Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Tim S Kemp wrote: Don't ship your film, it's the only thing you should hand carry! Surely though it could be arranged to purchase the film at your destination, if not then suffer the hand carrying experience, I don't think anyone will object to film. Sometimes one can purchase film at their destination - it just depends on the film choice and the destination. I know that Bob has been to places where many types of film are unavailable, as have I. While I don't unequivocally advocate shipping film, there may well be times when it's a good choice. -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Sometimes one can purchase film at their destination - it just depends on the film choice and the destination. I know that Bob has been to places where many types of film are unavailable, as have I. While I don't unequivocally advocate shipping film, there may well be times when it's a good choice. Of course when we all have our MZ-D and 645D cameras we'll stop buying film or you can normally by Kodak Gold at the airport ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Hi, Tuesday, October 02, 2001, 4:44:31 PM, you wrote: Sometimes one can purchase film at their destination - it just depends on the film choice and the destination. Konica slide film has quite a presence in Africa, but the storage conditions and age of the film make it an absolutely last resort. [...] While I don't unequivocally advocate shipping film, there may well be times when it's a good choice. if things get to the point where carry-on sizes are reduced to a real minimum then it may be the only choice. I once travelled on Ethiopia for a while with a professional photographer who had brought several hundreds of rolls of film, all in a very large Samsonite case - too large to carry on anywhere - and he had a lot of experience of travelling in the countries around the Red Sea, so perhaps the x-ray machines aren't as bad as they're made out. Or perhaps there is some way for photographers to arrange for checked luggage to be examined by hand and not go through the x-rays. Anybody got any ideas about that? What happens when somebody like Salgado or the Magnum photographers go to obscure countries? I'm sure they can't carry all their film on as hand luggage. Perhaps next time I go to Ethiopia I'll have to go via South Africa, stock up on film there, and then travel up to Ethiopia. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Only take as much film as you can fit in your pocket Perhaps travelers can start express-mailing themselves their film to and from their destinations. And maybe even their gear. That way you can insure it and FedEx or whoever is responsible if it gets lost or stolen... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Perhaps travelers can start express-mailing themselves their film to and from their destinations. And maybe even their gear. That way you can insure it and FedEx or whoever is responsible if it gets lost or stolen... What I am doing next week is sending all my stuff via DHL and meeting it at the destination... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
The point is: Does security people know that a well trained person (man or woman) can kill another with his/hers hands? They do NOT need a knife for that purpose. What's next ? If you know karate you have to travel by train or ship ? ;-) What do you think if the next terrorist has steel shoe laces? IMHO, it's very difficult to stop these people if they really want to do something. Maybe next time it's not in an airplane, but a bomb in a mall or shopping center Regards Martin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
I thought that Fedex also CTXed the packages, too -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: One airline bans all carry-on luggage Only take as much film as you can fit in your pocket Perhaps travelers can start express-mailing themselves their film to and from their destinations. And maybe even their gear. That way you can insure it and FedEx or whoever is responsible if it gets lost or stolen... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[4]: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Hi, Monday, October 01, 2001, 9:47:38 AM, you wrote: . A serious thief would need to have x-rayed it to know the contents, and to have some fairly serious equipment to get inside. They would just steal the case quite possibly, but there's nothing I can do to prevent that. The best I can do is make it as difficult as possible. If they don't know what's in the case, and it's difficult to open, then the chances of it being stolen are reduced. In a scruffy grey Pelican case it's as likely to be some deadly dull piece of engineering equipment, impossible to sell and useless to the thief, as it is to be cameras or other desirables. I've always taken my film on as hand baggage, so that could cause difficulties if hand baggage is banned internationally, but I think that is highly unlikely to happen, although I'm sure they will drastically reduce the size of carry-on bags. Only take as much film as you can fit in your pocket Not good enough. I habitually travel with 100+ rolls of film and travel for weeks or months in places where decent film is effectively unobtainable. Professional photographers take several hundred rolls at a time. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Bob Walkden wrote: Only take as much film as you can fit in your pocket Not good enough. I habitually travel with 100+ rolls of film and travel for weeks or months in places where decent film is effectively unobtainable. Professional photographers take several hundred rolls at a time. Of course, we all have different needs and preferences. Discussion of this situation on other lists have brought up the suggestion of using FedEx or DHL to send film and gear to your destination, and I can see how that might work in some situations for some people. If one travels frequently to certain places it might be advantageous to leave gear in those places with a friend. Elliott Erwitt, who traveled quite a bit, used to have a stash of lights and tripods in several cities in Europe, and all he took with him were his cameras. While those were more halcyon days, the concept is still workable. I've devised a scheme where I now send most of my clothes ahead, and carry just the barest minimum in one of the Domke satchels, which, thus far, has come along as carry on. I then send the dirty clothes back home by appropriate carrier. I think that the problems and, more importantly, the confusion, will soon settle out, as a standard set of rules and regulations will take effect. Then we'll all know what's possible and what the best options are for each of us. -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Hi, Shel sprayed on the cavern wall: Elliott Erwitt, who traveled quite a bit, used to have a stash of lights and tripods in several cities in Europe, and all he took with him were his cameras. While those were more halcyon days, the concept is still workable. that's a good idea. Now I just have to convince Magnum to invite me to join, then I can use their offices and their film :o) Erwitt's in London in December. I'll ask him when I see him. I'm sure they'll take it on trust that my photos are good enough...g --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
When traveling in the US for work, I frequently send clothes, roller blades, and a tripod to my destination via UPS or FedEx. I take my cameras as carry-on in a Pelican Case, and pack my flash, flash bracket and umbrella in a check-in bag. Any use of photo equipment is only peripheral to my job, so I take it with mainly to entertain myself. But I'd hate to spend a month out of town without my cameras. Later this month I'll be working in Mexico for an extended period of time. I'm not sure if I want to take 5000 dollars worth of equipment down there. I'm thinking I might just take an MX and two or three lenses. Does anyone here have any experience in Mexico City? How secure are premium hotel rooms? Are street muggings frequent? Paul Creature's Comfort wrote: Bob Walkden wrote: Only take as much film as you can fit in your pocket Not good enough. I habitually travel with 100+ rolls of film and travel for weeks or months in places where decent film is effectively unobtainable. Professional photographers take several hundred rolls at a time. Of course, we all have different needs and preferences. Discussion of this situation on other lists have brought up the suggestion of using FedEx or DHL to send film and gear to your destination, and I can see how that might work in some situations for some people. If one travels frequently to certain places it might be advantageous to leave gear in those places with a friend. Elliott Erwitt, who traveled quite a bit, used to have a stash of lights and tripods in several cities in Europe, and all he took with him were his cameras. While those were more halcyon days, the concept is still workable. I've devised a scheme where I now send most of my clothes ahead, and carry just the barest minimum in one of the Domke satchels, which, thus far, has come along as carry on. I then send the dirty clothes back home by appropriate carrier. I think that the problems and, more importantly, the confusion, will soon settle out, as a standard set of rules and regulations will take effect. Then we'll all know what's possible and what the best options are for each of us. -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
- Original Message - From: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage Hi, Amita, Be careful if you're doing that internationally. While it may or may not be directly applicable to this situation, I had a really bad experience with an item that I bought off of eBay. It was shipped by UPS in the US to my home in Canada. The shipper in the US paid around $10 to ship it (the item was only worth about $20). UPS wanted to charge me a $40 brokerage fee for getting it across the border. This is just typical UPS. They are IMHO criminals in the way they do cross border shipping. First, they get your belongings into their possession, then they effectively hold it for ransom. I have on one occassion had to pay UPS a brokerage fee on a product which came across the border with no duties or taxes other than the GST. Ship via FED/EX. They are, at least, honest business men. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Hi, If i ship via USPS to Australia then when it enters the country i have to pay %10GST on item if its worth over $250au, once this package enters australia its shipped via Australia Post which is a government thing. But if i have the item sent with Fedex the Australian Customs charges at extra $51 brokerage fee, when the package enters the country, this is because Fedex is a private company. Paul - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage - Original Message - From: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage Hi, Amita, Be careful if you're doing that internationally. While it may or may not be directly applicable to this situation, I had a really bad experience with an item that I bought off of eBay. It was shipped by UPS in the US to my home in Canada. The shipper in the US paid around $10 to ship it (the item was only worth about $20). UPS wanted to charge me a $40 brokerage fee for getting it across the border. This is just typical UPS. They are IMHO criminals in the way they do cross border shipping. First, they get your belongings into their possession, then they effectively hold it for ransom. I have on one occassion had to pay UPS a brokerage fee on a product which came across the border with no duties or taxes other than the GST. Ship via FED/EX. They are, at least, honest business men. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
Or check it in, so you can pick it up after you leave the plane. Shouldn't be so difficult to have a relative small box that can hold these items for the passengers locked during the flight. Frits Wüthrich BTW I agree with your opinion of the confiscation. They should either stick it in the hold to be picked up on arrival, or returned to you by post or whatever. Cheers, - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: One airline bans all carry- on luggage
Sounds like the start of bad times for Pan American airlines to me. Did you guys look at the website? There are only eight destinations, and they're mostly smaller, suburban airports. The fleet is 727's, probably capable of flying to the west coast but these planes stay on the east coast. Given the fact that the terrorists were trying to kill the greatest amount of people possible, using large planes full of fuel for trans-continental flights, I don't think that the new Pan Am will be a target. I don't know who flies the new Pan Am, but I don't think that it will be much of an indicator of how the rest of the industry goes. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: One airline bans all carry-on luggage
I have to do something like this with my gear. Are you saying that you don't lock your cases in anyway? Otis Wright Tim S Kemp wrote: Geez, the last thing I want is for some luggage handler to be throwing my camera bag around! Seems to me that, knowing that all carry-ons are subject to inspection, what are the chances of bad things happening? I think it's overkill. OK guys, I work in the airport industry, and my camera gear is only an MZ50, two lenses (for now) and some filters. I have a Technobag 3 hard polypropylene non-lockable case with the foam cut to match the gear. I have the same case for my laptop, same for my radiomics, same for my audio gear (other hobby...) I put luggage straps around them and always check them in. Knowing what the x-ray scanners in the hold baggage check area are like I put film in my inside jacket pocket, and remove all items that will set off the AMD (archway metal detector) and put them in hold baggage. Tools are in an aluminium case, unlocked, with luggage strap. I carry on only my walkman, wallet and travel docs. Packed like that I've never had any damaged gear in my regular 10-15 flights per annum, normally on cheap carriers from naff airports. Stop being fussy, insure your gear, get some good hard cases and check them in. Only once had a query (refill for a gas soldering iron). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
