RE: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Steven Desjardins


I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements



Maybe just a little picky. Looks like it's aimed at photographers 
shooting brides  high school seniors.


Brides want to look perfect on that special day, and everybody knows how 
sensitive teenagers are about their skin ...


(OH NO! I've got a ZIT! My life is OVER!!!)

If you want *way over the top*, you gotta' go the Becky Carter looks 
like a Barbie Doll route:


http://www.twistedgrafix.com/winashoot/supremes.html

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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
It looks pretty over the top to me but then you should look at the 
adverts for similar products in photography magazines, makes the 
subjects look like manikins...


On 12/17/2010 8:25 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements



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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
Typical cosmetic advertising edit.

Jack

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 I understand the need to overly touch
 up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence
 that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this
 thing way over the top?
 
 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements
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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread eckinator
you're being picky - MJ really looked like that ]=)

2010/12/17 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements
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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:25, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?
 
 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements

Yuck.

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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Kenton Brede
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements

First, freckles are beautiful, why remove them?
Second, I like most of the original photos on that page better than
the touched ones.

I really don't understand why these advertising people manipulate
photos to the point the people in them look anorexic and sick.  I
guess my aesthetic is different.
Kent

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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Walter Gilbert
 Yikes!  Yeah, that's a bit much -- particularly on the girl with the 
freckles.


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On 12/17/2010 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements



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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
Avon might have an argument. ;)

Jack

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 Subject: Re: OT: Plastic Faces
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 7:17 AM
 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:25 AM,
 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I understand the need to overly touch up portraits,
 but the software
  Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all
 evidence that the
  person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing
 way over the top?
 
  http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements
 
 First, freckles are beautiful, why remove them?
 Second, I like most of the original photos on that page
 better than
 the touched ones.
 
 I really don't understand why these advertising people
 manipulate
 photos to the point the people in them look anorexic and
 sick.  I
 guess my aesthetic is different.
 Kent
 
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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like the freckles as well.  The glow shot are really bad, unless
you think of them as watercolors.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yikes!  Yeah, that's a bit much -- particularly on the girl with the
 freckles.

 -- Walt

 On 12/17/2010 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements


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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 09:17:05AM -0600, Kenton Brede wrote:
 
 I really don't understand why these advertising people manipulate
 photos to the point the people in them look anorexic and sick.  I
 guess my aesthetic is different.
 Kent

You might as well ask why the cast of TV shows is populated by
women who are all tiny (should you actually get to meet one, the
first thought that runs through your mind is just how small she is.
Well, maybe the second thought - the first is probably that she's
even cuter in real life, without all the TV or movie makeup).

My favourite ridiculous example, at present, is a TV commercial
for York Peppermint Patties, featuring a model who looks as though
she wouldn't be able to eat more than a single bite, and who would
then go and stick her fingers down her throat lest she put on an
ounce of fat (which is probably more than on her entire body).


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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Kenton Brede wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?
 
 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements
 
 First, freckles are beautiful, why remove them?
 Second, I like most of the original photos on that page better than
 the touched ones.
 
 I really don't understand why these advertising people manipulate
 photos to the point the people in them look anorexic and sick.  I
 guess my aesthetic is different.
 Kent

These aren't advertising photos. They're offered to promote a one-step software 
tool that does a blanket sweep of any distinguishing skin feature. It's for 
amateur portrait photographers and guys who want to please their girlfriends. 
Pro retouchers remove blemishes and some faults but preserve skin tonality, 
porosity, etc. Yes, some ads are over-retouched because the clients insist on 
it. But i have never seen a well produced national ad that was retouched to the 
extent seen here.
Paul


 
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RE: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread J.C. O'Connell
those asian woman photos all look bad because the black
level is way off, kills all the shadow detail in
the dark hair. ( probably an attempt to make
the originals as bad as possible skin tone).

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RE: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread J.C. O'Connell
And the one of the guy looks grossly oversharpened
except for the cheeks and forehead. Especially the
wrikles around the eyes, way too sharpened.

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those asian woman photos all look bad because the black
level is way off, kills all the shadow detail in
the dark hair. ( probably an attempt to make
the originals as bad as possible skin tone).

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Re: OT: Plastic Faces

2010-12-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yes, Paul, that's a good way to put it.  The effect is so extreme that
I would never be tempted to buy the software.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Kenton Brede wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I understand the need to overly touch up portraits, but the software
 Portrait Magic Professional Actions removes all evidence that the
 person has skin.  Am I  being picky or is this thing way over the top?

 http://www.photographybb.com/actions/premium/Portrait-Magic-Pro-Elements

 First, freckles are beautiful, why remove them?
 Second, I like most of the original photos on that page better than
 the touched ones.

 I really don't understand why these advertising people manipulate
 photos to the point the people in them look anorexic and sick.  I
 guess my aesthetic is different.
 Kent

 These aren't advertising photos. They're offered to promote a one-step 
 software tool that does a blanket sweep of any distinguishing skin feature. 
 It's for amateur portrait photographers and guys who want to please their 
 girlfriends. Pro retouchers remove blemishes and some faults but preserve 
 skin tonality, porosity, etc. Yes, some ads are over-retouched because the 
 clients insist on it. But i have never seen a well produced national ad that 
 was retouched to the extent seen here.
 Paul



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