filter at the rear as
it tends to make the image a bit sharper.
Mine came for CAD 75 from a Toronto Star Gazer Professor in M42 Mount
with an Original
Pentax Japan K Converter- in Mint condition with the Hood.
Light and easy to hand hold but as you said a Tripod would be better.
I jack up the Saturation, Contrast and Sharpness in Bright mode on my
K-5 when using this
lens.
But I did not know there was a fast f 6 variant of this lens like yours??
Have fun with your toy.
Regards.
Bipin.
camp: Thornhill, Ontario

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Re: Entertaining new toy arrived...

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  Great fun and find!  Look forward to the photos and report.  cheers, 
Christine


On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> I saw a Sigma 600mm f6 mirror lens on eBay for $90 that looked to be in great 
> shape so I clicked the BIN button. It arrived yesterday—immaculate condition, 
> in the case with the four accessory filters. It's Nikon mount and I have the 
> adapters to fit it to both A7 and E-M1. So I stuck it on the E-M1 for a few 
> hand held test shots last evening. It's amazing how efficient that camera's 
> IBIS is... A couple of nice, shake free test shots with an effective 1200mm 
> FoV at 1/300-1/400 second. Of course it will work best on a tripod. 
> 
> The lens is light, focuses smoothly, and handles easily. It's a little 
> lacking in contrast like most Mirror lenses, but that's easily accommodated 
> in Lightroom. Seems reasonably sharp too, but I'll leave judgement on that to 
> when I use a proper tripod. 
> 
> Should be fun! For $90, cheap fun! :-)
> 
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Entertaining new toy arrived...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I saw a Sigma 600mm f6 mirror lens on eBay for $90 that looked to be in great 
shape so I clicked the BIN button. It arrived yesterday—immaculate condition, 
in the case with the four accessory filters. It's Nikon mount and I have the 
adapters to fit it to both A7 and E-M1. So I stuck it on the E-M1 for a few 
hand held test shots last evening. It's amazing how efficient that camera's 
IBIS is... A couple of nice, shake free test shots with an effective 1200mm FoV 
at 1/300-1/400 second. Of course it will work best on a tripod. 

The lens is light, focuses smoothly, and handles easily. It's a little lacking 
in contrast like most Mirror lenses, but that's easily accommodated in 
Lightroom. Seems reasonably sharp too, but I'll leave judgement on that to when 
I use a proper tripod. 

Should be fun! For $90, cheap fun! :-)

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Bob W]

On 18 Jan 2014, at 19:19, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

>> Holy cow, Chris! That is one hell of a nice little setup you have there.
>> 
>> You must have been pretty happy when they drew your name for that amp.
> 
> I bought the Tele second hand in 1974 so it was nearly new. Cost me
> 250 GBP I recall.
> 

Trouble is, whenever he twangs his humbucker now, the neighbours all know, and 
they've been giving him funny looks.

B

> I posted the back-story for the amp back in the summer. It's a good
> story - I can go through it again if you contact me off list.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Chris Mitchell]

> Holy cow, Chris! That is one hell of a nice little setup you have there.
>
> You must have been pretty happy when they drew your name for that amp.
>

I bought the Tele second hand in 1974 so it was nearly new. Cost me
250 GBP I recall.

I posted the back-story for the amp back in the summer. It's a good
story - I can go through it again if you contact me off list.

Chris

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

Thanks for the clarification, John.

From what I gather, the reissue humbuckers are just a tad warmer than 
the original WRHB. Still, based on what I've heard in the demos, they 
come pretty close.


-- Walt


On 1/18/2014 12:17 PM, John wrote:

The Telecaster Thinline was introduced in '69 with standard Telecaster
pickups. The '72 model was the last year of the original production &
was a Telecaster Deluxe model with the Wide Range pickups.

On 1/17/2014 2:53 PM, Walt wrote:

Thanks, Frank! You are correct!

Unless I'm mistaken, the '72 Thinline was the first Tele to come with
 dual humbuckers, and they were discontinued after about three
years.

And, based on what I've heard in demo videos, it retains a surprising
 amount of the Telecaster twang despite the humbuckers, but still has
the warmer, throatier sound than you'd get with the standard Tele
setup.

-- Walt


On 1/17/2014 1:43 PM, knarf wrote:

Are those twin double humbuckers that I see?

Nice looking axe!

Cheers, frank

Walt  wrote:

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well
enable myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal
on just the guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[John]

The Telecaster Thinline was introduced in '69 with standard Telecaster
pickups. The '72 model was the last year of the original production &
was a Telecaster Deluxe model with the Wide Range pickups.

On 1/17/2014 2:53 PM, Walt wrote:

Thanks, Frank! You are correct!

Unless I'm mistaken, the '72 Thinline was the first Tele to come with
 dual humbuckers, and they were discontinued after about three
years.

And, based on what I've heard in demo videos, it retains a surprising
 amount of the Telecaster twang despite the humbuckers, but still has
the warmer, throatier sound than you'd get with the standard Tele
setup.

-- Walt


On 1/17/2014 1:43 PM, knarf wrote:

Are those twin double humbuckers that I see?

Nice looking axe!

Cheers, frank

Walt  wrote:

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well
enable myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal
on just the guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[John]

I think Fender calls them "Fender Wide Range", but they are a humbucker 
design.


On 1/17/2014 2:43 PM, knarf wrote:

Are those twin double humbuckers that I see?

Nice looking axe!

Cheers,
frank

Walt  wrote:

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the
guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

On 1/18/2014 11:59 AM, John wrote:

On 1/17/2014 1:36 PM, Walt wrote:

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the
guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

-- Walt



What kind of amp are you playing through?

I've just got a little 30-watt Behringer practice amp with digital 
effects -- but, I'm eventually going to replace it with an Orange 
"Crush" series. I'll have to save up some more pennies before I get it, 
though.


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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[John]

On 1/17/2014 1:36 PM, Walt wrote:

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the
guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

-- Walt



What kind of amp are you playing through?

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

On 1/18/2014 1:11 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

On 17 January 2014 19:53, Walt  wrote:

Thanks, Frank! You are correct!

Unless I'm mistaken, the '72 Thinline was the first Tele to come with dual
humbuckers, and they were discontinued after about three years.

And, based on what I've heard in demo videos, it retains a surprising amount
of the Telecaster twang despite the humbuckers, but still has the warmer,
throatier sound than you'd get with the standard Tele setup.

-- Walt


Fender had a bit of a spate of humbuckers in the early 70s. The Deluxe
also had them from '72. Here's mine, an original '73 model with the
Marshall custom shop '67 Bluesbreaker amp that I won in the local
hospice raffle:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/MarshallAmp/slides/_IMG4720.html

You're right, the humbuckers still produce the Tele twang in the
middle selector position and the thinline hollow body adds a bit of
acoustic resonance as well. I think you'll enjoy it!

Chris


Holy cow, Chris! That is one hell of a nice little setup you have there.

You must have been pretty happy when they drew your name for that amp.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Chris Mitchell]

On 17 January 2014 19:53, Walt  wrote:
> Thanks, Frank! You are correct!
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, the '72 Thinline was the first Tele to come with dual
> humbuckers, and they were discontinued after about three years.
>
> And, based on what I've heard in demo videos, it retains a surprising amount
> of the Telecaster twang despite the humbuckers, but still has the warmer,
> throatier sound than you'd get with the standard Tele setup.
>
> -- Walt
>
Fender had a bit of a spate of humbuckers in the early 70s. The Deluxe
also had them from '72. Here's mine, an original '73 model with the
Marshall custom shop '67 Bluesbreaker amp that I won in the local
hospice raffle:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/MarshallAmp/slides/_IMG4720.html

You're right, the humbuckers still produce the Tele twang in the
middle selector position and the thinline hollow body adds a bit of
acoustic resonance as well. I think you'll enjoy it!

Chris

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

On 1/17/2014 3:23 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 17/1/14, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

SWEET!


Now, if I can just get Albert Lee to show me how to use it, I'll be all set.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Steve Cottrell]

On 17/1/14, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/
>
>It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?
>
>I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

On 1/17/2014 1:55 PM, CollinB wrote:

So if you are pessimistic about getting one for Christmas does that make you
humbugging?
I suppose it does -- which is why I'm just going to go ahead and get one 
now, rather than be a Scrooge.


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So if you are pessimistic about getting one for Christmas does that make you
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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

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I'm certainly going to do my best with it, Alan. :)

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On 1/17/2014 12:43 PM, Alan C wrote:

A real beauty. Sure to make good music.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Walt
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:36 PM
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Subject: OT: New Toy Enablement

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the
guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

Thanks, Frank! You are correct!

Unless I'm mistaken, the '72 Thinline was the first Tele to come with 
dual humbuckers, and they were discontinued after about three years.


And, based on what I've heard in demo videos, it retains a surprising 
amount of the Telecaster twang despite the humbuckers, but still has the 
warmer, throatier sound than you'd get with the standard Tele setup.


-- Walt


On 1/17/2014 1:43 PM, knarf wrote:

Are those twin double humbuckers that I see?

Nice looking axe!

Cheers,
frank

Walt  wrote:

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the
guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

-- Walt

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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[knarf]

Are those twin double humbuckers that I see?

Nice looking axe!

Cheers,
frank

Walt  wrote:
>As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable 
>myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the 
>guitar I've been lusting for:
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/
>
>It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?
>
>I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.
>
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Re: OT: New Toy Enablement

[Alan C]

A real beauty. Sure to make good music.

Alan C

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Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:36 PM
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Subject: OT: New Toy Enablement

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the
guitar I've been lusting for:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

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OT: New Toy Enablement

[Walt]

As I wait for the K-3 price to drop, I figure I might as well enable 
myself in another area. And I've finally found a good deal on just the 
guitar I've been lusting for:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11999890806/

It's a '72 Fender Telecaster Thinline Re-Issue. Ain't she purdy?

I figure she'll be arriving at my doorstep in about two weeks.

-- Walt

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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Larry Colen]

On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 04:51:28PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Martin Evening's books for Ps and Lr are exemplary. The companion
> workbooks with Jeff Schewe add even more value.

Silly me, I already have Evening's book on LR4.  Like I said, I
really need to sometime invest the time in actually learning how
to use these tools.

> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > Me, too.  I've used Martin Evening's books for each version of LR.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Jan 5, 2014, at 16:20 , Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 10:57:13PM +0200, Attila Boros wrote:
> >>> That is a big improvement. For pointers, look at this video:
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEnQI9qYEE
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> I do so hate instructional videos though. You'd think that expository
> >> writing was a lost art.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>  I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.
> 
>  I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
>  what I was trying to achieve:
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
> 
>  It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
>  is the photo after ausing it:
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
> 
>  Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
> 
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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Larry Colen]

But it's a new toy, I want to over do it!
I'll dial it back down in a few minutes, thanks all for the feedback.

Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>Agreed.  The second is better than the first but on my calibrated 
>monitor, I'd like to see the foreground darker, too.
>
>-p
>
>On 1/5/2014 3:13 PM, Miserere wrote:
>> Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use
>>> lightroom.
>>>
>>> I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint
>at
>>> what I was trying to achieve:
>>>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
>>>
>>> It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want. 
>Here
>>>
>>> is the photo after ausing it:
>>>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
>>>
>>> Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Oh yes, the graduated filter in ACR. I never leave home without it.
>>
>> 2nd version is very nice though on my phone it looks like I would've
>left the foreground a little darker. Personal taste and all that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Paul Sorenson]

Agreed.  The second is better than the first but on my calibrated 
monitor, I'd like to see the foreground darker, too.


-p

On 1/5/2014 3:13 PM, Miserere wrote:

Larry Colen  wrote:

I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use
lightroom.

I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
what I was trying to achieve:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424

It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here

is the photo after ausing it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424

Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.



Oh yes, the graduated filter in ACR. I never leave home without it.

2nd version is very nice though on my phone it looks like I would've left the 
foreground a little darker. Personal taste and all that.

Cheers,


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Re: New toy, graduated filter

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Martin Evening's books for Ps and Lr are exemplary. The companion
workbooks with Jeff Schewe add even more value.


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Me, too.  I've used Martin Evening's books for each version of LR.
>
> Rick
>
> On Jan 5, 2014, at 16:20 , Larry Colen wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 10:57:13PM +0200, Attila Boros wrote:
>>> That is a big improvement. For pointers, look at this video:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEnQI9qYEE
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I do so hate instructional videos though. You'd think that expository
>> writing was a lost art.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.

 I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
 what I was trying to achieve:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424

 It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
 is the photo after ausing it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424

 Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.

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Re: New toy, graduated filter

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Me, too.  I've used Martin Evening's books for each version of LR.

Rick

On Jan 5, 2014, at 16:20 , Larry Colen wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 10:57:13PM +0200, Attila Boros wrote:
>> That is a big improvement. For pointers, look at this video:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEnQI9qYEE
> 
> Thanks.  
> 
> I do so hate instructional videos though. You'd think that expository
> writing was a lost art.
> 
> 
>> 
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>>> I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.
>>> 
>>> I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
>>> what I was trying to achieve:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
>>> 
>>> It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
>>> is the photo after ausing it:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
>>> 
>>> Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
>>> 
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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Larry Colen]

On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 04:25:54PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Yup! Grad filter is kick-ass. Your alteration is good.
> 
> For even more fun try two grad filters: one from the horizon up and
> the other from the horizon down. In the upward one add a blue tinted
> filter to deepen the sky. Lower one will have +exposure in this case
> to brighten the foreground.

Thanks for the suggestions.

> 
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.
> >
> > I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
> > what I was trying to achieve:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
> >
> > It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
> > is the photo after ausing it:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
> >
> > Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Bruce Walker]

Yup! Grad filter is kick-ass. Your alteration is good.

For even more fun try two grad filters: one from the horizon up and
the other from the horizon down. In the upward one add a blue tinted
filter to deepen the sky. Lower one will have +exposure in this case
to brighten the foreground.

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.
>
> I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
> what I was trying to achieve:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
>
> It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
> is the photo after ausing it:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
>
> Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
>
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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Larry Colen]

On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 10:57:13PM +0200, Attila Boros wrote:
> That is a big improvement. For pointers, look at this video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEnQI9qYEE

Thanks.  

I do so hate instructional videos though. You'd think that expository
writing was a lost art.


> 
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.
> >
> > I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
> > what I was trying to achieve:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
> >
> > It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
> > is the photo after ausing it:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
> >
> > Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Miserere]

Larry Colen  wrote:
>I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use
>lightroom.
>
>I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at 
>what I was trying to achieve:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
>
>It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
>
>is the photo after ausing it:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
>
>Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.


Oh yes, the graduated filter in ACR. I never leave home without it. 

2nd version is very nice though on my phone it looks like I would've left the 
foreground a little darker. Personal taste and all that. 

Cheers,


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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Attila Boros]

And for LR / ACR in general get a copy of The Digital Negative by Jeff Schewe.

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Re: New toy, graduated filter

[Attila Boros]

That is a big improvement. For pointers, look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEnQI9qYEE

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.
>
> I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at
> what I was trying to achieve:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424
>
> It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here
> is the photo after ausing it:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424
>
> Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.
>
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New toy, graduated filter

[Larry Colen]

I really need to spend some time and actually learn how to use lightroom.

I had not been entirely pleased with this photo, though it did hint at 
what I was trying to achieve:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11769829993/in/set-72157639424720424

It turns out that the graduated filter does a lot of what I want.  Here 
is the photo after ausing it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11783610884/in/set-72157639424720424

Comments, pointers etc. appreciated.

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