Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
Try Komposer http://kompozer.net/ It's pretty easy to use and offers WYSIWYG as well as a source screen. -p Bob W wrote: [...] For Bob W, re the index page. I thought i found all the spelling mistakes, but i guess not.;-) The page it self is from a web tutorial offered by my ISP, which i did a simple page, then cut pasted and hacked my way into the way it is now. I have a book on coding, but its all greek to me so this was the best i could get on my own. I asked Mark last year if any of his students wanted to have a go at it, for the extra credit he was offering, and not suprisingly, no one offered. I'll go in and try and fix up what i can from the suggestions. Unless you have ideas of becoming a professional it's probably not worth the struggle to try and learn to code it by hand. You might be better off trying out various freeware wysiwyg web page editors which you can use to manage the layout quite easily, including canned templates which will help you to develop a simple, professional look. You could try SeaMonkey, for example, which includea a wysiwyg html editor. I haven't tried it myself, so don't take this as a recommendation, but it seems to have a reasonable pedigree so I imagine it would do a pretty decent job. Actually, I just downloaded and tried it. Here is an example of state-of-the-art web design that I knocked together in a couple of minutes: http://www.web-options.com/PRL.html I reckon with a couple of hours playing around you could put something pretty decent together. There are a few books around, which your library should be able to find for you, which help with page design. Two that I've found useful are Web Style Guide by Lynch and Horton, and Designing Visual Interfaces by Mullet and Sano. If you do decide to hand-code it I would recommend that you learn about and use CSS. A very good book about it is Cascading Style Sheets by Lie and Bos. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2143 - Release Date: 05/30/09 05:53:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[...] > For Bob W, re the index page. I thought i found all the spelling > mistakes, but i guess not.;-) The page it self is from a web tutorial > offered by my ISP, which i did a simple page, then cut pasted and > hacked my way into the way it is now. > I have a book on coding, but its all greek to me so this was the best > i could get on my own. > I asked Mark last year if any of his students wanted to have a go at > it, for the extra credit he was offering, and not suprisingly, no one > offered. > > I'll go in and try and fix up what i can from the suggestions. > Unless you have ideas of becoming a professional it's probably not worth the struggle to try and learn to code it by hand. You might be better off trying out various freeware wysiwyg web page editors which you can use to manage the layout quite easily, including canned templates which will help you to develop a simple, professional look. You could try SeaMonkey, for example, which includea a wysiwyg html editor. I haven't tried it myself, so don't take this as a recommendation, but it seems to have a reasonable pedigree so I imagine it would do a pretty decent job. Actually, I just downloaded and tried it. Here is an example of state-of-the-art web design that I knocked together in a couple of minutes: http://www.web-options.com/PRL.html I reckon with a couple of hours playing around you could put something pretty decent together. There are a few books around, which your library should be able to find for you, which help with page design. Two that I've found useful are Web Style Guide by Lynch and Horton, and Designing Visual Interfaces by Mullet and Sano. If you do decide to hand-code it I would recommend that you learn about and use CSS. A very good book about it is Cascading Style Sheets by Lie and Bos. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: Now i just need to figure out how to centre it on the page. Any code ideas.?? http://www.caughtinmotion.com";> for old style, pure HTML3 -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/30/09, David J Brooks wrote: > Ok, here is the updated version, with several suggestions worked on. > > I finally figured out what buttons to turn off in PS to allow a re > size of the two shots that were off a bit. > > I redid the text. > > I re sized the gif to 100k, and proper LxW so the photos are not squished. > > Now i just need to figure out how to centre it on the page. Any code > ideas.?? Not ideal but will work: BTW you don't really need to specify the width or height, without these tags the image will naturally be displayed 1:1. Also I haven't been involved with the thread to this point but an image containing full colour photogrphs is probably better off displayed as a JPG, so long as the compression rate is not too high the text will look fine, 110k is still fairly large for this application, you could probably get it down to 67k as a JPG. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
Ok, here is the updated version, with several suggestions worked on. I finally figured out what buttons to turn off in PS to allow a re size of the two shots that were off a bit. I redid the text. I re sized the gif to 100k, and proper LxW so the photos are not squished. Now i just need to figure out how to centre it on the page. Any code ideas.?? http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote: >> That's a bit much for my taste. > > I was joking. > > Mark posted that url a month or two ago, telling us that he shows his > students that site as an example of ~bad~ website design... He must have stopped using mine then Dave > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > That's a bit much for my taste. I was joking. Mark posted that url a month or two ago, telling us that he shows his students that site as an example of ~bad~ website design... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a bit much for my taste. Dan On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> I'll go in and try and fix up what i can from the suggestions. > > I think if you pattern yours after this one, you can't fail: > > http://www.photographertoronto.com/ > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29/5/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > >Can you just say it to him and not bother the rest of us? No there yet bubba - still waitin on the duffle full of camping gear. And my tripod, WAA. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > I'll go in and try and fix up what i can from the suggestions. I think if you pattern yours after this one, you can't fail: http://www.photographertoronto.com/ cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks to every one who commented, and John C for his detailed comments. As far as the use of the word logo, I suppose that was a bad choice of word, but I think we all know what i meant. After all it is me talking.:-) I tried to get all the photos to look the same size but the files are a bit different and there are two shots that i wanted to use, but could not get them the same size as the cat, autumn etc. I'd like the cat to stay as i am open for cat/dog portrait stuff if required. I noticed after, that it is sized at my old mast head size, so i think thats a problem in it self. I forgot to resize the file to a smaller version. My bad. For Bob W, re the index page. I thought i found all the spelling mistakes, but i guess not.;-) The page it self is from a web tutorial offered by my ISP, which i did a simple page, then cut pasted and hacked my way into the way it is now. I have a book on coding, but its all greek to me so this was the best i could get on my own. I asked Mark last year if any of his students wanted to have a go at it, for the extra credit he was offering, and not suprisingly, no one offered. I'll go in and try and fix up what i can from the suggestions. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty wrote: > On 29/5/09, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > everyone with both a > >camera and a cat eventually puts a cat-picture on the web. > > Mark! Can you just say it to him and not bother the rest of us? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/29 Malcolm Smith : > I think Cesar may reach a different conclusion, especially if the camera in > question is an LX. "Everyone with an LX and a snake will eventually dress the former with the latter"? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Anthony Farr wrote: > everyone with both a camera and a cat eventually puts a cat-picture on the web. I think Cesar may reach a different conclusion, especially if the camera in question is an LX. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29/5/09, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed: > everyone with both a >camera and a cat eventually puts a cat-picture on the web. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow. I for one learned a lot from John's discussion of the logo. Dan On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:17 PM, John Celio wrote: >> Thanks to all that offered suggestions for my new logo. >> >> Here it is on the site.: >> >> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ > > I hadn't read much of this thread till just now, so I expect I will be > repeating a few things that others have noted. That said, I have a lot of > comments. I am a designer and thus a pretentious know-it-all, so feel free > to ignore any of the following. > > First thing's first: 411kb for a logo is WAY too big for a simple website. > It took a long time to download even on my broadband connection. No casual > visitor is going to care enough to wait for it to load. I just noticed that > you're using a GIF that is 1463x640 pixels and manually resizing it via > HTML. Bad idea! Take your original image, shrink it to the desired size > and save a compressed JPG instead. The file size will be a lot smaller and > viewers won't know the difference, guaranteed. > > Regarding the images, there are two things that really must be changed to > make your logo pleasing to the eye: make all the photos the same dimensions > and position them in a way that has better symmetry. Right now the images > look chaotic, like they were thrown together haphazardly. The first thing > I'd do is crop all the photos to the same aspect ratio and size. The > resulting equal spaces between photos will help the viewer's eye move among > them more easily than varied spaces. You may have to make some small > sacrifices to achieve this, but remember that this is only your logo, not > the actual photos. Your viewer won't notice or care if they're slightly > different from the large versions. Next, move the cat to the top right to > echo the horse on the left. Replace either the flower or the three horses > with a black & white photo and put it where the cat used to be, OR lose one > of the current building photos and replace it with a color photo that echos > the flower or horses. I realize there is color in the top left building > photo, but it looks black & white at this size and this makes the center of > your logo very grey. This is not really a good thing, as a logo that is > weak in the middle is a weak logo in general. > > I'd suggest using upper and lower case letters in your logo text, rather > than all caps. All caps is more aggressive than I think you want to be, > and, for instance, "www.CaughtInMotion.com" is much easier to read and > remember than the all caps version. Try it and see what you think. > > Lastly, you could make the logo much more versatile if you make it using > HTML, tables and small thumbnail images. If you make a table that is > 800x300 (the size you have the logo scaled to on your page), you could > easily manipulate the contents to look almost exactly like what you have in > your current gif. Better yet, you can make it easy to change the images as > you see fit by putting individual thumbnails in each cell. This would allow > you to change photos as you take additional noteworthy shots in the future. > You can also easily add to or reduce the number of thumbnails. Finally, > assuming you're using small, compressed JPG thumbnails, you can make your > logo load VERY quickly using the table method. > > I hope this helps, > John > > -- > http://www.neovenator.com > http://www.cafepress.com/calemp > http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks to all that offered suggestions for my new logo. Here it is on the site.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ I hadn't read much of this thread till just now, so I expect I will be repeating a few things that others have noted. That said, I have a lot of comments. I am a designer and thus a pretentious know-it-all, so feel free to ignore any of the following. First thing's first: 411kb for a logo is WAY too big for a simple website. It took a long time to download even on my broadband connection. No casual visitor is going to care enough to wait for it to load. I just noticed that you're using a GIF that is 1463x640 pixels and manually resizing it via HTML. Bad idea! Take your original image, shrink it to the desired size and save a compressed JPG instead. The file size will be a lot smaller and viewers won't know the difference, guaranteed. Regarding the images, there are two things that really must be changed to make your logo pleasing to the eye: make all the photos the same dimensions and position them in a way that has better symmetry. Right now the images look chaotic, like they were thrown together haphazardly. The first thing I'd do is crop all the photos to the same aspect ratio and size. The resulting equal spaces between photos will help the viewer's eye move among them more easily than varied spaces. You may have to make some small sacrifices to achieve this, but remember that this is only your logo, not the actual photos. Your viewer won't notice or care if they're slightly different from the large versions. Next, move the cat to the top right to echo the horse on the left. Replace either the flower or the three horses with a black & white photo and put it where the cat used to be, OR lose one of the current building photos and replace it with a color photo that echos the flower or horses. I realize there is color in the top left building photo, but it looks black & white at this size and this makes the center of your logo very grey. This is not really a good thing, as a logo that is weak in the middle is a weak logo in general. I'd suggest using upper and lower case letters in your logo text, rather than all caps. All caps is more aggressive than I think you want to be, and, for instance, "www.CaughtInMotion.com" is much easier to read and remember than the all caps version. Try it and see what you think. Lastly, you could make the logo much more versatile if you make it using HTML, tables and small thumbnail images. If you make a table that is 800x300 (the size you have the logo scaled to on your page), you could easily manipulate the contents to look almost exactly like what you have in your current gif. Better yet, you can make it easy to change the images as you see fit by putting individual thumbnails in each cell. This would allow you to change photos as you take additional noteworthy shots in the future. You can also easily add to or reduce the number of thumbnails. Finally, assuming you're using small, compressed JPG thumbnails, you can make your logo load VERY quickly using the table method. I hope this helps, John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would make all the pics the same size so the black borders are equal and the 2 top center ones look desaturated so I'd do the same to the cat pic so its 2 colour 4 grey and 2 colour...you can get some really nice templates here : http://www.freecsstemplates.org/...add some meta tags and you pretty much on your way David J Brooks wrote: Thanks to all that offered suggestions for my new logo. Here it is on the site.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ I think it looks pretty nice. Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:24 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ That looks really nice, Dave. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm with Doug in thinking that this is a good masthead but is too much for a logo. A logo doesn't even need to be one of your photos. Until I looked I had been worried about directional integrity, so many groupings like this are spoilt by higgledy-piggledy flows of movement within individual pictures that conflict with the overall layout. If your homepage version is more recent than your flickr version (I'm backtracking from Pauls suggestion), then all you need do is flip-flop the flower at top-right so that you have a directional consistency from the centre outwards. As a matter of personal taste I'd be inclined to lose the cat, not because I'm a cat hater (I like them) but because everyone with both a camera and a cat eventually puts a cat-picture on the web. They are a cliche of the age, and say nothing about your professional capability. Put catpix in the body of your website by all means, but not on the masthead or logo. If you plan to do pet portraiture as a business then disregard the preceding rant :-) regards, Anthony "Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight" (Anon) 2009/5/29 Doug Franklin : > David J Brooks wrote: >> >> Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. >> >> Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ > > Personally, I'm thinking this is more of a mission statement than a logo. > :-) If it were me, I'd look for something more compact to use for a logo > and use this image as more like a masthead or something. > > -- > Thanks, > DougF (KG4LMZ) > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> > Thanks to all that offered suggestions for my new logo. > > Here it is on the site.: > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ > > I think it looks pretty nice. > > Dave > The logo looks fine, Dave, but unless there's something I'm missing you have quite a lot more work to do on the rest of the site. I looked at it in Chrome, Opera and IE8 and it doesn't seem to have much in the way of page layout design - is this intentional, or am I missing some sort of plug-in? There are also quite a few spelling and grammar errors in the text. Regards Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ Personally, I'm thinking this is more of a mission statement than a logo. :-) If it were me, I'd look for something more compact to use for a logo and use this image as more like a masthead or something. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: I agree with Bong about the same size boxes (that would be nice), but I'm obviously not as anal as him, because I don't advocate alternating B&W and colour... I'd like all of the photos in one row to be the same height, but I don't mind their horizontal edges not lining up. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ It's OK, but the text gets lost in that presentation. If you're going to do it that way (with the text kinda "dangling" from the bottom of the grid of photos) you may need to put some sort of border around it. Personally, I'd overlay the text on the photos. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David, I like this version. Did like the previous too... Looking good to me. LF David J Brooks escreveu: Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: So far I got it will go for a website header. IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's viewer has to scroll down way too much. My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too small caps or both all caps. Peter Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree, the borders around the images are too big. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: OT New logo, try #2 By the time I got a look, you had uploaded the revised edition as well, which I liked. I'm no expert, but if the border and the dividers could be scaled down a bit, they wouldn't overpower the images as they seem to do now. Smaller text too. You're showing the photos, not the name, at least online. On a business card, what you have would work and be very readable. On May 28, 2009, at 07:59 , David J Brooks wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ Simple logo for a VERY simple site. Comments welcome. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree, the images sizes should be the same. Looks haphazard as is. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bong Manayon" Subject: Re: OT New logo, try #2 The idea and the actual photos used are okay but I would like to see the boxes the same sizes (...just my obsessive compulsive thing...) and alternating the BW & color photos... Bong :-) On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ Simple logo for a VERY simple site. Comments welcome. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks to all that offered suggestions for my new logo. Here it is on the site.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ I think it looks pretty nice. Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:24 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote: >> Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. >> >> Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ > > That looks really nice, Dave. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
By the time I got a look, you had uploaded the revised edition as well, which I liked. I'm no expert, but if the border and the dividers could be scaled down a bit, they wouldn't overpower the images as they seem to do now. Smaller text too. You're showing the photos, not the name, at least online. On a business card, what you have would work and be very readable. On May 28, 2009, at 07:59 , David J Brooks wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ Simple logo for a VERY simple site. Comments welcome. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. > > Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ That looks really nice, Dave. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
That would be swap positions between the cat and the church pic that's next to the cat. Keep the cat in the lower row but move him one to the right. Paul On May 28, 2009, at 2:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: So far I got it will go for a website header. IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's viewer has to scroll down way too much. My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too small caps or both all caps. Peter Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
I think you should swap positions between the cat and the church. Then you've go it. Very nice. Paul On May 28, 2009, at 2:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: So far I got it will go for a website header. IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's viewer has to scroll down way too much. My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too small caps or both all caps. Peter Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
I like this one better. I think it quite effective. Dan On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. > > Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ > > Dave > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: >> So far I got it will go for a website header. >> >> IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's >> viewer has to scroll down way too much. >> >> My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too >> small caps or both all caps. >> >> Peter >> >> Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2
Hopefully it will be smaller when on the site. Here is try number 3, i';m getting close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573147749/ Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: > So far I got it will go for a website header. > > IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's > viewer has to scroll down way too much. > > My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too > small caps or both all caps. > > Peter > > Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
So far I got it will go for a website header. IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's viewer has to scroll down way too much. My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too small caps or both all caps. Peter Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I agree. It's a nice logo, but uniformity will help here. > Paul Thanks Paul. Back to CS1 for some adjustments. Dave > On May 28, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: > >> The idea and the actual photos used are okay but I would like to see >> the boxes the same sizes (...just my obsessive compulsive thing...) >> and alternating the BW & color photos... >> >> Bong :-) >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 PM, David J Brooks >> wrote: >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ >>> >>> Simple logo for a VERY simple site. >>> >>> Comments welcome. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> -- >>> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >>> www.caughtinmotion.com >>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >>> York Region, Ontario, Canada >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bong Manayon >> http://www.bong.uni.cc >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
I agree. It's a nice logo, but uniformity will help here. Paul On May 28, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: The idea and the actual photos used are okay but I would like to see the boxes the same sizes (...just my obsessive compulsive thing...) and alternating the BW & color photos... Bong :-) On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ Simple logo for a VERY simple site. Comments welcome. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ >> >> Simple logo for a VERY simple site. >> >> Comments welcome. > > I agree with Bong about the same size boxes (that would be nice), but > I'm obviously not as anal as him, because I don't advocate alternating > B&W and colour... > > Looks nice, Dave! Thanks. I'll play a bit with the boxes. They are hand scaled but i thought i had them close, but i guess not.:-0 Dave Dave > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
Thanks. I think i should make the boxes the same size, and may be move at least one B&W. They do seem a bit bunched. Dave On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: > The idea and the actual photos used are okay but I would like to see > the boxes the same sizes (...just my obsessive compulsive thing...) > and alternating the BW & color photos... > > Bong :-) > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ >> >> Simple logo for a VERY simple site. >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> York Region, Ontario, Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Bong Manayon > http://www.bong.uni.cc > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ > > Simple logo for a VERY simple site. > > Comments welcome. I agree with Bong about the same size boxes (that would be nice), but I'm obviously not as anal as him, because I don't advocate alternating B&W and colour... Looks nice, Dave! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The idea and the actual photos used are okay but I would like to see the boxes the same sizes (...just my obsessive compulsive thing...) and alternating the BW & color photos... Bong :-) On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ > > Simple logo for a VERY simple site. > > Comments welcome. > > Dave > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT New logo, try #2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3573534830/ Simple logo for a VERY simple site. Comments welcome. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
