Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Nicer viewfinder and more conductive to manual focussing! > Half-stops for shutter speed, too... The MZ-S got that as well... Pål< twice the price of ZX-5n though. i was looking for a camera body in the $500 street price range. there is too large a gap between MZ-S and ZX-5n. Herb
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, gfen wrote: > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: > > Yes. Wow, I've fatfingered two responses in a row.. Perhaps I _shouldn't_ be working today.. I knew it was a mistake to be up at 4am entertaining guests... (yawn) -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: > > Nicer viewfinder and more conductive to manual focussing! > > Half-stops for shutter speed, too... > The MZ-S got that as well... Perhaps I owe it to myself to checck an MZ-S next time I'm at B&H... -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: > Yes. -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, gfen wrote: > I've never held or seen an MZ-S in the flesh, does it have the same > general layout, that is a real dial on the top to do shutter speeds Control-C aborts, Control-X sends.. they're next to each other, and evidently, I misse dthe right one. Anyways, when I'm less bored and less worked, I'll just dig this up myself, so nevermind the inane question (and only half completed, at that, as I had many other questions about the layout which I'm sure are answered in a dozen plus places on the internet) (golly, it sure would be NICE if my local shops carried Pentax in the flesh, sigh, etc) (felt obligated to add that last part) -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
- Original Message - From: "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Herb Chong wrote: > (on the ZX-5n) > > two features i am missing that i would like to see, mirror lockup and P-TTL > > flash support. > > Nicer viewfinder and more conductive to manual focussing! > Half-stops for shutter speed, too... The MZ-S got that as well... Pål
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
- Original Message - From: "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've never held or seen an MZ-S in the flesh, does it have the same > general layout, that is a real dial on the top to do shutter speeds Yes.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Herb Chong wrote: (on the ZX-5n) > two features i am missing that i would like to see, mirror lockup and P-TTL > flash support. Nicer viewfinder and more conductive to manual focussing! Half-stops for shutter speed, too... -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: > The question is whether or not the MZ-5n/3 has played out it's role. > There's not much you can do with the MZ-5n/3 and still keep it simple. > You can of course update the AF but you cannot have several AF points > without redesigning or complicate the user interface. I feel that the > MZ-S really is the updated MZ-5n/3. I've never held or seen an MZ-S in the flesh, does it have the same general layout, that is a real dial on the top to do shutter speeds -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >The question is whether or not the MZ-5n/3 has played out it's role. There's not much you can do with the MZ-5n/3 and still keep it simple. You can of course update the AF but you cannot have several AF points without redesigning or complicate the user interface. I feel that the MZ-S really is the updated MZ-5n/3. Pål< two features i am missing that i would like to see, mirror lockup and P-TTL flash support. Herb
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Brad wrote: > That's all quite interesting. Will have to see what Pentax does with it. > The MZ-5n is/was a fine camera, got one myself. If they are keeping the MZ > line to some degree, perhaps some added features but keep that classy > looking MZ-5n style? Keep it affordable. The question is whether or not the MZ-5n/3 has played out it's role. There's not much you can do with the MZ-5n/3 and still keep it simple. You can of course update the AF but you cannot have several AF points without redesigning or complicate the user interface. I feel that the MZ-S really is the updated MZ-5n/3. Pål
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
That's all quite interesting. Will have to see what Pentax does with it. The MZ-5n is/was a fine camera, got one myself. If they are keeping the MZ line to some degree, perhaps some added features but keep that classy looking MZ-5n style? Keep it affordable. Really, I think Pentax's larger problem is advertising, at least in North American. I'm disgusted about the pitiful display in a dirty counter beside the junk used they have Pentax placed. Without any knowledge, like they didn't know Nikon and Canon were leaders, and no sales person prodding them, they'd never pick up a Pentax even to look, it is that bad. Now, my shop is one isolated place, but there is still a lack of knowledge of Pentax in NA. I've spoken with Pentax Canada about my store, they *may* send in a Rep to shake things up. If so, they'll have a better display, or they'll say (*## you Pentax, you don't generate sales for us anyhow, we'll stick to the top three. Bad? From my viewpoint yes, it's my place, they are good. But with no Pentax, there's no me. As for everyone else, well, it probably won't hurt the stores sales a bit, and perhaps it better to have no display than a very crappy one that doesn't do Pentax any justice. Whoa, a bit side-tracked, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Artur Ledóchowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:38 AM Subject: Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan > Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Who decides these things, btw? Is this something the > >manufacturer sets up or what? > > These things are decided by the market or to be more precise - by two factors: first - something known as the public opinion, second - by the mass media (mostly the photo magazines). The market is all about the competition and it's obvious that the customer compare the cameras, that are of similar specifications. The magazines do the same. One can complain about how more or less objective various tests are but cannot deny the fact that they shape the customers' opinions. So no producer can ignore these factors unless wants to be out of the competition (which actually happened to Pentax to some degree:)). > Mind that I wrote the MZ-5n/3 is CONSIDERED to be a rival:)) > But don't you think the advanced amateurs need some fresh air from Pentax?:) MZ-S is not the least expensive beast and I know there is a need for a camera that would be as simple yet advanced and affordable - just as the MZ-5n/3 was for recent years. > All above is of course IMHO:)) > Regards > Artur >
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who decides these things, btw? Is this something the >manufacturer sets up or what? These things are decided by the market or to be more precise - by two factors: first - something known as the public opinion, second - by the mass media (mostly the photo magazines). The market is all about the competition and it's obvious that the customer compare the cameras, that are of similar specifications. The magazines do the same. One can complain about how more or less objective various tests are but cannot deny the fact that they shape the customers' opinions. So no producer can ignore these factors unless wants to be out of the competition (which actually happened to Pentax to some degree:)). Mind that I wrote the MZ-5n/3 is CONSIDERED to be a rival:)) But don't you think the advanced amateurs need some fresh air from Pentax?:) MZ-S is not the least expensive beast and I know there is a need for a camera that would be as simple yet advanced and affordable - just as the MZ-5n/3 was for recent years. All above is of course IMHO:)) Regards Artur
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Quoth Dan Scott: > Now I'll have to go look at other camera co.s to see what my ZX-5n is a > rival to. Who decides these things, btw? Is this something the > manufacturer sets up or what? It's In A Class By Itself, of course.
Re: Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
You are right. Many users wait for sth succesor of MZ3. Are you Polish? Alek from Cracow Użytkownik Artur Ledóchowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >- Original Message - >From: "Pĺl Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan > > >>> "Flagship" digital slr; is this a case of unfortunate phrasing? Or is the >film sibling of this camera the long rumored flagship? If the MZ-60 and MZ-6 >is going to continue in the line-up, then the new cameras are probably >top-of-the-line. > >IMHO what is really needed soon in the film SLR segment is the successor of >the MZ-5n/3. Many people are confused because the MZ-5n is more expensive >than the MZ-6, yet doesn't support P-TTL, has the same AF, has no PF's and >generally is not considered to be superior to the MZ-6. Besides the model >itself is quite old - especially its AF is pretty outdated for the camera >that is considered to be a rival to F80 or EOS30. >I'd love to see something like, say, MZ-2, that would have the SAFOX VII and >P-TTL:) >Regards >Artur >
RE: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Did we? I know there are often rumours, but was one actually confirmed by Pentax themselves? I realise the MZ-D/MD-S/MR-52 was confirmed and vanished, but that was 2 years ago, wasn't it? Was there another one? > -Original Message- > From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:djm@;stanleypmlaw.com] > Sent: 11 November 2002 16:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan > > > Before we get our hopes up again, let's remember that we had > a "confirmed" plan to release a DSLR last year, which never > escaped from the vapor. > > zoomshot wrote: > > > Straight from this weeks Amateur Photographer 'THISWEEK' section; > > > > PENTAX UK HAS CONFIRMED plans for the launch of a new > flagship digital > > SLR next spring. > >
Re: AP (16/11) - Pentax UK Confirms digital SLR launch plan
Before we get our hopes up again, let's remember that we had a "confirmed" plan to release a DSLR last year, which never escaped from the vapor. zoomshot wrote: > Straight from this weeks Amateur Photographer 'THISWEEK' section; > > PENTAX UK HAS CONFIRMED plans for the launch of a new flagship digital > SLR next spring.
