Re: But what are you taking pictures for?
Once upon a time, I watched lots of 'Focus Groups' where I sat in a dark room behind a mirror and watched 10 folks and a moderator discuss the merits and drawbacks of various things. (It's a way to get 'crazy ass young marketing types' in touch with what real customers think about their latest offerings.) Cops were always the most observant, especially when were critiquing some changes in the service system. They walk thru life aware. The rest of the public is in a fog by comparison. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:51 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Not fair. The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the decision that no further action was required upon investigation. His personal interests are largely irrelevant. I am not sure I would have stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at night _must_ be up to no good. Well, this kind of reminds me of when I flew down to New York City for the Cycle Messenger World Championships back in 2005. I didn't have a passport, so crossed the border with my birth certificate and an expired driver's license (as it had a photo and my birthdate on it). With the sketchy ID I had, he asked the usual questions. My only checked luggage (which was next to me) was my bike in a proper hardshell traveling case. He asked what was in the box. He asked what type of bike I had. Rossin trackbike, I replied. He asked, Is that titanium? Nope, aluminium, was my prompt reply. I later related that story to a friend, and he said, Wow, the guy knew that Rossin doesn't make a titanium frame? He must have been trying to trip you up. I explained to him that in fact he wasn't interested in my answer and likely didn't know that Rossin only (at that time) only made steel and aluminium frames. He was looking for my reaction, any hesitation on my part, ~how~ I answered, not ~what~ I answered. I'm guessing that Larry's cop was in the same situation. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Not fair. The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the decision that no further action was required upon investigation. His personal interests are largely irrelevant. I am not sure I would have stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at night _must_ be up to no good. Well, this kind of reminds me of when I flew down to New York City for the Cycle Messenger World Championships back in 2005. I didn't have a passport, so crossed the border with my birth certificate and an expired driver's license (as it had a photo and my birthdate on it). With the sketchy ID I had, he asked the usual questions. My only checked luggage (which was next to me) was my bike in a proper hardshell traveling case. He asked what was in the box. He asked what type of bike I had. Rossin trackbike, I replied. He asked, Is that titanium? Nope, aluminium, was my prompt reply. I later related that story to a friend, and he said, Wow, the guy knew that Rossin doesn't make a titanium frame? He must have been trying to trip you up. I explained to him that in fact he wasn't interested in my answer and likely didn't know that Rossin only (at that time) only made steel and aluminium frames. He was looking for my reaction, any hesitation on my part, ~how~ I answered, not ~what~ I answered. I'm guessing that Larry's cop was in the same situation. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: But what are you taking pictures for? I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene pool. Not fair. The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the decision that no further action was required upon investigation. His personal interests are largely irrelevant. I am not sure I would have stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at night _must_ be up to no good. I was commenting on the cop's apparent lack of any creative efforts This is a completely seperate issue from questioning people who are not engaged in criminal activity. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: frank theriault On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Not fair. ?The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the decision that no further action was required upon investigation. ?His personal interests are largely irrelevant. ?I am not sure I would have stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at night _must_ be up to no good. Well, this kind of reminds me of when I flew down to New York City for the Cycle Messenger World Championships back in 2005. I didn't have a passport, so crossed the border with my birth certificate and an expired driver's license (as it had a photo and my birthdate on it). With the sketchy ID I had, he asked the usual questions. My only checked luggage (which was next to me) was my bike in a proper hardshell traveling case. He asked what was in the box. He asked what type of bike I had. Rossin trackbike, I replied. He asked, Is that titanium? Nope, aluminium, was my prompt reply. I later related that story to a friend, and he said, Wow, the guy knew that Rossin doesn't make a titanium frame? He must have been trying to trip you up. I explained to him that in fact he wasn't interested in my answer and likely didn't know that Rossin only (at that time) only made steel and aluminium frames. He was looking for my reaction, any hesitation on my part, ~how~ I answered, not ~what~ I answered. I'm guessing that Larry's cop was in the same situation. I expect Larry's cop was doing what cops are supposed to do, checking up on an apparently abandoned vehicle on the side of the road to: a. see if someone was drunk and passed out b. see if someone was broke down and needed help c. see if someone abandoned a stolen car there d. log it and put a sticker on it, so the next cop who came by would know it had already been checked, and it could be towed if it sat there long enough. From Larry's story, the cop didn't see him taking pictures, Larry saw the police car next to his car and walked down to talk to the cop. The cop asked Larry what he was doing and Larry told him. That's when the cop asked But what are you taking pictures for? It's not an unreasonable question given the time of day, location and apparent subject matter - after midnight [?], taking photos of the power grid out in the middle of nowhere. Having determined Larry wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't in trouble didn't need help, he left Larry to do his thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I expect Larry's cop was doing what cops are supposed to do, checking up on an apparently abandoned vehicle on the side of the road [...] snip snip It's not an unreasonable question given the time of day, location and apparent subject matter - after midnight [?], taking photos of the power grid out in the middle of nowhere. Having determined Larry wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't in trouble didn't need help, he left Larry to do his thing. I agree with everything you say. My point was simply that when cops or other investigators ask questions, the ~way~ those questions are answered is often as important to the investigator as what's said. Shifty eyes, uncomfortable looks, hesitation, stammering, profuse sweating, turning and fleeing all raise red flags. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if nominal exposure is somewhere between 10-25 seconds at f/1.8 and ISO 400. However, I just have to bracket the hell out of each shot, and then pick the best when I get home. Digital is wonderful though because I can at least get into the right ballpark by looking at the display. When you're bracketing 20 second exposures, with 20 second noise cancelling wait periods, it's very easy to spend half an hour just trying to nail the exposure by bracketing a shot. I did figure out last night that I can save a lot of time by cranking the ISO up to 3200 to figure out the nominal exposure and composition, then crank it down and bracket at 100-400. Beyond ISO 400 and the K20 gets too noisy for the long exposures. That reminds me, I did some test shots with both the K20 and the K100 to see how the K100 did in comparison. I have come to the realization that I want a D700 with a 35/1.4 and a 50/1.4 or maybe even a 50/1.2. Maybe, by the time I can afford one, Pentax will have something with that level of high ISO performance. The problem is, that for night photography, assuming the 35mm form factor, I'd pretty much need full frame in order to get in the range of f/1.4 with a 30ish mm on a 35mm angle of view. I don't know of any 20mm f/1.4 lenses. At least not affordable by mere mortals. Thanks for this. It is one thing I really want to try my hand at. For a variety of reasons, I've not been further than seven miles from my house in the last two years, and there is a limit on what you can find to take pictures of that is new. However, with some work I've had done to the house, the view has come to me so I will experiment with some long exposure photography - especially as I've just found my tripod again. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They realy are cool! rEGARDS Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 10, 2009 08:24 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: But what are you taking pictures for? I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene pool. Not fair. The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the decision that no further action was required upon investigation. His personal interests are largely irrelevant. I am not sure I would have stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at night _must_ be up to no good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very good -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 10 November 2009 07:24 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: But what are you taking pictures for? I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry these are great - make me wonder how stupid I am to sleep at night... Cheers Ecke 2009/11/10 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen wrote: I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ That is the best story I've read in a while. Many times, while adding nitrates to the environment, I've had philosophical thoughts. Never been in an opportunity when I could share my thoughts with law enforcement. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I love the fact that when I'm out taking night shots I generally don't have to be concerned about what others think, as there is no one with cooee to observe what I'm doing. Remote outback ftw!! Nice shots Larry. You need a D700 :-) DS 2009/11/10 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: Larry Colen wrote: I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ That is the best story I've read in a while. Many times, while adding nitrates to the environment, I've had philosophical thoughts. Never been in an opportunity when I could share my thoughts with law enforcement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:06:43PM +1100, Derby Chang wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ That is the best story I've read in a while. Many times, while adding nitrates to the environment, I've had philosophical thoughts. Never been in an opportunity when I could share my thoughts with law enforcement. Officer Boyd didn't show up until well after the nitration was finished. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: snip The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. snip Maybe he just wanted to make sure you're not a terrorist? (tongue only slightly in cheek). ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: snip I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ snip Very cool shots!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman wrote: I reckon the answer to your question is hidden in the Orion's belt... ;-)... Where /is/ that blasted cat!? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Larry Colen I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! Sometimes that's the only way to explain what you're doing in a way they can understand; just show 'em the picture. The first two are the best for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: But what are you taking pictures for? I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene pool. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: snip The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. snip http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Maybe he just wanted to make sure you're not a terrorist? (tongue only slightly in cheek). ;-) cheers, frank That was my thought, too, Frank... Larry - nice story -- and I've always been font of power lines and Orion... I'd prune a bit more for better impact. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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WOW! Help me support Autism research! Join my team! http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blubiconsbuddies http://stampmine.blogspot.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/ --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: But what are you taking pictures for? To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 2:37 AM Very good -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 10 November 2009 07:24 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: But what are you taking pictures for? I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen ...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/11/10 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene pool Guess it still needs a dash of chlorine... ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:10:33PM +0100, eckinator wrote: 2009/11/10 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene pool Guess it still needs a dash of chlorine... ]=) He actually seemed very nice. Let's face it, there probably aren't a dozen DSLRs that live within a dozen miles of where I took that photo. There aren't a lot of people there, and they don't have a lot of money. He may have never seen anyone using a camera that could get pictures in that light before. Once I showed him the pictures, he seemed to catch on very quick. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 11/9/2009 11:22:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, l...@red4est.com writes: I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ === Very nice. Wait until he has grand kids, then he'll pick up a camera. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good story and a good set of photos, Larry. Very interesting photos indeed. Nice work. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: But what are you taking pictures for? I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of that. He was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking pictures. The phrase But what are you taking pictures *for*? kept coming up. I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty? Nope. Do you paint? Nope. Make music? Nope. Would you like to see them? OK. We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: But what are you taking pictures for?
Larry Colen wrote: We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I put one of the shots on the display. Cool! I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to 14, I still have some work to do: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which I've cropped out in a couple of them: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ As good a reason as they come for picking up a camera, these are fantastic. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I reckon the answer to your question is hidden in the Orion's belt... ;-)... On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my eye. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:28:06AM -, Malcolm Smith wrote: Larry Colen wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/ As good a reason as they come for picking up a camera, these are fantastic. Thanks a bunch. It seems as if nominal exposure is somewhere between 10-25 seconds at f/1.8 and ISO 400. However, I just have to bracket the hell out of each shot, and then pick the best when I get home. Digital is wonderful though because I can at least get into the right ballpark by looking at the display. When you're bracketing 20 second exposures, with 20 second noise cancelling wait periods, it's very easy to spend half an hour just trying to nail the exposure by bracketing a shot. I did figure out last night that I can save a lot of time by cranking the ISO up to 3200 to figure out the nominal exposure and composition, then crank it down and bracket at 100-400. Beyond ISO 400 and the K20 gets too noisy for the long exposures. That reminds me, I did some test shots with both the K20 and the K100 to see how the K100 did in comparison. I have come to the realization that I want a D700 with a 35/1.4 and a 50/1.4 or maybe even a 50/1.2. Maybe, by the time I can afford one, Pentax will have something with that level of high ISO performance. The problem is, that for night photography, assuming the 35mm form factor, I'd pretty much need full frame in order to get in the range of f/1.4 with a 30ish mm on a 35mm angle of view. I don't know of any 20mm f/1.4 lenses. At least not affordable by mere mortals. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
