Re: Problem with gmail.
I POP (always have) and have no problem with Thunderbird - but then, I don't use gmail. seldom have a problem and i"m on road runner ann On 5/8/2018 12:40 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Don't know, I was about to begin installing Eudora, when Thunderbird began to download mail through the pop server. On 5/5/2018 5:41 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: does using another email client other than thunderbird work? jco On Sat, 05 May 2018 05:11:52 -0400, Dale H. Cook wrote: At 03:36 AM 5/5/2018, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. Does Thunderbird have an error log that you can check? I just tried a test send to all three of my Gmail addresses (I have more than two dozen email addresses through four servers - don't ask why unless you want to hear another boring story) and Eudora is throwing a "connection timed out" error from the POP server for all three. I am investigating. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
At 12:24 AM 5/8/2018, P. J. Alling wrote: >And now it appears to have stopped again. It still works fine for me in Eudora. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
Restarted Thunderbird and everything seems to be copacetic. I guess I'll see if it's still working properly tomorrow. On 5/8/2018 12:24 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: And now it appears to have stopped again. No clue why. On 5/7/2018 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: And suddenly connecting to the pop server at google works again. On 5/5/2018 3:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone else having this problem? -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
Don't know, I was about to begin installing Eudora, when Thunderbird began to download mail through the pop server. On 5/5/2018 5:41 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: does using another email client other than thunderbird work? jco On Sat, 05 May 2018 05:11:52 -0400, Dale H. Cook wrote: At 03:36 AM 5/5/2018, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. Does Thunderbird have an error log that you can check? I just tried a test send to all three of my Gmail addresses (I have more than two dozen email addresses through four servers - don't ask why unless you want to hear another boring story) and Eudora is throwing a "connection timed out" error from the POP server for all three. I am investigating. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
Like you've never produced a typo. I'm using pop because I want to. Well I'm using it because it downloads mail in batches. On 5/5/2018 2:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On May 5, 2018, at 12:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone else having this problem? Why are you using POP rather than IMAP? SMTP is Simple Mail Transfer Protocol not smpt -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
And now it appears to have stopped again. No clue why. On 5/7/2018 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: And suddenly connecting to the pop server at google works again. On 5/5/2018 3:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone else having this problem? -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
And suddenly connecting to the pop server at google works again. On 5/5/2018 3:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone else having this problem? -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
A good question. I remember having problems with pop which disappeared after changing to imap on my mail accounts. Henk Op 2018-05-05 om 20:35 schreef Larry Colen: On May 5, 2018, at 12:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone else having this problem? Why are you using POP rather than IMAP? SMTP is Simple Mail Transfer Protocol not smpt -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
At 01:30 PM 5/5/2018, P. J. Alling wrote: >Which port are you using. I'm using the suggested port of 995. I am as well. >What version of Eudora are you using? 7.0.1.0. >What platform? Win 7 Pro 64-bit. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
> On May 5, 2018, at 12:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my > messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them > using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone > else having this problem? Why are you using POP rather than IMAP? SMTP is Simple Mail Transfer Protocol not smpt > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. >- P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
Dale, I already have my gmail accounts set to allow less secure apps to connect. Which port are you using. I'm using the suggested port of 995. Still getting "failed to connect to server pop.gmail.com" when attempting to download messages. I haven't used Eudora in years but since you seem to have it working I think I'll give it a whirl. Funny thing is I'm not getting any messages about blocked attempts. It just fails to connect. Strangely everything was working as expected until May 3, when the last message downloaded was received at 12:02 AM. Maybe years of working in IT have made me paranoid, but that seems like just the date and time for a software feature to be disabled. Usually some notification is given to users but this is Google we're dealing with here. It would surely help if Thunderbird had a logging feature that could be easily enabled, but if it does it's well hidden. The previous instructions on connecting to the the gmail pop server seem to have disappeared from the Thunderbird help pages. both at Mozilla and Google. Only imap instructions are currently available for Thunderbird. There are only generic instructions for using the pop server, though the settings are those I'm already using. Now the unfortunate thing... Mozilla is the sole support, such as it is, for Eudora, to use it I have to uninstall Thunderbird. What version of Eudora are you using? What platform? If it's not Windows even that might not solve my problem. On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > Okay, here's the deal. Even though my POP3 settings for all three Gmail > accounts are using SSL with the alternate port I still had to sign into > Gmail for each account, open the message with the subject "Review blocked > sign-in attempt" and choose to allow access to less secure apps. I am now > getting POP3 email from all three accounts. > > I am not worried that Google does not think that those accounts are secure > - I never use them for anything sensitive anyway, just as I never use > either of my Yahoo addresses for anything sensitive. My Gmail and Yahoo > addresses are, for me, the email equivalent of burner phones. > > Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, > Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using > colored filters for B&W gravestone photography > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
Okay, here's the deal. Even though my POP3 settings for all three Gmail accounts are using SSL with the alternate port I still had to sign into Gmail for each account, open the message with the subject "Review blocked sign-in attempt" and choose to allow access to less secure apps. I am now getting POP3 email from all three accounts. I am not worried that Google does not think that those accounts are secure - I never use them for anything sensitive anyway, just as I never use either of my Yahoo addresses for anything sensitive. My Gmail and Yahoo addresses are, for me, the email equivalent of burner phones. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
does using another email client other than thunderbird work? jco On Sat, 05 May 2018 05:11:52 -0400, Dale H. Cook wrote: At 03:36 AM 5/5/2018, P. J. Alling wrote: This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. Does Thunderbird have an error log that you can check? I just tried a test send to all three of my Gmail addresses (I have more than two dozen email addresses through four servers - don't ask why unless you want to hear another boring story) and Eudora is throwing a "connection timed out" error from the POP server for all three. I am investigating. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
At 03:36 AM 5/5/2018, P. J. Alling wrote: >This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my >messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. Does Thunderbird have an error log that you can check? I just tried a test send to all three of my Gmail addresses (I have more than two dozen email addresses through four servers - don't ask why unless you want to hear another boring story) and Eudora is throwing a "connection timed out" error from the POP server for all three. I am investigating. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using colored filters for B&W gravestone photography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problem with gmail.
Having this for prolly half a year... I had reconfigured tbird, but now i have to manually drag and drop mail items, so i got lazy. On Sat, May 5, 2018, 10:38 P. J. Alling wrote: > This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my > messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send > them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web > page. Anyone else having this problem? > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Problem with gmail.
This is decidedly strange. I'm suddenly no longer able to retrieve my messages from the gmail pop server using Thunderbird. I can still send them using the smpt server, but I have to read them on the gmail web page. Anyone else having this problem? -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
