Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape
The NEX-5n has better high ISO performance (it uses the same sensor as the K-5); that has annoyed some Sonystas. I find the rest of the camera a big win and like it a lot, at least in theory, as I haven't handled one yet. That said, I will never buy into the NEX system due to the gargantuan lenses (relatively speaking, and compared to other mirrorless systems). I'm not into using legacy lenses with a mirrorless system; if I were, I'd probably be all over the NEX-7. That EVF in the correct location, makes me drool. A little. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 21 September 2011 19:22, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml Among other things (pre-production model): ... ... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent. At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs will have to be determined. ... It sounds like Sony sacrificed some of the stratospheric ISO capabilities for a higher resolution sensor. Not an unheard of trade-off, but some will take exception to it, I'm sure. Otherwise, it looks like a very nice camera. Time will tell ... I look forward to hearing what you say about it once you get to work with it. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml Among other things (pre-production model): ... I can say that in photographic terms this camera certainly gives the impression of a compact fighting machine that sacrifices little for its diminutive size. ... it challenges virtually every other small camera on the market when it comes to the ability for the photographer to get the camera operating in a smooth and intuitive manner. From an operational perspective what immediately brings a grin to an experienced photographer's face is how comfortably the camera falls to hand. It's one of those designs that makes few demands for accommodation on the part of the photographer. ... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent. At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs will have to be determined. ... there was something about the NEX-7 that made it very appealing as a thing unto itself, not just as a device for taking photographs. This is somewhat hard to describe, but is attributable to a combination of the camera's fit, finish and design aesthetic. One really has to ask – what's not to like? At under US $1,200 for a 24MP camera, even the price is attractive... and is going to really put other camera maker's feet to the fire when it comes to offering an attractive mix of image quality, features, size, build quality and price. Sony clearly made a decision to make the NEX-7 as full featured as possible, not holding back any of their available features or technology. With many camera makers creating market segmentation by artificially restricting features to certain price points, Sony is to be commended for pulling out all the stops for the NEX-7 and keeping the price as reasonable as it did given the camera's wide ranging features and capabilities. Sorry Bill, I know this kind of thing really peeves you. :-) I have one on pre-order since last week. I just wonder how far down the list I am. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape
if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really satisfies. Very similar to what I told my wife before we married (32 yrs ago). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml Among other things (pre-production model): ... ... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent. At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs will have to be determined. ... It sounds like Sony sacrificed some of the stratospheric ISO capabilities for a higher resolution sensor. Not an unheard of trade-off, but some will take exception to it, I'm sure. Otherwise, it looks like a very nice camera. Time will tell ... I look forward to hearing what you say about it once you get to work with it. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape
On 9/21/2011 4:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom Ccaka...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml Among other things (pre-production model): ... ... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent. At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs will have to be determined. ... It sounds like Sony sacrificed some of the stratospheric ISO capabilities for a higher resolution sensor. Not an unheard of trade-off, but some will take exception to it, I'm sure. Interesting, since diffraction limiting seems to be purely based on sensor resolution and f/stop, rather than the actual physical size of the aperture, using the calculator at: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm it would seem that it is diffraction limited somewhere between 5.6 and 8. I also suspect that with some clever math, a lot of the noise and diffraction issues could be greatly alleviated by downrezzing to something like 12 MP. Otherwise, it looks like a very nice camera. Time will tell ... I look forward to hearing what you say about it once you get to work with it. I'm rather curious myself. I suppose they could always make a version with the K-5 sensor for people who are more likely to photograph indoors without a flash than they are to print significantly larger than 13x20.5 (24MP at 300dpi) though I suspect you could go quite a bit larger if you wanted. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
