Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-15 Thread Peter J. Alling
Just remember to keep telling yourself that Frank.
frank theriault wrote:
On 4/14/05, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Frank, spelling!  Your photos are really pretty, and they're really good.
   

Of course they are.  I was just joking around.  
cheers,
frank
 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-15 Thread frank theriault
On 4/14/05, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank, spelling!  Your photos are really pretty, and they're really good.

Of course they are.  I was just joking around.  

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:03:56PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
> On 4/14/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > "...so then I told that stupid redneck I'd flip his truck into the pond
> > if he kept throwing those stones..."
> 
> "Stupid Redneck";  isn't that a redundancy?
> 

All things are relative...



Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-14 Thread John Forbes
Frank, spelling!  Your photos are really pretty, and they're really good.
John
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:58:03 -0400, frank theriault  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, inter alia:

b)  Not all photos have to be pretty to be good.  Look at mine.
They're rarely pretty.  And, they're rarely good.  Wait, that's not a
very good argument, is it?  Well, you know what I mean.  
cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO -- Natural World III

2005-04-14 Thread frank theriault
On 4/14/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea, yea, I'm milking this but just one more.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature3.html
> 

Now, ~that's~ cool!

It almost looks like a spacecraft, coming into dock to that
leave/piece of garbage.  It's almost as if there's no surface to the
water - everything's just eerily floating in space.

The message is different from the others (at least that's how I took
it), but it's pretty damned cool.

cheers,
frank

ps:  did you get the turtles to sign releases?

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Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread frank theriault
On 4/14/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "...so then I told that stupid redneck I'd flip his truck into the pond
> if he kept throwing those stones..."

"Stupid Redneck";  isn't that a redundancy?



cheers,
frank

-- 
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Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread frank theriault
On 4/14/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another turtle shot.  Same location.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...
> 
> Technical:
> Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
> smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.

I like this better than the first one (which I did like, as you know).

I think it says the same thing to me in terms of poor turkles swimming
and lounging about in garbage, in a more aesthetically pleasing way. 
Less clutter (in the photograph, that is).  Simpler composition, is
what I'm trying to say.

I think this is a more effective photo.  Great stuff.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-14 Thread frank theriault
On 4/13/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Well this is a comment you'll probably ignore.  If the photo is intended to
> be an environmental statement, then I can understand it in that context.  I
> suspect that is what you intended.
> 
> Other than that, I also suspect you and I wouldn't hang it on our
> study/den/library walls...
> 
> We typically try to crop the soda bottles out, yes? :)

Well, I don't want to make this into a huge discussion, but:

a)  Just because he left in the pop bottles (we call it "pop" in some
- but not all - parts of Canada), does he have to be making an
environmental statement?  Is he making a statement at all?  Or is he
just showing a photo, and letting the viewer decide what the statement
is?

b)  Not all photos have to be pretty to be good.  Look at mine. 
They're rarely pretty.  And, they're rarely good.  Wait, that's not a
very good argument, is it?  Well, you know what I mean.  

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-14 Thread frank theriault
On 4/13/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I've gotten enough comments about this being over exposed so I
> decided to give it a little rework.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature1a.html
> 
> Just a few minor adjustments to brightness, and a bit more contrast.
> 

A noticeable improvement, to my mind.  

I've not compared old and new side by side (I'm not much for A/B
comparos anyway - I think they're over-rated), but as a stand alone,
I'm much more satisfied with the brightness/contrast of this one.

I know what you were thinking:  Geez, if ~frank~ thinks it's
overexposed, I gotta do something about this one!  

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread Tom Reese
Re: PESO Natural World II
"Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another turtle shot.  Same location.
> >
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html
then Mark Roberts replied:
> Needs cartoon balloons so we can see what the turtles are saying to
> each other ;-)
"...so then I told that stupid redneck I'd flip his truck into the pond 
if he kept throwing those stones..."

Tom Reese


Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
>Wasn't "Natural" World smart aleck enough?

Unfortunately no. For way too many people the conditions you posted are 
"Natural" and therefore not smart alecky at all.

Kenneth Waller
(not a greenie)



-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 14, 2005 12:44 PM
To: "Peter J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: PESO Natural World II

No, the pun has to be so bad, that it makes your stomach turn, to
really appreciate it.  Kenneth nailed it perfectly.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, April 14, 2005, 9:10:11 AM, you wrote:

PJA> Wasn't "Natural" World smart aleck enough?

PJA> Kenneth Waller wrote:

>>...so this turtle swims into a pond and tells the other turtle, I sure am 
>>TIREd.
>>
>>couldn't resist.
>>
>>The image just begs for a smart aleck title.
>>
>>
>>Kenneth Waller
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Apr 14, 2005 12:42 AM
>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: PESO Natural World II
>>
>>Another turtle shot.  Same location.
>>
>>http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html
>>
>>As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...
>>
>>Technical:
>>Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
>>smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.
>>
>>  
>>






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Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
No, the pun has to be so bad, that it makes your stomach turn, to
really appreciate it.  Kenneth nailed it perfectly.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, April 14, 2005, 9:10:11 AM, you wrote:

PJA> Wasn't "Natural" World smart aleck enough?

PJA> Kenneth Waller wrote:

>>...so this turtle swims into a pond and tells the other turtle, I sure am 
>>TIREd.
>>
>>couldn't resist.
>>
>>The image just begs for a smart aleck title.
>>
>>
>>Kenneth Waller
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Apr 14, 2005 12:42 AM
>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: PESO Natural World II
>>
>>Another turtle shot.  Same location.
>>
>>http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html
>>
>>As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...
>>
>>Technical:
>>Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
>>smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.
>>
>>  
>>





Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Wasn't "Natural" World smart aleck enough?
Kenneth Waller wrote:
...so this turtle swims into a pond and tells the other turtle, I sure am TIREd.
couldn't resist.
The image just begs for a smart aleck title.
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 14, 2005 12:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO Natural World II
Another turtle shot.  Same location.
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...
Technical:
Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.
 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
...so this turtle swims into a pond and tells the other turtle, I sure am TIREd.

couldn't resist.

The image just begs for a smart aleck title.


Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 14, 2005 12:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO Natural World II

Another turtle shot.  Same location.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...

Technical:
Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.

-- 
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke





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Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Roberts
"Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Another turtle shot.  Same location.
>
>http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html

Needs cartoon balloons so we can see what the turtles are saying to each
other ;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO -- Natural World III

2005-04-14 Thread John Forbes
An excellent documentary shot.  Poor bloody turtles, having to live and  
die in that lot.

John
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 7:41:46 +, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005/04/14 Thu AM 04:45:11 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO -- Natural World III
Yea, yea, I'm milking this but just one more.
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature3.html
Subtle - and redolent of Jostein's picture of ethereally floating lily  
pads.  Nice one.

mike
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Re: PESO -- Natural World III

2005-04-14 Thread m.9.wilson

> 
> From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/04/14 Thu AM 04:45:11 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO -- Natural World III
> 
> Yea, yea, I'm milking this but just one more.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature3.html

Subtle - and redolent of Jostein's picture of ethereally floating lily pads.  
Nice one.

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Re: PESO Natural World II

2005-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Of the three, I like two the best.  It has a rather amusing aspect to
me - two turtles staring at each other sunning on an old tire.

Nice catch.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 9:42:20 PM, you wrote:

PJA> Another turtle shot.  Same location.

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html

PJA> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...

PJA> Technical:
PJA> Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
PJA> smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.




PESO -- Natural World III

2005-04-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yea, yea, I'm milking this but just one more.
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature3.html
Technical:
Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/90sec.
smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f8.0
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




PESO Natural World II

2005-04-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Another turtle shot.  Same location.
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature2.html
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored...
Technical:
Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




RE: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread Tom C
Hi Peter,
Well this is a comment you'll probably ignore.  If the photo is intended to 
be an environmental statement, then I can understand it in that context.  I 
suspect that is what you intended.

Other than that, I also suspect you and I wouldn't hang it on our 
study/den/library walls...

We typically try to crop the soda bottles out, yes? :)
Tom C.

From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO:  Natural World
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:23:59 -0400
Took the dog out for a walk, brought the camera, the turtles are out it 
must be spring...
Cropped about 30%.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature.html
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
Tech. Info.
Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to 
drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two 
things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke





Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well I've gotten enough comments about this being over exposed so I 
decided to give it a little rework.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature1a.html
Just a few minor adjustments to brightness, and a bit more contrast.
frank theriault wrote:
On 4/13/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Took the dog out for a walk, brought the camera, the turtles are out it
must be spring...
Cropped about 30%.
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature.html
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
   

Like it.
It could be a poster or ad for an environmental group like Greenpeace
or something.
Poor little turkles (as my sister used to call them, like, 40 years
ago - she'd kill me if she knew I said that ).  Surviving amid all
that crap and garbage.
Mind you, those "poor little turkles" will likely be here after the
nuclear winter, after 50% of the present land-mass is submerged
beneath the melting ice-caps, after the sun goes nova and burns off
all the water on our surface, they'll be plodding along...
Anyway, nice photo.  Focus, composition, all that photo stuff, it's
all there.  It seems maybe just a teensy bit overexposed?  Or is that
just me?
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread frank theriault
On 4/13/05, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep. It'll be Cockroaches, rats, turkles & Frank. 

Sounds like the inhabitants of the last high-rise apartment I lived in.

Except no turtles.  The balcony was infested with pigeons, however.  I
think they'll be there in the nuclear freeze.  Oh yeah, Canada Geese. 
They'll be there, too...



cheers,
frank



-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread David Savage
Yep. It'll be Cockroaches, rats, turkles & Frank. 

BTW Peter nice shot, with a not so subtle message. Seems a tad
overexposed though .

Dave S

On 4/14/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank,
> 
> You'll still likely be here after the nuclear winter, after 50% of the
> present land-mass is submerged
> beneath the melting ice-caps, after the sun goes nova and burns off all the
> water on our surface, you'll be plodding along...
> 
> Your friend,
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> >From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >Subject: Re: PESO: Natural World
> >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:32:02 -0400
> >
> >On 4/13/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Took the dog out for a walk, brought the camera, the turtles are out it
> > > must be spring...
> > > Cropped about 30%.
> > >
> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature.html
> > >
> > > As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> > >
> >
> >Like it.
> >
> >It could be a poster or ad for an environmental group like Greenpeace
> >or something.
> >
> >Poor little turkles (as my sister used to call them, like, 40 years
> >ago - she'd kill me if she knew I said that ).  Surviving amid all
> >that crap and garbage.
> >
> >Mind you, those "poor little turkles" will likely be here after the
> >nuclear winter, after 50% of the present land-mass is submerged
> >beneath the melting ice-caps, after the sun goes nova and burns off
> >all the water on our surface, they'll be plodding along...
> >
> >Anyway, nice photo.  Focus, composition, all that photo stuff, it's
> >all there.  It seems maybe just a teensy bit overexposed?  Or is that
> >just me?
> >
> >cheers,
> >frank
> >
> >
> >--
> >"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> >
> 
>



Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread Tom C
Frank,
You'll still likely be here after the nuclear winter, after 50% of the 
present land-mass is submerged
beneath the melting ice-caps, after the sun goes nova and burns off all the 
water on our surface, you'll be plodding along...

Your friend,
Tom C.

From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Natural World
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:32:02 -0400
On 4/13/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Took the dog out for a walk, brought the camera, the turtles are out it
> must be spring...
> Cropped about 30%.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature.html
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
Like it.
It could be a poster or ad for an environmental group like Greenpeace
or something.
Poor little turkles (as my sister used to call them, like, 40 years
ago - she'd kill me if she knew I said that ).  Surviving amid all
that crap and garbage.
Mind you, those "poor little turkles" will likely be here after the
nuclear winter, after 50% of the present land-mass is submerged
beneath the melting ice-caps, after the sun goes nova and burns off
all the water on our surface, they'll be plodding along...
Anyway, nice photo.  Focus, composition, all that photo stuff, it's
all there.  It seems maybe just a teensy bit overexposed?  Or is that
just me?
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread frank theriault
On 4/13/05, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Took the dog out for a walk, brought the camera, the turtles are out it
> must be spring...
> Cropped about 30%.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature.html
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> 

Like it.

It could be a poster or ad for an environmental group like Greenpeace
or something.

Poor little turkles (as my sister used to call them, like, 40 years
ago - she'd kill me if she knew I said that ).  Surviving amid all
that crap and garbage.

Mind you, those "poor little turkles" will likely be here after the
nuclear winter, after 50% of the present land-mass is submerged
beneath the melting ice-caps, after the sun goes nova and burns off
all the water on our surface, they'll be plodding along...

Anyway, nice photo.  Focus, composition, all that photo stuff, it's
all there.  It seems maybe just a teensy bit overexposed?  Or is that
just me?

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



PESO: Natural World

2005-04-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Took the dog out for a walk, brought the camera, the turtles are out it 
must be spring...
Cropped about 30%.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nature.html
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
Tech. Info.
Pentax *ist-D/ iso 200/shutter speed 1/350sec.
smc-PENTAX-F 70-210mm/210mm/f6.7.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke