RE: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
From: Bob W -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eckinator A few curious facts: 1. The Powerpoint creator has never intended it for such a broad user base. So it was designed for a much narrower category of users. I hear the whir of Alfred Nobel spinning in his grave.. if the creator of PowerPoint has any shred of decency in him we'll see the emergence of the PowerPoint Peace Prize after his death, too... One of my brothers suggested I do my mother's eulogy as a Powerpoint presentation. Not quite having the bottle for that, here is something I have just put together which might be handy for the inventor of Powerpoint: http://www.web-options.com/Fun.ppt B Powerpoint can be a useful tool for presentations *IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING* Too many don't. They get side-tracked by all the available gew-gaw gimmcrackery and loose sight of the purpose, i.e. to visually convey an over-all message as a series of inter-related coherent points. Almost all of the presentations I saw at this years PPNC convention were done with power point, and they were all powerful and effective. There wasn't a single flying spinning exploding text in the whole lot. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3495 - Release Date: 03/09/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: This is traditional: http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/ Damn! You beat me to it... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
2011/3/8 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: A few curious facts: 1. The Powerpoint creator has never intended it for such a broad user base. So it was designed for a much narrower category of users. I hear the whir of Alfred Nobel spinning in his grave.. if the creator of PowerPoint has any shred of decency in him we'll see the emergence of the PowerPoint Peace Prize after his death, too... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eckinator A few curious facts: 1. The Powerpoint creator has never intended it for such a broad user base. So it was designed for a much narrower category of users. I hear the whir of Alfred Nobel spinning in his grave.. if the creator of PowerPoint has any shred of decency in him we'll see the emergence of the PowerPoint Peace Prize after his death, too... One of my brothers suggested I do my mother's eulogy as a Powerpoint presentation. Not quite having the bottle for that, here is something I have just put together which might be handy for the inventor of Powerpoint: http://www.web-options.com/Fun.ppt B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Hi! My (almost former) co-worker and a friend (and a fellow Nikonian) is developing an interesting project management system he called Gigantt. We discussed it in some detail and I find his approach really interesting. Have a look if you're so inclined. http://www.gigantt.com/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Boris, OMG, it's Flow Charting gone wild! And as the music played faster and faster I began to feel like I was working... Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! My (almost former) co-worker and a friend (and a fellow Nikonian) is developing an interesting project management system he called Gigantt. We discussed it in some detail and I find his approach really interesting. Have a look if you're so inclined. http://www.gigantt.com/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Definitely interesting. Ask him if he needs a German distributor! Cheers Ecke 2011/3/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hi! My (almost former) co-worker and a friend (and a fellow Nikonian) is developing an interesting project management system he called Gigantt. We discussed it in some detail and I find his approach really interesting. Have a look if you're so inclined. http://www.gigantt.com/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Nice funny video with Sweet Georgia Brown, - one of the most popular gipsy-jazz songs of all times (and a favorite of many Balboa-swing dancers). As for gone wild, - as Bob wrote, - it reminded me a video on PowerPoint presentations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvgfmEU2Ck Cheers, Igor On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Boris Liberman boris71 at gmail.com wrote: Hi! My (almost former) co-worker and a friend (and a fellow Nikonian) is developing an interesting project management system he called Gigantt. We discussed it in some detail and I find his approach really interesting. Have a look if you're so inclined. http://www.gigantt.com/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
On Mar 7, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Nice funny video with Sweet Georgia Brown, - one of the most popular gipsy-jazz songs of all times (and a favorite of many Balboa-swing dancers). As for gone wild, - as Bob wrote, - it reminded me a video on PowerPoint presentations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvgfmEU2Ck My friend Charlie has a great series of books (The Laundryverse) based on two premises: The C'thulu is real Besides saying spells out loud, you can also perform them by running a series of operations on a computer. One day he was working on a scene for one of his books and posted to his live journal the question: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Larry Colen wrote: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? I thought that was the function of all Powerpoint presentations. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
My friend Charlie has a great series of books (The Laundryverse) based on two premises: The C'thulu is real Besides saying spells out loud, you can also perform them by running a series of operations on a computer. One day he was working on a scene for one of his books and posted to his live journal the question: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? under a hail of bullet points. http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/graphics/home_stalin_poster.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
On 3/7/2011 4:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? I thought that was the function of all Powerpoint presentations. I think a deep coma is the usual expected effect. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? I thought that was the function of all Powerpoint presentations. he's not dead, he's just sleeping ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
I've been through a few that made a ten story fall seem more appealing than usual. --Original Message-- From: Mark Roberts Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo Sent: Mar 7, 2011 4:49 PM Larry Colen wrote: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? I thought that was the function of all Powerpoint presentations. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Larry Colen wrote: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? I thought that was the function of all Powerpoint presentations. I've been through a few that made a ten story fall seem more appealing than usual. This is traditional: http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/ -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: How would you kill someone with a power point presentation? I thought that was the function of all Powerpoint presentations. As with any tools, there are good ways of using it, and there are the ways that a majority uses it. A few curious facts: 1. The Powerpoint creator has never intended it for such a broad user base. So it was designed for a much narrower category of users. 2. One can learn the right ways of using the PP. There are people who even write books about that, such as E. Tufte already quoted by Bob W. Speaking of which, IMHO, Tufte provides some reasonable criticism, but some of his suggestions have post-modernism level with a high level of showing off - for which the french word is epatage. At that point it is not applicable or comprehensible for the broader audience (or for that matter, - even I and my colleagues and friends who have well-above-average level of education and training on the topic of art of presentations do not understand what he wants to say). There are people who have much better, practical approaches to teaching how to use PPT effiently. Just one example: Michael Alley. He has very nice book: The craft of scientific presentations : critical steps to succeed and critical errors to avoid. http://www.worldcat.org/title/craft-of-scientific-presentations-critical-steps-to-succeed-and-critical-errors-to-avoid/oclc/50314962 There is also a nice website with examples and templates: http://www.writing.engr.psu.edu/slides.html While I disagree with him on some (mostly minor) aspects, this is a good resource. I also like this book: http://www.worldcat.org/title/dazzle-em-with-style-the-art-of-oral-scientific-presentation/oclc/29667839 R. R. H. Anholt, Dazzle 'em with style : the art of oral scientific presentation - It doesn't focus as much on the PPT, focusing on the all aspects of presentations (including viewgraphs); but still enough to point out how it should be done. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic: A bit of a promo
On 3/7/2011 9:06 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: As for gone wild, - as Bob wrote, - it reminded me a video on PowerPoint presentations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvgfmEU2Ck Cheers, Igor I was once given a course in technical presentations. I should say that although not that cheerfully and colorfully, but our teacher gave use very similar advise to this man. What is striking me is that very often people who do PP for marketing (duh!) are completely unaware of most useful 6x6 rule - no more than 6 lines, no more than 6 words a line. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
