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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! Huray! Welcome to the Linux world! However I would love to hear your feedback on your experience with Linux for photography, thus keep us (or at least me :) ) posted on this topic. After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill. A distribution mainly boils down to the following: * the selection of packages --- how many are available, and how old are the versions; (in essence they all run the same software;) * the choice of desktop environment --- KDE vs. Gnome mainly; (in essence you can choose one or another on any distribution;) * the choice of management tools (saving you the trouble of getting your hands dirty in the configuration files) --- my guess is that Ubuntu / OpenSUSE win here; * the size of the community, which is proportional to the amount of available documentation and support; * the bling, i.e., default colors, fonts, logos, backgrounds, etc.; Out of all the Linux distributions, the most popular and stress free for the end-user would be the following (or at least to my opinion): * Ubuntu; (use the LTS edition 14.04 when it appears, if you don't intend to upgrade / reinstall it every two years or so;) out of all I think it offers the most stream-line experience for non-technical people, it features quite a lot of software, although not at the latest version; (however there is the thing called PPA repositories which tends to solve this issue;) * Debian (which Ubuntu is based on); however although it has in its repositories almost all the software you can get running on Linux, the versions tend to be quite old especially in the stable version; (I would recommend this for more experienced people with Linux;) * OpenSUSE (use the latest 13.x variant), which could be as streamline in experience as Ubuntu for the end-user, although I have the feeling they have less software ready available than Ubuntu; * ArchLinux (the one I use), which has the advantage of having always the bleeding-edge software versions, although probably in lesser numbers than Ubuntu; (and I guess you'll have more hassle in installing and managing it than the others, thus I'll recommend it to more experienced users;) * of course there is http://distrowatch.com/ which provides a lot of information (statistics, overviews, etc.) of various Linux and BSD distributions; (Please note that when I say software available I actually mean precompiled ready to be installed software from their repositories, because you can certainly compile software yourself even if it's not in their repositories, but this can be a daunting task sometimes.) Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. To my knowledge there is no stable (and open-source) 16 bit image editor for Linux. There is however CinePaint which is a GIMP fork (?) to support 16 bit image manipulation: http://www.cinepaint.org/ , however I haven't used it thus I can't say much about it. For RAW processing --- which you could try to use with your 16 bit TIFF --- I can recommend RawTherapee (the one I use, although there are others like Darktable), and there was discussion about this in July 2013 with the subject: `Linux RAW editor/manager? (was Re: OT - Lightzone Open Source Photo Editor (Windows, Linux))`. The following is my reply regarding Darktable and RawTherapee: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/351722.html Related to this topic, I've made a list of software related to photography (which run on Linux, that I have used, and that I can recommend): http://wiki.volution.ro/CiprianDorinCraciun/Notes/Public/Photography/Software Looking at ArchLinux's wiki it seems they have an even more comprehensive list: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Multimedia#Image Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I think the best place to start is the distribution's tutorial / documentation / wiki, and any of the previously mentioned distributions have good documentation (or wiki). Unfortunately in the Linux world things move very fast, especially when it comes to desktop environments and tools, thus books tend to stay behind. Good luck, Ciprian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,
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On Mar 26, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! So far this meets all my main goals - - Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs. - Supports Vuescan (which I use for most scanning these days) - Access USB drives 2TB (something my WInXP install could not do and needed to access my photo library) - Platform for a backup PC to my my box (which XP could not do since it could not access my photo libraries) I am still having problems getting the screen resolution set properly (seems to be an issue in Ubuntu)... Before I get too deep into this - Ciprian gave a thorough reply, but throwing in my two cents.. After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? There are two main families of distributions out there, based on how software packages are installed: Debian (apt) and RedHat (RPM). I have a slight preference for the debian families. in theory, running ubuntu, you should be able to install any software packaged using .deb/apt packaging. Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. You may want to check out bibble, though I see that they are now part of corel: http://www.bibblelabs.com/ Six years ago the other big stumbling block was monitor calibration, though it seems to be much better now. I’m afraid that when the dust settles, it’s very hard to beat lightroom. Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I able to get around DOS pretty well and the command line interface is similar, but when I try to do things like install software I am more or less aping what I read with no real comprehension (well, what else in new….) Try to find a local Linux users group. They can be very helpful. I think I may have just tossed out the first several years of the Linux Journal, but their online presence may be very helpful. Two commands that you want to learn are “man” and “apropos”. man commandname will give you the manual page for the command “commandname”. So, a good place to start is man man you will also want to try man apt-get apropos searchterm will list all commands that have “searchterm” in their summary. So, try typing apropos apt What it really does is a command called “grep”, which is a little arcane and amazingly powerful. It prints out any lines that match the search string you type in. Actually the “regular expression”. There were some incredibly helpful tutorials on unix etc dating back to the 70’s. The best suggestion I can make is if you can find someone locally to just give you a hands on guided tour. For what it’s worth, just about anything that you learn for the command prompt (bash) on Linux, also works on the Mac command prompt. For what it’s worth, I think I just recently hit my 20 year mark of running Linux. Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark, Also I have recently installed just for fun Ubuntu 12.04 on my old PC, replacing Vista which had crashed completely, as well as Win XP which is no longer secure. I had to change the graphic driver from generic to NVDI, so this route may also be a solution for you to get the right screen resolution. I have no experience yet with photo editing as I run Win 8.1/LR on my new desktop to which my scanner is attached. But I like Ubuntu with addition of the ClassicMenu Indicator giving pulldown menus and am looking forward to v. 14.04 to be released in April.There is a manual online at https://ubuntu-manual.org. I have tried Linux Mint 16 but had trouble with the menus. The light weight Lubuntu now gives a great boost to my old laptop which was very slow with XP. Ubuntu and Linux Mint 16 appear to be the most used distros. Henk Mark C schreef op 27-3-2014 02:03: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! So far this meets all my main goals - - Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs. - Supports Vuescan (which I use for most scanning these days) - Access USB drives 2TB (something my WInXP install could not do and needed to access my photo library) - Platform for a backup PC to my my box (which XP could not do since it could not access my photo libraries) I am still having problems getting the screen resolution set properly (seems to be an issue in Ubuntu)... Before I get too deep into this - After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I able to get around DOS pretty well and the command line interface is similar, but when I try to do things like install software I am more or less aping what I read with no real comprehension (well, what else in new) Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote: On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:03 pm, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! So far this meets all my main goals - - Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs. Any reason you're not using Virtualbox? That'll save you having to dual boot. I don't know what hardware interface you're using for the scanners but it's possible to capture USB devices. Firewire isn't supported. Don't know about SCSI. I'm not much help with your questions, I only use Linux for server-side stuff :) Cheers, Dave Thanks, Dave - I actually didn't know about Virtual box so that's one reason... But on the hardware side the Nikon scanner is Firewire and backup Canoscan is either USB 1.1 or SCSI (when I used it I used SCSI). So the hardware issues moved me to put the scanner on a separate machine. I have not yet tested the SCSI card in Ubuntu. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks - I will check out Darktable. I will be doing serious editing on another computer with Photoshop, but like to be able to check scans and see if I need to tweak settings etc. So I really just need something that is functional. I just kept a copy of PS CS3 on the XP box. I scan at 16 bits (especially for BW) and that is the major stumbling block. Mark On 3/27/2014 1:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: It's been a few years since I dabbled with Linux, although I still have Ubuntu 804 and Kubuntu 1110 available in VirtualBox. I understand that Darktable has become an effective Photo editor with RAW support. No first hand experience, though - but probably worth checking out. http://www.darktable.org/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! Huray! Welcome to the Linux world! However I would love to hear your feedback on your experience with Linux for photography, thus keep us (or at least me :) ) posted on this topic. Thanks - it was really quite a simple install, easier than when I last installed XP. The PC is ~10 years old and I expected to have to hunt for drivers, but aside from the the screen resolution issue it went perfectly. After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill. ... I will probably stick with this one... I noticed that there were versions Ubuntu and Kubuntu (?) that were tweak very specifically - e.g. a Bioscience version, a multimedia version (video editing, I think) etc... I was hoping there might be a photographers version! Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. To my knowledge there is no stable (and open-source) 16 bit image editor for Linux. There is however CinePaint which is a GIMP fork (?) to support 16 bit image manipulation: http://www.cinepaint.org/ , however I haven't used it thus I can't say much about it. For RAW processing --- which you could try to use with your 16 bit TIFF --- I can recommend RawTherapee (the one I use, although there are others like Darktable), and there was discussion about this in July 2013 with the subject: `Linux RAW editor/manager? (was Re: OT - Lightzone Open Source Photo Editor (Windows, Linux))`. The following is my reply regarding Darktable and RawTherapee: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/351722.html Related to this topic, I've made a list of software related to photography (which run on Linux, that I have used, and that I can recommend): http://wiki.volution.ro/CiprianDorinCraciun/Notes/Public/Photography/Software Looking at ArchLinux's wiki it seems they have an even more comprehensive list: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Multimedia#Image Thanks! Lots of good option to try there! I will dig up the old thread in the archives Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I think the best place to start is the distribution's tutorial / documentation / wiki, and any of the previously mentioned distributions have good documentation (or wiki). Unfortunately in the Linux world things move very fast, especially when it comes to desktop environments and tools, thus books tend to stay behind. I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. Makes sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at least. Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I actually installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads folder. So even things like figuring out where to install programs is a mystery (I assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...) But part of my motivation for using this was to learn it in hopes of someday unshackling from Windows completely. Thanks again Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 5:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. You may want to check out bibble, though I see that they are now part of corel: http://www.bibblelabs.com/ Six years ago the other big stumbling block was monitor calibration, though it seems to be much better now. I’m afraid that when the dust settles, it’s very hard to beat lightroom. Thanks, Larry - another one I will be sure to check out. Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I able to get around DOS pretty well and the command line interface is similar, but when I try to do things like install software I am more or less aping what I read with no real comprehension (well, what else in new….) Try to find a local Linux users group. They can be very helpful. I think I may have just tossed out the first several years of the Linux Journal, but their online presence may be very helpful. Two commands that you want to learn are “man” and “apropos”. man commandname will give you the manual page for the command “commandname”. So, a good place to start is man man you will also want to try man apt-get apropos searchterm will list all commands that have “searchterm” in their summary. So, try typing apropos apt Thanks - those will surely be helpful. The command line structure can be a little cryptic, to say the least... What it really does is a command called “grep”, which is a little arcane and amazingly powerful. It prints out any lines that match the search string you type in. Actually the “regular expression”. There were some incredibly helpful tutorials on unix etc dating back to the 70’s. The best suggestion I can make is if you can find someone locally to just give you a hands on guided tour. For what it’s worth, just about anything that you learn for the command prompt (bash) on Linux, also works on the Mac command prompt. For what it’s worth, I think I just recently hit my 20 year mark of running Linux. I have read about grep and will have to give it a try. Good suggestion about looking for a hands on guide - there might even be a class around here I could take (actually hadn't thought about that...) Thanks again - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/14 13:25, Mark C wrote: On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, [ ... ] I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. Makes sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at least. Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I actually installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads folder. So even things like figuring out where to install programs is a mystery (I assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...) Actually, for this kind of thing, the recommended location these days is /opt, or a sub-directory of /opt named after the software vendor. Most of the time you shouldn't think about this, though, but instead use software packages that have built-in target locations. You probably want to find out more about about APT and software repositories (a.k.a. repos). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool might be a good starting point... - Toralf But part of my motivation for using this was to learn it in hopes of someday unshackling from Windows completely. Thanks again Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill. ... I will probably stick with this one... I noticed that there were versions Ubuntu and Kubuntu (?) that were tweak very specifically - e.g. a Bioscience version, a multimedia version (video editing, I think) etc... I was hoping there might be a photographers version! There seems to be an Ubuntu Studio distribution, which is geared towards Audio, Graphics, Photography, etc. However I have the feeling that the only difference between this and the classical Ubuntu is the default packages that come installed, maybe some menus, and the bling; else they (and the others like Kubuntu, etc.) share the same software packages. http://ubuntustudio.org/ Ciprian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I ran across one called AV Linux that is aimed at multimedia production. I don't know how well suited it would be for still photography. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=avlinux I mean, still photography is a component of multimedia isn't it? I was looking for something I could do with the old computers my mom no longer needs was searching for audio recording tools. AV Linux looked real interesting. But, I don't think that old Pentium 3 system is powerful enough to run it, even if I maxed out the memory. It's just too old, too obsolete. I have the feeling that it is fated for the scrap heap sooner, rather than later. Apparently, even Linux has minimum hardware requirements. I have more hope for the other system. On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! Huray! Welcome to the Linux world! However I would love to hear your feedback on your experience with Linux for photography, thus keep us (or at least me :) ) posted on this topic. After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill. A distribution mainly boils down to the following: * the selection of packages --- how many are available, and how old are the versions; (in essence they all run the same software;) * the choice of desktop environment --- KDE vs. Gnome mainly; (in essence you can choose one or another on any distribution;) * the choice of management tools (saving you the trouble of getting your hands dirty in the configuration files) --- my guess is that Ubuntu / OpenSUSE win here; * the size of the community, which is proportional to the amount of available documentation and support; * the bling, i.e., default colors, fonts, logos, backgrounds, etc.; Out of all the Linux distributions, the most popular and stress free for the end-user would be the following (or at least to my opinion): * Ubuntu; (use the LTS edition 14.04 when it appears, if you don't intend to upgrade / reinstall it every two years or so;) out of all I think it offers the most stream-line experience for non-technical people, it features quite a lot of software, although not at the latest version; (however there is the thing called PPA repositories which tends to solve this issue;) * Debian (which Ubuntu is based on); however although it has in its repositories almost all the software you can get running on Linux, the versions tend to be quite old especially in the stable version; (I would recommend this for more experienced people with Linux;) * OpenSUSE (use the latest 13.x variant), which could be as streamline in experience as Ubuntu for the end-user, although I have the feeling they have less software ready available than Ubuntu; * ArchLinux (the one I use), which has the advantage of having always the bleeding-edge software versions, although probably in lesser numbers than Ubuntu; (and I guess you'll have more hassle in installing and managing it than the others, thus I'll recommend it to more experienced users;) * of course there is http://distrowatch.com/ which provides a lot of information (statistics, overviews, etc.) of various Linux and BSD distributions; (Please note that when I say software available I actually mean precompiled ready to be installed software from their repositories, because you can certainly compile software yourself even if it's not in their repositories, but this can be a daunting task sometimes.) Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. To my knowledge there is no stable (and open-source) 16 bit image editor for Linux. There is however CinePaint which is a GIMP fork (?) to support 16 bit image manipulation: http://www.cinepaint.org/ , however I haven't used it thus I can't say much about it. For RAW processing --- which you could try to use with your 16 bit TIFF --- I can recommend RawTherapee (the one I use, although there are others like Darktable), and there was discussion about this in July 2013 with the subject: `Linux RAW editor/manager? (was Re: OT - Lightzone Open Source Photo Editor (Windows, Linux))`. The following is my reply regarding Darktable and RawTherapee: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/351722.html Related to this topic, I've made a list of software related to photography (which run on Linux, that I
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I already mentioned this to Mark, but it is a good way to understand why unix shells work the way they do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy One suggestion that I have, if you can, is to put /home and any other directory trees that have data, rather than system files on them, on a disk other than you root / system disk. This way, if you want to try another distribution, you can easily swap system drives and immediately have all of your important data. It also makes it easy to back up all of your important data. One thing that is a little bit inconsistent is that there are two main editors: vi and emacs. Commands like less (less is more, only better) use the vi search commands ( /, ?) while bash (the command line) uses the emacs search commands: ^R and ^S. The vi and emacs religious war would put ford/chevy or nikon/canon debates to shame, and is only slightly less productive. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 8:25 AM, Mark C wrote: I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. Makes sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at least. Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I actually installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads folder. So even things like figuring out where to install programs is a mystery (I assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...) But part of my motivation for using this was to learn it in hopes of someday unshackling from Windows completely. Thanks again Mark Unix (and/or Linux) isn't so much an operating system as it is an agglomeration of programmers tools that hang around together, all striving to outdo all the others with their geekness. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 12:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: ] I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. Makes sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at least. Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I actually installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads folder. So even things like figuring out where to install programs is a mystery (I assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...) Actually, for this kind of thing, the recommended location these days is /opt, or a sub-directory of /opt named after the software vendor. Most of the time you shouldn't think about this, though, but instead use software packages that have built-in target locations. You probably want to find out more about about APT and software repositories (a.k.a. repos). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool might be a good starting point... - Toralf Thanks - I will check that out. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 12:13 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: There seems to be an Ubuntu Studio distribution, which is geared towards Audio, Graphics, Photography, etc. However I have the feeling that the only difference between this and the classical Ubuntu is the default packages that come installed, maybe some menus, and the bling; else they (and the others like Kubuntu, etc.) share the same software packages. http://ubuntustudio.org/ Ciprian. That looks like it has darktable and a photo organizer called shotwell - I was planning on trying dark table and I'll shotwell to the list of things to try as well. If I wind up re-installing I might try this studio dist instead of vanilla Ubuntu. Thanks - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A Pentium 3 is getting pretty long in the tooth, but I'm not sure what the minimum standards for various Linux builds are. My scanning machine is an Athlong 64 X2 4200+ and it is too old for Win 8.1 - lacks some instruction set that is now required. It is still a pretty decent machine, though. Mark On 3/27/2014 5:44 PM, John wrote: I ran across one called AV Linux that is aimed at multimedia production. I don't know how well suited it would be for still photography. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=avlinux I mean, still photography is a component of multimedia isn't it? I was looking for something I could do with the old computers my mom no longer needs was searching for audio recording tools. AV Linux looked real interesting. But, I don't think that old Pentium 3 system is powerful enough to run it, even if I maxed out the memory. It's just too old, too obsolete. I have the feeling that it is fated for the scrap heap sooner, rather than later. Apparently, even Linux has minimum hardware requirements. I have more hope for the other system. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:10 am, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Thanks, Dave - I actually didn't know about Virtual box so that's one reason... But on the hardware side the Nikon scanner is Firewire and backup Canoscan is either USB 1.1 or SCSI (when I used it I used SCSI). So the hardware issues moved me to put the scanner on a separate machine. I have not yet tested the SCSI card in Ubuntu. Firewire is a popular feature request but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. It's why I have to keep an old scanner machine too :) I'd expect the SCSI card to work in Linux but won't offer any guarantees! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT:Linux
This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! So far this meets all my main goals - - Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs. - Supports Vuescan (which I use for most scanning these days) - Access USB drives 2TB (something my WInXP install could not do and needed to access my photo library) - Platform for a backup PC to my my box (which XP could not do since it could not access my photo libraries) I am still having problems getting the screen resolution set properly (seems to be an issue in Ubuntu)... Before I get too deep into this - After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I able to get around DOS pretty well and the command line interface is similar, but when I try to do things like install software I am more or less aping what I read with no real comprehension (well, what else in new) Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT:Linux
On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:03 pm, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! So far this meets all my main goals - - Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs. Any reason you're not using Virtualbox? That'll save you having to dual boot. I don't know what hardware interface you're using for the scanners but it's possible to capture USB devices. Firewire isn't supported. Don't know about SCSI. I'm not much help with your questions, I only use Linux for server-side stuff :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT:Linux
Quoting Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net: This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great! So far this meets all my main goals - - Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs. - Supports Vuescan (which I use for most scanning these days) - Access USB drives 2TB (something my WInXP install could not do and needed to access my photo library) - Platform for a backup PC to my my box (which XP could not do since it could not access my photo libraries) I am still having problems getting the screen resolution set properly (seems to be an issue in Ubuntu)... Before I get too deep into this - After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing? Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there? I am scanning BW and need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp. Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux? I able to get around DOS pretty well and the command line interface is similar, but when I try to do things like install software I am more or less aping what I read with no real comprehension (well, what else in new) It's been a few years since I dabbled with Linux, although I still have Ubuntu 804 and Kubuntu 1110 available in VirtualBox. I understand that Darktable has become an effective Photo editor with RAW support. No first hand experience, though - but probably worth checking out. http://www.darktable.org/ -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
