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It is really much better these days. No matter where you are in the US there are usually some excellent local microbrews. One of these (Sam Adams) went national, but many are just little two batch a day places. The real treat is if these local beers are available in draft as well as bottles. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Never trust any beer you can see a 100-watt light bulb through. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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What about talking politics instead? William Robb - Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: RE: American Beer What about that mass produced Craft Brewed beer Samuel Adams a bit hoppy for some tastes but you can't say it lacks character or flavor. At 12:16 PM 12/19/2002 -0600, Len wrote: I'd guess Pål has never had a bottle of Anchor Steam, either, and it's been around a long time. Len ---
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Amercan beer is like making love in a canoe
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A wire canoe at that! Pål Jensen wrote: Amercan beer is like making love in a canoe . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My images can be seen at www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096
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My favorite beer is brewed at a restaurant in Ann Arbor, Michigan. It's called Bear Paw Porter, and it's deep and rich and dark. It has more flavor than any beer I've ever had in America, the UK or Germany. And I've had a lot of them. Paul Stenquist Gregory L. Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Amercan beer is like making love in a canoe Man, you are drinking the wrong American beer! I'm very much enjoying a Rogue Shakespeare stout now, made in Oregon, and I'd take this creamy chocolate nectar over that burnt-toast Guinness any day! Everything made by Rogue Ales is first rate. Americans make a lot of good beers. Sierra Nevada is another one to go out of your way to find, I especially like their IPA. Magic Hat if you want that diacetyl kick, I enjoy the more local (to Maryland) Wild Goose beers, and I wish I could remember the name of that wonderful chocolate stout with the wood engraving of a choo choo train on the label. Summit, a Minnesota brew, is so heavily hopped I need to be in the mood for it, but it's certainly not watery. And sure, Sam Adams if that's all you can find. The larger American population has always preferred lighter beers, ever since brewers came here 400 years ago. But there's a blooming industry in craft beers now that hasn't been equalled since before Prohibition, and some of them are GOOD! I've gone years at a time without touching a Bud or a Miller.
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Years ago, we Canadians made fun of American beer, because it's alcohol content and taste weren't as strong as ours. That was back when ales were our beer of choice, before light beer and before Canadian brewers brewed Coors, Bud and Miller under license. And, before Canadian brewers started marketing our beer down there, with ads featuring snowy forests and moose. Truth is, Canadian beer is like American beer. From the mainstream manufacturers, it's bland homogenous crap! I defy anyone to tell the difference between Labatt's Blue and Molson Export in a blindfold test - and one's a so-called lager, the other a so-called ale! Most good Canadian beer, like American beer, comes from smaller independant breweries like Amsterdam, Steam Whistle, Cremore, to name a few. In some cases, what's even better is pub-brewed beer. A local bar, C'Est What, has a wonderful micro-brewery, featuring a rye ale, a wonderful coffee porter, and a rasberry wheat beer (not my taste, but Dave Chang-Sang likes it g). I must admit, I love Guinness, but I'd love to try your Rogue Shakespeare stout - sounds wonderful! Is it widely available in the US? I might try the liqour store, as they often have better imported selection than the beer store. I raise a pint to the list! -frank Gregory L. Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Amercan beer is like making love in a canoe Man, you are drinking the wrong American beer! I'm very much enjoying a Rogue Shakespeare stout now, made in Oregon, and I'd take this creamy chocolate nectar over that burnt-toast Guinness any day! Everything made by Rogue Ales is first rate. Americans make a lot of good beers. Sierra Nevada is another one to go out of your way to find, I especially like their IPA. Magic Hat if you want that diacetyl kick, I enjoy the more local (to Maryland) Wild Goose beers, and I wish I could remember the name of that wonderful chocolate stout with the wood engraving of a choo choo train on the label. Summit, a Minnesota brew, is so heavily hopped I need to be in the mood for it, but it's certainly not watery. And sure, Sam Adams if that's all you can find. The larger American population has always preferred lighter beers, ever since brewers came here 400 years ago. But there's a blooming industry in craft beers now that hasn't been equalled since before Prohibition, and some of them are GOOD! I've gone years at a time without touching a Bud or a Miller. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: Re: American Beer Years ago, we Canadians made fun of American beer, because it's alcohol content and taste weren't as strong as ours. That was back when ales were our beer of choice, before light beer and before Canadian brewers brewed Coors, Bud and Miller under license. And, before Canadian brewers started marketing our beer down there, with ads featuring snowy forests and moose. Truth is, Canadian beer is like American beer. From the mainstream manufacturers, it's bland homogenous crap! I defy anyone to tell the difference between Labatt's Blue and Molson Export in a blindfold test - and one's a so-called lager, the other a so-called ale! Most good Canadian beer, like American beer, comes from smaller independant breweries like Amsterdam, Steam Whistle, Cremore, to name a few. In some cases, what's even better is pub-brewed beer. A local bar, C'Est What, has a wonderful micro-brewery, featuring a rye ale, a wonderful coffee porter, and a rasberry wheat beer (not my taste, but Dave Chang-Sang likes it g). I must admit, I love Guinness, but I'd love to try your Rogue Shakespeare stout - sounds wonderful! Is it widely available in the US? I might try the liqour store, as they often have better imported selection than the beer store. I raise a pint to the list! -frank Gregory L. Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Amercan beer is like making love in a canoe Man, you are drinking the wrong American beer! I'm very much enjoying a Rogue Shakespeare stout now, made in Oregon, and I'd take this creamy chocolate nectar over that burnt-toast Guinness any day! Everything made by Rogue Ales is first rate. Americans make a lot of good beers. Sierra Nevada is another one to go out of your way to find, I especially like their IPA. Magic Hat if you want that diacetyl kick, I enjoy the more local (to Maryland) Wild Goose beers, and I wish I could remember the name of that wonderful chocolate stout with the wood engraving of a choo choo train on the label. Summit, a Minnesota brew, is so heavily hopped I need to be in the mood for it, but it's certainly not watery. And sure, Sam Adams if that's all you can find. The larger American population has always preferred lighter beers, ever since brewers came here 400 years ago. But there's a blooming industry in craft beers now that hasn't been equalled since before Prohibition, and some of them are GOOD! I've gone years at a time without touching a Bud or a Miller. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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Anybody try Asahi Beer (The Number 1 Beer in Japan)? I was having sushi the other day and Asahi Beer was on the menu. Naturally I had to have a bottle. Not bad. However I was reading the label and was somewhat surprised that it was brewed by Molson in Canada (Under STRICT supervision of course). Christian
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On Wednesday 18 December 2002 22:14, Bob Rapp wrote: For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) Whatcha drinkin in oz? Better not be Fosters. My wife's family tells me that Fosters is not drunk by Real aussies. It's only Americans that drink it. Further more, they claim that Americans paid for the 2000 Olympics because it was so heavily sponsored by Fosters. When I was there I was only allowed to dring VB. Christian
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Oh, no not Fosters Toohey Old, Gold VB Hann Carlton West End Coopers Emu Cascade the list goes on and on Bob - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: American Beer On Wednesday 18 December 2002 22:14, Bob Rapp wrote: For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) Whatcha drinkin in oz? Better not be Fosters. My wife's family tells me that Fosters is not drunk by Real aussies. It's only Americans that drink it. Further more, they claim that Americans paid for the 2000 Olympics because it was so heavily sponsored by Fosters. When I was there I was only allowed to dring VB. Christian
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Bob...Do you open your own email at BigPond? No kids have access to it? If so, I'll send you a Fosters ad I just got... keith whaley Bob Rapp wrote: Oh, no not Fosters Toohey Old, Gold VB Hann Carlton West End Coopers Emu Cascade the list goes on and on Bob - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: American Beer On Wednesday 18 December 2002 22:14, Bob Rapp wrote: For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) Whatcha drinkin in oz? Better not be Fosters. My wife's family tells me that Fosters is not drunk by Real aussies. It's only Americans that drink it. Further more, they claim that Americans paid for the 2000 Olympics because it was so heavily sponsored by Fosters. When I was there I was only allowed to dring VB. Christian
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That's not fair. At 08:12 PM 12/18/2002 -0800, you wrote: Bob...Do you open your own email at BigPond? No kids have access to it? If so, I'll send you a Fosters ad I just got... keith whaley Bob Rapp wrote: Oh, no not Fosters Toohey Old, Gold VB Hann Carlton West End Coopers Emu Cascade the list goes on and on Bob - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: American Beer On Wednesday 18 December 2002 22:14, Bob Rapp wrote: For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) Whatcha drinkin in oz? Better not be Fosters. My wife's family tells me that Fosters is not drunk by Real aussies. It's only Americans that drink it. Further more, they claim that Americans paid for the 2000 Olympics because it was so heavily sponsored by Fosters. When I was there I was only allowed to dring VB. Christian
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People do of course drink VB and Fosters, but they are the equivalent of the Molson's or Bud of the US/Canada and about as good. Some of the best beer on the planet comes from either South Australia (Coopers) or Tasmania (Cascade and Boags). There are also dozens upon dozens of pub breweries, not to mention home brewers. My father-in-law and I brew up some wild ales and stouts from time too time...we have a beer almost every Sunday arvo, and believe me some are more memorable than others. Sometimes the alcohol content gets out of whack if you vary the sugar content at all (which we try to avoid). We had a few bottles a month ago that hit us like a freight train...must have been 9% or 10%. Two 750 ml bottles each and we were singing sea shanties on the verandah. Ah well, the things you can get away with when it's your own beer, and your out in the bush where no one can hear you I don't mind some of the English beers of course. But some of them have gone the mass-produced way of Guinness. I used to be partial to the odd 'Newkie Brunn'every now and again, and didn't mind McPhersons or Boddingtons either. The rest of the mainstream beer isn't that much chop. Beer is a wonderful thing really, pity it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with cameras. Here is a list of all the reason why beer is better than women http://members.iinet.net.au/~sprat/jokes/bloke007.html For all those gals reading this here is a list of 86 reasons why beer is better than men http://members.iinet.net.au/~sprat/jokes/gals004.html For anybody else, bad luck you miss out. Just go and have a beer. Cheers Shaun Christian Skofteland wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2002 22:14, Bob Rapp wrote: For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) Whatcha drinkin in oz? Better not be Fosters. My wife's family tells me that Fosters is not drunk by Real aussies. It's only Americans that drink it. Further more, they claim that Americans paid for the 2000 Olympics because it was so heavily sponsored by Fosters. When I was there I was only allowed to dring VB. Christian . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My images can be seen at www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096
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Frank wrote: I must admit, I love Guinness, but I'd love to try your Rogue Shakespeare Stout - sounds wonderful! Is it widely available in the US? Rogue Brewery is right here where I live in Newport. On the bay on the south end of the bridge. That Shakespeare Stout was one of the most potent brews (and quite tasty!) and was one of my favorites when I indulged in those things. They make all sorts of strange brews. You might find it in some specialty shops - perhaps they'd send off for some? Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
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The best beer I have drank was in the USA. I feel a story coming on, so sit back, pop a cool one and enjoy. This was also my introduction to camping. This took place in 1990. I decided that a pilgramage of photographic proportions to the American Southwest was in the cards. My wife reluctantly agreed, and the car was packed for a month of travel, and off we went. It was an interesting month. But, on to the beer part. We traveled from Regina, Canada, south through Montana and over the Beartooth Pass (11,000 feet?) and into the Grand Tetons. From there, we travelled south, through Wyoming, and into north east Utah. Near the town of Dutch John, our car calved on us, nearly self destructing in the process. It had to be towed off the side of a mountain, into the town of Vernal. Vernal, Utah is as misnamed as Greenland. Of course, we didn't know this, as it was after 9:00 at night, and I hadn't eaten since noon. The tow truck driver dropped us off at a Diefenbunker Motel on his way to dropping our car off at the Pontiac dealership. We walked into the motel, and checked in. Asked if there was anywhere around where a person could get a meal (it was 9:37 pm, and I was well over 9 hours from my ) The poor sot told me that the motel restaraunt had just closed. I replied, something like: Watch my lips, I asked if there was someplace where I could get something to eat. He directed us to a 7-11 Yesterdays submarine sandwiches and Coor's beer on the balcony of the blockhouse motel. And that my friends, was the best beer I have ever had. William Robb
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Yes, no kids have access. I think I still have a clever video clip the frog and princess add Bob - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: Re: American Beer Bob...Do you open your own email at BigPond? No kids have access to it? If so, I'll send you a Fosters ad I just got... keith whaley Bob Rapp wrote: Oh, no not Fosters Toohey Old, Gold VB Hann Carlton West End Coopers Emu Cascade the list goes on and on Bob - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: American Beer On Wednesday 18 December 2002 22:14, Bob Rapp wrote: For REAL beer, you need to travel to Australia!! For me, I am an American in paradise!! Bob (I'll have another pint) Rapp (in Queensland on holiday) Whatcha drinkin in oz? Better not be Fosters. My wife's family tells me that Fosters is not drunk by Real aussies. It's only Americans that drink it. Further more, they claim that Americans paid for the 2000 Olympics because it was so heavily sponsored by Fosters. When I was there I was only allowed to dring VB. Christian
