Re: PESO - Sample 3
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, David J Brooks wrote: > Wonder how the Sigma 500DG super will perform. There were two reports in dpreview that the Sigma did not work. But none of them were re-chipped version (one was bought this summer). I still feel that Pentax flash is a safer bet, especially for compatibility of future models (e.g. K1D). FYI, the AF 540FGZ is actually made in Japan, a rarity nowadays; and the quality shows (the 360FGZ is made in Philippines). -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
What were the in camera @ default? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - Sample 3 > On the first shots I showed from the walk, I did use a bit of curves. > On the last two, I did not do anything but straight convert to jpg. > > The first three shots while walking were center weighted. The girl > with the helmet was multi-segment and the boy was center weighted. > > My normal settings are manual focus, manual exposure (using > HyperManual), Center weighted metering. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:49:26 PM, you wrote: > > PS> By the way, are you tweaking the exposures? Are you using any > PS> exposure comp? Matrix metering? > PS> Paul > PS> On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > >>> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out how my >>> big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and >>> let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the >>> *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I >>> can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable >>> problems. >>> >>> Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on >>> Continuous AF - auto sensor mode >>> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 >>> >>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for >>> daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the >>> *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is just >>> a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been >>> better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed by the >>> body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed (shutter >>> sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash setting - >>> less to think about. >>> >>> Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld >>> ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus >>> AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation >>> >>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
Hi Bruce, That makes sense. Yes, I always set the flash to high speed. And as with your Pentax flash, the camera won't go above 1/150th (on the D) without the flash set at high speed synch. I usually shoot at manual exposure with a 1/500th or 1/750th shutter speed. But I've never changed the flash setting on the camera. That's what confused me about your original post. I never tried setting the camera mode, so it was apparent early on that it didn't matter. I mainly use high speed for shooting birds and wildlife, once in a while for fill in bright light. Paul On Nov 21, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Hello Paul, > > The setting is on the camera by pressing the flash button. It cycles > between normal, redeye reduction, wireless and wireless/HS. > > Are you sure you are using HS? The shutter speed needs to be higher > than 1/180 sec and the Pentax flash needs to be set to the appropriate > mode. Once it is set, even if you are shooting at slower speeds, it > still works. So a near dark shot, would not probably need HS. > > With the *istD & AF360FGZ, if I set the flash to normal, the camera > body will not allow a shutter speed above 1/180. If I set the flash > to HS, then I can choose any shutter speed. I just tried a shot > without setting anything on the body at 1/1000 sec and it worked > properly. So all this time, I probably didn't need to set the body > along with the flash. Oh well, the other way seemed to work. > > It takes getting a new camera to learn the proper way sometimes. > Thanks for your comments. > > -- > Bruce > > > Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:58:16 PM, you wrote: > > PS> I use high speed shutter synch on my *istD all the time without > PS> setting anything on the camera. I'm using a Sigma 500 super, > not the > PS> Pentax flash. Perhaps the high speed function is already > turned on, > PS> but I don't remember ever seeing it on a menu. I know it works, > PS> because I've shot hundreds of photos with high speed synch, > some in > PS> near darkness. > PS> Paul > PS> On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > >>> Very nice image! After reading the second part of your post, I went >>> back and took another look to see why I hadn't noticed "a little >>> strong >>> flash". I certainly can't see it. My monitor must be getting dim. >>> Actually, from a technical standpoint, the face could use a bit more >>> light and I see no evidence of a hot image anywhere. >>> Considerate of you to share these results. >>> >>> Jack >>> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out how my big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable problems. Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on Continuous AF - auto sensor mode ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is just a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed by the body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed (shutter sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash setting - less to think about. Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> __ >>> Sponsored Link >>> >>> $420k for $1,399/mo. >>> Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? >>> Find Out! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
On the first shots I showed from the walk, I did use a bit of curves. On the last two, I did not do anything but straight convert to jpg. The first three shots while walking were center weighted. The girl with the helmet was multi-segment and the boy was center weighted. My normal settings are manual focus, manual exposure (using HyperManual), Center weighted metering. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:49:26 PM, you wrote: PS> By the way, are you tweaking the exposures? Are you using any PS> exposure comp? Matrix metering? PS> Paul PS> On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: >> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out how my >> big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and >> let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the >> *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I >> can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable >> problems. >> >> Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on >> Continuous AF - auto sensor mode >> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm >> >> >> >> This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for >> daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the >> *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is just >> a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been >> better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed by the >> body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed (shutter >> sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash setting - >> less to think about. >> >> Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld >> ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus >> AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
Hello Paul, The setting is on the camera by pressing the flash button. It cycles between normal, redeye reduction, wireless and wireless/HS. Are you sure you are using HS? The shutter speed needs to be higher than 1/180 sec and the Pentax flash needs to be set to the appropriate mode. Once it is set, even if you are shooting at slower speeds, it still works. So a near dark shot, would not probably need HS. With the *istD & AF360FGZ, if I set the flash to normal, the camera body will not allow a shutter speed above 1/180. If I set the flash to HS, then I can choose any shutter speed. I just tried a shot without setting anything on the body at 1/1000 sec and it worked properly. So all this time, I probably didn't need to set the body along with the flash. Oh well, the other way seemed to work. It takes getting a new camera to learn the proper way sometimes. Thanks for your comments. -- Bruce Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:58:16 PM, you wrote: PS> I use high speed shutter synch on my *istD all the time without PS> setting anything on the camera. I'm using a Sigma 500 super, not the PS> Pentax flash. Perhaps the high speed function is already turned on, PS> but I don't remember ever seeing it on a menu. I know it works, PS> because I've shot hundreds of photos with high speed synch, some in PS> near darkness. PS> Paul PS> On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> Very nice image! After reading the second part of your post, I went >> back and took another look to see why I hadn't noticed "a little >> strong >> flash". I certainly can't see it. My monitor must be getting dim. >> Actually, from a technical standpoint, the face could use a bit more >> light and I see no evidence of a hot image anywhere. >> Considerate of you to share these results. >> >> Jack >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out how >>> my >>> big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and >>> let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the >>> *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I >>> can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable >>> problems. >>> >>> Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on >>> Continuous AF - auto sensor mode >>> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 >>> >>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for >>> daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the >>> *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is >>> just >>> a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been >>> better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed by >>> the >>> body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed (shutter >>> sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash setting - >>> less to think about. >>> >>> Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld >>> ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus >>> AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation >>> >>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> __ >> Sponsored Link >> >> $420k for $1,399/mo. >> Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? >> Find Out! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
Under normal circumstances, I manually focus when I can and then switch to specific sensor when I need to. Only in a few cases do I let the camera pick the sensor, but I wanted to see how well the new one worked. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:48:16 PM, you wrote: PS> I like the picture of the boy. Nice shot. On the pic of the girl in PS> the helmet, it may have focused on the helmet, which is PS> understandable. For this type of pic, I always select my own point or PS> use manual focus, as I'm sure you do under normal circumstances. PS> Paul PS> On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: >> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out how my >> big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and >> let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the >> *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I >> can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable >> problems. >> >> Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on >> Continuous AF - auto sensor mode >> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm >> >> >> >> This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for >> daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the >> *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is just >> a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been >> better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed by the >> body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed (shutter >> sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash setting - >> less to think about. >> >> Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld >> ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus >> AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
Knowing the quality of your work, that's what I guessed. It seems to be the best way to operate in most cases, particularly with portraits where you want to nail those eyes. Paul On Nov 21, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Under normal circumstances, I manually focus when I can and then > switch to specific sensor when I need to. Only in a few cases do I > let the camera pick the sensor, but I wanted to see how well the new > one worked. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:48:16 PM, you wrote: > > PS> I like the picture of the boy. Nice shot. On the pic of the > girl in > PS> the helmet, it may have focused on the helmet, which is > PS> understandable. For this type of pic, I always select my own > point or > PS> use manual focus, as I'm sure you do under normal circumstances. > PS> Paul > PS> On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > >>> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out >>> how my >>> big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and >>> let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the >>> *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I >>> can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable >>> problems. >>> >>> Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on >>> Continuous AF - auto sensor mode >>> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 >>> >>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for >>> daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the >>> *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is >>> just >>> a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been >>> better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed >>> by the >>> body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed >>> (shutter >>> sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash >>> setting - >>> less to think about. >>> >>> Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld >>> ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus >>> AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation >>> >>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Sample 3
I'll know by the end of the weekend. I sent my 500 DG Super to Sigma about a month ago for the upgrade that allows it to work with the 100D. I'm sure it's essential for this camera as well. I plan on trying it this weekend. Paul On Nov 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > Wonder how the Sigma 500DG super will perform. > > Dave > > Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Couple more images. The first one I thought I better check out >> how my >> big zoom works with the K10D. I put the camera on continous AF and >> let the camera pick the AF point. It seemed a bit better than the >> *istD, but I'll need to do more tests to be sure of performance. I >> can say the lens seemed to work fine with the body - no noticeable >> problems. >> >> Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld SR on >> Continuous AF - auto sensor mode >> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/4 >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3990.htm >> >> >> >> This test was to see how the AF360FGZ works with the camera for >> daylight fill. This is something that I do quite a bit with the >> *istD, so wanted to see how it worked. In this shot, the fill is >> just >> a little strong - probably another half stop under would have been >> better. Setting the body for the flash mode is now auto-sensed by >> the >> body. On the *istD, you had to tell the body to use HiSpeed (shutter >> sync) as well as the flash. The K10D just senses the flash setting - >> less to think about. >> >> Pentax K10D, FA 50/1.4, Handheld >> ISO 400 , 1/125 sec @ f/8, manual focus >> AF360FGZ flash, -1.5 fill compensation >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4027.htm >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > > Equine Photography in York Region > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
