Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-25 Thread skye pdml
I have the same problem at my work (actually, I've pretty much stopped
looking at photo.net photos because of this) - I think the workaround
might be to just give them the link to the photo. For example, I can't
view your page, but I can view this link to your first photo:
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/6115807-md.jpg

So there you go - your page is categorized as nudity but the
individual photos may be fine.

--skye

On 6/23/07, J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were
> my photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she
> received a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page
> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity

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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-24 Thread mike wilson
J wrote:

> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were 
> my photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she 
> received a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
> 
> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the 
> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I 
> guess they just decide to block it allJoe

Probably picked up the "HOT" in "PHOTO".  The filters at my place of 
work are just as stupid.

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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Kettle meet pot.

William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "P. J. Alling" 
> Subject: Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler
>
>
>   
>> Adol Filter wasn't close enough for you?  Snideness doesn't make for a 
>> defense.  Just makes you look silly.
>> 
>
> You need to keep that in mind Peter.
>
> William Robb
>
>   


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler


> Adol Filter wasn't close enough for you?  Snideness doesn't make for a 
> defense.  Just makes you look silly.

You need to keep that in mind Peter.

William Robb

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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'll invoke it. this thread is stupid.

G

On Jun 23, 2007, at 8:29 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Adol Filter wasn't close enough for you?  Snideness doesn't make for a
> defense.  Just makes you look silly.
>
> John Sessoms wrote:
>>> From:
>>> "P. J. Alling"
>>>
>>> Now I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare this thread dead.
>>>
>> Doesn't work that way. You're the one who mentioned Nazis, so someone
>> else has to invoke it.


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Adol Filter wasn't close enough for you?  Snideness doesn't make for a 
defense.  Just makes you look silly.

John Sessoms wrote:
>> From:
>> "P. J. Alling"
>>
>> Now I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare this thread dead. 
>> 
> Doesn't work that way. You're the one who mentioned Nazis, so someone 
> else has to invoke it.
>
>
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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
>
> From:
> "P. J. Alling"
>
> Now I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare this thread dead. 
Doesn't work that way. You're the one who mentioned Nazis, so someone 
else has to invoke it.


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...  Sorry wrong story.  A long 
time ago when I still wrote communications software, I was sitting at my 
desk and one of our companies salesmen called to get my assurance that a 
particular board would plug into the system bus of the Small System 
Controller, (it wouldn't the SSC was based on an IBM PC ISA bus the card 
in question was S100).  I asked why?  Apparently he'd sold a SSC with 
one of those cards and the customer was complaining that it wouldn't 
fit.  He wanted me to tell them that they were wrong.  I literally, fell 
off my chair, and after I picked myself up off the floor, told him to 
take is problem to the hardware engineering group.

graywolf wrote:
> And to most technical types the salesman sounds like an imbecile.
>  
> graywolf
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Every time you plug a hole, an ingenious way is found around it.  Most 
>> non technical types believe the salesman.  Hadn't you noticed?
>> 
>
>   


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread graywolf
And to most technical types the salesman sounds like an imbecile.
 
graywolf
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P. J. Alling wrote:
> Every time you plug a hole, an ingenious way is found around it.  Most 
> non technical types believe the salesman.  Hadn't you noticed?

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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread J
Yes, that may be true, but do not lie to employees as to the reason 
the photos are being blocked..Joe
P.S. She received a different computer that week, so maybe the person 
before her that used the computer was a porn viewer..

At 03:51 PM 6/23/07, you wrote:
>No it satisfies, employers who don't want their employees looking at
>porn when they're supposed to be working.  That's what those filters are
>meant for, (plus a scary message that your attempt to access a forbidden
>site has been logged).  Personally I see no problem using it this way,
>you get paid at work to do things you wouldn't do otherwise, that's why
>it's called work.
>
>John Sessoms wrote:
> >> From:
> >> J
> >>
> >> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were my
> >> photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she received
> >> a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
> >> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page
> >> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
> >>
> >> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the
> >> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I
> >> guess they just decide to block it allJoe
> >>
> > FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by
> > "smartfilter", because they have "breasts".
> >
> > Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists who want to
> > keep you barefoot and pregnant.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Every time you plug a hole, an ingenious way is found around it.  Most 
non technical types believe the salesman.  Hadn't you noticed?

John Sessoms wrote:
> Well, it would seem then, employers are easily satisfied with pro-forma 
> compliance. I've yet to see one of these filters that can prevent 
> someone from getting to pornography if they really want to.
>
> OTOH, I have seen them block innocuous sites simply because the site 
> included the wrong word. And I have seen them block work related sites, 
> resulting in the Network Administrator having to do extra work to bypass 
> the filter for those necessary, work-related sites.
>
>   
>> From:
>> "P. J. Alling"
>>
>> No it satisfies, employers who don't want their employees looking at 
>> porn when they're supposed to be working.  That's what those filters 
>> are meant for, (plus a scary message that your attempt to access a 
>> forbidden site has been logged).  Personally I see no problem using it 
>> this way, you get paid at work to do things you wouldn't do otherwise, 
>> that's why it's called work.
>>
>> John Sessoms wrote:
>> 
>>> From:
>>> J
>>>
>>> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were 
>>> my photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she 
>>> received a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
>>> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
>>> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
>>>
>>> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the 
>>> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I 
>>> guess they just decide to block it allJoe 
>>>   
>> FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by 
>> "smartfilter", because they have "breasts".
>>
>> Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists who want 
>> to keep you barefoot and pregnant. 
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
Well, it would seem then, employers are easily satisfied with pro-forma 
compliance. I've yet to see one of these filters that can prevent 
someone from getting to pornography if they really want to.

OTOH, I have seen them block innocuous sites simply because the site 
included the wrong word. And I have seen them block work related sites, 
resulting in the Network Administrator having to do extra work to bypass 
the filter for those necessary, work-related sites.

> From:
> "P. J. Alling"
>
> No it satisfies, employers who don't want their employees looking at 
> porn when they're supposed to be working.  That's what those filters 
> are meant for, (plus a scary message that your attempt to access a 
> forbidden site has been logged).  Personally I see no problem using it 
> this way, you get paid at work to do things you wouldn't do otherwise, 
> that's why it's called work.
>
> John Sessoms wrote:
>> From:
>> J
>>
>> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were 
>> my photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she 
>> received a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
>> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
>> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
>>
>> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the 
>> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I 
>> guess they just decide to block it allJoe 
> FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by 
> "smartfilter", because they have "breasts".
>
> Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists who want 
> to keep you barefoot and pregnant. 


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Lets see now, Smart Filter forces you to look at Internet Porn, (and 
some other sites that it stupidly filters), at home.  Adol Filter seems 
to have started a Second World War, megalomaniacaly, attacked the still 
Mighty British Empire, and the Soviet Union, (the country with the 
largest army in the world), at the same time, and to top it all off 
declare war on the then highly isolationist, but righteously pissed off 
USA somewhat later, all the while systematically murdering 90% of the 
Jews in Europe and any other group that the Nazis thought of as 
undesirable.  So, not so much.

Now I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare this thread dead.


Bob W wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of John Sessoms
>> Sent: 23 June 2007 20:49
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: re: Blocked by Smart Fitler
>>
>> 
>>> From:
>>> J
>>>
>>> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the 
>>>   
>> page were my 
>> 
>>> photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and 
>>>   
>> she received 
>> 
>>> a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
>>> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
>>> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
>>>
>>> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at 
>>>   
>> all on the 
>> 
>>> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I
>>>   
>
>   
>>> guess they just decide to block it allJoe 
>>>   
>> FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by 
>> "smartfilter", because they have "breasts".
>>
>> Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists 
>> who want to 
>> keep you barefoot and pregnant.
>>
>> 
>
> Is Smart Fitler at all related to Adol Fitler?
>
> Bob
>
>
>   


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RE: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of John Sessoms
> Sent: 23 June 2007 20:49
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: re: Blocked by Smart Fitler
> 
> >
> > From:
> > J
> >
> > Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the 
> page were my 
> > photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and 
> she received 
> > a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
> > Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
> > www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
> >
> > AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at 
> all on the 
> > page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I

> > guess they just decide to block it allJoe 
> FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by 
> "smartfilter", because they have "breasts".
> 
> Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists 
> who want to 
> keep you barefoot and pregnant.
> 

Is Smart Fitler at all related to Adol Fitler?

Bob


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
No it satisfies, employers who don't want their employees looking at 
porn when they're supposed to be working.  That's what those filters are 
meant for, (plus a scary message that your attempt to access a forbidden 
site has been logged).  Personally I see no problem using it this way, 
you get paid at work to do things you wouldn't do otherwise, that's why 
it's called work.

John Sessoms wrote:
>> From:
>> J
>>
>> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were my 
>> photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she received 
>> a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
>> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
>> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
>>
>> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the 
>> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I 
>> guess they just decide to block it allJoe 
>> 
> FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by 
> "smartfilter", because they have "breasts".
>
> Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists who want to 
> keep you barefoot and pregnant.
>
>
>   


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re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
>
> From:
> J
>
> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were my 
> photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she received 
> a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page 
> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
>
> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the 
> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I 
> guess they just decide to block it allJoe 
FWIW, the American Cancer Society is categorized the same way by 
"smartfilter", because they have "breasts".

Not very smart at all, but it satisfies the religio-fascists who want to 
keep you barefoot and pregnant.


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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread Doug Franklin
Sandy Harris wrote:

> Here in China, all of Flickr has been blocked recently. Someone
> probably posted photos there that are not acceptable to the Chinese
> government.

The news reports here are that China blocked Flickr due to photos of the
Tianamen (?sp?) Square incident.

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Re: Blocked by Smart Fitler

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Harris
On 6/23/07, J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Listen to this..Where my wife works, she was going to the page were
> my photos are on photo.net www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn  and she
> received a ERROR which said: The following error was encountered,
> Access denied by Smartfilter: Forbidden, this page
> www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn is categorized as: Nudity
>
> AS you have seen before on the page there is no nudity at all on the
> page, but yes their are nude photos are other people's pages, so I
> guess they just decide to block it allJoe

Yes, censorware generally gets it wrong. One famous example was
blocking the American Cancer Society because some of their pages
use the word "breast" fairly often.

Here in China, all of Flickr has been blocked recently. Someone
probably posted photos there that are not acceptable to the Chinese
government.

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