Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother
Thanks, Christine. I almost left it in colour but thru teachers' banners in the background were bright orange and so colourful that they would have distracted from the foreground imho. Glad you liked. Thanks to everyone else who looked and commented. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Christine Aguila Sent: May 21, 2012 5/21/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother Excellent! Photo reveals great character in the men's faces, nice straight on looks from the two men on the left. I could go either way on color or bw, but this bw rendering is very nice. Nice one, Frank! Cheers, Christine On May 18, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > Does that one maybe want to be in color? -T > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:54 AM, frank theriault > wrote: >> The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around >> the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature >> buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, >> but this was the best of them: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html >> >> Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... >> >> ;-) >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother
Excellent! Photo reveals great character in the men's faces, nice straight on looks from the two men on the left. I could go either way on color or bw, but this bw rendering is very nice. Nice one, Frank! Cheers, Christine On May 18, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > Does that one maybe want to be in color? -T > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:54 AM, frank theriault > wrote: >> The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around >> the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature >> buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, >> but this was the best of them: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html >> >> Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... >> >> ;-) >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother
On 5/18/2012 22:34, Tim Bray wrote: Does that one maybe want to be in color? -T Doubt it ann On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:54 AM, frank theriault wrote: The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, but this was the best of them: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does that one maybe want to be in color? -T On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:54 AM, frank theriault wrote: > The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around > the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature > buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, > but this was the best of them: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html > > Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Christine Aguila Sent: May 17, 2012 5/17/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother That's a great shot, Frank! Love it! Cheers, Christine On May 16, 2012, at 11:02 PM, "knarftheria...@gmail.com" wrote: > I appreciate your comments, Boris. To me it's near impossible avoid the odd > placard growing out of a head in protest or rally photos such as this. > > Adds to the atmosphere and all. > > Sorry those placards ruined it for you. > > Thank you for commenting and thanks to all who commented and looked. > > Cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- > Christopher Hitchens > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Boris Liberman > Sent: May 16, 2012 5/16/12 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother > > I always have hard time making sure no person grows a flag or a pole out > of their head in cases such as this. Unless your intent was that of > mockery, I'd say it doesn't work for me. The facials you caught are > excellent and the turn of the head of the guy on the right is just > right, but the vertical objects... > > On 5/14/2012 18:54, frank theriault wrote: >> The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around >> the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature >> buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, >> but this was the best of them: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html >> >> Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... >> >> ;-) >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a great shot, Frank! Love it! Cheers, Christine On May 16, 2012, at 11:02 PM, "knarftheria...@gmail.com" wrote: > I appreciate your comments, Boris. To me it's near impossible avoid the odd > placard growing out of a head in protest or rally photos such as this. > > Adds to the atmosphere and all. > > Sorry those placards ruined it for you. > > Thank you for commenting and thanks to all who commented and looked. > > Cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- > Christopher Hitchens > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Boris Liberman > Sent: May 16, 2012 5/16/12 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother > > I always have hard time making sure no person grows a flag or a pole out > of their head in cases such as this. Unless your intent was that of > mockery, I'd say it doesn't work for me. The facials you caught are > excellent and the turn of the head of the guy on the right is just > right, but the vertical objects... > > On 5/14/2012 18:54, frank theriault wrote: >> The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around >> the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature >> buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, >> but this was the best of them: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html >> >> Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... >> >> ;-) >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I appreciate your comments, Boris. To me it's near impossible avoid the odd placard growing out of a head in protest or rally photos such as this. Adds to the atmosphere and all. Sorry those placards ruined it for you. Thank you for commenting and thanks to all who commented and looked. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Boris Liberman Sent: May 16, 2012 5/16/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother I always have hard time making sure no person grows a flag or a pole out of their head in cases such as this. Unless your intent was that of mockery, I'd say it doesn't work for me. The facials you caught are excellent and the turn of the head of the guy on the right is just right, but the vertical objects... On 5/14/2012 18:54, frank theriault wrote: > The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around > the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature > buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, > but this was the best of them: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html > > Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I always have hard time making sure no person grows a flag or a pole out of their head in cases such as this. Unless your intent was that of mockery, I'd say it doesn't work for me. The facials you caught are excellent and the turn of the head of the guy on the right is just right, but the vertical objects... On 5/14/2012 18:54, frank theriault wrote: The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, but this was the best of them: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Yes indeed, endless and limitless government spending is the solution > to everything! > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Hey that was my line. I have no problem telling them that. Dave > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM, frank theriault > wrote: >> The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around >> the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature >> buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, >> but this was the best of them: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html >> >> Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... >> >> ;-) >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > knarftheria...@gmail.com > > I haven't heard one union say anything of the sort. Right now they're > just trying to avoid losing their hard-fought gains made over the > years. > [...] > > As these attacks against wage earners continue, we hear of CEOs of > government corporations making seven-figure salaries. We hear of huge > waste and corruption within some departments and government > corporations that goes unchecked for years. Yet when it's "belt > tightening time" it's always labour they go after. > [...] Over here our Eton-educated Prime Minister and his Bullingdon Club chums in the cabinet tell us "We're all in it together", while the people who had nothing to do with the financial collapse lose their jobs and subsidise Dave's other chums in the banks and boardrooms who do nothing but sit back and lick cream and champagne off their own balls all day long. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Solidarity, Brother
To me those banners are the weak point of this photo. These guys are obviously labourers (electrical workers IIRC) but the only signs to be seen are for teachers. Looks confusing and somewhat non-sensical. If those placards behind them would have been for one of the labourers' unions the photo would have been much stronger IMHO. Thanks to all who commented and looked. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W Sent: May 14, 2012 5/14/12 To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Subject: RE: PESO - Solidarity, Brother I dunno. According to the banners they're teachers, so if they get mad at you they just make you go and see the headmaster. B > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Jack Davis > > I see what you mean, Frank. I think the vertically challenged guy in > the middle of the front row is probably always mad about being short. > > Jack > > - Original Message - > From: frank theriault > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:54 AM > Subject: PESO - Solidarity, Brother > > The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around the > province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature > buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, > but this was the best of them: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html > > Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother
I haven't heard one union say anything of the sort. Right now they're just trying to avoid losing their hard-fought gains made over the years. In most cases governments aren't actually rolling back wages, they're being sneaky about it: Hiring part time workers (to which the collective agreements don't apply) so they don't have to give benefits or job security. Contracting out services to non-union companies. "Laying off" union employees then hiring them back as contract workers (again no benefits or job security). More and more government services are being declared "essential services" thus losing their right to strike. As these attacks against wage earners continue, we hear of CEOs of government corporations making seven-figure salaries. We hear of huge waste and corruption within some departments and government corporations that goes unchecked for years. Yet when it's "belt tightening time" it's always labour they go after. That, I think, is what these unions are protesting. I'm sure they don't want an increase in government spending any more than anyone else. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: May 14, 2012 5/14/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother Yes indeed, endless and limitless government spending is the solution to everything! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM, frank theriault wrote: > The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around > the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature > buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, > but this was the best of them: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html > > Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Solidarity, Brother
I dunno. According to the banners they're teachers, so if they get mad at you they just make you go and see the headmaster. B > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Jack Davis > > I see what you mean, Frank. I think the vertically challenged guy in > the middle of the front row is probably always mad about being short. > > Jack > > - Original Message - > From: frank theriault > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:54 AM > Subject: PESO - Solidarity, Brother > > The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around the > province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature > buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, > but this was the best of them: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html > > Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes indeed, endless and limitless government spending is the solution to everything! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM, frank theriault wrote: > The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around > the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature > buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, > but this was the best of them: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html > > Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I see what you mean, Frank. I think the vertically challenged guy in the middle of the front row is probably always mad about being short. Jack - Original Message - From: frank theriault To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:54 AM Subject: PESO - Solidarity, Brother The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature buildings) against proposed government cutbacks. Got loads of photos, but this was the best of them: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures... ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
