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On Dec 23, 2007 5:24 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Its not driven by me thinking i'm the best, being the best isn't my goal. You're succeeding admirably... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 23, 2007 3:47 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt if that happened. I suspect the lawyers (not exactly a group known for risk taking) probably feel they have a good case. I think I agree with them. I see no significant difference from a legal standpoint between passing silly facts around on the internet (which you seem to feel is somehow OK) and publishing them in a book. I'm no expert in the law of defamation, but I recall that humour is a good defense to libel. I'm quite certain that Penguin's legal department would have had a quick look at the thing before publishing, and obviously they were satisfied that there was nothing actionable in the book. As for Chuck's lawyers (and lawyers in general), they don't care if they have a good case, they care if they have a retainer from their client. Lot's of flimsy lawsuits have been filed for reasons ~other than~ that they have a chance of winning in court. Last time I saw Mr. Norris, it was doing an infomercial for an exercise machine. I'm guessing that he'd do almost anything to revive a flagging career. The publicity of a lawsuit could be just what he wants. I agree with Mark. It'll never get to trial. It will settle (and the results of said settlement will never see the light of day - a standard term in any settlement is non-disclosure of terms by either party). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 12/28/2007 7:33:12 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I saw Mr. Norris, it was doing an infomercial for an exercise machine. I'm guessing that he'd do almost anything to revive a flagging career. The publicity of a lawsuit could be just what he wants. cheers, frank = Actually, they might be making a lot of money with those exercise machines. Marnie aka Doe Never underestimate the power of the infomercial. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. -Adam On 12/28/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2007 3:47 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt if that happened. I suspect the lawyers (not exactly a group known for risk taking) probably feel they have a good case. I think I agree with them. I see no significant difference from a legal standpoint between passing silly facts around on the internet (which you seem to feel is somehow OK) and publishing them in a book. I'm no expert in the law of defamation, but I recall that humour is a good defense to libel. I'm quite certain that Penguin's legal department would have had a quick look at the thing before publishing, and obviously they were satisfied that there was nothing actionable in the book. As for Chuck's lawyers (and lawyers in general), they don't care if they have a good case, they care if they have a retainer from their client. Lot's of flimsy lawsuits have been filed for reasons ~other than~ that they have a chance of winning in court. Last time I saw Mr. Norris, it was doing an infomercial for an exercise machine. I'm guessing that he'd do almost anything to revive a flagging career. The publicity of a lawsuit could be just what he wants. I agree with Mark. It'll never get to trial. It will settle (and the results of said settlement will never see the light of day - a standard term in any settlement is non-disclosure of terms by either party). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 28, 2007 11:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/28/2007 7:33:12 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I saw Mr. Norris, it was doing an infomercial for an exercise machine. I'm guessing that he'd do almost anything to revive a flagging career. The publicity of a lawsuit could be just what he wants. cheers, frank = Actually, they might be making a lot of money with those exercise machines. Marnie aka Doe Never underestimate the power of the infomercial. I have about 41 cable channels i can get from Rogers. At any given time, there seems to be a 1/3 of them taken up with infomercials and reality shows. I have a hard time with my own reality, let alone some other twit's. Dave - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 28, 2007 1:05 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Okay, you guys are right, that's what he's suing for (as it appears in this report, anyway). I still say he has no chance of doing anything other than settling for an undisclosed sum (meaning both sides walk away paying their own legal fees, while saving face). If Chuck had any sort of a career, he'd have better things to do with his time. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Aspirin was once a trade name. The company that owned it failed to protect it though flagerant infringement abounded. After some time they attempted to assert their trademark rights in court only to find they had lost them through negelect. The term was deemed to have become common usage with the company's tacit approval! Folks with trademarks *need* to protect them if they want to keep them. Regards, Bob... - Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 28, 2007 1:05 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Okay, you guys are right, that's what he's suing for (as it appears in this report, anyway). I still say he has no chance of doing anything other than settling for an undisclosed sum (meaning both sides walk away paying their own legal fees, while saving face). If Chuck had any sort of a career, he'd have better things to do with his time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 23, 2007 5:24 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Its not driven by me thinking i'm the best, being the best isn't my goal. You're succeeding admirably... ;-) Somebody once said of someone else he was a man of small ambition, and smaller achievement! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If he has a career, he has a manager and a lawyer, dealing with it. He's off fishing. That's what flunkies are for... frank theriault wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 1:05 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Okay, you guys are right, that's what he's suing for (as it appears in this report, anyway). I still say he has no chance of doing anything other than settling for an undisclosed sum (meaning both sides walk away paying their own legal fees, while saving face). If Chuck had any sort of a career, he'd have better things to do with his time. cheers, frank -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Parody is a protected form of expression. As long as the publisher can show they are parodying Chuck Norris's public persona, rather than trying to pass the work off as being in any way affiliated with Chuck Norris, they have a pretty good defence. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Parody is protected, but so are trademarks. If they've infringed, they'll lose, parody or no. Norris is entitled to protect the brand he has built. I'm on his side in this one. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Parody is a protected form of expression. As long as the publisher can show they are parodying Chuck Norris's public persona, rather than trying to pass the work off as being in any way affiliated with Chuck Norris, they have a pretty good defence. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/28/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Parody is a protected form of expression. As long as the publisher can show they are parodying Chuck Norris's public persona, rather than trying to pass the work off as being in any way affiliated with Chuck Norris, they have a pretty good defence. Indeed that's true. But that really depends on the court (While it's written law, it is something that gets ignored semi-regularly). This is a poster-child case for out of court settlement as Frank suggests. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I suspect the issue here is not libel, but rather the unauthorized use of Chuck's name to make a profit (Which is potentially legally actionable, it's the profit issue, not the distribution that makes the case.). This is the same reason why model releases are needed for Commercial Photography. That was my assumption also: That they're going for a trademark violation, essentially. Parody is a protected form of expression. As long as the publisher can show they are parodying Chuck Norris's public persona, rather than trying to pass the work off as being in any way affiliated with Chuck Norris, they have a pretty good defence. ... for libel or copyright issues. Which is why Norris is going for the trademark angle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pardon.? Sorry, i had to. :-) Dave On Dec 26, 2007 6:36 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part of freedom of speech, is the freedom to not be forced to listen. Doug Franklin wrote: graywolf wrote: some reason the people who start yelling Freedom of speech never want to allow it to the other guy. I don't recall the attribution, but there's an old quotation running around to the effect that the most difficult part of freedom is allowing your neighbors to be as free as you want them to allow you to be. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The issue as I see it is not with those that kill file him, but with the others that won't let it go respond. Happens often around here. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OMG... On Dec 26, 2007 3:51 PM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Waller wrote: Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. No response will work even better. At this point, I don't care if he's here. His messages won't make it to me, so he might as well be gone. ;-) gmail has a great filter system.:-) Dave -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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graywolf wrote: some reason the people who start yelling Freedom of speech never want to allow it to the other guy. I don't recall the attribution, but there's an old quotation running around to the effect that the most difficult part of freedom is allowing your neighbors to be as free as you want them to allow you to be. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ken Waller wrote: Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. No response will work even better. At this point, I don't care if he's here. His messages won't make it to me, so he might as well be gone. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Savage wrote: On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. Ahhh another internet tough guy... That was seriously uncalled for. OK, now I have to update my filter to even get rid of the replies to that, um, individual. Drat. I'm sure I'm gonna miss some really good rejoinders. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 26, 2007 3:51 PM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Waller wrote: Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. No response will work even better. At this point, I don't care if he's here. His messages won't make it to me, so he might as well be gone. ;-) gmail has a great filter system.:-) Dave -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Setting up a new account there for PDML mail at this very moment Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 26, 2007 3:51 PM, Doug Franklin At this point, I don't care if he's here. His messages won't make it to me, so he might as well be gone. ;-) gmail has a great filter system.:-) Dave -- -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Part of freedom of speech, is the freedom to not be forced to listen. Doug Franklin wrote: graywolf wrote: some reason the people who start yelling Freedom of speech never want to allow it to the other guy. I don't recall the attribution, but there's an old quotation running around to the effect that the most difficult part of freedom is allowing your neighbors to be as free as you want them to allow you to be. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 24, 2007, at 2:26 PM, keith_w wrote: Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... yes. G Now there's a cogent response. Many thanks, Godfrey. If you don't have time to provide an appropriate and rational answer, why not just ignore it? I thought it an appropriate and rational answer: I confirmed your conjecture. Sorry you find that offensive. No, I didn't find it offensive, just a bit curt. I don't use the mail client you do so I cannot tell you how to do it with that mail client. If you were using Apple's Mail client, I would be happy to tell you. G Okay then. Thank you. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: On 12/24/07, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 24, 2007, at 10:48 AM, keith_w wrote: If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... yes. G Now *there's* a cogent response. Many thanks, Godfrey. If you don't have time to provide an appropriate and rational answer, why not just ignore it? keith Keith, Given the incredible option in email clients/servers, Godfrey gave the only cogent response possible from a general perspective. I can think offhand of a dozen ways to do this, from using procmail, regex's and perl to Outlook filters. How to do it entirely depends on what software you're using. -Adam Okay, your point is well taken. I over-reacted. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/24 Mon AM 04:46:47 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: OMG... Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. No response will work even better. Kenneth Waller Sorry, I can't help laughing. I keep picturing him shouting at his monitor. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I'd rather apply the solution Bill uses with those morons who bounce list mail. If we all did that, wouldn't lollyhead have a wonderful time? g If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. This latest manchild got filter #3 Yes. That the rule I was referring to. Thank you so much for the idea. I've had several opportunities to use it over the last year or so. It's always good for a chuckle, at the very least. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Scott Loveless wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I'd rather apply the solution Bill uses with those morons who bounce list mail. If we all did that, wouldn't lollyhead have a wonderful time? g If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... keith whaley SeaMonkey 1.1.7 This latest manchild got filter #3 Yes. That the rule I was referring to. Thank you so much for the idea. I've had several opportunities to use it over the last year or so. It's always good for a chuckle, at the very least. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 24, 2007, at 10:48 AM, keith_w wrote: If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... yes. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: OT: OMG... If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... I don't know if this will work on a Mac, I expect it would. I use a gmail account with POP forwarding as my mail server. Gmail filters out people that I have decided don't deserve me by both email address and by name in the message body. This catches both original messages and (most of the) replies. Gmail then forwards the rest to me, and I can use a standard email program for email, rather than a web based interface which I really dislike. Gmail also has a very effective spam filter, so spam is quite well controlled. For personal and business mail, I still have an account via my ISP, so I'm not concerned about my stuff sitting on Gmail's server forever. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would never do such a thing. It is called a Denial of Service Attack and can cause massive disruption to the web, not just to the person you are pissed at. If you find someone chronically annoying just killfile his name. Don't forget to kill anything with his name in the body of the message as well or you still get to read all the idiots who respond to his baiting. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Scott Loveless wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I'd rather apply the solution Bill uses with those morons who bounce list mail. If we all did that, wouldn't lollyhead have a wonderful time? g If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. This latest manchild got filter #3 Yes. That the rule I was referring to. Thank you so much for the idea. I've had several opportunities to use it over the last year or so. It's always good for a chuckle, at the very least. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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graywolf wrote: I would never do such a thing. It is called a Denial of Service Attack and can cause massive disruption to the web, not just to the person you are pissed at. If you find someone chronically annoying just killfile his name. Don't forget to kill anything with his name in the body of the message as well or you still get to read all the idiots who respond to his baiting. Graywolf Not sure I totally agree with the Denial of Service Attack business, but...why argue. I always do a complete PLONK when I tire of some low life online. I never receive another message from him or her, directly or otherwise. Once I put the prohibition against the body of the message, all gone, as you pointed out. What's hard to imagine is all those who DON'T find such things offensive, and continue to correspond with and answer messages from this person! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 24, 2007, at 10:48 AM, keith_w wrote: If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... yes. G Now *there's* a cogent response. Many thanks, Godfrey. If you don't have time to provide an appropriate and rational answer, why not just ignore it? keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:21:27 -0800 keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: graywolf wrote: I would never do such a thing. It is called a Denial of Service Attack and can cause massive disruption to the web, not just to the person you are pissed at. If you find someone chronically annoying just killfile his name. Don't forget to kill anything with his name in the body of the message as well or you still get to read all the idiots who respond to his baiting. Graywolf Not sure I totally agree with the Denial of Service Attack business, but...why argue. I always do a complete PLONK when I tire of some low life online. It is, but i'll take that up with your ISP, not you. :) I never receive another message from him or her, directly or otherwise. Once I put the prohibition against the body of the message, all gone, as you pointed out. What's hard to imagine is all those who DON'T find such things offensive, and continue to correspond with and answer messages from this person! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/12/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't know if this will work on a Mac, I expect it would. I use a gmail account with POP forwarding as my mail server. Gmail filters out people that I have decided don't deserve me by both email address and by name in the message body. This catches both original messages and (most of the) replies. Gmail then forwards the rest to me, and I can use a standard email program for email, rather than a web based interface which I really dislike. Gmail also has a very effective spam filter, so spam is quite well controlled. For personal and business mail, I still have an account via my ISP, so I'm not concerned about my stuff sitting on Gmail's server forever. Like the man said, all depends on your email app. I use Powermail. If you're on a Mac, and used to like Claris Emailer, this is for you. very powerful filters, auto-replies etc. www.ctmdev.com HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 24, 2007, at 2:26 PM, keith_w wrote: Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... yes. G Now *there's* a cogent response. Many thanks, Godfrey. If you don't have time to provide an appropriate and rational answer, why not just ignore it? I thought it an appropriate and rational answer: I confirmed your conjecture. Sorry you find that offensive. I don't use the mail client you do so I cannot tell you how to do it with that mail client. If you were using Apple's Mail client, I would be happy to tell you. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No, bouncing is not a DoS unless you intentionally cause a mail routing loop. It's just being generally disagreeable. -Adam On 12/24/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never do such a thing. It is called a Denial of Service Attack and can cause massive disruption to the web, not just to the person you are pissed at. If you find someone chronically annoying just killfile his name. Don't forget to kill anything with his name in the body of the message as well or you still get to read all the idiots who respond to his baiting. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Scott Loveless wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I'd rather apply the solution Bill uses with those morons who bounce list mail. If we all did that, wouldn't lollyhead have a wonderful time? g If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. This latest manchild got filter #3 Yes. That the rule I was referring to. Thank you so much for the idea. I've had several opportunities to use it over the last year or so. It's always good for a chuckle, at the very least. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/24/07, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 24, 2007, at 10:48 AM, keith_w wrote: If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. Beyond my ken. How does one do that? I suspect it wholly depends on what/which email client you use... yes. G Now *there's* a cogent response. Many thanks, Godfrey. If you don't have time to provide an appropriate and rational answer, why not just ignore it? keith Keith, Given the incredible option in email clients/servers, Godfrey gave the only cogent response possible from a general perspective. I can think offhand of a dozen ways to do this, from using procmail, regex's and perl to Outlook filters. How to do it entirely depends on what software you're using. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Savage wrote: ...he's turning soft. Which he is that? Chuck Norris? Why do you say that? http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:33:00 -0800 keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: ...he's turning soft. Which he is that? Chuck Norris? Why do you say that? http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. Ahhh another internet tough guy... That was seriously uncalled for. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 23, 2007 7:33 PM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: ...he's turning soft. Which he is that? Chuck Norris? Why do you say that? http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. I agree but as soon as I read it I had images of lawers getting the better of his powerful roundhouse kick :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:14 +0900 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. Ahhh another internet tough guy... That was seriously uncalled for. Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you deserve to die of nut cancer. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well... As one who has suffered from precisely that affliction, I find your suggestion (along with almost everything else your foul mouth spews out) highly offensive. Why don't you do us all a favour and piss off. Cheers (no, I take that back) Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you deserve to die of nut cancer. -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That was a very insensitive thing to say. Absolutely unacceptable in polite company. This is ostensibly a family-friendly list. Perhaps you have not had the experience of having somebody you know wither away and die from cancer. If that's true, you've been very lucky so far. I hope that luck holds out for you. If you have, then I would say that you are possibly the most insensitive person out there. I try really hard not to get swept-up in the average flame war. We have many people on this list from all over the world. Most of the regular posters are quite easy to get along with. True, some are more work to deal with but they generally have some redeeming qualities that make the work worthwhile. Many of us have been coexisting here for a very long time. You need to go back from whence you came and learn how to get along with people. Your redeeming qualities have so far remained quite hidden. Maybe you're not as difficult in person but your internet bravado isn't endearing at all. Please make some attempt to get along with people or hit the road. When you've gathered what it takes to be part of a community, you're welcome to return to talk about cameras and pictures. This isn't really a personal thing. Honestly, I'm more interested in the equilibrium of the list than poking at you. Please have a nice Christmas. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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keith_w wrote: David Savage wrote: ...he's turning soft. Which he is that? Chuck Norris? Why do you say that? http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. My first thought was that it was a suit against people passing those silly facts about Chuck Norris around the Internet, which would be silly and frivolous. But Penguin books *publishing* the stuff without clearing it with Chuck Norris? They *do* deserve to be sued. (And whoever greenlighted the project without running it by the company lawyers should be shown the door...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 23, 2007 7:13 AM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:14 +0900 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. Ahhh another internet tough guy... That was seriously uncalled for. Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you deserve to die of nut cancer. I think its time you sell your P30 and buy a Nikon D40x. You'll fit right in on those BB's. No off to set up my kill files. Dave Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 23/12/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Most of the regular posters are quite easy to get along with. True, some are more work to deal with but they generally have some redeeming qualities that make the work worthwhile. Aw, thanks Ceeb ! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 12/23/2007 2:34:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. keith whaley == Ditto. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I predict that we will be hearing Polyhead jokes here on the list for a long time. You have stepped over the boundaries of acceptable behavior for this list. One of the rights you are ignoring is the right to petition the courts for redress of injuries. Also freedom of speech does not include the right to slander or libel, to threaten, or to curse people, all of those are clearly actionable. It is merely the right to express your opinion without being arrested for it. AND, it goes both ways, others have the right to express their opinions also; for some reason the people who start yelling Freedom of speech never want to allow it to the other guy. I have not published this link in a long while but I guess we can all use a reminder now and then: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Polyhead wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:14 +0900 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. Ahhh another internet tough guy... That was seriously uncalled for. Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you deserve to die of nut cancer. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob S. On Dec 23, 2007 5:23 AM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Agreed. Another bit of idiocy from this child. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob S. On Dec 23, 2007 5:23 AM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My mother had cancer, I saw what it did to her. Its exactly the sort of fate i would wish upon anyone that would do anything to restrict freedom of speech. I would say I hope they die in a far, but thats much too quick. No, no, i want to see lawyers and freedom haters suffer, and suffer horribly. That was a very insensitive thing to say. Absolutely unacceptable in polite company. This is ostensibly a family-friendly list. Perhaps you have not had the experience of having somebody you know wither away and die from cancer. If that's true, you've been very lucky so far. I hope that luck holds out for you. If you have, then I would say that you are possibly the most insensitive person out there. I try really hard not to get swept-up in the average flame war. We have many people on this list from all over the world. Most of the regular posters are quite easy to get along with. True, some are more work to deal with but they generally have some redeeming qualities that make the work worthwhile. Many of us have been coexisting here for a very long time. You need to go back from whence you came and learn how to get along with people. Your redeeming qualities have so far remained quite hidden. Maybe you're not as difficult in person but your internet bravado isn't endearing at all. Please make some attempt to get along with people or hit the road. When you've gathered what it takes to be part of a community, you're welcome to return to talk about cameras and pictures. This isn't really a personal thing. Honestly, I'm more interested in the equilibrium of the list than poking at you. Please have a nice Christmas. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob Sullivan wrote: Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob, a little bit of Googling would have revealed that this character has a long history of deliberately disrupting various discussion fora with this kind of baiting. Some people get their kicks that way. When everyone has him killfiled he'll interpret the lack of response to his sociopathic behavior as victory and move on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It is kind of hard to roundhouse kick a a large corporation, and dealing with each employee an office at a time seems too much like a career David Savage wrote: ...he's turning soft. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 03:15:54PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob, a little bit of Googling would have revealed that this character has a long history of deliberately disrupting various discussion fora with this kind of baiting. Some people get their kicks that way. As I said . . . a classic Internet troll. Killfile him and move on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:25:04AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: keith_w wrote: David Savage wrote: ...he's turning soft. Which he is that? Chuck Norris? Why do you say that? http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful. My first thought was that it was a suit against people passing those silly facts about Chuck Norris around the Internet, which would be silly and frivolous. But Penguin books *publishing* the stuff without clearing it with Chuck Norris? They *do* deserve to be sued. (And whoever greenlighted the project without running it by the company lawyers should be shown the door...) I doubt if that happened. I suspect the lawyers (not exactly a group known for risk taking) probably feel they have a good case. I think I agree with them. I see no significant difference from a legal standpoint between passing silly facts around on the internet (which you seem to feel is somehow OK) and publishing them in a book. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Francis wrote: I see no significant difference from a legal standpoint between passing silly facts around on the internet (which you seem to feel is somehow OK) and publishing them in a book. You're joking, right? It's called profit. Penguin's lawyers will never let this even get to court. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Poly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OMG... irrelevant stuff snipped Who the hell let a four year old onto the list? Bob Blakely posted this some years ago in reply to Antonio Aparicio. It bears repeating, given the recent arrival of the polymanchild, who, like Antonio, seems to be a person of limited intellectual resources. All groups of people have unwritten rules of social interaction. Most rules of social interaction revolve around respect. If someone treats another without respect, ALL members of the group take note. If the disrespecting member is new, this behavior is all the group knows of them and they will form their impressions accordingly. If the member is long standing, the group has a base wherein to judge the behavior as not usual for the offender. Members may not like the disruption in the group, but will understand when a member defends him/herself when attacked, but they will be irritated if it goes on too long. That's because the group is more important than the individual. Respected members of the group apologize, not just for their transgressions, but also for being part of an offensive interchange. They do this without any but's, if's or however's or other self justifications. Most folks learn this in kindergarten. Some do not. They sit around wondering why folks are reacting to them the way they are, and spend much of their interchange blaming others. Some folks are simply abrasive by nature. Others are just so narcissistic that they cannot see or acknowledge, even to themselves, their abrasiveness and transgressions and are therefore incapable of changing or apologizing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I predict that we will be hearing Polyhead jokes here on the list for a long time. Lets hope not. Instead, may I suggest that we all just block the asshole from our inboxes and forget that this particular putrid excuse for humanity exists. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I predict that we will be hearing Polyhead jokes here on the list for a long time. Lets hope not. Instead, may I suggest that we all just block the asshole from our inboxes and forget that this particular putrid excuse for humanity exists. William Robb I'd rather apply the solution Bill uses with those morons who bounce list mail. If we all did that, wouldn't lollyhead have a wonderful time? g -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT: OMG... I'd rather apply the solution Bill uses with those morons who bounce list mail. If we all did that, wouldn't lollyhead have a wonderful time? g I have a multi level solution, depending on the degree of transgression. Some people just hit the bit bucket because I've decided I want no more mail from them. The next level is a more complex filtering method that involves filtering both the person and any replies that they may generate. If I am really annoyed, I both filter your email to trash and configure the filter to bounce it back to the sender. This latest manchild got filter #3 Using gmail as a pop server makes setting up filters such as this very easy and effective. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:29:05 -0600 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Poly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OMG... irrelevant stuff snipped Who the hell let a four year old onto the list? Bob Blakely posted this some years ago in reply to Antonio Aparicio. It bears repeating, given the recent arrival of the polymanchild, who, like Antonio, seems to be a person of limited intellectual resources. All groups of people have unwritten rules of social interaction. Most rules of social interaction revolve around respect. If someone treats another without respect, ALL members of the group take note. If the disrespecting member is new, this behavior is all the group knows of them and they will form their impressions accordingly. If the member is long standing, the group has a base wherein to judge the behavior as not usual for the offender. Members may not like the disruption in the group, but will understand when a member defends him/herself when attacked, but they will be irritated if it goes on too long. That's because the group is more important than the individual. Respected members of the group apologize, not just for their transgressions, but also for being part of an offensive interchange. They do this without any but's, if's or however's or other self justifications. Most folks learn this in kindergarten. Some do not. They sit around wondering why folks are reacting to them the way they are, and spend much of their interchange blaming others. Some folks are simply abrasive by nature. Others are just so narcissistic that they cannot see or acknowledge, even to themselves, their abrasiveness and transgressions and are therefore incapable of changing or apologizing. See, you make one mistake thinking that aplies. You assume i give a damn if any of you like me or not. I know i'm opinionated and abrasive, even beligerant. I prefer it that way. Its not driven by me thinking i'm the best, being the best isn't my goal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 04:23:42PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: I see no significant difference from a legal standpoint between passing silly facts around on the internet (which you seem to feel is somehow OK) and publishing them in a book. You're joking, right? It's called profit. Irrelevant from a legal standpoint. The only difference is how much it can cost you in civil penatlies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Uh, make that Bingo, you're there. Whew, almost let him back in:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't want to be liked. You want to be invisible. Bingo, you're their. Killfile for polly. I suggest all oehrs do the same and avoid responding to his posts. Then, like other assholes who've infected the list, he'll simply disappear. Bye, bye, Polly. Paul -- Original message -- From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:29:05 -0600 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Poly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OMG... irrelevant stuff snipped Who the hell let a four year old onto the list? Bob Blakely posted this some years ago in reply to Antonio Aparicio. It bears repeating, given the recent arrival of the polymanchild, who, like Antonio, seems to be a person of limited intellectual resources. All groups of people have unwritten rules of social interaction. Most rules of social interaction revolve around respect. If someone treats another without respect, ALL members of the group take note. If the disrespecting member is new, this behavior is all the group knows of them and they will form their impressions accordingly. If the member is long standing, the group has a base wherein to judge the behavior as not usual for the offender. Members may not like the disruption in the group, but will understand when a member defends him/herself when attacked, but they will be irritated if it goes on too long. That's because the group is more important than the individual. Respected members of the group apologize, not just for their transgressions, but also for being part of an offensive interchange. They do this without any but's, if's or however's or other self justifications. Most folks learn this in kindergarten. Some do not. They sit around wondering why folks are reacting to them the way they are, and spend much of their interchange blaming others. Some folks are simply abrasive by nature. Others are just so narcissistic that they cannot see or acknowledge, even to themselves, their abrasiveness and transgressions and are therefore incapable of changing or apologizing. See, you make one mistake thinking that aplies. You assume i give a damn if any of you like me or not. I know i'm opinionated and abrasive, even beligerant. I prefer it that way. Its not driven by me thinking i'm the best, being the best isn't my goal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: PolyManChild See, you make one mistake thinking that aplies. You assume i give a damn if any of you like me or not. I know i'm opinionated and abrasive, even beligerant. I prefer it that way. Its not driven by me thinking i'm the best, being the best isn't my goal. No, I just momentarily gave you the benefit of the doubt that you actually have an opposable thumb. Now that you have proven that supposition to be erroneous, nothing more from you, or replied to you from within this mailing list will make it past my email filters. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You don't want to be liked. You want to be invisible. Bingo, you're their. Killfile for polly. I suggest all oehrs do the same and avoid responding to his posts. Then, like other assholes who've infected the list, he'll simply disappear. Bye, bye, Polly. Paul -- Original message -- From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:29:05 -0600 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Poly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OMG... irrelevant stuff snipped Who the hell let a four year old onto the list? Bob Blakely posted this some years ago in reply to Antonio Aparicio. It bears repeating, given the recent arrival of the polymanchild, who, like Antonio, seems to be a person of limited intellectual resources. All groups of people have unwritten rules of social interaction. Most rules of social interaction revolve around respect. If someone treats another without respect, ALL members of the group take note. If the disrespecting member is new, this behavior is all the group knows of them and they will form their impressions accordingly. If the member is long standing, the group has a base wherein to judge the behavior as not usual for the offender. Members may not like the disruption in the group, but will understand when a member defends him/herself when attacked, but they will be irritated if it goes on too long. That's because the group is more important than the individual. Respected members of the group apologize, not just for their transgressions, but also for being part of an offensive interchange. They do this without any but's, if's or however's or other self justifications. Most folks learn this in kindergarten. Some do not. They sit around wondering why folks are reacting to them the way they are, and spend much of their interchange blaming others. Some folks are simply abrasive by nature. Others are just so narcissistic that they cannot see or acknowledge, even to themselves, their abrasiveness and transgressions and are therefore incapable of changing or apologizing. See, you make one mistake thinking that aplies. You assume i give a damn if any of you like me or not. I know i'm opinionated and abrasive, even beligerant. I prefer it that way. Its not driven by me thinking i'm the best, being the best isn't my goal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 23, 2007 3:15 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob, a little bit of Googling would have revealed that this character has a long history of deliberately disrupting various discussion fora with this kind of baiting. Some people get their kicks that way. Did that Mark, thus, killfile Dave When everyone has him killfiled he'll interpret the lack of response to his sociopathic behavior as victory and move on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 24, 2007 5:23 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is kind of hard to roundhouse kick a a large corporation, and dealing with each employee an office at a time seems too much like a career For you and me maybe. But this is Chuck Norris we're talking about. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob, a little bit of Googling would have revealed that this character has a long history of deliberately disrupting various discussion fora with this kind of baiting. Some people get their kicks that way. When everyone has him killfiled he'll interpret the lack of response to his sociopathic behavior as victory and move on. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Damn, I forgot. David Savage wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 5:23 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is kind of hard to roundhouse kick a a large corporation, and dealing with each employee an office at a time seems too much like a career For you and me maybe. But this is Chuck Norris we're talking about. :-) Cheers, Dave -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. No response will work even better. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: OMG... Some people will never killfile him. He'll be here forever. Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Hey d**khead, Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years. You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now. Bob, a little bit of Googling would have revealed that this character has a long history of deliberately disrupting various discussion fora with this kind of baiting. Some people get their kicks that way. When everyone has him killfiled he'll interpret the lack of response to his sociopathic behavior as victory and move on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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...he's turning soft. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. ...he's turning soft. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been subverted by a more insidious force: Lawyers??? Cheers, Dave (well it made me laugh :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ben: First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. What a queer thing to say, Ben. Regards, Bob... - Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Bob Blakely wrote: Ben: First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. What a queer thing to say, Ben. I may be a homosexual, but I thought it a bit mary too. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ben: First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. What a queer thing to say, Ben. I may be a homosexual, but I thought it a bit mary too. Yes but where's your pride? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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HAR! Regards, Bob... - Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Bob Blakely wrote: Ben: First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. What a queer thing to say, Ben. I may be a homosexual, but I thought it a bit mary too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:16:54 -0800 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Bob Blakely wrote: Ben: First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. What a queer thing to say, Ben. I may be a homosexual, but I thought it a bit mary too. well you have to have a disclaimer for the word faggot these days. Heh, i called someone a fag in public once, and like 30 people surouned me, then i said hey, get off my ass. that REALLY pissed them off. It was my best freind i was calling a fag, we ride bmx together, and we like go around throwing elbos and tail whips at eachother calling eachother fags. ... I guess by age 29 we should grow out of such humor but... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:01:34 + Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben: First let me say, I am homosexual... Next let me say, what a faggot. What a queer thing to say, Ben. I may be a homosexual, but I thought it a bit mary too. Yes but where's your pride? you do NOT want me to answer that! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died...
John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:45:48 +0400, you wrote: 1. Give the darn thing to the hands of capable technician if you have one available. They don't exist anymore. If they ever did. My S.O. refers to the University of Pittsburgh's I.S. technical support line as dial-a-chimp. 'nuff said. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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It is a rule of the employment world, if you know what you are doing they won't hire you. You would just make the boss look bad. -- Mark Roberts wrote: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:45:48 +0400, you wrote: 1. Give the darn thing to the hands of capable technician if you have one available. They don't exist anymore. If they ever did. My S.O. refers to the University of Pittsburgh's I.S. technical support line as dial-a-chimp. 'nuff said. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
OT - omg, i think my laptop just died...
laptop experts unite! I have just been changing some software around on my laptop, in preparation for GFM, and began to run a disk clean up. I walked away from it and came back to a blank screen. Thinking it had just shut down to save on the battery, I turned it back on and it began to reboot but then came up with this blue Stop screen. When I try all of the options that it suggests, it just keeps coming back to the same screen. It won't even allow me to boot in safe mode. I am running Win 2000 Pro, on this machine. It appears to begin to boot normally, gets as far as the Windows logo screen and then, bam, the error page comes up. The error page is blue with white writing that reads: ***STOP: 0x0050 (0xC1080212,0x, 0x804Ac321,0x) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA ***Address 804Ac321 base at 8040, DateStamp 3ee6c002 - ntoskrnle.exe If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows 2000 updates you might need. If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode. Refer to your Getting Started manual for more information on troubleshooting Stop errors. Well, it won't let me reboot to Safe Mode or any other mode for that matter, and when I press F12 to enter the BIOS at startup it says: Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0 (build 071) PXE-E61: Media Test Failure: Check cable. Plase don't tell me I've blown a motherboard or CPU help! tan.
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If you had blown anything up, you wouldn't get the page fault screen, I don't think. I've always found that Windows problems are best fixed by a C drive format and re installation of the OS. Hoiwever, this is a fairly major undertaking, hopefully you will get better advice than this. William Robb - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography Subject: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died... laptop experts unite! I have just been changing some software around on my laptop, in preparation for GFM, and began to run a disk clean up. I walked away from it and came back to a blank screen. Thinking it had just shut down to save on the battery, I turned it back on and it began to reboot but then came up with this blue Stop screen. When I try all of the options that it suggests, it just keeps coming back to the same screen. It won't even allow me to boot in safe mode. I am running Win 2000 Pro, on this machine. It appears to begin to boot normally, gets as far as the Windows logo screen and then, bam, the error page comes up. The error page is blue with white writing that reads: ***STOP: 0x0050 (0xC1080212,0x, 0x804Ac321,0x) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA ***Address 804Ac321 base at 8040, DateStamp 3ee6c002 - ntoskrnle.exe If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows 2000 updates you might need. If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode. Refer to your Getting Started manual for more information on troubleshooting Stop errors. Well, it won't let me reboot to Safe Mode or any other mode for that matter, and when I press F12 to enter the BIOS at startup it says: Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0 (build 071) PXE-E61: Media Test Failure: Check cable. Plase don't tell me I've blown a motherboard or CPU help! tan.
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Yo. The error you get when you boot Windows *could* be a memory problem, although that error message can be caused by a large number of things. The error that you get when you press F12 is rather more curious - it means that the computer is trying and failing to boot from the network instead of the local hard disk. Is F12 definitely the key that lets you enter the BIOS? S Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: laptop experts unite! I have just been changing some software around on my laptop, in preparation for GFM, and began to run a disk clean up. I walked away from it and came back to a blank screen. Thinking it had just shut down to save on the battery, I turned it back on and it began to reboot but then came up with this blue Stop screen. When I try all of the options that it suggests, it just keeps coming back to the same screen. It won't even allow me to boot in safe mode. I am running Win 2000 Pro, on this machine. It appears to begin to boot normally, gets as far as the Windows logo screen and then, bam, the error page comes up. The error page is blue with white writing that reads: ***STOP: 0x0050 (0xC1080212,0x, 0x804Ac321,0x) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA ***Address 804Ac321 base at 8040, DateStamp 3ee6c002 - ntoskrnle.exe If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows 2000 updates you might need. If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode. Refer to your Getting Started manual for more information on troubleshooting Stop errors. Well, it won't let me reboot to Safe Mode or any other mode for that matter, and when I press F12 to enter the BIOS at startup it says: Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0 (build 071) PXE-E61: Media Test Failure: Check cable. Plase don't tell me I've blown a motherboard or CPU help! tan.
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Hi Tan, I can't help you, only commiserate. There seems to be a lot of that going around lately ;-(( shel (who lost all the CD drives on 'puter #3 yesterday) Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: laptop experts unite! The error page is blue with white writing that reads: ***STOP: 0x0050 (0xC1080212,0x, 0x804Ac321,0x) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA [big snip]
Re: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died...
Sometimes just reinstalling the OS works. I'd certainly try that (if possible) before reformatting and having to reload all the programs and files again. shel William Robb wrote: If you had blown anything up, you wouldn't get the page fault screen, I don't think. I've always found that Windows problems are best fixed by a C drive format and re installation of the OS. Hoiwever, this is a fairly major undertaking, hopefully you will get better advice than this.
Re: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died...
Tan, I know this will probably sound like the unlikeliest of answers, but I suspect you need an older version of your display driver. A while ago I had the same problem on my laptop after installing the ATI graphics display driver Windows Update prompted me to install. The computer would load up normally showing the red and black Compaq screen, then the white with graphics Windows 2000 loading screen, then after that the screen goes blue with that error, and the computer restarts and it keeps going on in some loop. I think what I did was let it start and repeatedly tap F8 in the hope of catching the safe mode option. After that I reverted to some old drivers I had saved and it went back to normal, much to my relief. After that I discovered Windows update and Compaq both offered display drivers which caused that problem for some strange reason. These days I just avoid installing them when doing updates. If you can't get into safemode, what you probably could try is booting from a diskette and try installing the drivers from the command prompt. Another desperate option is leaving your Windows 2000 installation disk in the drive and let it boot and reinstall Windows (which unfortunately means reinstalling programs). Ry - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:55 AM Subject: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died... laptop experts unite! I have just been changing some software around on my laptop, in preparation for GFM, and began to run a disk clean up. I walked away from it and came back to a blank screen. Thinking it had just shut down to save on the battery, I turned it back on and it began to reboot but then came up with this blue Stop screen. When I try all of the options that it suggests, it just keeps coming back to the same screen. It won't even allow me to boot in safe mode. I am running Win 2000 Pro, on this machine. It appears to begin to boot normally, gets as far as the Windows logo screen and then, bam, the error page comes up. The error page is blue with white writing that reads: ***STOP: 0x0050 (0xC1080212,0x, 0x804Ac321,0x) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA ***Address 804Ac321 base at 8040, DateStamp 3ee6c002 - ntoskrnle.exe If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows 2000 updates you might need. If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode. Refer to your Getting Started manual for more information on troubleshooting Stop errors. Well, it won't let me reboot to Safe Mode or any other mode for that matter, and when I press F12 to enter the BIOS at startup it says: Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0 (build 071) PXE-E61: Media Test Failure: Check cable. Plase don't tell me I've blown a motherboard or CPU help! tan.
RE: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died...
yeah, but how do i reformat when i can't even get to a dos prompt? i'll reformat if i have to - it is no biggie really cause i don't have any data on my lappy... i was about to ebay this laptop to go toward my GFM trip - i can't believe how many obstacles keep arising to do with $$$ for this trip. Last week a speeding fine, last Wednesday our landline died and it was only fixed this morning (yes, we have had no phone for over a week!), so I ring a lady who had enquired for a wedding booking last week, she was just about to pay me a deposit for the gig, and she says oh, sorry, you didn't ring me back so I booked someone else, and now this! SOMEBODY doesn't want me going to GFM, it's sabotage I tell ya. Cotty, you don't practice telekenesis by any chance do you? tan. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died... If you had blown anything up, you wouldn't get the page fault screen, I don't think. I've always found that Windows problems are best fixed by a C drive format and re installation of the OS. Hoiwever, this is a fairly major undertaking, hopefully you will get better advice than this. William Robb - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography Subject: OT - omg, i think my laptop just died... laptop experts unite! I have just been changing some software around on my laptop, in preparation for GFM, and began to run a disk clean up. I walked away from it and came back to a blank screen. Thinking it had just shut down to save on the battery, I turned it back on and it began to reboot but then came up with this blue Stop screen. When I try all of the options that it suggests, it just keeps coming back to the same screen. It won't even allow me to boot in safe mode. I am running Win 2000 Pro, on this machine. It appears to begin to boot normally, gets as far as the Windows logo screen and then, bam, the error page comes up. The error page is blue with white writing that reads: ***STOP: 0x0050 (0xC1080212,0x, 0x804Ac321,0x) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA ***Address 804Ac321 base at 8040, DateStamp 3ee6c002 - ntoskrnle.exe If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows 2000 updates you might need. If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode. Refer to your Getting Started manual for more information on troubleshooting Stop errors. Well, it won't let me reboot to Safe Mode or any other mode for that matter, and when I press F12 to enter the BIOS at startup it says: Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0 (build 071) PXE-E61: Media Test Failure: Check cable. Plase don't tell me I've blown a motherboard or CPU help! tan.
