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*IF* Pentax reads this list, I'll bet they've now put you in the kill file. As I have now. William in Utah 10/14/2002 4:02:59 PM, Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a bunch of sewer mouth crap
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Once again, am I going to need a form letter? What is the point of this Cotty? You think that you unsubscribing will punish me? You actually just threatened me. That's not very acceptable behaviour. I'd in fact say threatening someone is worse than swearing on the board! Before this email, you wrote another one to me telling me to keep my opinions to myself, simply because you did not agree with them. Of course it was ok for you to post your opinion. What is with the attitude? Relax a bit. For the rest of the list members: Why did I bother with the apology? I'd really like someone to actually tell me on the board. Seems no one has read the apologies 10^2 I have posted or other peoples similar response, as I am still getting mailings about it. Why repeat it? What will Cotty gain from sending this? Is it a hatred of me? Is threatening to quit an attempt to get the long-time members against me as well? Does anyone have an answer? Please all valid questions I hope you can all answer, especially the 'Why did I bother with the apology?' Can a few of you send this to Cotty or the board again so Cotty can read it? I really don't know why he hates me for not wanting to hear 100 times the same thing about a DSLR or the fact I don't see one coming or don't want one. Sure I can ask to stop with the DSLR stuff can't it? It's what I think, it's an opinion, and of course, the biggest thing is no one is forced to do what I say. Man, I hate to send these messages time after time after time. Does the group want to focus on me despite what I say? Do I keep the kid who swears loudly in class inside and miss recesses for that day? I fit it fitting. Do I want them writing the WHOLE dictionary as punishment, instead of writing out 3 pages of the letter L in the dictionary? No, 3 pages of L is a lot and a fitting punishment. Do I request suspension for the child from the principal? Of course not. Does anyone understand this? Regards, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:49 AM Subject: Re:To the pentax spies HEY PENTAX (expletive deleted), YOU READING THIS? SHOW YOURSELF TO THIS GROUP AND TELL US WHY WE ALL USE PENTAX EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKS! TELL US A TALE ABOUT A DIGITAL SLR! Brad, If you use language like this again, I will consider unsubscribing, which will be a shame. I have been reading and contributing to this list for a while now, and I have seldom seen such language used. I am not a prude, and have been known to blaspheme, but doing it in public on an email list is uncalled for. Unfortunately for me I get the digest version of the list, so I cannot delete your emails. I will not be reading any more of them. Apologies for being civilised, Cotty Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps
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*IF* Pentax reads this list, I'll bet they've now put you in the kill file. As I have now. William in Utah 10/14/2002 4:02:59 PM, Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a bunch of sewer mouth crap My my, another one! Is there an end? Someone just threatened to kill me. Sewer mouth crap? Can we even use that word 'crap'? Crap is actually the same as S**t (poop) This the allowed? Sewer mouth crapjust wondering but are you Mormon William? My best and longest friend is a Mormon, did his mission in Colorado.
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Peter Alling wrote: No, No, No, it's the English who've butchered the English Language. The closest English speakers in the world to those who brought English here are in Appalachia and the Coasts of the Southern (Atlantic) US states. The Brit's have changed their language and try to make _US_ feel guilty about it. :) Either way, I like putting the letter U in words that it really doesn't need to belong in.. Colour, armour, neighbour, etc!
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: Geez, have people ignored my apology email and still want to comment? It's Check the time stamp, bubby.. ;) When I get in on the flaming action, I make sure I start quick before the issue's been beaten, the offender appologized, and the whole thing forgotten.. Strike while the iron, or the language as the case may be, is hot! the message was a poor angry joke, as I beleive (and I hope I have a right to my opinion??) no one at Pentax is watching let alone care what we write. Yes, but the US government is now monitoring your subversive Canadian ways through the magic of Carnivore... We're onto your hockey and we won't take your pleading aboots any more!
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He's beginning to roll the steel balls in his hand again. Maybe he's just had too much strawberry ice cream. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] snip
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I live in Richmond, BC, and am a father of 8 children ranging from 9 to 22. At present, I have two children in Elementary (The board advocates Child Centred Education) and 3 at High School. So far, my experience of North American education has led me to the well justified conclusion, that it is screwed up. Educators have screwed up Canadian society(American too, for that matter) with their naive Socialist Fabian Philosophies. Child Centred Education does not work, and never will. All it does is produce union fodder, and turns kids into informants(often against their families), and does not prepare them for the real world. No wonder they turn to drugs. I don't know where you guys stand on these things, but I don't mean it personally. Before, I would have used a stronger word than screwed, but that's not Christian. I would not be a teacher for anything, the stress levels must be unbelievable. James - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: Re: To the pentax spies Sounds like you are quite uninformed and a little slow mentally. My statement had nothing remotely to do with condoning that language at that age, the sentence just stated a true fact of life. Don't put words into my mouth and don't read so much into statements, as at least in this case, you were plain wrong. If you are American, you DO have a major problem in public education, in Canada we are FAR different. Don't make conclusions based on false pretences in any case. But hey, this has been going for a good while, with lots of posts, you just jumping on the wagon and looking for trouble? I said something, I immediately apologized, and I've still got people coming up with emails about it. What point does your email or any other serve? Nothing. Except perhaps being a.ahhh, nevermind. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Michael Perham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: RE: To the pentax spies Sounds like you condone 5 yrs old kids swearing says a lot about today's people in education. Mike. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 14, 2002 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To the pentax spies And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing.
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Love you too Bruce!!! *kiss* Always yours, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Re:To the pentax spies He's beginning to roll the steel balls in his hand again. Maybe he's just had too much strawberry ice cream. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] snip
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Are you still carrying on Vic? You would be wise to practice what you preach. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Re:To the pentax spies You're always apologizing for something. Hey, I have an idea, think before you type. Vic In a message dated 10/15/02 4:31:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the rest of the list members: Why did I bother with the apology? I'd really like someone to actually tell me on the board. Seems no one has read the apologies 10^2 I have posted or other peoples similar response, as I am still getting mailings about it. Why repeat it?
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- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PDML (Pentax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Re:To the pentax spies While this fellow was posting this to the list, he was sending the attached email to me. He is who he is. His spots won't change. We're just going to have to endure him for a while just as we had to endure The Who and Mafud. Regards, Bob... From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once again, am I going to need a form letter? What is the point of this Cotty? You think that you unsubscribing will punish me? You actually just threatened me. That's not very acceptable behaviour. I'd in fact say threatening someone is worse than swearing on the board! Before this email, you wrote another one to me telling me to keep my opinions to myself, simply because you did not agree with them. Of course it was ok for you to post your opinion. What is with the attitude? Relax a bit. For the rest of the list members: Why did I bother with the apology? I'd really like someone to actually tell me on the board. Seems no one has read the apologies 10^2 I have posted or other peoples similar response, as I am still getting mailings about it. Why repeat it? What will Cotty gain from sending this? Is it a hatred of me? Is threatening to quit an attempt to get the long-time members against me as well? Does anyone have an answer? Please all valid questions I hope you can all answer, especially the 'Why did I bother with the apology?' Can a few of you send this to Cotty or the board again so Cotty can read it? I really don't know why he hates me for not wanting to hear 100 times the same thing about a DSLR or the fact I don't see one coming or don't want one. Sure I can ask to stop with the DSLR stuff can't it? It's what I think, it's an opinion, and of course, the biggest thing is no one is forced to do what I say. Man, I hate to send these messages time after time after time. Does the group want to focus on me despite what I say? Do I keep the kid who swears loudly in class inside and miss recesses for that day? I fit it fitting. Do I want them writing the WHOLE dictionary as punishment, instead of writing out 3 pages of the letter L in the dictionary? No, 3 pages of L is a lot and a fitting punishment. Do I request suspension for the child from the principal? Of course not. Does anyone understand this? Regards, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:49 AM Subject: Re:To the pentax spies HEY PENTAX (expletive deleted), YOU READING THIS? SHOW YOURSELF TO THIS GROUP AND TELL US WHY WE ALL USE PENTAX EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKS! TELL US A TALE ABOUT A DIGITAL SLR! Brad, If you use language like this again, I will consider unsubscribing, which will be a shame. I have been reading and contributing to this list for a while now, and I have seldom seen such language used. I am not a prude, and have been known to blaspheme, but doing it in public on an email list is uncalled for. Unfortunately for me I get the digest version of the list, so I cannot delete your emails. I will not be reading any more of them. Apologies for being civilised,
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Bob, you have just taken things too far. At least I apologized for my words. The rest is wasted. But don't get too hopeful, I like the PDML and plan on being here for a long long time. With valid contributions of course. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PDML (Pentax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Re:To the pentax spies While this fellow was posting this to the list, he was sending the attached email to me. He is who he is. His spots won't change. We're just going to have to endure him for a while just as we had to endure The Who and Mafud. Regards, Bob...
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-Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Bob, you have just taken things too far. At least I apologized for my words. The rest is wasted. But don't get too hopeful, I like the PDML and plan on being here for a long long time. With valid contributions of course. When do you plan to start? You haven't contributed anything useful as of now. I've never actually had to do this, but I'm setting up a killfile just for you. Buh-bye. tv
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Are you still carrying on Vic? You would be wise to practice what you preach. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Re:To the pentax spies You're always apologizing for something. Hey, I have an idea, think before you type. Vic In a message dated 10/15/02 4:31:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the rest of the list members: Why did I bother with the apology? I'd really like someone to actually tell me on the board. Seems no one has read the apologies 10^2 I have posted or other peoples similar response, as I am still getting mailings about it. Why repeat it?
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Bob, you have just taken things too far. At least I apologized for my words. The rest is wasted. But don't get too hopeful, I like the PDML and plan on being here for a long long time. With valid contributions of course. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PDML (Pentax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Re:To the pentax spies While this fellow was posting this to the list, he was sending the attached email to me. He is who he is. His spots won't change. We're just going to have to endure him for a while just as we had to endure The Who and Mafud. Regards, Bob
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And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:07 PM Hey, Brad, kids read this list, too. Don't be an @$$. And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. Well, Brad, I take back what I said less than 12 hours ago: Aw, you're not ~that~ bad, Brad - I've never had to filter you out of my inbox (as I have had to do with the who - a.k.a. Gregory - and SudaMafud). Consider yourself filtered. Fred
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Please don't say that, I apologized for the my choice of words. I am not a freak. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: RE: To the pentax spies -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Because it is naive to think as you. HEY PENTAX FUCKER, YOU READING THIS? SHOW YOURSELF TO THIS GROUP AND TELL US WHY WE ALL USE PENTAX EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKS! TELL US A TALE ABOUT A DIGITAL SLR! Jeez Brad, you're kind of a freak. tv
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- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: Re: To the pentax spies On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: Hmm...this email came to me after 3 other emails then my original email. Odd. Yeah, I notice that too, sometimes. Makes for some interesting reading. And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. And do you swear in front of them? Sure, most of them may do it, but that's no reason to do it yourself when they're listening. chris No no, you are very correct, classrooms and playgrounds are unbelievable when compared even to my youth. No, I've not swore in front of them. I am to set an example. I approach those that use it (when I can catch 'em) and tell them that it is not acceptable talk in school or any respectable place...or something like that. So, my usage in here. I'm sorry, I have read there were youths on this. (But so young?) Would I swear in front of teenagers? Yes, as long as I was not in a teaching role at a secondary school. But that's side-tracking. I honestly do forget that there are any sort of youths in here, so language is not such as issue. Since there are youths here, I will make my best attempt not to use 'foul' language. Brad Dobo
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Now now, please. I am not a freak. I am not in general extremely paranoid. I would almost be tempted to use that word for others here that really think Pentax is watching us. I don't believe it is so. But others do. That is fine. Don't sink to my level? and call me freak, etc. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: Re: To the pentax spies That or just extremely paranoid... Norm tom wrote: Jeez Brad, you're kind of a freak. tv
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Fred, that is unfortunate (if you can indeed read this) I did apologize. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: Re: To the pentax spies And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:07 PM Hey, Brad, kids read this list, too. Don't be an @$$. And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. Well, Brad, I take back what I said less than 12 hours ago: Aw, you're not ~that~ bad, Brad - I've never had to filter you out of my inbox (as I have had to do with the who - a.k.a. Gregory - and SudaMafud). Consider yourself filtered. Fred
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:53:28 -0400 Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider yourself filtered. Just out of curiosity, what filtering is being used by the list gods? eg. a simple entry in sendmail access hash table or Spam Assasin etc Kind regards Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Kevin Waterson Byron Bay, Australia
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: US WHY WE ALL USE PENTAX EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKS! TELL US A TALE ABOUT A DIGITAL SLR! Dude, this isn't a good way to win friends and influence people through wit and charm, not to mention, when trying to determine if someone from the corporate office is around, this probably isn't the techique that'll flush them out. I try not even to use the words damn, hell, or even of all things suck since I realized there are at least two teenagers on this list. And even though I'm sure they all know the words, I doubt their parents would want me to encourage that sort of behaviour.
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In 06d001c273dc$54b8c5f0$0200a8c0@brad, on 10/14/02 at 07:49 PM, Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: |Fred, that is unfortunate (if you can indeed read this) I did |apologize. |Brad Dobo you sure did :) Bran -- --- Any Discordian is expressedly forbidden to believe what she reads. -Discordian Catma [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: Hmm...this email came to me after 3 other emails then my original email. Odd. The perils of mailing list distribution. And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. I'm not sure what my take on this is, but I tell you what, I picked up my foul language in the third grade, and I'm not goign to encourage it in other kids, especially seeing how badly we Americans have butchered the English language to date.
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List Gods here? (Doug are you a God?) At 09:57 AM 10/15/2002 +1000, you wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:53:28 -0400 Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider yourself filtered. Just out of curiosity, what filtering is being used by the list gods? eg. a simple entry in sendmail access hash table or Spam Assasin etc Kind regards Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Kevin Waterson Byron Bay, Australia
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Sounds like you condone 5 yrs old kids swearing says a lot about today's people in education. Mike. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 14, 2002 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To the pentax spies And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing.
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No, No, No, it's the English who've butchered the English Language. The closest English speakers in the world to those who brought English here are in Appalachia and the Coasts of the Southern (Atlantic) US states. The Brit's have changed their language and try to make _US_ feel guilty about it. :) At 08:05 PM 10/14/2002 -0400, you wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: Hmm...this email came to me after 3 other emails then my original email. Odd. The perils of mailing list distribution. And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. I'm not sure what my take on this is, but I tell you what, I picked up my foul language in the third grade, and I'm not goign to encourage it in other kids, especially seeing how badly we Americans have butchered the English language to date.
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It may help some people on this list to take a breath and think things over carefully before hitting that ol' Send button. From another person in education.
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-Original Message- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To the pentax spies List Gods here? (Doug are you a God?) In North Carolina mythology Doug is the god of lighthouses: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/images/lighthouse.JPG Because of Doug's strength of character and unity of purpose, I was able to find my way back to the cabin after drinking a gallon of Bill's homebrew. It brings a tear to my eye to think about it. I raise my Bass to the PDML! tv
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No, no, no. Wrong. He apologized five times already. You see, he wrote the swear, defended his statement, and then realized he wrote the swear, and then apologized five times. But he will apologize another ten times to you because of your post. And then he will ask me to clarify this post of mine. And then we'll all apologize to each other. Oh, and, by the way, I'm truly sorry for this post of mine here - I didn't realize what I wrote until just now before I hit... SEND[TOO LATE!] Sounds like you condone 5 yrs old kids swearing says a lot about today's people in education. Mike. And your point on kids? I'm in education, I see 5yr old kids swearing. Brad Dobo _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Interesting that I'm answering your question! :) I think with just about any decent email client you can create a 'rule' and have to redirected, deleted, blocked, whatever. I have a rule set up in mine, I created a PDML mail folder and make a rule that anything with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes directly into that folder, so my inbox is for more personal/professional things. I'm just using the latest MS OE. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Re: To the pentax spies On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:53:28 -0400 Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider yourself filtered. Just out of curiosity, what filtering is being used by the list gods? eg. a simple entry in sendmail access hash table or Spam Assasin etc Kind regards Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Kevin Waterson Byron Bay, Australia
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Geez, have people ignored my apology email and still want to comment? It's a dead issue as far as I'm concerned. I was pissed off at the time for one thing within the PDML and another personal one. I wrote the message as a poor joke. Unfortunately, I did include a 'crude' word, and didn't even think of it. Someone on the list emailed me privately and politely what I had done, and I immediately sent off an apology for the language. This all happened within minutes. The weird thing is that an email I wrote on another topic, and then my apology email came in before the offending email itself. Odd. Anyhow, like I said, the language, I apologize, the rest of the message was a poor angry joke, as I beleive (and I hope I have a right to my opinion??) no one at Pentax is watching let alone care what we write. - Original Message - From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: To the pentax spies On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: US WHY WE ALL USE PENTAX EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKS! TELL US A TALE ABOUT A DIGITAL SLR! Dude, this isn't a good way to win friends and influence people through wit and charm, not to mention, when trying to determine if someone from the corporate office is around, this probably isn't the techique that'll flush them out. I try not even to use the words damn, hell, or even of all things suck since I realized there are at least two teenagers on this list. And even though I'm sure they all know the words, I doubt their parents would want me to encourage that sort of behaviour.
