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Hi! J Dear gang, Dear Jostein :). J I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. J Please look at the image first, before you read on. J http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html To my utter amazement - each time I tried to load this one up in my office it came out as a link to www.tbt.no. From home it loaded up just fine... J All taken in June last year, naturally...:-) J It's a mosaic of many, many shots. Assembled manually in Photoshop to J a resulting image size of about 119 megapixels. I planned for all the J shots of the lighthouse itself, but took only 6 shots of the sky. The J sky is then filled out by pasting copies. J I wanted to create a rather shattered look, inspired by something I J saw in Aperture magazine about to years ago. It was never my intention J to produce a straight shot. :-) J However, I'm not at all certain what kind of impression it gives the J viewer. What say you? It gives an impression that a photographer who made this has an abstract painter alter ego... Seriously... It looks quite nice otherwise. However off the top of the lighthouse... There is this very first white band and then black band. If you look closer, you'd see that black band has slight stitching imperfection... Just my rather few pixels worth. Boris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't care too much for the moasic effect on the sky itself; the uneven blocks don't really do anything for me. But I like how the lighthouse et al look; it looks very artistic and seems to amplify the towering effect of the lighthouse. Good work, and keep at refining this technique :) On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:53:25 +0100, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear gang, I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html All taken in June last year, naturally...:-) It's a mosaic of many, many shots. Assembled manually in Photoshop to a resulting image size of about 119 megapixels. I planned for all the shots of the lighthouse itself, but took only 6 shots of the sky. The sky is then filled out by pasting copies. I wanted to create a rather shattered look, inspired by something I saw in Aperture magazine about to years ago. It was never my intention to produce a straight shot. :-) However, I'm not at all certain what kind of impression it gives the viewer. What say you? Thanks, Jostein
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http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Redirected to: http://www.tbt.no/ Sorry about that. My domain changed IP less than 24 hours before I posted the link. Stupid of me not to wait another day before posting. Normally DNS servers update their records within 48 hours after a change, so please try again. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Thanks for the comments, Mike and Bob W. Hockney's shot is interesting, but not really what I'm after, I think. I remember a long time ago when I first saw Picasso's Guernica. I thought it was a load of crap until I learned the history behind the pic. Then I was stunned by the effectiveness of cubism to express the situation. Picasso's way of abstracting objects to geometrical forms is not interesting in terms of photography, but the fragmentation of perspective certainly is. The photos I saw in Aperture Magazine two years ago was much in the same line. They were published as an afterthought to 11. September 2001. They pictured large architectural structures like the Eiffel tower in Paris and London Bridge. Each tile in the picture was taken from the same position, but with different tilt to the camera. The effect was very striking. While my attempt obviously is a bit half-hearted yet, Jon M's thoughts are very interesing. If I understood him right, he imagined the pic to be describing what could have happened if things went wrong when they relocated the lighthouse some years back. :-) I plan to use the technique for a quite specific project that is very slow in the coming. It's so time-consuming to put these composites together, and it's difficult to visualise how to create a mosaic with the right impact. Photoshop and digital introduces some flexibility, but it still needs planning ahead. One has to get the tiles right, even if they're tilted...:-) Cheers, Jostein Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html [...] I'm not sure what the point of the photo or technique is. It looks a bit like the stuff Hockney was doing with Polaroids 20+ years ago, but his purpose was to explore multiple-viewpoint perspective, and notions of movement in photographs. http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~malek/Hockney9.html It's not a very big version but it gives some of the idea of what Hockney was trying. Yours seems to be rather different. Certainly produces another view of what would have been a straightforward record shot. mike mike This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Jostien, With the fix, I can now see the photo. It is interesting. I especially like how the lighthouse itself looks. The stripes and the patches work well together. I like the sky around the lighthouse a lot less. It is the weakest part of the photo for me. Overall, it makes a fresh look at cliche subject. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:44 +0100, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Redirected to: http://www.tbt.no/ Sorry about that. My domain changed IP less than 24 hours before I posted the link. Stupid of me not to wait another day before posting. Normally DNS servers update their records within 48 hours after a change, so please try again. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:44 +0100, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that. My domain changed IP less than 24 hours before I posted the link. Stupid of me not to wait another day before posting. Normally DNS servers update their records within 48 hours after a change, so please try again. Jostein Well, now that I've seen it, I have to say that it just isn't my cup o' tea. I'm not terribly fond of manipulation of images at all, but it the aim of the manipulation is to make them ~less~ realistic, then I'm less fond again. I don't know why; maybe I'm just an old stick-in-the mud. I mean, if you painted such an image, I might like it. But if you photograph the image, then take it apart and re-assemble it as you did, I don't like the result. The flip side of that, is that I'm not fond of painting that's ultra-realistic (like Canada's Alex Colville, for example). Geez, if you wanted to make it look like a photograph, you could have saved lots of time, and just taken a picture! vbg Maybe I just have to broaden my artistic horizons. g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
PAW -- Cape Hatteras
Dear gang, I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html All taken in June last year, naturally...:-) It's a mosaic of many, many shots. Assembled manually in Photoshop to a resulting image size of about 119 megapixels. I planned for all the shots of the lighthouse itself, but took only 6 shots of the sky. The sky is then filled out by pasting copies. I wanted to create a rather shattered look, inspired by something I saw in Aperture magazine about to years ago. It was never my intention to produce a straight shot. :-) However, I'm not at all certain what kind of impression it gives the viewer. What say you? Thanks, Jostein
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Very interesting and quite creative. I don't care for the results very much, but I like the concept and I think you may be on to something really neat. I'd love to see some more examples of the concept. Maybe different photos would give a stronger result. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html
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On 13/1/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html All taken in June last year, naturally...:-) It's a mosaic of many, many shots. Assembled manually in Photoshop to a resulting image size of about 119 megapixels. I planned for all the shots of the lighthouse itself, but took only 6 shots of the sky. The sky is then filled out by pasting copies. I wanted to create a rather shattered look, inspired by something I saw in Aperture magazine about to years ago. It was never my intention to produce a straight shot. :-) However, I'm not at all certain what kind of impression it gives the viewer. What say you? I like it. At first I wasn't sure, but it grew on me. The fact that you put a lot of effort into it sort of justified my preference - EG if it had just been a simple filter in PS, I would have been disappointed. I looked first and then read the further info. Well done! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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It would have been much more powerful an image if you'd made it before they moved the lighthouse, and then it was destroyed before or during the move. But thankfully, the 12 million dollars they spent to slide it a half mile across the island wasn't wasted. Such a long climb, but such a nice view. Just make sure you hold onto your hat/sunglasses/cameras/anything else loose before you step out onto the balcony. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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- Original Message - From: Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would have been much more powerful an image if you'd made it before they moved the lighthouse, and then it was destroyed before or during the move. Yeah, it shows on the pic, doesn't it...:-) Didn't have a chance to do it any sooner, though, since that was my first visit to USA. But thankfully, the 12 million dollars they spent to slide it a half mile across the island wasn't wasted. Such a long climb, but such a nice view. Just make sure you hold onto your hat/sunglasses/cameras/anything else loose before you step out onto the balcony. 'tis was too late in the evening when we got there, it was closed for the day. :-( Thanks for the comments, Jon Jostein
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- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like it. At first I wasn't sure, but it grew on me. The fact that you put a lot of effort into it sort of justified my preference - EG if it had just been a simple filter in PS, I would have been disappointed. I looked first and then read the further info. Well done! Thanks, mate. Your reaction from before you read on is what wanted to hear. I suspected that some would let appreciation of a big job influence their opinion on the pic. :-) It's probably like Shel said, that the subject doesn't lean itself too well to the technique, but I still think it has some more potential than I've been able to pull out. Cheers, Jostein
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- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very interesting and quite creative. I don't care for the results very much, but I like the concept and I think you may be on to something really neat. I'd love to see some more examples of the concept. Maybe different photos would give a stronger result. Yeah. The article in Aperture back then had shots of architecture that filled up more of the frame, creating a much denser scenes. I've been exploring some different subjects, and it's not always easy to see what kind of shape dissolvement will suit the subject. In this scene, I decided to align the black spiralling pattern and let the rest just become what it became. That may not have been a good idea. I may get around to another try with this image, but I'll have to expand the hard-drive partition that holds the PS swap-file first. 4,5 Gb is just too little. :-) Thanks for your thoughts, Shel. Jostein
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- Original Message - From: Jostein Subject: PAW -- Cape Hatteras Dear gang, I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html Redirected to: http://www.tbt.no/ William Robb
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On 13/1/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: I still think it has some more potential than I've been able to pull out. agreed Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jostein Dear gang, I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html Redirected to: http://www.tbt.no/ Same here. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Hi, I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html [...] I wanted to create a rather shattered look, inspired by something I saw in Aperture magazine about to years ago. It was never my intention to produce a straight shot. :-) However, I'm not at all certain what kind of impression it gives the viewer. What say you? I'm not sure what the point of the photo or technique is. It looks a bit like the stuff Hockney was doing with Polaroids 20+ years ago, but his purpose was to explore multiple-viewpoint perspective, and notions of movement in photographs. -- Cheers, Bob
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That's about how I feel about it, too. I think it falls into a kind of halfway stage between a true undistorted image, and the fractured reflection we saw recently (a shot from annsan in Chicago, IIRC). As such, it's neither one thing nor the other, and suffers as a result. Perhaps an image with more content would work better - I think this particular subject, with a lot of the strength coming from a single shape, doesn't lend itself to this approach. On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:59:29AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Very interesting and quite creative. I don't care for the results very much, but I like the concept and I think you may be on to something really neat. I'd love to see some more examples of the concept. Maybe different photos would give a stronger result. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:12:03 -0500, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here. Moi aussi... -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Bob W wrote: Hi, I would very much like to hear your opinions on the picture at the link. Please look at the image first, before you read on. http://www.oksne.net/paw/hatteras-mosaic.html [...] I wanted to create a rather shattered look, inspired by something I saw in Aperture magazine about to years ago. It was never my intention to produce a straight shot. :-) However, I'm not at all certain what kind of impression it gives the viewer. What say you? I'm not sure what the point of the photo or technique is. It looks a bit like the stuff Hockney was doing with Polaroids 20+ years ago, but his purpose was to explore multiple-viewpoint perspective, and notions of movement in photographs. http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~malek/Hockney9.html It's not a very big version but it gives some of the idea of what Hockney was trying. Yours seems to be rather different. Certainly produces another view of what would have been a straightforward record shot. mike mike
