Re: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-31 Thread Flavio Minelli

Doug Franklin wrote:
 ...
 
 I also have a Tokina SD 400/5.6 (about US$175 on ebay about a year ago)
 which is PK-A (auto exposure capable) but I haven't tested it out.  I
 need to order the tripod collar for it from THK.  If I can get the
 collar by the beginning of October, I plan to try it out at the Petit
 le Mans at Road Atlanta this year, head to head with the SMC 400/5.6.
 ...

I have that one. Didn't use it a lot, actually, but tested it on an
air-show last year and even managed to sell some windsurfers' photos out
of it. Not too bad but nothing fancy either.

You'll probably be disappointed with the collar, it's a rather flimsy
and wobbly one. Not really useful but better than none.

A good thing for the use you're planning it for is the trap focus
ability with the Z1-p.

Ciao, Flavio


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Re: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Bucky

I bought a Tokina 28-80 f/2.8 ATX Pro and its 80-200 counterpart via BH.
The 80-200 had problems with its AF on my PZ1ps.  I sent it back to the US
distributor, who couldn't get it to fail on any other AF camera body, but
needed to bring in a Z1p to test it on.  I needed the lens back for  a job
before they could get the body, so they just replaced it on faith.

I don't think the comparable Pentax options are reasonably priced next to
the Tokinas, which offer excellent optical performance.  I also could have
gone with Sigma, and they seemed quite plentiful in town, but I didn't think
their build quality would take hard use.  I am satisfied both with the
lenses and the service department of the US distributor.

DO NOT under any circumstances buy Tokina from the Canadian distributor,
whose name I forget.  They are terminally disorganized and were unable to
provide the lenses, even two months after I paid a $500 deposit with a local
dealer!

Cheers,

Mike

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Subject: Question re Tokina KEH



 I was wondering if I could benefit but again from the lists experience?

 I recently visited a local camera shop in Vancouver, BC because I'm trying
 to decide between a new Sigma/Pentax/Tokina lens in the 24-70/80 range (at
 least 2.8). Anyway, the guy told me they have experienced service problems
 with Tokina. Barring all other considerations (and there are many), has
 anyone had service problems with Tokina? After visiting this particular
 shop, I stopped by Kerrisdale Camera who indicated the opposite.

 Second queston: a number of you have made reference to using KEH. Are they
a
 good outfit? (e.g. are their ratings of used gear accurate? How are they
 with returns?)

 Thanks

 Karen



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Re: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Jim Moniz

I will vouch for what the others say, having once bought an SLR from KEH,
they were fair and honest in their dealings with me.  (I lived in Atlanta at
the time, and was able to go directly to their warehouse for the purchase.)
Probably spendy to ship out of country, though.
Jim
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Subject: Question re Tokina KEH



 I was wondering if I could benefit but again from the lists experience?

 I recently visited a local camera shop in Vancouver, BC because I'm trying
 to decide between a new Sigma/Pentax/Tokina lens in the 24-70/80 range (at
 least 2.8). Anyway, the guy told me they have experienced service problems
 with Tokina. Barring all other considerations (and there are many), has
 anyone had service problems with Tokina? After visiting this particular
 shop, I stopped by Kerrisdale Camera who indicated the opposite.

 Second queston: a number of you have made reference to using KEH. Are they
a
 good outfit? (e.g. are their ratings of used gear accurate? How are they
 with returns?)

 Thanks

 Karen



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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread admin

I've usually had good experiences with KEH (though they *are* expensive)
and their ratings in general are quite conservative, if entirely lacking
in detail. To get details on the condition of the equipment you want to
buy you can phone up and ask them. Then it depends on which salesdroid answers
the phone. 

When I called about an A50/1.4 in bargain condition a couple of years
ago I got an obvious enthusiast who told me I've been thinking of buying
that one for myself! and generally enthused about it. She told be it was
really almost mint except for a slightly dented filter ring which still
accepted filters without any problem. I bought it and it turned out to be
a great deal (just as it was described: the filter ring looked rough in
one spot but filters went on and off readily).

A few weeks ago I called about an FA*80-200/2.8 in bargain condition.
The guy who answered the phone offered to email me some photos of it and
did so (although a day later than he'd promised). I bought it and discovered
that it had a dented filter ring that *did* prevent filters from being mounted
at all. That defect wasn't visible in the photos at all and I can't believe
he missed it when he examined the lens. He just didn't want to lose the
commission on a fairly big sale and gambled that I wouldn't get pissed off
and return it. Well, he was right, but I'm going to ask a lot more questions
in the future. (I was able to straighten out the filter ring enough that
it now works, with some difficulty; I've just bought a junk 77mm filter
on eBay and I'm going to knock the glass out of it and screw it on as a
semi-permanent thread extender.)

If you want to buy from KEH, phone them up and ask questions. They have
a 14 day return policy.


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Mark Roberts
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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Paris, Leonard

For a few bucks, you can buy a lens vise from Fargo and use it to fix dented
filter rings.  I have one at home. It works well.  Some camera stores have
one on hand and will fix the filter ring for a nominal fee, or even free, if
you are a known customer.  Ask around.

Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question re Tokina KEH


I've usually had good experiences with KEH (though they *are* expensive)
and their ratings in general are quite conservative, if entirely lacking
in detail. To get details on the condition of the equipment you want to
buy you can phone up and ask them. Then it depends on which salesdroid
answers
the phone. 

When I called about an A50/1.4 in bargain condition a couple of years
ago I got an obvious enthusiast who told me I've been thinking of buying
that one for myself! and generally enthused about it. She told be it was
really almost mint except for a slightly dented filter ring which still
accepted filters without any problem. I bought it and it turned out to be
a great deal (just as it was described: the filter ring looked rough in
one spot but filters went on and off readily).

A few weeks ago I called about an FA*80-200/2.8 in bargain condition.
The guy who answered the phone offered to email me some photos of it and
did so (although a day later than he'd promised). I bought it and discovered
that it had a dented filter ring that *did* prevent filters from being
mounted
at all. That defect wasn't visible in the photos at all and I can't believe
he missed it when he examined the lens. He just didn't want to lose the
commission on a fairly big sale and gambled that I wouldn't get pissed off
and return it. Well, he was right, but I'm going to ask a lot more questions
in the future. (I was able to straighten out the filter ring enough that
it now works, with some difficulty; I've just bought a junk 77mm filter
on eBay and I'm going to knock the glass out of it and screw it on as a
semi-permanent thread extender.)

If you want to buy from KEH, phone them up and ask questions. They have
a 14 day return policy.


-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com


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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread admin

All the camera stores around here are too lame to have even *heard* of this
device (seriously). I know because I asked. 

Know where I can buy one on the web?



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For a few bucks, you can buy a lens vise from Fargo and use it to fix dented
filter rings.  I have one at home. It works well.  Some camera stores have
one on hand and will fix the filter ring for a nominal fee, or even free,
if
you are a known customer.  Ask around.

Len



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Re: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread admin

Well I just had a similar experience to yours: Someone on the list must
have tipped off KEH to my post because they just *phoned* me and told me
they'd give me a $50.00 credit on my American Express card for the dented
filter ring!

BTW: I bought my F100/2.8 macro - pretty much the same as the FA - from
them and isn't it an amazing lens?! 

-- Original Message --

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 A few weeks ago I called about an FA*80-200/2.8 in bargain condition.
 The guy who answered the phone offered to email me some photos of it
and
 did so (although a day later than he'd promised). I bought it and discovered
 that it had a dented filter ring that *did* prevent filters from being
mounted
...

I had a similar experience with them in that I found the 100/2.8 FA
Macro I got from them having a slight bump on the filter thread. It is
unlikely that I'll ever use filters on the lens but I pointed out that
anyway to the saleswoman who I had dealt with and they uploaded a 20
bucks bonus on my file without fuss. I think it was a fair thing since
I
certainly wasn't going to return the lens across customs and an ocean
just for that.

HTH, Flavio


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www.robertstech.com


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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Skofteland, Christian

I've got a 100 F2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro which focuses to 1:1.  Talk about
an amazing lens!  It has become my work horse for nature closeups.  I know
that KEH had one just like it at twice the price I paid on gulp eBay.  My
next lens has to be a 300 or 400  telephoto.  Know any good relatively
inexpensive ones?

Christian Skofteland
System Administrator
ServerVault Inc.
Securing the Internet
(703)373-5971 (Direct)
(703)333-5900 (Main)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question re Tokina KEH


Well I just had a similar experience to yours: Someone on the list must
have tipped off KEH to my post because they just *phoned* me and told me
they'd give me a $50.00 credit on my American Express card for the dented
filter ring!

BTW: I bought my F100/2.8 macro - pretty much the same as the FA - from
them and isn't it an amazing lens?! 

-- Original Message --

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 A few weeks ago I called about an FA*80-200/2.8 in bargain condition.
 The guy who answered the phone offered to email me some photos of it
and
 did so (although a day later than he'd promised). I bought it and
discovered
 that it had a dented filter ring that *did* prevent filters from being
mounted
...

I had a similar experience with them in that I found the 100/2.8 FA
Macro I got from them having a slight bump on the filter thread. It is
unlikely that I'll ever use filters on the lens but I pointed out that
anyway to the saleswoman who I had dealt with and they uploaded a 20
bucks bonus on my file without fuss. I think it was a fair thing since
I
certainly wasn't going to return the lens across customs and an ocean
just for that.

HTH, Flavio


-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com


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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Skofteland, Christian

oops!  I meant 105mm

Christian Skofteland
System Administrator
ServerVault Inc.
Securing the Internet
(703)373-5971 (Direct)
(703)333-5900 (Main)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question re Tokina KEH


Well I just had a similar experience to yours: Someone on the list must
have tipped off KEH to my post because they just *phoned* me and told me
they'd give me a $50.00 credit on my American Express card for the dented
filter ring!

BTW: I bought my F100/2.8 macro - pretty much the same as the FA - from
them and isn't it an amazing lens?! 

-- Original Message --

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 A few weeks ago I called about an FA*80-200/2.8 in bargain condition.
 The guy who answered the phone offered to email me some photos of it
and
 did so (although a day later than he'd promised). I bought it and
discovered
 that it had a dented filter ring that *did* prevent filters from being
mounted
...

I had a similar experience with them in that I found the 100/2.8 FA
Macro I got from them having a slight bump on the filter thread. It is
unlikely that I'll ever use filters on the lens but I pointed out that
anyway to the saleswoman who I had dealt with and they uploaded a 20
bucks bonus on my file without fuss. I think it was a fair thing since
I
certainly wasn't going to return the lens across customs and an ocean
just for that.

HTH, Flavio


-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com


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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread admin

I've got a 100 F2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro which focuses to 1:1.  Talk
about
an amazing lens!  It has become my work horse for nature closeups.  I know
that KEH had one just like it at twice the price I paid on gulp eBay.


eBay prices are funny. I bought my Pentax F100/2.8 macro from KEH for quite
a bit *less* than they were selling for on eBay at the time.

My next lens has to be a 300 or 400  telephoto. Know any good relatively
inexpensive ones?

Your best bet in terms of quality for little money is to look for a used
manual focus one.

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RE: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Rfsindg

 My next lens has to be a 300 or 400 telephoto.
 Know any good relatively inexpensive ones?

Christian,

Check ebay, there was an A 300mm f4 going for about half price.

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Question re Tokina KEH

2001-08-30 Thread Ken Archer

You might want to thank John DeLoach [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is on the 
list and and has helped me in the past.  I would suspect from the 
keh.com that there is a connection.

On Thursday 30 August 2001 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I just had a similar experience to yours: Someone on the list
 must have tipped off KEH to my post because they just *phoned* me and
 told me they'd give me a $50.00 credit on my American Express card
 for the dented filter ring!

 BTW: I bought my F100/2.8 macro - pretty much the same as the FA -
 from them and isn't it an amazing lens?!
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