Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/08 Thu AM 12:21:33 GMT
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 Subject: Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?
 
 At 01:50 AM 8/02/2007, Christian wrote:
 Amita Guha wrote:
   I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
   International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
   get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
   day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
   (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
   track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
   my buyers could get their packages.
  
   DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
   things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
   that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
   haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
   works great.
  
   Thanks,
   Amita
  
 
 I've always used USPS Express Mail (international) and the 3 to 5 days
 was 3 to 5 days.  Even to Oz.  The cost has only been slightly higher
 than Air Mail.  Your experience makes me worried about the next time I
 send something overseas via this method...
 
 3-5 days is excellent. Even 2 weeks is not bad IMO.
 
 How's this for delivery time:
 
 I bought a copy of Vic McBournies' Niagara Escarpment book. It was posted 
 via surface mail on 7th November 2006 from eastern Canada. It arrived 6th 
 February 2007.
 
 My old man was quite surprised to be receiving a Christmas gift in 
 February. :-)
 
 Dave (from the arse end of the planet) 

I'm still waiting for a copy of a certain book.  Three years.


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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Cotty wrote:

 On 7/2/07, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed:

 UPS and others charge extortionate brokerage fees
 and if they fail to deliver, their collection points are miles away.
 Parcel Force collection points are scattered evenly about and the
 nearest is a ten minute drive.

 Obviously you have had a bad experience and sure, parcels go missing,
 but based on my experience, I would not say that Parcel Force are pretty
 bad - in fact I'd say they are pretty good.

 .02

+.02 from me.

Do you take AmEx?

Kostas (and for the very same reasons as Cotty).

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread Amita Guha
Yes, that happened to me this time. The part I find annoying is that
one delivery attempt is made and then the customer isn't notified for
a couple of days, or even a week, unless I track it down on my end.

Amita

On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had to track a USPS lens shipment to a customer in the UK. Turns out it was 
 being held in customs. I think that's usually the case.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hello Amita,
 
  Be glad you didn't send it to Italy.  My experience twice there has
  been on the order of a month even with USPS fast delivery (about 1
  week or less).  The problem becomes once it leaves the US, the post
  office is at the mercy of the other country's mail system.  Some
  countries are much better than others.
 
  I feel your pain.
 
  --
  Bruce
 
 
  Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 8:46:36 AM, you wrote:
 
  AG I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
  AG International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
  AG get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
  AG day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
  AG (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
  AG track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
  AG my buyers could get their packages.
 
  AG DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
  AG things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
  AG that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
  AG haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
  AG works great.
 
  AG Thanks,
  AG Amita
 
 
 
 
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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread Amita Guha
No, I was talking about regular Express Mail, though I'm starting to
think about using Global Express. I just hate charging $80 and up for
shipping.

Amita

On 2/7/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean USPS Global Express? That is about the best way in my limited
 experience. Two weeks tends to be about the minimum, not the maximum. I
 do not think the problems are with the USPS, but with the postal service
 on the other end.

 -graywolf


 Amita Guha wrote:
  I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
  International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
  get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
  day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
  (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
  track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
  my buyers could get their packages.
 
  DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
  things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
  that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
  haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
  works great.
 
  Thanks,
  Amita
 

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread David Savage
On 2/8/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
  My old man was quite surprised to be receiving a Christmas gift in
  February. :-)
 
  Dave (from the arse end of the planet)

 I'm still waiting for a copy of a certain book.  Three years.

Isn't that more a matter of it not having even been posted yet.

Cheers,

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Boris Liberman
EMS?

On 2/7/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
 things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
 that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
 haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
 works great.

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OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Amita Guha
I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
(in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
my buyers could get their packages.

DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
works great.

Thanks,
Amita

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Christian
Amita Guha wrote:
 I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
 International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
 get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
 day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
 (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
 track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
 my buyers could get their packages.
 
 DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
 things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
 that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
 haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
 works great.
 
 Thanks,
 Amita
 

I've always used USPS Express Mail (international) and the 3 to 5 days 
was 3 to 5 days.  Even to Oz.  The cost has only been slightly higher 
than Air Mail.  Your experience makes me worried about the next time I 
send something overseas via this method...

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
(in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
my buyers could get their packages.

DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
works great.

-

Sending things overseas (to Britain) via USPS hasn't worked for me 
either. Packages wind up with something called Parcel Force in the UK. 
They are pretty bad. If an insured parcel gets lost (it happened to me 
once), USPS will take a year to pay you. I don't know how long the 
private carriers take because they've never lost one of mine. USPS's 
tracking is useless, even in the U.S.

The private companies are expensive, but you will at least get a 
tracking number that works. The choices are pay a little and take your 
chances, or pay a lot and get a lot more certainty.

Joe



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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Amita,

Be glad you didn't send it to Italy.  My experience twice there has
been on the order of a month even with USPS fast delivery (about 1
week or less).  The problem becomes once it leaves the US, the post
office is at the mercy of the other country's mail system.  Some
countries are much better than others.

I feel your pain.

-- 
Bruce


Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 8:46:36 AM, you wrote:

AG I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
AG International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
AG get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
AG day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
AG (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
AG track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
AG my buyers could get their packages.

AG DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
AG things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
AG that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
AG haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
AG works great.

AG Thanks,
AG Amita




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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've used USPS Global Express to ship packages to the UK, Germany,  
France, Hong Kong, Chile, Korea, and other places over the past year  
and a half, probably about two dozen packages or so. I've never had  
any problems with the package arriving, and in most cases they've  
made the 3-5 day delivery promise right on time. On two occasions  
they took about 8 days and caused a bit of worry, but there was no  
problem and they arrived at their destination in good condition.

No shipping service is perfect. Insure, obtain tracking, and set  
reasonable expectations with any of them.

Godfrey

On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

 I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
 International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
 get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
 day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
 (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
 track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
 my buyers could get their packages.

 DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
 things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
 that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
 haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
 works great.

 Thanks,
 Amita

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/2/07, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:

Be glad you didn't send it to Italy.  My experience twice there has
been on the order of a month even with USPS fast delivery (about 1
week or less).  The problem becomes once it leaves the US, the post
office is at the mercy of the other country's mail system.  Some
countries are much better than others.


Ditto.

I sent Parcel Force (UK parcels service, part of Royal Mail) to Italy,
and it was there in a matter of a couple of days, and remained in the
Italian system for a further 4 weeks!
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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/2/07, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sending things overseas (to Britain) via USPS hasn't worked for me 
either. Packages wind up with something called Parcel Force in the UK. 
They are pretty bad. If an insured parcel gets lost (it happened to me 
once), USPS will take a year to pay you.

Points of information: Parcel Farce (as known here ;-) is (was) a branch
of the Royal Mail. It is effectively the parcel dept of our postal
service. Depends what you mean by pretty bad. I send a ton of stuff
using Parcel Force and have had no problems. I always ask if USA-
originating packages can be sent USPS, as then it is delivered by Parcel
Force, which I prefer. UPS and others charge extortionate brokerage fees
and if they fail to deliver, their collection points are miles away.
Parcel Force collection points are scattered evenly about and the
nearest is a ten minute drive.

Obviously you have had a bad experience and sure, parcels go missing,
but based on my experience, I would not say that Parcel Force are pretty
bad - in fact I'd say they are pretty good.

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread pnstenquist
I had to track a USPS lens shipment to a customer in the UK. Turns out it was 
being held in customs. I think that's usually the case. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello Amita,
 
 Be glad you didn't send it to Italy.  My experience twice there has
 been on the order of a month even with USPS fast delivery (about 1
 week or less).  The problem becomes once it leaves the US, the post
 office is at the mercy of the other country's mail system.  Some
 countries are much better than others.
 
 I feel your pain.
 
 -- 
 Bruce
 
 
 Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 8:46:36 AM, you wrote:
 
 AG I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
 AG International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
 AG get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
 AG day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
 AG (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
 AG track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
 AG my buyers could get their packages.
 
 AG DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
 AG things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
 AG that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
 AG haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
 AG works great.
 
 AG Thanks,
 AG Amita
 
 
 
 
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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread Bob Shell

On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Cotty wrote:

 I sent Parcel Force (UK parcels service, part of Royal Mail) to Italy,
 and it was there in a matter of a couple of days, and remained in the
 Italian system for a further 4 weeks!

The Italian postal system is a joke.  I've sold a number of things on  
eBay to Italian buyers and it is always the same.  No matter how I  
send it, it takes months.  I now advise Italian buyers of this before  
they pay and tell them if they buy they are not to bother me for two  
months if they don't get their item.  I always use a service that can  
be tracked, and the parcel is always turned over to the Italian  
postal system in a few days.  Where it goes after that for a month or  
two is not my concern.

Under international shipping tariffs, title to the goods passes to  
the buyer when I hand the package across the counter at the Post Office.


Bob

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread graywolf
You mean USPS Global Express? That is about the best way in my limited 
experience. Two weeks tends to be about the minimum, not the maximum. I 
do not think the problems are with the USPS, but with the postal service 
on the other end.

-graywolf


Amita Guha wrote:
 I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
 International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
 get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
 day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
 (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
 track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
 my buyers could get their packages.
 
 DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
 things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
 that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
 haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
 works great.
 
 Thanks,
 Amita
 

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread David J Brooks
I have bought several lenses etc from US sellers and its always been
USPS then over to Canada Post.

Sometimes its only a week, sometimes around 4 -5 weeks.

Always opened.

Dave

On 2/7/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean USPS Global Express? That is about the best way in my limited
 experience. Two weeks tends to be about the minimum, not the maximum. I
 do not think the problems are with the USPS, but with the postal service
 on the other end.

 -graywolf


 Amita Guha wrote:
  I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
  International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
  get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
  day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
  (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
  track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
  my buyers could get their packages.
 
  DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
  things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
  that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
  haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
  works great.
 
  Thanks,
  Amita
 

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Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-07 Thread David Savage
At 01:50 AM 8/02/2007, Christian wrote:
Amita Guha wrote:
  I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS
  International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would
  get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5
  day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient
  (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and
  track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that
  my buyers could get their packages.
 
  DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship
  things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing
  that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I
  haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which
  works great.
 
  Thanks,
  Amita
 

I've always used USPS Express Mail (international) and the 3 to 5 days
was 3 to 5 days.  Even to Oz.  The cost has only been slightly higher
than Air Mail.  Your experience makes me worried about the next time I
send something overseas via this method...

3-5 days is excellent. Even 2 weeks is not bad IMO.

How's this for delivery time:

I bought a copy of Vic McBournies' Niagara Escarpment book. It was posted 
via surface mail on 7th November 2006 from eastern Canada. It arrived 6th 
February 2007.

My old man was quite surprised to be receiving a Christmas gift in 
February. :-)

Dave (from the arse end of the planet) 


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