RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 8:38, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:

 This update is an example which shows that Pentax does listen to 
 their customers after all...

See whining works :-)

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RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 9 Jan 2004 at 8:38, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:

  This update is an example which shows that Pentax does listen to
  their customers after all...

 See whining works :-)

I am 10 years away from the *ist-D and still over the moon with the
news.

Kostas



RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Desjardins
I just did the upgrade.  This whole process is now eerily similar to my
Spottie.  It does work fine, however, and it meters correctly as my 4
shot test run indicates. Very acceptable result from my POV.

My only confusion is that the associated paperwork on how to use HyM
still warns about a possible exposure error.  p. 129 in the book
essentially repeats this warning.  I guess I just don't see the
problem.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread Bill Owens
My guess is that this is a warning that if you change either the aperture or
shutter speed, the green button needs to be pressed again.

Think I'll go out and shoot some with the Vivitar S1 70-210.

Bill

 My only confusion is that the associated paperwork on how to use HyM
 still warns about a possible exposure error.  p. 129 in the book
 essentially repeats this warning.  I guess I just don't see the
 problem.


 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens


 I just did the upgrade.  This whole process is now eerily similar to my
 Spottie.  It does work fine, however, and it meters correctly as my 4
 shot test run indicates. Very acceptable result from my POV.

 My only confusion is that the associated paperwork on how to use HyM
 still warns about a possible exposure error.  p. 129 in the book
 essentially repeats this warning.  I guess I just don't see the
 problem.

Life seems to end at a second and a half with hypermanual/lens off A. Long
exposure metering doesn't seem to happen.

William Robb



Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Bill,

on 09 Jan 04 you wrote in pentax.list:

My guess is that this is a warning that if you change either the aperture or
shutter speed, the green button needs to be pressed again.

Or if the light changes or you point the camera to another direction...

Cheers, Heiko



RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-09 Thread Leonard Paris
A problem that does not occur is one you don't have to worry about.  Take 
two pictures and call me in the morning.

Len
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From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:10:08 -0500
I just did the upgrade.  This whole process is now eerily similar to my
Spottie.  It does work fine, however, and it meters correctly as my 4
shot test run indicates. Very acceptable result from my POV.
My only confusion is that the associated paperwork on how to use HyM
still warns about a possible exposure error.  p. 129 in the book
essentially repeats this warning.  I guess I just don't see the
problem.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-08 Thread Stan Halpin
It keeps the same shutter speed. It is as though you had set 
the exposure manually. It sticks until you push the button 
again.

stan

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

OK, now for the $64,000 question:

Once the ap and shutter speed have been set,
will the camera remember them for subsequent
exposures until it's reset, or does the green button
routine have to be implemented for each exposure?
Bill Owens wrote:


I just updated mine and guess what guys and gals?  The ist D will now meter
and expose properly with my M100/4.0 Macro. Directions on how to accomplish:
1. Set custom functions f stop other than A to on
2 Set mode dial to M
3. Set aperture ring to desired f-stop
4. Press the green button
5 Press shutter release and take photo
Bill






Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-08 Thread Bill Owens


 OK, now for the $64,000 question:

 Once the ap and shutter speed have been set,
 will the camera remember them for subsequent
 exposures until it's reset, or does the green button
 routine have to be implemented for each exposure?

It remembers them until reset.  If you change the aperture value, you have
to press the green button again.

Bill




Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Now THAT is really good news.  Thanks, Stan.

Stan Halpin wrote:

 It keeps the same shutter speed. It is as though you had set
 the exposure manually. It sticks until you push the button
 again.

 stan

 Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  OK, now for the $64,000 question:
 
  Once the ap and shutter speed have been set,
  will the camera remember them for subsequent
  exposures until it's reset, or does the green button
  routine have to be implemented for each exposure?



Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-08 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Wow.  I don't care if I have to hit the button 5 times.  It now 
basically meters with M  K lenses and I don't have to sell mine.

Woo hoo.

rg

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
OK, now for the $64,000 question:

Once the ap and shutter speed have been set,
will the camera remember them for subsequent
exposures until it's reset, or does the green button
routine have to be implemented for each exposure?
Bill Owens wrote:


I just updated mine and guess what guys and gals?  The ist D will now meter
and expose properly with my M100/4.0 Macro. Directions on how to accomplish:
1. Set custom functions f stop other than A to on
2 Set mode dial to M
3. Set aperture ring to desired f-stop
4. Press the green button
5 Press shutter release and take photo
Bill







Re: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Once again, it depends on the kind of photography you do.  Metering for each
exposure can be a PITA for many photographers in numerous situations.  Not having
to press the green button every time one wanted to make an exposure, and being
able to retain the last exposure info, would be important to a lot of people,
myself included.

But, regardless, it's great to know that the camera now has added capabilities and
that K and M lens users can continue using their favorite glass regardless of
shooting style.

I'll certainly second your enthusiasm ... Woo Hoo Too!

Robert Gonzalez wrote:

 Wow.  I don't care if I have to hit the button 5 times.  It now
 basically meters with M  K lenses and I don't have to sell mine.

 Woo hoo.



RE: Firmware 1.10 and M lens

2004-01-08 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
This is great news! 

Pentax seems to have implemented this function in a very
ingenious way: the camera automatically steps down 
(dof preview) for a moment to meter at the correct aperture.
This is almost as good as having the full open aperture metering.

This update is an example which shows that Pentax does listen to 
their customers after all...

Antti-Pekka

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:07 AM
 To: PDML
 Subject: Firmware 1.10 and M lens
 
 I just updated mine and guess what guys and gals?  The ist D will
 now meter
 and expose properly with my M100/4.0 Macro. Directions on how to
 accomplish:
 
 1. Set custom functions f stop other than A to on
 2 Set mode dial to M
 3. Set aperture ring to desired f-stop
 4. Press the green button
 5 Press shutter release and take photo
 
 Bill