Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 body higher than much more expensive C/N bodies. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
That's completely contrary to my impression of test results for both Canon and Nikon. Jack - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I looked at a few Pentax lenses, then went and looked at some nikkor glass, and it wasn't doing much better in the scores. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
In my initial post I thought I acknowledged awareness of those factors, Bulent. Review each brand individually and give me your impression of the comparative results. Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 body higher than much more expensive C/N bodies. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Jack, I also had a very critical attitude (to say it politely) towards them. I was also surprised to see even a top model Pentax lens-body combo got unimpressive scores. Then, I calmed down by accepting the limits of those analyses. Let me tell you about my impression on a specific situation; If we could put the DA 55mm f/1.4 lens on a 24MP (nonexistent) Pentax body, that combo will likely get an appreciably higher score. Do you agree? A body-independent lens test (if possible at all) might be more informative. However, it will probably be of not much use as a body is needed anyway to shoot with it... I still believe, though, the presentation of their test results might be modified for a better user experience. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: In my initial post I thought I acknowledged awareness of those factors, Bulent. Review each brand individually and give me your impression of the comparative results. Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 body higher than much more expensive C/N bodies. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Yes, I agree that the lens/body combo has to be considered relevant. Why that isn't spoken to is somewhat of a mystery. When the tests included a K-5 body I'll admit to expecting an up-tick in the test scores. I wonder if Kenny Boy is behind this...hm(?) To be clear, my depression is really dismay. Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:38 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, I also had a very critical attitude (to say it politely) towards them. I was also surprised to see even a top model Pentax lens-body combo got unimpressive scores. Then, I calmed down by accepting the limits of those analyses. Let me tell you about my impression on a specific situation; If we could put the DA 55mm f/1.4 lens on a 24MP (nonexistent) Pentax body, that combo will likely get an appreciably higher score. Do you agree? A body-independent lens test (if possible at all) might be more informative. However, it will probably be of not much use as a body is needed anyway to shoot with it... I still believe, though, the presentation of their test results might be modified for a better user experience. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: In my initial post I thought I acknowledged awareness of those factors, Bulent. Review each brand individually and give me your impression of the comparative results. Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 body higher than much more expensive C/N bodies. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Back in the antediluvian age of film, Modern Photography, or maybe it was Popular Photography after they absorbed Modern, adopted the 43mm limited as their reference lens because it was the best all around lens they had ever tested. That lens hasn't changed since then really, so testing criteria must have. On 11/20/2012 5:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? When they publish something like: Latest camera lense reviews How credible can they be, when they can't even spell lens? They took my spelling classes, that counts, no.?? Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Pop Photo's long standing testing method is confined on the lens only. As I roughly understand it, the lenses are firmly affixed to a bench, a beam of light (laser?) shown through them and by some unknown method, the light dispersion (or?) is/are then measured. They have always referred to their published results as being subjective. Suppose they are referring to the converting of measured results to print sizes. Jack - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:47 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Back in the antediluvian age of film, Modern Photography, or maybe it was Popular Photography after they absorbed Modern, adopted the 43mm limited as their reference lens because it was the best all around lens they had ever tested. That lens hasn't changed since then really, so testing criteria must have. On 11/20/2012 5:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
I didn't notice the misspelling. What spelling grade do I get? Jack ;-) - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? When they publish something like: Latest camera lense reviews How credible can they be, when they can't even spell lens? They took my spelling classes, that counts, no.?? Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. http://www.caughtinmotion.com/ http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? I guess it all depends on what you're doing with your cameras. Taking pictures, or trying to pass tests? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? I guess it all depends on what you're doing with your cameras. Taking pictures, or trying to pass tests? MARK -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 :-P DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:25 , David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 Me and my shared work-cube environment only got a glimpse at that before closing. Warning, y'all. (I will save the link for later) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
On 21 November 2012 07:23, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:25 , David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 Me and my shared work-cube environment only got a glimpse at that before closing. Warning, y'all. (I will save the link for later) :-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
It appears that only a very few Pentax lenses have been tested. On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Their test results seem to run counter to most other sites, so there's that. On 11/20/2012 5:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http://stans-photography.info/ . While, naturally, it might be skewed and not objective, what ultimately matters is your own experience with the lenses. For the lenses that you already have, - don't read reviews, - if you are happy with them, - just enjoy. For the lenses that you don't have, - you can save money if you don't buy them. Use the money to fund experiences (travel?) where you can use your existing lenses. ;-) Cheers, Igor PS You can also look at http://plg.komkon.org at links therein. Those are somewhat dated, but contain a lot of interesting test results if that's what you are interested in. On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavisf8 at yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
OK, that did it. Thanks, Dave! ;-)) Jack - Original Message - From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:25 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 :-P DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Without going back to check, shudder I believe there were 3 ugly pages. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:38 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests It appears that only a very few Pentax lenses have been tested. On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Guess I unintentionally made my funk sound more serious than I intended. My lengthy experience has been completely contrary to what one might assume from these nefarious test results. Just thought there might be some founded negative history of these particular testers. Comments appreciated, Igor. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http://stans-photography.info/ . While, naturally, it might be skewed and not objective, what ultimately matters is your own experience with the lenses. For the lenses that you already have, - don't read reviews, - if you are happy with them, - just enjoy. For the lenses that you don't have, - you can save money if you don't buy them. Use the money to fund experiences (travel?) where you can use your existing lenses. ;-) Cheers, Igor PS You can also look at http://plg.komkon.org/ at links therein. Those are somewhat dated, but contain a lot of interesting test results if that's what you are interested in. On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavisf8 at yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
Jack, I don't have a lot of new lenes. The ones I have are really excellent. The DA50-250/4 is truely special. The DA55/1.4 is outstanding, wonderfully sharp portraits. You know the 31, 43, and 77 limited are all extraordinary. Stop worring about this. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I unintentionally made my funk sound more serious than I intended. My lengthy experience has been completely contrary to what one might assume from these nefarious test results. Just thought there might be some founded negative history of these particular testers. Comments appreciated, Igor. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http://stans-photography.info/ . While, naturally, it might be skewed and not objective, what ultimately matters is your own experience with the lenses. For the lenses that you already have, - don't read reviews, - if you are happy with them, - just enjoy. For the lenses that you don't have, - you can save money if you don't buy them. Use the money to fund experiences (travel?) where you can use your existing lenses. ;-) Cheers, Igor PS You can also look at http://plg.komkon.org/ at links therein. Those are somewhat dated, but contain a lot of interesting test results if that's what you are interested in. On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavisf8 at yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? When they publish something like: Latest camera lense reviews How credible can they be, when they can't even spell lens? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I looked at a few Pentax lenses, then went and looked at some nikkor glass, and it wasn't doing much better in the scores. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.