RE: PESO unusual raspberry

2007-11-10 Thread Bob W
They are interesting, and it's a good project to pursue, but to me the
pictures are compositionally unsatisfying. As they loaded I was
expecting to see the whole raspberry and it took a while for me to
realise that that was all I was going to get. They feel unresolved to
me.

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 Sent: 10 November 2007 04:44
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 Subject: PESO unusual raspberry
 
 
 I took some pictures of raspberries.
 (I actually spent several hours trying different light and lense
 combinations.)
 Well, these three pictures do not show just the raspberry, 
 but the extra
 creatures growing on it as well.
 I was playing with the new D-FA 100/2.8 lens:
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg
 and then the same lens in combination with the 1.7x.
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg
 
 The idea of using a TC for Macro imaging was picked from somebody's
 recent post here.
 I like it!
 
 I also tried to use a monstrous combination of
 100/2.8 - SMC 2x - SMC 1.7x, but I didn't get any that I like.
 Also, I believe DOF was becoming too shallow, and when I tried to
 close down the aperture, I may have seen some diffraction showing up
 (although I am too lazy to estimate if I should see any noticeable
 diffraction at those values).
 If you are really interested to see some of those, take a look here:
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/100-2_0x-1_7x/
 
 
 Disclaimer: No raspberries were harmed or eaten during the 
 photo session.
 
 Igor
 
 
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RE: PESO unusual raspberry

2007-11-10 Thread Bob W
Just to add to this, I think the reason they feel unresolved is that
the colour of the drupe is so much stronger and weightier than the
colours of the fluffy bits that the eye is pulled away from the main
subject and this leads me to expect an entire plump little raspberry.
I think there are 2 things you could try to improve this. First is to
get even closer and right into the fluffy bits, eliminating all but a
tiny part of the succulent drupelets. The other is to show the whole
fruit, but to position the top part in such a way that it dominates
the composition. This is probably more difficult than the first
because of the extra problem introduced by the strong colour.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 10 November 2007 09:01
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: PESO unusual raspberry
 
 They are interesting, and it's a good project to pursue, but 
 to me the pictures are compositionally unsatisfying. As they 
 loaded I was expecting to see the whole raspberry and it took 
 a while for me to realise that that was all I was going to 
 get. They feel unresolved to me.
 
 --
  Bob
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Igor Roshchin
  Sent: 10 November 2007 04:44
  To: PDML@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO unusual raspberry
  
  
  I took some pictures of raspberries.
  (I actually spent several hours trying different light and lense
  combinations.)
  Well, these three pictures do not show just the raspberry, 
  but the extra
  creatures growing on it as well.
  I was playing with the new D-FA 100/2.8 lens:
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg
  and then the same lens in combination with the 1.7x.
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg
  
  The idea of using a TC for Macro imaging was picked from
somebody's
  recent post here.
  I like it!
  
  I also tried to use a monstrous combination of
  100/2.8 - SMC 2x - SMC 1.7x, but I didn't get any that I like.
  Also, I believe DOF was becoming too shallow, and when I tried to
  close down the aperture, I may have seen some diffraction showing
up
  (although I am too lazy to estimate if I should see any noticeable
  diffraction at those values).
  If you are really interested to see some of those, take a look
here:
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/100-2_0x-1_7x/
  
  
  Disclaimer: No raspberries were harmed or eaten during the 
  photo session.
  
  Igor
  
  
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Re: PESO unusual raspberry

2007-11-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting. I prefer the first. Too much magnification in the other  
two.
Paul
On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 I took some pictures of raspberries.
 (I actually spent several hours trying different light and lense
 combinations.)
 Well, these three pictures do not show just the raspberry, but the  
 extra
 creatures growing on it as well.
 I was playing with the new D-FA 100/2.8 lens:
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg
 and then the same lens in combination with the 1.7x.
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg

 The idea of using a TC for Macro imaging was picked from somebody's
 recent post here.
 I like it!

 I also tried to use a monstrous combination of
 100/2.8 - SMC 2x - SMC 1.7x, but I didn't get any that I like.
 Also, I believe DOF was becoming too shallow, and when I tried to
 close down the aperture, I may have seen some diffraction showing up
 (although I am too lazy to estimate if I should see any noticeable
 diffraction at those values).
 If you are really interested to see some of those, take a look here:
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/100-2_0x-1_7x/


 Disclaimer: No raspberries were harmed or eaten during the photo  
 session.

 Igor


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Re: PESO unusual raspberry

2007-11-10 Thread Rebekah
I like the first and second ones especially, the cut off really adds
interest for me as opposed to leaving it feeling unresolved like Bob
said - maybe the effect of it loading bit by bit down the screen
changed the way it was viewed, and I liked them more when I let it
load for a moment and came back to them.  That would be an interesting
topic to pursue here - does the partial loading of a photo change the
way people view a photograph online?  Anyways, I like the photos and
the idea you have going here :)

rg2

On 11/10/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting. I prefer the first. Too much magnification in the other
 two.
 Paul
 On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
  I took some pictures of raspberries.
  (I actually spent several hours trying different light and lense
  combinations.)
  Well, these three pictures do not show just the raspberry, but the
  extra
  creatures growing on it as well.
  I was playing with the new D-FA 100/2.8 lens:
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg
  and then the same lens in combination with the 1.7x.
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg
 
  The idea of using a TC for Macro imaging was picked from somebody's
  recent post here.
  I like it!
 
  I also tried to use a monstrous combination of
  100/2.8 - SMC 2x - SMC 1.7x, but I didn't get any that I like.
  Also, I believe DOF was becoming too shallow, and when I tried to
  close down the aperture, I may have seen some diffraction showing up
  (although I am too lazy to estimate if I should see any noticeable
  diffraction at those values).
  If you are really interested to see some of those, take a look here:
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/100-2_0x-1_7x/
 
 
  Disclaimer: No raspberries were harmed or eaten during the photo
  session.
 
  Igor
 
 
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PESO unusual raspberry

2007-11-09 Thread Igor Roshchin

I took some pictures of raspberries.
(I actually spent several hours trying different light and lense
combinations.)
Well, these three pictures do not show just the raspberry, but the extra
creatures growing on it as well.
I was playing with the new D-FA 100/2.8 lens:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg
and then the same lens in combination with the 1.7x.
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg

The idea of using a TC for Macro imaging was picked from somebody's
recent post here.
I like it!

I also tried to use a monstrous combination of
100/2.8 - SMC 2x - SMC 1.7x, but I didn't get any that I like.
Also, I believe DOF was becoming too shallow, and when I tried to
close down the aperture, I may have seen some diffraction showing up
(although I am too lazy to estimate if I should see any noticeable
diffraction at those values).
If you are really interested to see some of those, take a look here:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/100-2_0x-1_7x/


Disclaimer: No raspberries were harmed or eaten during the photo session.

Igor


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