Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
BW is so much better (thinking of Blue Note covers). I love the angularity of the ceiling and the guitarist. On 4/10/2012 4:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I have problems with stage photos bathed in deep coloured spots, so due to that personal bias I don't feel qualified to comment on that first photo. That is certainly not my favorite lighting either, which is why I converted so many of the photos to black and white. I thought that this was one where it worked, but your comment got me to thinking so I converted it to BW also: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8052874461/in/set-72157631685232499/ I hope you like it a bit better. The photo of Pops, on the other hand, is a magnificent portrait. Nice conversion, too. Thanks a bunch. It's a bit softer than I would have liked, but I think it shows what a sweet man Pops is. Two thumbs up! Thank you. Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I have problems with stage photos bathed in deep coloured spots, so due to that personal bias I don't feel qualified to comment on that first photo. That is certainly not my favorite lighting either, which is why I converted so many of the photos to black and white. I thought that this was one where it worked, but your comment got me to thinking so I converted it to BW also: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8052874461/in/set-72157631685232499/ I hope you like it a bit better. The photo of Pops, on the other hand, is a magnificent portrait. Nice conversion, too. Thanks a bunch. It's a bit softer than I would have liked, but I think it shows what a sweet man Pops is. Two thumbs up! Thank you. Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I have problems with stage photos bathed in deep coloured spots, so due to that personal bias I don't feel qualified to comment on that first photo. That is certainly not my favorite lighting either, which is why I converted so many of the photos to black and white. I thought that this was one where it worked, but your comment got me to thinking so I converted it to BW also: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8052874461/in/set-72157631685232499/ I hope you like it a bit better. That's a great shot, Larry. I like the photo of Pops too, but I can't help wishing it was a little less tight. Speaking as one who often frames portraits really tight. :-) Ah, Commander Cody. Great stuff! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
That works very well for me in black and white. It now becomes a tremendous performance photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: October 4, 2012 10/4/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I have problems with stage photos bathed in deep coloured spots, so due to that personal bias I don't feel qualified to comment on that first photo. That is certainly not my favorite lighting either, which is why I converted so many of the photos to black and white. I thought that this was one where it worked, but your comment got me to thinking so I converted it to BW also: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8052874461/in/set-72157631685232499/ I hope you like it a bit better. The photo of Pops, on the other hand, is a magnificent portrait. Nice conversion, too. Thanks a bunch. It's a bit softer than I would have liked, but I think it shows what a sweet man Pops is. Two thumbs up! Thank you. Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:56 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That works very well for me in black and white. It now becomes a tremendous performance photo. Thanks. I think it works better in black and white too. Thanks for the idea. It worked well enough in color that I originally went with that. I've been criticized before for my tendency to undo the stage lighting in a lot of my photos. Mostly it seems that the stage lighting is just done to bugger up anybody trying to video a performance, because having all the light at the red end of the spectrum bolloxes up the automatic metering, without actually doing anything to make things look better or more interesting. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: October 4, 2012 10/4/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I have problems with stage photos bathed in deep coloured spots, so due to that personal bias I don't feel qualified to comment on that first photo. That is certainly not my favorite lighting either, which is why I converted so many of the photos to black and white. I thought that this was one where it worked, but your comment got me to thinking so I converted it to BW also: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8052874461/in/set-72157631685232499/ I hope you like it a bit better. The photo of Pops, on the other hand, is a magnificent portrait. Nice conversion, too. Thanks a bunch. It's a bit softer than I would have liked, but I think it shows what a sweet man Pops is. Two thumbs up! Thank you. Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
After photographing a corporate event yesterday up in SF, I went to a weekly swing dance where one of the local bands plays. Stompy Jones plays jump swing and have been around for over 15 years. They had Cleveland come up and sing a couple of songs with them. In this shot, he's letting Hank have his guitar solo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8051402389/ For me, the high point of the evening was when Pops (Peter Walsh, formerly with Commander Cody), who was their original vocalist came up and sang a couple of songs with them. A few years back, Pops became very sick with something that I don't know if they ever diagnosed, and we were wondering if he was even going to make it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8051392121/ All of this set were shot with the Tokina 80-200/2.8. Mostly at f/4. The stage lighting was rather challenging, not enough variation in the color to get really good vibrant colors, but a bit too saturated to correct it quite back to normal. Photographing musicians, bobbing around to fast music is very challenging with a manual focus telephoto. I don't know how, even in manual focus, I get so many photos perfectly focused on the microphone, rather than the musician behind it. I couldn't help but wonder what my keeper ratio would be like with a K5II and a 60-250. Or for that matter high end Canikon gear. I'm coming to the conclusion that the difference that better gear makes isn't how good of shots you get, but how many shots you lose. For them that want to check out the whole set, I think I got a few other keepers too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631685232499/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops
I have problems with stage photos bathed in deep coloured spots, so due to that personal bias I don't feel qualified to comment on that first photo. The photo of Pops, on the other hand, is a magnificent portrait. Nice conversion, too. Two thumbs up! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: October 3, 2012 10/3/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESOs Hank and Cleveland, also Pops After photographing a corporate event yesterday up in SF, I went to a weekly swing dance where one of the local bands plays. Stompy Jones plays jump swing and have been around for over 15 years. They had Cleveland come up and sing a couple of songs with them. In this shot, he's letting Hank have his guitar solo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8051402389/ For me, the high point of the evening was when Pops (Peter Walsh, formerly with Commander Cody), who was their original vocalist came up and sang a couple of songs with them. A few years back, Pops became very sick with something that I don't know if they ever diagnosed, and we were wondering if he was even going to make it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8051392121/ All of this set were shot with the Tokina 80-200/2.8. Mostly at f/4. The stage lighting was rather challenging, not enough variation in the color to get really good vibrant colors, but a bit too saturated to correct it quite back to normal. Photographing musicians, bobbing around to fast music is very challenging with a manual focus telephoto. I don't know how, even in manual focus, I get so many photos perfectly focused on the microphone, rather than the musician behind it. I couldn't help but wonder what my keeper ratio would be like with a K5II and a 60-250. Or for that matter high end Canikon gear. I'm coming to the conclusion that the difference that better gear makes isn't how good of shots you get, but how many shots you lose. For them that want to check out the whole set, I think I got a few other keepers too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631685232499/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
