RE: OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-28 Thread John Coyle
I always preferred FP4 over Plus-X, from memory because Plus-X in Microdol-X 
was fine-grained but
slightly 'mushy', whereas FP4 in Acutol was slightly grainier but had better 
contrast and much
better acutance (as you might expect).


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: Re: OT - Plus -X Film Available

I know there is some disagreement about this, but in my experience Ilford FP-4 
Plus is comparable to
Kodak Plus X with a couple of exceptions.  The important one being that FP-4 
seems to look sharper,
oh yes, and it's also still manufactured. I used to buy FP-4 because it was 
less expensive. They're
both old fashioned, well more or less, traditional films.

On 7/27/2013 12:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
 A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled 
 into this:

 http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

 At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll 
 in the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like 
 they have it.

 This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is 
 rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or not 
 but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests (I've 
 only tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very consistent 
 results between the two. The published times for the films are 
 significantly different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the 
 published time for the Ultrafine seems significantly too short.

 Mark




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Re: OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-28 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Once I figured out how to develop tmax 100 and tmax 400 with tmax liquid 
developer,
I got great results with both and didnt use anything else after that.  
They were tricky

to develop however, and the learning curve was long.



On 7/28/2013 3:26 AM, John Coyle wrote:

I always preferred FP4 over Plus-X, from memory because Plus-X in Microdol-X 
was fine-grained but
slightly 'mushy', whereas FP4 in Acutol was slightly grainier but had better 
contrast and much
better acutance (as you might expect).


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2013 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: OT - Plus -X Film Available

I know there is some disagreement about this, but in my experience Ilford FP-4 
Plus is comparable to
Kodak Plus X with a couple of exceptions.  The important one being that FP-4 
seems to look sharper,
oh yes, and it's also still manufactured. I used to buy FP-4 because it was 
less expensive. They're
both old fashioned, well more or less, traditional films.

On 7/27/2013 12:39 PM, Mark C wrote:

A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled
into this:

http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll
in the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like
they have it.

This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is
rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or not
but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests (I've
only tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very consistent
results between the two. The published times for the films are
significantly different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the
published time for the Ultrafine seems significantly too short.

Mark




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Re: OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-28 Thread Mark C
I think it is a matter a personal preference. At one time in the past I 
bought a couple of pro-packs of FP4 and worked my way through them, 
probably using D76 or and Rodinal, but I did not take a shine to it and 
went back to Plus-X. I found the FP4 to have less grain than Plus-X, but 
more than the T Grain films, and if grain concerned me I would use TMax 
or Delta 100. If I wanted the organic results of old style film, I 
preferred Plus-X or, in the right developer, Neopan SS. I bought another 
brick of FP4 earlier this year as I have been casting about for a good 
ISO-100 film, now that my stock of Neopan SS is used up. Again - I found 
the FP4 to be OK but just lacking the snap that I am looking for. I 
recognize those are subjective terms, but my decision is purely subject.


I still have not found a currently available  35mm ISO 100 film that I 
really love. I am going to give the Kentmere 100 a try. Arista EDU seems 
to be good and may be what I settle on. In 120 format I still have 
substantial stocks of APX-100 and Plus-X.


Mark

On 7/27/2013 7:48 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I know there is some disagreement about this, but in my experience 
Ilford FP-4 Plus is comparable to Kodak Plus X with a couple of 
exceptions.  The important one being that FP-4 seems to look sharper, 
oh yes, and it's also still manufactured. I used to buy FP-4 because 
it was less expensive. They're both old fashioned, well more or less, 
traditional films.


On 7/27/2013 12:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled 
into this:


http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll 
in the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like 
they have it.


This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is 
rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or 
not but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests 
(I've only tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very 
consistent results between the two. The published times for the films 
are significantly different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the 
published time for the Ultrafine seems significantly too short.


Mark








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OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-27 Thread Mark C
A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled 
into this:


http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll in 
the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like they 
have it.


This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is 
rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or not 
but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests (I've only 
tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very consistent results 
between the two. The published times for the films are significantly 
different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the published time for the 
Ultrafine seems significantly too short.


Mark


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Re: OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-27 Thread P.J. Alling
I know there is some disagreement about this, but in my experience 
Ilford FP-4 Plus is comparable to Kodak Plus X with a couple of 
exceptions.  The important one being that FP-4 seems to look sharper, oh 
yes, and it's also still manufactured. I used to buy FP-4 because it was 
less expensive. They're both old fashioned, well more or less, 
traditional films.


On 7/27/2013 12:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled 
into this:


http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll 
in the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like 
they have it.


This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is 
rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or not 
but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests (I've 
only tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very consistent 
results between the two. The published times for the films are 
significantly different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the 
published time for the Ultrafine seems significantly too short.


Mark





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