Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Tue Jul 24 19:03:20 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, it might, but... ... Even in Manhattan, it is not that crowded at midnight. And the NY Post article confirms that: on the nearly empty platform. I apologize if my sarcasm was too subtle. Speaking of dancing bans, all is not bleak and gloomy. I see that Oakland just lifted a dancing ban: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Oakland-drops-ban-on-dance-marathons-3726865.php?cmpid=gplus Oops, it might've been me, not noticing that tongue... Either it was obstructed by the other cheek (which is to cheek), or it was me, stressing about a big grant proposal that was due yesterday. As for the danceathones, - there is a 24-hour one for swing dancing that has been running annually in Orange county (California) for 7 years. (2012 will be the 7th) Their dance-a-thon (which is 501(c)(3) non-profit organization) is benefiting the City of Hope (Cancer research) The one in 2006 was one of my first experiences of photographing social dances. I just found the link to that old gallery: https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1 There are some fun shots in there. And a couple of people I think I recognize. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
Jul 27 12:08:47 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: The one in 2006 was one of my first experiences of photographing social dances. I just found the link to that old gallery: https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1 There are some fun shots in there. And a couple of people I think I recognize. Larry, Possibly more than just a couple. You probably know these frequently travelling instructors/performers from Irvine: Jeremy Otth, Laura Keat, https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1#4998147200886046738 who also were featured in this national TV ad a few years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmp5dgzeZuk You may know Shesha Marvin - an organizer and performer (this dance-a-thon is his), and, for the last few years, the owner of Atomic Ballroom in OC: https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1#4998147651299508242 Since earlier you told me that you had visited San Diego dance scene, you may recognize some SD locals: https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1#4998147865740967954 and Carl Flores, who also came to SFLX at some point as a DJ: https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1#4998146562674917394 Most of them I barely knew or didn't know at all back then. ... and you know Jane. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
Tue Jul 24 19:03:20 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, it might, but... ... Even in Manhattan, it is not that crowded at midnight. And the NY Post article confirms that: on the nearly empty platform. I apologize if my sarcasm was too subtle. Speaking of dancing bans, all is not bleak and gloomy. I see that Oakland just lifted a dancing ban: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Oakland-drops-ban-on-dance-marathons-3726865.php?cmpid=gplus Oops, it might've been me, not noticing that tongue... Either it was obstructed by the other cheek (which is to cheek), or it was me, stressing about a big grant proposal that was due yesterday. As for the danceathones, - there is a 24-hour one for swing dancing that has been running annually in Orange county (California) for 7 years. (2012 will be the 7th) Their dance-a-thon (which is 501(c)(3) non-profit organization) is benefiting the City of Hope (Cancer research) The one in 2006 was one of my first experiences of photographing social dances. I just found the link to that old gallery: https://picasaweb.google.com/105420822182590441981/DanceAThon?noredirect=1 Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
Larry, it might, but... ... Even in Manhattan, it is not that crowded at midnight. And the NY Post article confirms that: on the nearly empty platform. Igor Mon Jul 16 14:25:34 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in-public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) I don't know. They might have been doing 20's charleston, and you know how rowdy that can get. Tandem 30's charleston is bad enough, but when someone is doing 20's, and whips out a scarecrow, bad things can happen. Someone might lose an eye or something. Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, it might, but... ... Even in Manhattan, it is not that crowded at midnight. And the NY Post article confirms that: on the nearly empty platform. I apologize if my sarcasm was too subtle. Speaking of dancing bans, all is not bleak and gloomy. I see that Oakland just lifted a dancing ban: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Oakland-drops-ban-on-dance-marathons-3726865.php?cmpid=gplus -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in-public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) I don't know. They might have been doing 20's charleston, and you know how rowdy that can get. Tandem 30's charleston is bad enough, but when someone is doing 20's, and whips out a scarecrow, bad things can happen. Someone might lose an eye or something. Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8 jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor in the US are you legally obliged to carry ID and show it on demand? No, but you do have an obligation to identify yourself. -- Scott Loveless Camp Hill, PA USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On 14/7/12, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: However federal law does require that aliens have documentation on their person at all times. I'd be fine. Nanoo nanoo. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in-public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in- public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8 jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor in the US are you legally obliged to carry ID and show it on demand? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On Jul 14, 2012, at 2:43 AM, Bob W wrote: What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in- public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8 jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor in the US are you legally obliged to carry ID and show it on demand? B No, you are not. Although it's generally wise to comply with a police request to show ID. If you refuse, they can usually figure out some other way to make life miserable for you. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On 7/14/2012 2:43 AM, Bob W wrote: What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in- public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8 jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor in the US are you legally obliged to carry ID and show it on demand? B Depends on the state and city. I know in some Connecticut cities there are anti vagrancy laws that require you to have at least a stated amount of money on your person if you can''t supply a local address where you're staying, though there's no requirement that you supply written documentation, and the amount of money required is between two and five dollars, which kind of tells you how old those statutes are. You aren't even required to have your drivers license with you when driving, just that you /have/ one. However federal law does require that aliens have documentation on their person at all times. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
It's pretty much the same here. No obligation to carry and produce ID (unless you're driving a car). However if you don't comply with a police request they know how to make your life difficult. While we do not live in a legal police state it can be frighteningly close to a de facto police state. My usual caveat applies insofar as the vast majority of cops are terrific people doing an extremely difficult job. A very few bad apples can ruin it for everyone. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net No, you are not. Although it's generally wise to comply with a police request to show ID. If you refuse, they can usually figure out some other way to make life miserable for you. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
In New York, and elsewhere, licenses are required for filming movies and commercials and for commercial photoshoots. It is quite possible the police assume that it was for one of these purposes, when they noticed the camera. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:17 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
Those vagrancy laws are unconstitutional and unenforceable. There are a lot of them still on the books here in New Jersey, but no one still tries to enforce them. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on the state and city. I know in some Connecticut cities there are anti vagrancy laws that require you to have at least a stated amount of money on your person if you can''t supply a local address where you're staying, though there's no requirement that you supply written documentation, and the amount of money required is between two and five dollars, which kind of tells you how old those statutes are. You aren't even required to have your drivers license with you when driving, just that you /have/ one. However federal law does require that aliens have documentation on their person at all times. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
From: Bob W What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in- public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8 jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor in the US are you legally obliged to carry ID and show it on demand? B Only if you're driving while Black or Hispanic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
