Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
Maybe I should try going in there with my fisheye... Thanks, Bruce! Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, this one screams out to be shot much wider - get real close and shoot wide to emphasize how crowded it looks. As presented, it doesn't seem to portray what you experienced. -- Bruce Monday, April 2, 2007, 4:55:00 PM, you wrote: RW Another from our recent trip to New York City. This RW is a nocturnal shot through the window of a RW vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side. It RW amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small RW space in that neighborhood. RW http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682 RW ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping RW and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. RW If there are no comments I'll start sulking again... RW Rick RW http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW RW RW Don't pick lemons. RW See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. RW http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Another from our recent trip to New York City. This is a nocturnal shot through the window of a vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side. It amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small space in that neighborhood. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682 ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. If there are no comments I'll start sulking again... Rick, Can't have a man sulk... The issue with this photo, to me, is that you describe the store as a jumble and present a photo that is also pretty much a jumble. Unfortunately, that doesn't do justice to the portrayal of the store's crowded spaces as too much of my attention is drawn upwards to the large open space of the ceiling and lights, which *isn't* a jumble, while the rest tends to fall down into murky and poorly separated shadows below, which I can't really see well enough to call one thing or another other than a mess... The balance of light and shadow here is 'as caught' which isn't the best way to render the scene. Simply toning down the lights and bringing up the values in the lower foreground enhances the sense of space, the sense of a 'store crammed full of stuff', rather than just presenting a jumble under a brightly lit ceiling. Contrast this edit with your original: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/5801682-lg-g.jpg By rebalancing the relationship of light from top to bottom, it refocuses our eyes to notice the important things ... all the merchandise and the area of 'business' in the store, and not give up looking at the ceiling and the dark jumble of bits below it. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Another from our recent trip to New York City. This is a nocturnal shot through the window of a vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side. It amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small space in that neighborhood. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682 ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. If there are no comments I'll start sulking again... Rick, Can't have a man sulk... The issue with this photo, to me, is that you describe the store as a jumble and present a photo that is also pretty much a jumble. Unfortunately, that doesn't do justice to the portrayal of the store's crowded spaces as too much of my attention is drawn upwards to the large open space of the ceiling and lights, which *isn't* a jumble, while the rest tends to fall down into murky and poorly separated shadows below, which I can't really see well enough to call one thing or another other than a mess... The balance of light and shadow here is 'as caught' which isn't the best way to render the scene. Simply toning down the lights and bringing up the values in the lower foreground enhances the sense of space, the sense of a 'store crammed full of stuff', rather than just presenting a jumble under a brightly lit ceiling. Contrast this edit with your original: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/5801682-lg-g.jpg By rebalancing the relationship of light from top to bottom, it refocuses our eyes to notice the important things ... all the merchandise and the area of 'business' in the store, and not give up looking at the ceiling and the dark jumble of bits below it. G RIck - what he said :) AND did - to bring the file up to what you saw... Of course, living in NY and seeing a title of crowded shop I expected to see lots more people ;) Think Crocodile Dundeed saying... You call that a crowd? This is And ff course, since I hate crowds, I don't have a photo of one to make the punch line work. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
In a message dated 4/3/2007 3:23:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/5801682-lg-g.jpg By rebalancing the relationship of light from top to bottom, it refocuses our eyes to notice the important things ... all the merchandise and the area of 'business' in the store, and not give up looking at the ceiling and the dark jumble of bits below it. G === That is so much better. Marnie aka Doe ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
Godders, that is great! I played with it similarly before posting it, but could not get the excellent results that you did. I'll have another go at some point... Thanks! Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Another from our recent trip to New York City. This is a nocturnal shot through the window of a vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side. It amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small space in that neighborhood. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682 ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. If there are no comments I'll start sulking again... Rick, Can't have a man sulk... The issue with this photo, to me, is that you describe the store as a jumble and present a photo that is also pretty much a jumble. Unfortunately, that doesn't do justice to the portrayal of the store's crowded spaces as too much of my attention is drawn upwards to the large open space of the ceiling and lights, which *isn't* a jumble, while the rest tends to fall down into murky and poorly separated shadows below, which I can't really see well enough to call one thing or another other than a mess... The balance of light and shadow here is 'as caught' which isn't the best way to render the scene. Simply toning down the lights and bringing up the values in the lower foreground enhances the sense of space, the sense of a 'store crammed full of stuff', rather than just presenting a jumble under a brightly lit ceiling. Contrast this edit with your original: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/5801682-lg-g.jpg By rebalancing the relationship of light from top to bottom, it refocuses our eyes to notice the important things ... all the merchandise and the area of 'business' in the store, and not give up looking at the ceiling and the dark jumble of bits below it. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
Another from our recent trip to New York City. This is a nocturnal shot through the window of a vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side. It amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small space in that neighborhood. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682 ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. If there are no comments I'll start sulking again... Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC
For me, this one screams out to be shot much wider - get real close and shoot wide to emphasize how crowded it looks. As presented, it doesn't seem to portray what you experienced. -- Bruce Monday, April 2, 2007, 4:55:00 PM, you wrote: RW Another from our recent trip to New York City. This RW is a nocturnal shot through the window of a RW vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side. It RW amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small RW space in that neighborhood. RW http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682 RW ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping RW and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. RW If there are no comments I'll start sulking again... RW Rick RW http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW RW RW Don't pick lemons. RW See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. RW http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
