Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
In a message dated 4/23/2004 5:08:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted: I've collected the important specifications info included it in the list, together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: Portable Hard disk Devices - 12 devices (sorted by price): - Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [~$240 for 40 GB; ~$90 for unit] (Any 2.5 HDD, no MP3, 130x75x25mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=11 - Aska Tripper [~$250 for 40 GB; ~$140 for unit] (2.5 HDD, no MP3, 138x91x33mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) http://www.aska-corp.co.jp/oem/e-pro-top.htm http://www.photo.net/equipment/digital/tripper/ - Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5 LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500452.html - Jobo Image Tank G2 [~$260 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit alone] (Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 145x87x35mm, 340g, BW LCD for status) http://www.image-tank.com/englisch/e_itg2.html http://www.jobodigital.com/products/image_tank_g2.htm - Vosonic X's-Drive Pro VP300 [~$270 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit] (Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 136x86x37mm, 329g, BW LCD for status) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=20 - Archos AV140 Video Recorder [~$350 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3 Video/TV, 110x79x29mm, 290g, Color LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500431.html - Vosonic V-MP3H [~$350 for 40 GB] (Any 2.5 HDD, MP3 Video, 154x92x46 mm, 446g, Color 2.5 LCD) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=4 - Nixvue Digital Album Lite [~$380 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, no MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, BW LCD for status) http://www.nixvue.com/products/da/albumlite/index.html - Nixvue Vista [~$470 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, Color 1.8 LCD) http://www.nixvue.com/products/vista/index.html Delkin eFilm PicturePad [~$440 for 40 GB; same as above] http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_picturepad.html - FlashTrax SmartDisk [~$480 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3 Video/TV, 143x92x32mm, 340g, Color 3.5 LCD) http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp Innoplus Phototainer [same product as above, different marketing name] http://www.innoplus.com/html/eng_prod2.htm - Archos AV340 Video Recorder [~$500 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3 DivX/XviD/TV, 112x82x31 mm, 350g, Color 3.8' LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500521.html Portable CD-R/W Recorders - 4 devices: - Addonics MFR (also a DVD player) http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp - Nixvue Vizor http://www.nixvue.com/products/vizor/index.html - Jobo Apacer Disc Steno CP200 http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/disc_stone_cp200.asp - ezPnP DigiMagic CD burner http://www.digi-magic.com Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, for such people top three choices are probably: 1) Archos Gmini 220 [smallest and lightest, but just 20 GB] 2) Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [cheapest unit, but no MP3] 3) Jobo Image Tank G2 For those without notebook there are two categories to choose from, HD based CD based devices. If one has big Compact Flash card or big Microdrive then I doubt CD recorders are wise choice, to backup 4 GB microdrive to 700 MB CDs is very slow... So, to me the top two choices with big LCDs are: 1) Archos AV340 Video Recorder [biggest LCD, plays DivX XviD] 2) FlashTrax SmartDisk [nice big LCD, video playback] From CD recorders I like best Addonics MFR, since it's also DVD player, and as someone said, he has A.MFR and a small HDD device, good combo. I'd only buy portable CD recorder if I had to send copies around. But if some company comes out with DVD recorder, that would be much, much better device to choose. One could backup whole 4 GB Microdrive to one DVD media. One could have tons of MP3s on DVD media, one could have it to watch DVD movies too, etc. I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 1. Small and light 12 tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage Anyone want to add some other devices and opinions? There is much more into these devices than specs prices of course :) Hope this helps to someone good luck with your choices! Boyan P.S. Shop with good selection of portable devices: http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/c.ACCT139057/sc.2/category.3/.f --- Hey, cool, hadn't realized this thread had continued or that someone HAD gathered all the info. together. Personally, I almost went with the Apacer Steno Disc (because of not having to worry about a portable hard drive), then I ended up with the
RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted: I've collected the important specifications info included it in the list, together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: Portable Hard disk Devices - 12 devices (sorted by price): - Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [~$240 for 40 GB; ~$90 for unit] (Any 2.5 HDD, no MP3, 130x75x25mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=11 - Aska Tripper [~$250 for 40 GB; ~$140 for unit] (2.5 HDD, no MP3, 138x91x33mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) http://www.aska-corp.co.jp/oem/e-pro-top.htm http://www.photo.net/equipment/digital/tripper/ - Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5 LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500452.html - Jobo Image Tank G2 [~$260 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit alone] (Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 145x87x35mm, 340g, BW LCD for status) http://www.image-tank.com/englisch/e_itg2.html http://www.jobodigital.com/products/image_tank_g2.htm - Vosonic X's-Drive Pro VP300 [~$270 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit] (Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 136x86x37mm, 329g, BW LCD for status) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=20 - Archos AV140 Video Recorder [~$350 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3 Video/TV, 110x79x29mm, 290g, Color LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500431.html - Vosonic V-MP3H [~$350 for 40 GB] (Any 2.5 HDD, MP3 Video, 154x92x46 mm, 446g, Color 2.5 LCD) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=4 - Nixvue Digital Album Lite [~$380 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, no MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, BW LCD for status) http://www.nixvue.com/products/da/albumlite/index.html - Nixvue Vista [~$470 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, Color 1.8 LCD) http://www.nixvue.com/products/vista/index.html Delkin eFilm PicturePad [~$440 for 40 GB; same as above] http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_picturepad.html - FlashTrax SmartDisk [~$480 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3 Video/TV, 143x92x32mm, 340g, Color 3.5 LCD) http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp Innoplus Phototainer [same product as above, different marketing name] http://www.innoplus.com/html/eng_prod2.htm - Archos AV340 Video Recorder [~$500 for 40 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3 DivX/XviD/TV, 112x82x31 mm, 350g, Color 3.8' LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500521.html Portable CD-R/W Recorders - 4 devices: - Addonics MFR (also a DVD player) http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp - Nixvue Vizor http://www.nixvue.com/products/vizor/index.html - Jobo Apacer Disc Steno CP200 http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/disc_stone_cp200.asp - ezPnP DigiMagic CD burner http://www.digi-magic.com Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, for such people top three choices are probably: 1) Archos Gmini 220 [smallest and lightest, but just 20 GB] 2) Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [cheapest unit, but no MP3] 3) Jobo Image Tank G2 For those without notebook there are two categories to choose from, HD based CD based devices. If one has big Compact Flash card or big Microdrive then I doubt CD recorders are wise choice, to backup 4 GB microdrive to 700 MB CDs is very slow... So, to me the top two choices with big LCDs are: 1) Archos AV340 Video Recorder [biggest LCD, plays DivX XviD] 2) FlashTrax SmartDisk [nice big LCD, video playback] From CD recorders I like best Addonics MFR, since it's also DVD player, and as someone said, he has A.MFR and a small HDD device, good combo. I'd only buy portable CD recorder if I had to send copies around. But if some company comes out with DVD recorder, that would be much, much better device to choose. One could backup whole 4 GB Microdrive to one DVD media. One could have tons of MP3s on DVD media, one could have it to watch DVD movies too, etc. I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 1. Small and light 12 tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage Anyone want to add some other devices and opinions? There is much more into these devices than specs prices of course :) Hope this helps to someone good luck with your choices! Boyan P.S. Shop with good selection of portable devices: http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/c.ACCT139057/sc.2/category.3/.f -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2004 06:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use
RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
...and one more (20GB disc): http://shop.oege-energy.info/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1427PHPSE SSID=2ef6dfb7d87b11a34c01729cb7e96f40 Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. april 2004 13:39 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) I just found one more digital storing device (besides Image Tank, Flash Trax and Vosonic X-drive): Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo (less than 200$). This one writes the images onto 640MB MO-discs, which allegedly gives more durable storage, than CD's or DVD's. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. april 2004 07:01 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512 card, so i've never had a reason to use it so far. arnie - Hmmm, based on what Robert said, the Flashtrax is the only one that handles RAW well (or at all). And I am thinking I want the option to shoot just RAW. Anyway, I've settled on it, because it seems the best choice (though a bit more pricey than some). Eventually, when I save up some funds, that is, I am pretty sure that is the one I'll get. Good to know, thanks. It says in the description it will copy JPEGS and DATA, and it wasn't clear what that data was. Marnie aka Doe This discussion refers to the Archos Gmini.
Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted: I've collected the important specifications info included it in the list, together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: [list omitted to save space] Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, That depends on whether you carry your notebook everywhere. I don't (it's too large, too heavy, and too power-hungry for that). I am considering buying a FlashTrax to put in the pocket of my photo vest, although I'm a little concerned that it too is overly power-hungry. Even if you have a notebook with a CD burner, you might still want to consider a copy-to-CD unit; if you are using your notebook as an editing station for immediate image use you don't want to try burning a CD at the same time. I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 1. Small and light 12 tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage A 12 screen certainly isn't all that great for an editing station. I'm still not convinced that a tablet PC works as a general-purpose notebook replacement. It's great for some things, but I think that the compromises made to keep them small and light take away too much. And, of course, they do cost quite a bit more.
Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
MO drives are slow. i have owned several over the years. they have good storage life, but that is about all. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) I just found one more digital storing device (besides Image Tank, Flash Trax and Vosonic X-drive): Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo (less than 200$). This one writes the images onto 640MB MO-discs, which allegedly gives more durable storage, than CD's or DVD's.
RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
The Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo kan trasfer 12 Mb/sec. Unloading a 512 Mb card should then take less than 1 minute (43 secs). If you are using two RAM cards you can easily empty one onto the MO-disc while shooting photograps on the other. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. april 2004 20:02 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) MO drives are slow. i have owned several over the years. they have good storage life, but that is about all. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) I just found one more digital storing device (besides Image Tank, Flash Trax and Vosonic X-drive): Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo (less than 200$). This one writes the images onto 640MB MO-discs, which allegedly gives more durable storage, than CD's or DVD's.
RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
- Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB] (2.5 HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5 LCD) My husband has the Gmini 220 and he loves it. It also plays mp3s. I have a friend who has the eFilm PicturePAD, which he likes a lot as well.
Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
try one. they don't except into the internal write buffer. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) The Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo kan trasfer 12 Mb/sec. Unloading a 512 Mb card should then take less than 1 minute (43 secs). If you are using two RAM cards you can easily empty one onto the MO-disc while shooting photograps on the other.
RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
On 23 Apr 2004 at 21:29, Jens Bladt wrote: The Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo kan trasfer 12 Mb/sec. Unloading a 512 Mb card should then take less than 1 minute (43 secs). Not according to Tom's hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20031017/fujitsu-06.html If you are using two RAM cards you can easily empty one onto the MO-disc while shooting photograps on the other. Carrying three MOs to dump each 2GB CF card seems a little impractical to me, plus at the cost of the media I'd rather be buying CF cards in five packs. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512 card, so i've never had a reason to use it so far. arnie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage) I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing that shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and need a way to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my way shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop. So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1-2 /ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=172 28 2 I am wondering if anyone has used it or something similar. If another brand or another type of gadget, what? And what is your opinion of it? Any input would be helpful. TIA, Marnie aka Doe
Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512 card, so i've never had a reason to use it so far. arnie - Hmmm, based on what Robert said, the Flashtrax is the only one that handles RAW well (or at all). And I am thinking I want the option to shoot just RAW. Anyway, I've settled on it, because it seems the best choice (though a bit more pricey than some). Eventually, when I save up some funds, that is, I am pretty sure that is the one I'll get. Good to know, thanks. It says in the description it will copy JPEGS and DATA, and it wasn't clear what that data was. Marnie aka Doe This discussion refers to the Archos Gmini.
