Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-14 Thread Bruce Dayton

John,

I've used all of them.  I would lean towards the Supra.  Of the Kodaks, it
will provide the most punch and has good latitude.  The Max grain is not as
good and the Portra will still be a little more drab - me thinks.  I hear
Fuji NPH is also quite nice.

Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA


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> Hi, experts:
> In July/Aug I'm going to spend 2 weeks in the high Canadian Arctic. The
sun
> will be up all the time I'm there, but the quality of light will
> be...strange. I expect the landscape, villages, animals to be pretty drab
in
> terms of colour range. I only want to bring one kind of film so that I'm
not
> always sorry there's something else in the camera (weight restrictions
means
> one camera (ZX-5n) and one or two lenses (probably a 50 mm and a 28-200
> zoom, and a small lightweight tripod).
>
> I think that ISO 400 might be the best compromise, and want film with wide
> exposure latitude so that I can make the most of this once-in-a-lifetime
> opportunity; therefore, negative rather than slide film. Also, I think
that
> given the drab palette, I should go for a film with enhanced colour
> saturation.
> Therefore, I'm considering:
>
> Fuji Superia 400 (CH)
> Kodak Max 400
> Kodak Portra 400VC
> Kodak Supra 400
>
> Can anyone with experience with these films suggest what they would use?
> Thanks a lot.
> JJ
>
> J. John Cohen
> Department of Immunology, MailStop B-184
> University of Colorado Medical School
> Denver, CO 80262
> Phone +1 303 315 8898
> Fax +1 303 315 5967
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Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-14 Thread Bgpentax

  You're in luck..July '01 issue Pop.Photog out today has
 feature article on 89different color films...My personal favorite
 was not on your list: Kodak Royal Gold-400..a little pricey at
 $3.89 + s/h ("THE FILM SHOP"  www.filmshop.com) but well
  worth the very forgiving latitude and increased color saturation.
  I used to shoot Fuji for price with an occasional slip to Kodak
  until I noticed something odd..All my money shots were on
  Kodak...
 Happy hunting...
 Bob
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Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-14 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

I definitely wouldn't be going with Portra 400VC, I have noticed it has a
very unforgiving exposure latitude, I found it more unforgiving that Fuji
Sensia 100 Slide film. Also its designed for portraits, so when shooting
normal shots you get some weird colours, light colours look a bit pail and
bright colours tend to look like there blooming.

I dont personaly like supras colours, but i think it probaly would be the
best for your purpose.

Cya
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Subject: Best ISO 400 negative film?


> Hi, experts:
> In July/Aug I'm going to spend 2 weeks in the high Canadian Arctic. The
sun
> will be up all the time I'm there, but the quality of light will
> be...strange. I expect the landscape, villages, animals to be pretty drab
in
> terms of colour range. I only want to bring one kind of film so that I'm
not
> always sorry there's something else in the camera (weight restrictions
means
> one camera (ZX-5n) and one or two lenses (probably a 50 mm and a 28-200
> zoom, and a small lightweight tripod).
>
> I think that ISO 400 might be the best compromise, and want film with wide
> exposure latitude so that I can make the most of this once-in-a-lifetime
> opportunity; therefore, negative rather than slide film. Also, I think
that
> given the drab palette, I should go for a film with enhanced colour
> saturation.
> Therefore, I'm considering:
>
> Fuji Superia 400 (CH)
> Kodak Max 400
> Kodak Portra 400VC
> Kodak Supra 400
>
> Can anyone with experience with these films suggest what they would use?
> Thanks a lot.
> JJ
>
> J. John Cohen
> Department of Immunology, MailStop B-184
> University of Colorado Medical School
> Denver, CO 80262
> Phone +1 303 315 8898
> Fax +1 303 315 5967
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-15 Thread Aaron Reynolds



Rob Brigham wrote:

>  Skin tones looked atrocious and there was an
> overall green cast to all of the pictures.


Overall colour casts on colour neg films can only be from a couple of
things.  Most likely the lab you took that Superia to doesn't have a
proper channel set up for it.  Nobody in their right mind would produce
a film that, properly printed, has an overall colour cast to it.

-Aaron
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RE: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-15 Thread Rob Brigham

But its a Fuji Frontier lab and they do fantastic prints of all my other
films - I have tried several labs and now dont go anywhere else.  Its
not just the colour cast anyway, the whole thing is c**p.  Still,
perhaps I will try scanning some to see.  Maybe their chemicals were
contaminated perhaps, and the negs ruined?  Dont know, but Royal Gold
400 is good enough for it not to be worth me putting too much effort
into finding out.


Rob

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Rob Brigham wrote:

>  Skin tones looked atrocious and there was an
> overall green cast to all of the pictures.


Overall colour casts on colour neg films can only be from a couple of
things.  Most likely the lab you took that Superia to doesn't have a
proper channel set up for it.  Nobody in their right mind would produce
a film that, properly printed, has an overall colour cast to it.

-Aaron
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Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds



Rob Brigham wrote:
> 
> But its a Fuji Frontier lab and they do fantastic prints of all my other
> films - I have tried several labs and now dont go anywhere else.  Its
> not just the colour cast anyway, the whole thing is c**p.  Still,
> perhaps I will try scanning some to see.  Maybe their chemicals were
> contaminated perhaps, and the negs ruined?  Dont know, but Royal Gold
> 400 is good enough for it not to be worth me putting too much effort
> into finding out.

The brand of the machine has nothing to do with whether or not they
properly balance channels for each film.  Also, the Frontier adds the
ability to "juice" the saturation electronically, which many labs
running them have been known to do; IMO this is awful and looks awful. 
Anyone in Southern Ontario might recall hearing Black's radio ads for
their new Vivid Print service, with more saturated colour?  Yeah, they
put in Frontiers.

-Aaron


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RE: Best ISO 400 Negative Film

2001-06-17 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Some time ago there was a discussion about AGFA wanted to spin off its film
business. Last week I read they decided not to do that and continue the
business. They were afraid the good reputation of Agfa would be miss used.

I have used Agfachrome50S professional slide films over twenty years ago,
really liked it, but moved to print film. Mostly Kodak at the moment since I
lived in the USA for a few years.

Frits

> My vote goes for the new Portra series from Kodak. Available
> in neutral
> and vivid colour, it is fine grained with fabulous colour. A close second
> would be the new Agfa stuff, whose name currently escapes me, which is
> extremely sharp and accurate colours. I really like all of Agfa's
> stuff; its
> big in Europe, but seems to get pooh-poohed  in North America,
> probably bec
> ause their distributor is not as aggressive as Kodak or Fuji. Beautiful
> stuff like Scala and their slow slide films are some of the
> finest in their
> class.
>
> Cameron

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Re: Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?

2001-06-14 Thread David J Brooks

I have only used the superia and the max 400's.The superia just in 
the last few months.I find both are good however the fuji i'm finding 
gives me a bit better contrast on dull light conditions.Alot of my 
horse shots have green backgrounds(trees/grasses) and i find the 
kodak is a bit darker than the fuji(using zoom lenses mostly).The 
fuji looks a tad cleaner.
Enjoy your trip.The farthest north i have made it to is churchill 
manitoba(as far as working ) and i live in canada.You'll like it 
alot.Dont' look for to many trees.eh

Dave

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From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:26:51 -0700
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best ISO 400 negative film?


John,

I've used all of them.  I would lean towards the Supra.  Of the 
Kodaks, it
will provide the most punch and has good latitude.  The Max grain is 
not as
good and the Portra will still be a little more drab - me thinks.  I 
hear
Fuji NPH is also quite nice.

Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA


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Subject: Best ISO 400 negative film?


> Hi, experts:
> In July/Aug I'm going to spend 2 weeks in the high Canadian Arctic. 
The
sun
> will be up all the time I'm there, but the quality of light will
> be...strange. I expect the landscape, villages, animals to be 
pretty drab
in
> terms of colour range. I only want to bring one kind of film so 
that I'm
not
> always sorry there's something else in the camera (weight 
restrictions
means
> one camera (ZX-5n) and one or two lenses (probably a 50 mm and a 28-
200
> zoom, and a small lightweight tripod).
>
> I think that ISO 400 might be the best compromise, and want film 
with wide
> exposure latitude so that I can make the most of this once-in-a-
lifetime
> opportunity; therefore, negative rather than slide film. Also, I 
think
that
> given the drab palette, I should go for a film with enhanced colour
> saturation.
> Therefore, I'm considering:
>
> Fuji Superia 400 (CH)
> Kodak Max 400
> Kodak Portra 400VC
> Kodak Supra 400
>
> Can anyone with experience with these films suggest what they would 
use?
> Thanks a lot.
> JJ
>
> J. John Cohen
> Department of Immunology, MailStop B-184
> University of Colorado Medical School
> Denver, CO 80262
> Phone +1 303 315 8898
> Fax     +1 303 315 5967
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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